UK: dhimmified presentation of Quran not good enough, "angers Muslims"

"The Quran" is available on Google video
Aired: July 14, 2008 on Channel 4
feature length (102 mins)

Ha ha ha ha ha...the foolish antics of the UK to appease and let in millions of Muslims into their country has become a nightmare. How fun it is now. Please lets not offend the Muslims. We beg. No really I do feel very sorry for ordinary people because you will feel the brunt of the brutality of Islam. Your politicians will be safe in their own offices.

The poster above, whom I suspect is Indian, or of Indian (Hindu) descent, should not be so quick to express Schadenfreude. Every Infidel, including the Hindus of India, has a stake in every other Infidel nation-state remaining as free of a Muslim presence, and hence of Muslim pressure, as possible. Hindus in India -- or in Great Britain -- should not be delighted that people in Western Europe (or, to a lesser extent, in North America and Australia) now have to endure what Hindus, Sikhs, Jains in India have had to endure, though in India on a much more terrible scale.

It is in the interest of Infidels in Western Europe that those who govern India come to fully grasp the nature of the meaning, and menace, of Islam. It is in the interest of Infidels in India that those who govern in the countries of Western Europe do the same.

Infidels in one place can learn what to do -- and what not to do -- from Infidels in another place. And we can all study the behavior of Muslims in any number of places, since it is in the end, when it comes to Infidels, always tending to the same thing, in order to learn lessons useful at home.

Everything angers the ummah. Quit trying to placate them for sanity's sake.

Hugh:

I am certainly not delighted at all I am condemning the policies if you please read my posts. These policies have threatened more infidels. I get no pleasure what so ever I am criticizing the appeasing attitude and the danger that this attitude. My laughter is at the Muslim response because it is typical. My wish is that people wake to this threat at all means possible. Good will to Islam gets you very little. If my post has been malicious in intent and you find it so please remove it. The more I learn about Islam the more It makes me feel sad that many are not aware of the danger especial those in charge to defend us.

False-Prophet-Muhammad was an extremist. Shias and Sunnis are both guilty of the same violence as was their false prophet, so lets not forget who started the murder and mayhem.

I apparently misunderstood, and detected schadenfreude where none was being expressed. Sorry.

Apparently, the only accpetable presentation of the Qur'an by non-Muslims, is none at all.

Help! its over.

Help! its over.

Sun Rises in East. Moslems Angry.

From the Pact of Umar:

Dhimmis:

"We shall not teach the Qur'an to our children."

Just watched the Chanel 4 "presentation". Excuse me while I barf. Whitewashing of highest order, slimy Tariq Ramadan spouting taquia, western hireling Dr Timothy Winter praising the Qur`an, the usual "three abrahamic faiths, no compulsion in religion, whoever kills one person kills the whole world, Cristians and Jews are respected by Islam, Jesus is a revered prophet", yada, yada, yada....

All could be swell if there wasn`t Israel and its "Wall"; the real thorn in the muslim side. Colonialism, Imperialism, Crusades, stolen oil wealth, Afghanistan, occupation - it get's worse every minute.

All told in a mild, good old-uncle-mode.It should be shown on this new upcoming interfaith-conference.Nice peace of pro-islamic propaganda.

This is a despicable film.

I took your original post the same way as Hugh did, savsiv.

Glad you clarified. None of us "Infidels" benefit by the incursions of Islam.

Anyone heard of this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7528165.stm

Doesn't look like "spontaneous combustion" to me..

Sorry maybe it should be taken down, because I did not express it clearly. I wanted to convey my laughter at the response of Muslims but also wanted to show nothing really makes Islam happy. Moreover to also convey it's aggressive nature, but also my frustration at how easily violence that is committed by Islam on infidels is easily dismissed. It is as though Islam is above it all the arrogance of Islam and the use of taquiya is fooling a lot of people about the nature of Islam. Islam is unforgiving it is brutal.

"Airing these opinions will only inflame that view and provide justification for sectarian hatred and violence"

Again, the "We're not responsible" for our actions. An opinion that we don't agree with gives us every right to commit violence.

