Fair enough. Here's a solution: don't voluntarily immigrate to the UK and West in general, where your children, immersed as they will inevitably be in infidel culture, may have their Islam compromised. Logical enough, no? "UK Islamic group against Western values," from NDTV, July 20:
Accusing the government of trying to build a ''compliant British Islam'', a radical Islamic group in the UK has launched a campaign to stop young Muslims being corrupted by Western ''liberal values''.Hizb ut-Tahrir, which former Prime Minister Tony Blair wanted to ban in Britain, has planned campaigns against Western ''attacks'' on Islam.
The move comes as Hizb ut-Tahrirs British arm flayed government plans to combat Islamic 'extremism'. The government had decided to set up a panel of 20 Islamic experts to counter warped interpretations of the Koran and to advise youngsters on key Muslim issues and how ''that fits in with being a citizen in the UK''.
The Islamic group, which describes itself as a global Islamic political party, alleged that the authorities in UK were trying to build a ''compliant British Islam'', and complains that the state was involved in an Islamophobic campaign.
''The current smears against Islam and the Sharia, the filthy cartoons defaming our beloved Prophet and the calls in Holland to ban the Koran are part of the propaganda used as part of the war on Islam, commonly called the war on terror,''
Hizb ut-Tahrir spokesman Taji Mustafa was quoted as saying by the Sunday Express.
''It is a supremacist war that aims to force one system, capitalism, and secular liberal values on the whole world,'' he stressed.
According to the British tabloid, the radical group claims young people in particular have been subject to an intense Islamophobic campaign and believes they are at greatest risk from the corrupting influence of Western liberalism, which it brands the cause of binge drinking, gun and knife crime [as opposed to jihad fi sabil Allah], yo-culture and teenage pregnancies.
Obviously not enough western influence to prevent them from bombing, raping and generally acting like the barbarians they are. They can always go home and I wish they would. The UK seems to be a rather unique cesspool of multi-cultural insanity but the U.S. is catching up. With Brother Obama Messiah in the wings we may be closer than we think. We can have mohammedan footbaths and prayer rugs everywhere.
This situation is not going to end well. Burkas on the beach is not a pretty sight.
Hizb ut-Tahrir spokesman Taji Mustafa was quoted as saying by the Sunday Express.
''It is a supremacist war that aims to force one system, capitalism, and secular liberal values on the whole world,'' he stressed.
Damn right! And the reason is that capitalism and secular liberal values are superior to whatever illogical mish-mash of religious mumbo-jumbo Hizb ut-Tahrir stands for, however much that may mean that Taji Mustafa has to go out and get a real job, rather than being a rabble-rouser who'd rather rob and plunder creative civilizations like the parasite he and his fellow Muslims have always been.
The West has already had it's share of things similar to Islam in the Middle Ages and feudal days. No need for us to be apologetic about rejecting all forms of things Islamic in the same way we aren't apologetic about having rejected the ideology of the Middle Ages. Islam is a relic of a past day and age, not something worth preserving in the future. It's like the appendix. Useless, but when it bursts, tremendously painful. Better to cut it out before it bursts.
The Brits really don't believe in deporting foreign nut jobs, do they?
slightly O/T
Breaking the silence on Pakistan and terrorism
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/07/20/do2001.xml
Not OT, I hope, but IMHO, someone must tell them to "STFU, GTFO." where "G" stands for "GET" and "O" stands for "OUT". The rest is SOP. OK?
Losers lose.
I agree with Hugh. The religion is full of contradictions. Let them stay at home till they solve the problems.
OUTLAW Hizb-ut-Tahrir, you fine Proud Brits!
The corrupting influence the Islamic Groups are really worried about is the Western freedom of thought and enquiry. Could be a real problem for a religion that can only survive when people don't ask questions.
We got mail:
Iftikhar Ahmad
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk | info@londonschoolofislamics.org.uk | 86.150.57.24
Salaam
Muslim children do not need citizenship lessons. It is the native children who are indulged in gang culture, incivility, anti-social behaviour, drug addiction, binge drinking, teenage pregnancies and abortion. need lessons in Citizenship education.
Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. There is no place for a non-Muslim teacher or a child in a Muslim school. As a matter of fact no non-Muslim parents would send their child to a Muslim school.
From Hi, I’m Hazel Blears, your Social Engineer..!, 2008/07/20 at 5:22 PM
Oh, the typical zombie projection from this fool is just too much:
Statement A:
Lets change a few words and see what we get:
Statement B:
Now, class, a quick quiz. Which of the two statements is more correct?
