"Obama and Muslim voters a 'double whammy'?" by Michael Conlon, for Reuters, July 25:
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Barack Obama should be able to count on heavy support from U.S. Muslims in the November election, if polls are correct, but he risks offending some members of that faith by having to explain he is not one himself.This is by far an over-exaggerated "risk." Muslims know that, to reach the Oval Office, Obama has to "distance" himself from their faith---after all, taqiyya is a part of the culture. I have even spoken with an Obama-supporting Muslim who has made this clear: when asked how he "felt" about Obama's recent distancing from Islam, he simply said, "Well, of course he has to act this way, publicly." At any rate, what alternative is left Muslims -- McCain?
There have also been unconfirmed reports that the Obama campaign plans to appoint a liaison to the Muslim community.Exactly, since in this context "bringing communities together" means nothing less than placing American Muslims in a stronger, less assailable, position.
[...]A religion section on an Obama Web site, "Fight the Smears," that was created to deal with such rumors, labels claims that he is a Muslim a "lie" and states he "has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim and is a committed Christian."
"We know he isn't a Muslim but who cares if he is?" said Sofian Zakkout, director of the American Muslim Association of North America.
Obama's pledge "to bring communities together" is his appeal, Zakkout said, and "We don't expect him to come to us and say, 'I'm with you.' We don't need that."
But Saaqib Rangoonwala, managing editor of Southern California InFocus, a Muslim newspaper, sees a close election in which "American Muslim votes will be needed and it is time for Muslims to take a stand ...Not so: clever Obama knows that he can go out of his way to distance himself from Muslims, thereby appearing more neutral and objective in non-Muslim American eyes, and at the same time still count on Muslim votes, since rare is the Muslim who will vote for McCain anyway."Muslims are not less deserving of Obama's time than other groups that he has met with ... to his credit, he met with a Muslim leader and personally apologized to the Muslim women who were banned by campaign volunteers from sitting behind the podium at a Detroit rally because the women wore hijabs," he said.
[...]But he thinks Obama may be "overcompensating" in trying to correct the misconception he is a Muslim, leaving the impression that being a Muslim is somehow un-American -- a "double whammy."
[...]Abdulaziz Al-Salim, 23, a Minnesota native who now lives in Daman, Saudi Arabia, where he works as a financial analyst for Saudi Aramco, the oil company, said he was sad that "being associated with Muslims is a political liability."
But he said he would vote for Obama "for the same reasons that everyone else is supporting him. He's a unifier, charismatic and represents change."
From the article: "A 2007 Pew report found that U.S. Muslims were mainly middle class and mostly in mainstream society."
This sounds reassuring but is meaningless. We don't know what questions Pew asked in order to determine the attitudes and beliefs that put US Muslims "mostly in mainstream society."
I also find it interesting that no Muslim quoted in the article had anything offensive to say about the US, Israel, Infidels, etc., other than the general complaint about "Islamophobia." My guess is that some Muslims must have, but their quotes were either cleaned up or left out of the article in an effort to paint the Muslim community in as good a light as possible.
'Abdulaziz Al-Salim, 23, a Minnesota native who now lives in Daman, Saudi Arabia, where he works as a financial analyst for Saudi Aramco, the oil company, said he was sad that 'being associated with Muslims is a political liability.'"
-- from the article above
Perhaps Abdulaziz Al-Salim, a "Minnesota native" who now lives in Saudi Arabia, might take the trouble to read, with care, the Qur'an, and many of the Hadith deemed to be, by such authoritative muhaddithin as al-Bukhari and Muslim, the most authentic, and then also look at the life of Muhammad, including such events as the decapitation of the bound prisoners of the Banu Qurayza, the murder of Asma bint Marwan and Abu Akaf, the attack on the innocent farmers of the Khaybar Oasis, the betrothal to little Aisha when she was six, and the consummation of that "marriage" when she was nine, and do so not as a Believer, a Muslim, but as a non-Muslim, an Infidel, if he can perform that act of imaginative sympathy, and then ask himself how he would feel, if he were an Infidel, asked to accept without any qualms a Total Belief-System that includes, for example, 9.5 and 9.29, indeed all of Sura 9, and so many more Jihad-verses in the Qur'an, that includes hundreds of Hadith (ahadith), bristling with hostility toward Infidels, and that offers, as an example of the Model of Conduct, the Perfect Man -- uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil -- Muhammad.
And then this "native of Minnesota" who now lives in Saudi Arabia, and who is apparently made "sad" by the fact -- so unfair! so unjust! -- that "being associated with Muslims is a political liability" should compare his life, growing up -- a native! -- as a Muslim in Minnesota, with the lives, and the freedoms, or lack of them, of non-Muslims in the very country, Saudi Arabia, in which he now earns his keep. And he might start by looking around for those churches and synagogues and Hindu temples, to see if he can spot one, and he might also glance at Saudi textbooks, and see what steady diet of hatred for Infidels is fed, beginning at an early age, those Infidels -- all for being Infidels.
And then, perhaps, Abdulaziz Al-Salim, 23, a Minnesota native who now lives in Daman, Saudi Arabia, where he works as a financial analyst for Saudi Aramco, will not feel "sad" and will not wonder, for one minute, as to why it might just be that "being associated with Muslims is a political liability."
And let all other Muslims who think there is something unfair in the new attitude toward Muslims and Islam that in the Western world can be observed, and that grows daily, almost entirely because the news of the day -- the Jihad News From All Over -- forces more and more Infidels to take the trouble to read the texts, and investigate the tenets, and identify the attitudes, and sniff the atmospherics, of Islam.
