Flying Imams' lawyer asks for 10 years of bias complaints against US Airways

The hunt for "Islamophobia" is on!

Flying Imams Update: "Imams ask magistrate for 10 years of bias complaints against US Airways," by David Hanners for the St. Paul Pioneer Press, July 14 (thanks to Twostellas):

Lawyers for six Muslim prayer leaders removed from a US Airways jet at Twin Cities International Airport in 2006 told a federal magistrate Monday that they want the airline to divulge 10 years' worth of discrimination complaints so they could compare the airline's behavior before and after the September 2001 terrorist attacks.

Attorneys representing the airline argued they should have to turn over just three years' worth of such data. The reason, said one: 9/11 changed everything.

"The bottom line is we're in a post-9/11 world," US Airways attorney Dane Jaques told U.S. Magistrate Arthur Boylan. "Procedures changed. The world changed. So much changed after 9/11."

But Omar Mohammedi, a lawyer representing the six imams, argued that the information was crucial to the plaintiffs' claim that they were victims of racial profiling, discriminated against because they were Muslims of Middle Eastern descent....

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The favorite tactics of green slimes. Behave/act aggressively and then play victim when confronted with this behaviour. In the Indian state of Gujarat, they roasted 60 Hindus (men, women, and children)in a train in 2002 and then played victims when Hindus retaliated. These slimes need to realize that they don't have any special status.

This is OT but relevant.
I have enjoyed reading this page on jihad, I hope you do too.
http://www.byzantines.net/epiphany/islam.htm

I hear the desert of KSA is a great place for moslems.
Nobody hassles you about being moslem there, go.

Fishing expedition in McGelligot's Pool. It might work. It worked for Dr. Seuss.

(paraphrased from another site I visit)
Those who are committing terrorists acts are primarily religious extremists. Here's a hint: THEY'RE NOT AMISH!

What is that word one is looking for ?

Oh yes, deportation.

Why was this pestilence called islam ever let onto these shores ?

Send them back to the Saudis.

The madrassas of the Persian Gulf beckon to them.

Let them return to the freedom loving offal holes from which they came.

Well, I'm all for profiling for the obvious reasons. Everyone pretends that they don't profile, but even I profile. I mean, who wouldn't after 9/11??

Omar Mohammedi, a lawyer representing the six imams

And where is the lawyer from? Can he be trusted with any information? These complaints will be used to get the company to disclose its security procedures, both before and after 9/11.

How much of it will wend its way back to Hamas/al qaeda/hezbollah (name your group) and be used against American aviation in the future?

SCUMBAGS!! They can tell us abvout profiling in the Cesspool of SOWdi barbaria next time around!!

Just like the nazis did in Weimar, moslems are USING our democratic laws against us.

And they said it could never happen again.

PMK: nomen est omen. The guy's name is Omar Mahometi.

Oh yeah?

Cool.

Then Defendants should ask for the specific source of each dollar of funding for each mosque of each of the six flying imams for the past 10 years.

Reciprocity can be a bitch.

they were victims of racial profiling, discriminated against because they were Muslims of Middle Eastern descent....
can we say BS peaple are removed from airliners all the time when there is a concern for passanger safty just 3 weeks back a dying child was removed from a air china flight in vancouver in the name of the god safety a woman and her rather rowdy children were removed from a flight in denver just last week peaple are removed from flights all the time . racial profiling no just like the flying inmans they were pulled under faa/transport canada rules

"Then Defendants should ask for the specific source of each dollar of funding for each mosque of each of the six flying imams for the past 10 years."

OMVI - excellent answer If the flying IMANS are sueing over discrimination, then the defendents have every right to know how they stand on related issues, including where they get funding, AND the IMANS stand on every issue we seem to have with Mo's followers these days. (it's hard to call it a religion any more.)

US Airways or any other Airline has to take the concerns and interests of all passengers when it comes to security.

The little old lady from Pasadena as well as you and I are subject to Airline,and TSA security checks and all the potentially inclusive concerns that may come up in a thousand security variables. The passengers as observers and witnesses are a necessary requirement to aid in that safety and security.

To ignore this responsibility given the times and experiences we have had would be fool hardy at best. Observed behaviors are integral to observations as well.

Unfortunatley today it is trial lawyers that dictate much our actions and they are paralyzing are society in so many areas when it comes to national security.

It's beyond me why any court would accept this law suit to begin with.

We have a personal right to protect and free ourselves from any danger. The power cannot legislate away the human desire for survival.

Profiling is something everyone does all the time.
Even when there is no danger humans do this.

This suit is based on the liberal idea that all people are the same, and all religions good. Disagree with that and get sued. The only sane thing a sane judge could do, is throw the entire suit out as 'frivolous'...

Judge to plaintiffs: "Musliim" is not a race. It's a disease, just like Tinea Cruris.

Crotch rot.

Case dismissed. Now go pound sand.

But Omar Mohammedi, a lawyer representing the six imams, argued that the information was crucial to the plaintiffs' claim that they were victims of racial profiling, discriminated against because they were Muslims of Middle Eastern descent....
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Here's an idea.....

How about we launch a discrimination lawsuit against the Umma (Muslims worldwide) for discrimination against non-believers?

How about we catalog every incident of Islamic oppression and request emotional, mental, and physical damages by the acts of discrimination against the non-believers. The rapes, the murder, the confiscation of property, and violation of freedom of speech, life, and dignity.

Now THAT'S a lawsuit I'd be happy to see!

