Pakistan: Madrassa ignores deportation order for female American student

.. and one male from Fiji.

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*FIJI*...? Say it ain't so! They're even in *Fiji* now?!

Nowhere in the world seems safe from this scourge. And we've made it all possible by inventing - and sharing - our magnificent modes of inter-continental transportation.

By the way.. why do we have to want them to hand over madrassa students to come to the US? Only thing we should say these "students" are forever barred from re-entering the US and then we are done with them.

The entire family needs expelling from the US. Period.

Let's get real here.

Any "American" family which sends its children to "Islamic religious schools" in Pakistan after 9/11 are definitely a severe threat to US security. Every family which considers Pakistan a suitable destination for religious indoctrination is simply a Jihadi breeding cell intent on causing mayhem (spreading Islam) and waging Jihad (spreading Islam) and subverting America (spreading Islam).

"Yes we have received the deportation orders but we will not hand her over," Maulana Mufti Mohammed Naeemi, founder and head of the madressa, a 12-acre sprawling walled compound seminary, told Deutsche Presse-Aguntur [sic] dpa.

"No one could dare come near a one mile radius of our compound," he said.

Future collateral damage.

Are US officials scrutinizing this family? Are US officials looking into the network of Muslims associated with this family? Are they looking into their local mosque? Are they doing ANYTHING to learn why these Muslims, who profess their hatred of infidels, their hatred of America, their hatred of Jews and the decadent West, their hatred of secularism, is any US official looking into the fascist dogma of Islam which makes an "American" family decide that Pakistan is a peachy destination for their daughter to go and "learn about Islam"???

Anyone?

Politicians and officials have made a great stink about these Jihad students. They've grandstanded the topic, for they clearly wouldn't be acting unless they know something is deeply wrong with the "religious education" in Pakistan. If they concede that there is a huge problem (and what else can their actions signify?), then what's all the fuss about? Americans being denied their "rights" in "religious schools" their families have freely chosen to send them to?

Something just doesn't add up. These officials clearly know there's something cancerous involved here. Yet the central topic is avoided unscrupulously so that the truth isn't spoken.

Either "Islam is a religion of peace" (in which case why all the fuss about "evacuating" those Khan brothers?), or Islam is not a religion of peace. Which is it?

"No one could dare come near a one mile radius of our compound," he said.

Quite right. In this case we should respect religious sensibilities.

The "American" islamic students should complete their studies, including the practical in Afghanistan. Identifying A10s, Apaches etc is a necessary component of madrassa curricula.

*FIJI*...? Say it ain't so! They're even in *Fiji* now?!

They were part of the indentured labors that were from British India around 1879. The British had brought them to Fiji from India together with Hindus. Many Fijian Muslims are now moving to New Zealand and are establishing their stealth HQ the MOSQUES.

That's fine with me. Don't hand her over, deport her parents back to Pakistan. If Pakistan has so much to offer, let the whole family go back.

Notice how Sharia turns its nose up at our Democracy?

Lady Liberty must always be prostrate before Sharia?

How else can they finish brainwashing her if they don't keep her. Her family agreed to the brainwashing. A deal is a deal, especially with the devil.

Yes, they're even in Fiji now. And as savsiv says, they've been there for over a century now. Maybe it's time for the Fijians to revive some old cultural traditions, the culinary ones. That would be diversity with teeth.

I wonder how many other foreign children have not been released from madrassas even though their visas for religious studies have expired. I suspect that we are not just dealing with an American problem, but with a worldwide problem.

If she really wanted to go and study the Quran, why did she have to go study in Pakistan? I mean seriously, Pakistan doesn't have the most prestigious religious schools in the world. Nor does it have the most respected Muslim scholars. Why would a young American girl go to Pakistan to study at a Madrassah run by Pashtun Muslims? There are enough Muslim 'scholars' in the U.S. and the Arab World.

As for the one mile radius thing, the Pakistani government repeatedly ignored calls to demilitarize its civilians and its religious extremists. They had a chance. They didn't budge. It's time to pay the price now.

Pakistan: Madrassa ignores deportation order for female American student
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Why aren't we--quite literally--up in arms about this? Probably for the same reason that we are not up in arms about the several American professors imprisioned by Iran, which is, uh--I don't really have an answer. Hadn't we used to rally to any American held unlawfully, anywhere in the world? When did that policy end?

I couldn't find an update of the status of the imprisioned American professors--the media seems to have completely lost interest in these stories.

Here's the situation of one of these Americans, Haleh Esfandiari, as of last year:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10344924

Incidently, I do understand the point of view of some of the posters above--concern over what sort of brainwashing these "Karachi kids" are likely to come home with, after X number of years in a fundamentalist madrassa. This is a legitimate concern, especially after some of the horrific jihadist statements the Khan brothers have made. They need to be monitored and followed up on.

I do think the US, though--and other Western nations--need to make it *very* clear that Muslim countries cannot hold our nationals against their will without repercussions.

That this is happening to children makes it all the worse.

As regards Fiji, here's what the CIA fact book (2008 update) has to say about the ethnic and religious mix:

Ethnic groups:

Fijian 54.8% (predominantly Melanesian with a Polynesian admixture),

Indian 37.4%,

other 7.9% (European, other Pacific Islanders, Chinese) (2005 estimate)

Religions:

Christian 53% (Methodist 34.5%, Roman Catholic 7.2%, Assembly of God 3.8%, Seventh Day Adventist 2.6%, other 4.9%),

Hindu 34% (Sanatan 25%, Arya Samaj 1.2%, other 7.8%),

Muslim 7% (Sunni 4.2%. other 2.8%) {of Indo/Pakistani ethnicity, primarily - dda}

other or unspecified 5.6%, none 0.3% (1996 census).

Looks as though the (mostly Melanesian) Christians and the (Indian) Hindus have a pretty decisive majority at present: they'd better sink their differences and put their heads together to work out how to squash Stealth Jihad, permanently, NOW, while the Muslims are still relatively few in number.

I should add that the Bible Society of the South Pacific is based in Fiji, and Fiji is (according to my Christian fact-book, Operation World) the 'commercial and spiritual hub for the many small nations of the Pacific'.

Therefore it matters a very great deal that Fiji should be 'woken up' to the danger of all forms of Jihad, and equipped to defend itself against them.

I agree with many of the posters. Why do we WANT these kids back in this country? The entire family here should be investigated and if they knew what their kids would be learning at this "school", get them out of the US as well and send them to live with their kids

Yes, they're even in Fiji now. And as savsiv says, they've been there for over a century now. Maybe it's time for the Fijians to revive some old cultural traditions, the culinary ones. That would be diversity with teeth.

Ebonystone

The old culture Fijians could set up all kinds of Muslim outreach. The left would love it.