Or would Abdulaziz Al-Salim, 23, that Minnesota native who lives and works in Saudi Arabia, and can see for himself how Infidels are treated in that country, which is only the extreme specific case of the generic problem, like to pretend that there is nothing at all in the texts, and tenets, of Islam that cannot be ignored, dismissed, explained away?
"'We know he isn't a Muslim but who cares if he is?' said Sofian Zakkout, director of the American Muslim Association of North America."
-- from the article above
We do, all of us, the Infidels who have taken the time to look into the texts and tenets of Islam, we who recognize that Islam inculcates a view of the universe in its adherents that divides humanity between Muslims and All Others, and that describes a state of permanent war (though not always of open warfare) between the two, until such time as obstacles to the spread, and then to the certain dominance, of Islam are everywhere removed, and everywhere Muslims rule.
Muslims & Europeans indeed love Obama...because he is a repudiation of all they hate about America, which includes the impediment the USA presents to Islam's global Jihad, its entrepreneurial spirit, its willingness to go it alone and buck the international trend, its individualism, its economic freedom, etc., etc.
Obama wants to "bring communities together"...to tear down the "wall that separates native and immigrant, Christian and Muslim..."
Let's face it folks, the only way to eliminate the wall between native and immigrant is to follow the Swedish model, relax immigration standards and criminalize criticism of immigrants...and the only way to eliminate the divide between Muslims and non-Muslims is to codify dhimmitude.
It shouldn't surprise anyone that Obama is loved oversees. But is being so an asset or a liability?
Obama isn't a Muslim. He's something even worse--a direct channel for Evil. Yes, Evil, with the capital "e".
How is it that so few people see his lies? He's not a Muslim, but he's not a Christian, either. He's not black. He's not an American.
He's a skinwalker.
I know how insane that sounds, but it's my gut conviction.
What I don't know is what to do about it, other than to brace for impact.
Abscedere
what's a 'skinwalker'?
Dumbledoresarmy,
Some Native American traditions hold that a shaman, male or female, can become any animal he or she wishes. These are known as skinwalkers, as they go about in the "skin" of a chosen animal to utilize the animal's powers. There's much more to it than that--a book could be written on the subject.
There are benign skinwalkers, who use their ability to the benefit of the tribe. There are also skinwalkers who are aligned with evil.
It's not just the Native Americans (golly, but it would sure be nice to just type "Indians", and be done with it...). Other countries, too, have similar legends. Werewolves and vampires would be examples.
Obama is a skinwalker, of sorts. He pretends to be black (or African American, if anyone prefers that term), but he's not. He pretends to be a Christian, but based on his church of choice, he's no Christian. He isn't a Muslim, but we have seen the picture of him, wearing a Muslim elder's costume, standing next to an imam.
Skins, all skins--to be used and discarded...
Thanks for the explanation, Abscedere - now I know what you mean.
If you are sure of this - if you're a Christian, of whatever tradition - PRAY. I'll pray too!
I'd also advise that you read M Scott Peck's "People of the Lie", if you haven't already, especially the 2nd, 3rd and 4th chapters.
Even if you *have* read it, I'll cite some choice quotes for the benefit of others who may be reading this:
from the second chapter, 'Towards a Psychology of Evil':
'Among themselves, therapists will not infrequently refer to a patient's psychopathology as 'overwhelming'. We mean this literally. We literally feel overwhelmed by the labyrinthine mass of lies and twisted motives and distorted communications into which we will be drawn if we attempt to work with such people in the intimate relationship of psychotherapy...
'There is another reason I didn't try to work with X's parents [example he has just given]. I simply didn't like them. It was even more than that. They revolted me...I could hardly stand being in the same room with them. I felt unclean in their presence...'
Again:
'The feeling that a healthy person often experiences in a relationship with an evil one is revulsion. The feeling of revulsion may be almost instant if the evil encountered is blatant. If the evil is more subtle, the revulsion may develop only gradually as the relationship with the evil one slowly deepens'.
He adds: 'Evil is revolting because it is dangerous. It will contaminate or otherwise destroy a person who remains too long in its presence. Unless you know very well what you are doing, the best thing you can do when faced with evil is to run the other way. The revulsion countertransference is an instinctive or, if you will, God-given and saving early-warning radar system'.
And, from the same chapter, a little later on, here's one that seems to me to be relevant to the present discussion, and which should ring bells for all of us who have had to deal with Muslim Disruptors on this very comments floor:
"There is another reaction that the evil frequently engender in us: Confusion. Describing an encounter with an evil person, one woman wrote, 'It was as if I'd suddenly lost my ability to think' [he footnotes a New Yorker article, July 3, 1978, p. 19]. Once again, this reaction is quite appropriate.
'Lies confuse. The evil are 'the people of the lie', deceiving others as they also build layer upon layer of self-deception. If confused in response to a patient, a therapist must wonder if this is not the result of her or his own ignorance. But it also behooves the therapist to question, 'Could the patient be doing something to confuse me?'
I also suggest Malcolm Gladwell's 'Blink' , chapter six 'Seven Seconds in the Bronx', for a riveting discussion of Silvan Tomkins' and Paul Ekman's work on the art of reading human expression, especially on the face.
He will get the muslim vote no matter what as the GOP office seeker is than racist who frought against the Martin Luther King holiday.
Unfortunately, we are going to be stuck with Obama for the next four years.
The Blacks (men and women) will vote 90% or more for Obama.
The muslims (all) will vote 99% or more for Obama.
The Latinos (men and woemn) will vote near 50/50 for Obama and McCain.
The white women are likely to vote 60/40 in favor of Obama.
This leaves white men and unless they vote 75/25 in favor of McCain (to make up for blacks and muslims) they cannot help McCain pull ahead of Obama. And if they do help McCain they will be labeled white racists.