Taji Mustafa - I have statement for you: "GFY!"
Ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir.
If Taji Mustafa has British citizenship, revoke it; then deport him, and all other known active members of Hizb ut Tahrir, with their families.
Close all mosques, businesses and British-based websites known to be associated with Hizb ut Tahrir.
Oh, and let's just zero in on the final paragraph from the article:
"the radical group claims young people in particular have been subject to an intense Islamophobic campaign and believes they are at greatest risk from the corrupting influence of Western liberalism, which it brands as the cause of binge drinking, gun and knife crime {as opposed to jihad fi sabil Allah}, yo-culture and teenage pregnancies."
'And teenage pregnancies'. Oh, the horror! Oh, the decadence of EEVIL western societies, where girls aged 13-16 sometimes get pregnant.
Now, for example, let's consider what's happening to little girls in devoutly Islamic Yemen, shall we? -
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/020775.php#comments
Let's reflect on these paragraphs in particular:
"According to the International Centre for Research on Women's 2007 statistics, Yemen is one of 20 developing countries where child marriages are common.
"Nearly half of all Yemeni girls are married before the age of 18.
"Most women have their first child immediately after their first menstruation cycle and are likely to have many more.
- Hmmm - so extremely, indeed, dangerously early 'teenage pregnancies' don't seem to be at all uncommon in the Muslim world. Eleven year olds, twelve year olds, thirteen year olds - married off, raped before they even get their periods, and conceiving on their first cycle. Good god, even livestock breeders know that it's usually a bad idea to breed a bitch or a filly in her very first season.
I must say that *I* find the marrying off of prepubescent girls to men of 30, 40, 50, 60, which is done in full conformity with the example of Mohammed and Aisha, in countries such as Yemen, and Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan, and Iran, and many other parts of the Islamosphere - as for example, *this* case (which, to do them credit, some are querying)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/021804.php
FAR more morally repulsive than the premarital follies of a few silly girls, generally with silly boys their own age or thereabouts, in modern Britain. And I say that as a Christian who honours chastity and fidelity and therefore found 'Four Weddings and a Funeral' rather dull and sad. Now, back to the first link, and some more very telling paragraphs therefrom.
"Yemen's fertility rate is very high, with an average of 6.3 children per woman, and the country also has some of the highest mother and infant mortality rates worldwide.
"According to research on early marriage in Yemen from Oxfam and the United Nations Population Fund, many girls like Nojoud develop irreparable psychological scarrings from early marriage and the forced sexual encounters that accompany it.
"I hated nights because they usually meant that my husband would come to my bed. I used to run from him and he would chase me and beat me and do his thing. I pray that my younger sisters do not face the same fate," said Nojoud" .
{Nojoud being an incredibly brave little person who somehow screwed up the courage to try to get a divorce from her hideous wife-beating child-raping 'husband', and was fortunate enough, by the grace of YHWH, to find someone prepared to help her achieve that - dda}.
I will add that, a long time ago, I read an article about English women who had married Yemeni Muslim men in the UK; and whose daughters (British citizens, with English grandparents on the mother's side) on turning 11, 12, 13, were taken off to Yemen by the fathers; and when tracked down by their distraught mothers, were found to have been forcibly married and subjected to marital rape and impregnated...girls of 12 and 13, having already given birth. That article filled me with horror and disgust.
DDA,
Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly - it is completely disgusting by our cultural norms. But to the zombies, it's all perfectly natural, and legal once that marriage contract is signed.
I won't be expecting the UNHRC intervening anytime soon.
They should be deeply ashamed for exposing tender muslim youth to such corruption, filth, and perversion. To avoid this heinous adulteration of pristine muslim minds, keep your contentious, bellicose, disruptive, polluting selves out of Western countries. For those already in the West, the planes fly both ways. The next time you return to Pakistan to forcibly marry your daughters to their cousins, DON'T COME BACK! Stop immigrating to the West!!! Problem solved.
My suggestions won't work because they contradict their grand scheme, which is to change the U.K. into a desolate islamic nether world. That's why they are there and that's why they won't leave until they are forcibly deported.
To suggest that they "go home" rather than stick around and bitch at the influence of the culture that has embraced them and supported them does seem harsh... But honestly, how harsh is it to say "If you don't want to live with pigs and dogs, stay out of the barnyard?"