Monkeywho, I've often thought the same thing. Of course, trying to get a lawyer to take on that case (pro bono because you'd have to be a gazillionaire) would be impossible. Then of course, you'd have the death threats trotted out against you and the lawyer, and the court, and the country, and the continent and....

Never mind....

According to the US government,whites are people "having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa." Check any government form asking about race, and that is what it says.
Assuming that is law, then these Arabs don't have a case, even if one is foolish enough to go along with the "Islamophobia is racism" charade.
http://www.bravenewsworld.com

Here is what racial profiling really is about.

"Racial Profiling"

The View From A Squad Car

Lately there has been considerable honking and blowing in the press about "racial profiling" by the police. People who make their livings by being in an uproar are. Columnists emit boilerplate indignation. Politicians pose. Legislators threaten to pass laws ending this iniquity. Etc. Regarding which, a few thoughts:

If columnists, and a lot of other people, spent time in police cars (I do: I've written a weekly police column for the Washington Times for half a decade), they would discover all manner of interesting things. For example, that "profiling" means recognition of patterns. If you call it profiling, or much better, "racial profiling," you can make it sound evil and discriminatory and establish a category of victims.

Not exactly.

To begin with, the imputation of racial hostility without establishing it is dishonest and, often, nonsensical. For example, in Washington the majority of cops are black, and much of the time we have had a black chief. For another, although again you have to have some first-hand knowledge of the police to know this, black cops behave just like white ones.

Cops, who are on the streets forty hours a week, notice consistencies. For example, youngish women, in fishnet stockings and plastic miniskirts up to their armpits, lounging against lampposts in red-light districts, tend to be prostitutes. So the cops check these women out. They do not check out elderly women in minks, or men with brief cases, for prostitution. The police do not have a vicious prejudice against plastic miniskirts. Nor do they hate young women. They simply know from endless experience what kinds of people are usually engaged in prostitution.

This is profiling.

They also know that scruffy homeless-looking men, walking down back alleys in pricey residential neighborhoods with VCRs under their arms, are quite likely to have stolen the VCRs. So they check them out.

This too is profiling.

Possibly a woman in a Saran-wrap tank top and a thong bikini just likes Saran wrap. Maybe she's wearing a thong bikini because the weather is warm. Maybe she is on her way to a costume party. Or took a wrong turn on the way to the beach. And perhaps the scruffy guy is an eccentric millionaire like Howard Hughes, taking his VCR for a walk. Maybe some charitable rich guy gave a bum a VCR out of the kindness of his heart.

So, yes, you could say that checking out half-naked women on street corners, or derelicts with expensive items, is discrimination. They might be innocent, yes. And it's certainly profiling.

But it is the soul of police work. Scruffy people who go into expensive department stores, in baggy clothes, and then proceed to look furtively around them and brush up against merchandise, are often shoplifters. This recognition is profiling. Perhaps they are innocent--honest paranoids, or have merchandise-brushing personality disorder. But people who work in security in those stores know what shoplifters look like. And so they watch them.

Security personnel at airports look for certain kinds of people--those who fit the terrorist profile. IRS audits people who meet certain standards. On and on. It isn't that airports carry irrational prejudices against people who twitch and sweat and have ticking shoulder bags (or whatever is on the profile: I don't know). If you wanted to sit home and twitch, or if they knew for a fact that the ticking came from an innocent alarm clock, they would have nothing against you whatever. But they know from experience that certain things give away terrorists. So they check out those people. Do you want them to stop?

Problems arise when the targeted class belongs to a politically sensitive group, especially if it is a racial group other than white. (Although profiling can affect whites. If the police check out a slinky white woman who keeps approaching men in the bar of a classy hotel, she may turn out to be promiscuous heiress, which it isn't illegal to be. She raises Cain because she has been humiliated. And she probably has been.)

What usually makes the news is profiling of blacks. The fact is that most street-level drug dealers in Washington are black. Blacks are heavily involved in transportation of drugs for sale. Should you doubt this, ask any cop of any color. Dealers look and behave in certain ways, and are certain kinds of people. They are black, scruffy, young, hang in certain places, display certain body language when cops are around. So cops check them out.

The downside of profiling is that, while young black males on I95, wearing scruffy clothes and driving rentals with no baggage, are in fact often drug couriers, often they aren't. Sometimes they are innocent kids of black doctors, wearing scruffy clothes because it is the current teenage way of annoying their elders. These kids get very sick, very fast, of constantly being stopped and humiliated in front of their girlfriends. I don't blame them. Your choice: Let the drugs through to avoid embarrassing the innocent kid, or embarrass the kid and get the drugs. That is precisely the choice. Let's not pretend otherwise.

It is also true, but verboten to point out, that race and crime are very closely correlated. When I go into the security rooms of the big department stores around the Pentagon (usually to pick up a shoplifter), the photographs of previously collared boosters are almost entirely black. The region isn't. Now, you can explain this correspondence as you like: You can blame society, blacks, whites, capitalists, racists, the weather. You can say it's my fault, your fault, God's fault. But it's a fact, politically palatable or not. Cops deal in facts, not theories.

Cops check out those who fit the patterns.

Racial discrimination? Seldom. The same majority-black cops who check out likely black drug dealers would just as quickly check out whites if the whites fit a pattern. They assuredly do check out prosperous-looking whites with Virginia and Maryland tags who park in bad black sections of Washington. Anti-white prejudice? Nope. They know they are there, almost certainly, to buy drugs. Whites from McLean don't have poor black friends in Anacostia.

Profiling.

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