It is getting harder, nay, impossible to determine what will offend the Muslim world, and practitioners of Islam in general so let's all agree to stop placating the whiners.

Ummah Gummah asks "anyone heard of this?"

The current suggestion on the news is that the blaze was started by a chip pan fire. Piers seem to be very susceptible to fire and a good number in the UK have perished that way. The include a lot of wood and I suppose are difficult for fire appliances to get near.

I wouldn't look for anything sinister that isn't there.

Paul did you see the smoke..? Did you read the accounts of a "loud bang" preceding the fire?

The "official" version is often designed to deflect suspicion from where it belongs: islam.

Muhammad Abdul Bari, secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, quote: "This is an irresponsible portrayal which plays into the hands of those who wish to seek discord amongst Muslims,"
Nonsense. Muslims never cause discord with anybody.

It's everybody else.

Muhammad Abdul Bari, secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, also wrote to Channel 4's chief executive, Andy Duncan, last Thursday, warning of "specific misrepresentations" that could damage cohesion between Muslim communities."

--

Maybe they're getting smart in England and spreading discord.. /sarc off

SIOE:

"... whish to seek discord amongst Muslims".Yes. Fitna. We all know the punishment for it. And we all know if there are only Muslims left on this planet they kill themselves howling fitna and yelling takfir to other Muslims.

Murderous blame game. It's not a bug it's a feature. Islam TM.

savsiv

I didn't read it as schadenfreude, but when you wrote 'foolish antics of the UK', it was obviously unclear whether the criticism was that of the British public at large, or just their elites. I happen to think that this dhimmi attitude, not just in UK but throughout the West, is far more dominant than we are giving it credit for, but nonetheless, such statements seem to indicate that the UK stands out from the rest of the world, and I don't believe that that's the case.

But I don't think what you wrote deserves to be deleted.

buraq_is_dead, yep that 's what I think. islam is a brain virus. It neutralizes the host's defenses in a very opportunistic way.. almost like HIV infects the body.. before it metastasizes inside the society it has infected.

In the end when there are no more hosts left to infect and subsequently consume islam will indeed feed upon itself.

Depending on what functional weapons are left at that time this could well mean the End of the World.

Forgive I am not really worried about "global climate change" just about right now.

Until we defeat islam as the cancer attacking our body politic and societies I am in no mind to leave behind "a better world" for those bent on destroying mine.

Ummah Gummah,

agreed and you know why Islam is such a successful virus? Because it appeals directly to the old reptile brain of mankind. Civilisation is all about curbing the caveman in mankind. But this caveman is strong: Loot, rape, plunder, lies, irrationalty, split logic, blame-games seem to come natural to everyone. See children. To curb these instincts has been the great task of a part of mankind. To unleash them, has been the target of a part of mankind named Islam.

Today I found two interesting essays (sorry, they are in German):

1.
http://korrektheiten.wordpress.com/
Fascinating. Because it explores how violence and irrationality of the medinan verses are already layed out in the mekkan ones.Maybe some scholar can comment on this.

2.
http://www.faz.net/s/RubCF3AEB154CE64960822FA5429A182360/Doc~E1ECC2B524AF14B14B8C848C15006A7E7~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html
Turkish Fighter Necla Keleec blasting Tariq Ramadan (who this time claims to fight against forced marriage).

Correction: Turkish fighter(ess) for women's rights Necla Kelec ... just to be pc.

Ummah Gummah-

You're absolutely correct. Every chip pan fire that has ever started in Britain was caused by Muslims. Every time I've stubbed my toes on the sideboard over the years, it's been the fault of Muslims. Every cat I've ever had that went missing, never to return, it was because of the Muslims.

If you think I'm taking the P*** now, imagine how I felt when I read your statement regarding the pier fire.

You're the Anti-Jihad equivalent of Arnold Rimmer.

I happen to think that this dhimmi attitude, not just in UK but throughout the West, is far more dominant than we are giving it credit for

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 28, 2008 3:35 PM

How accurate! Here is an eye-opener:
http://www.islamist-watch.org/blog/2008/07/slouching-towards-dhimmitude-one-apology-at.html

And here is the whole list (thanks to the corrupt and timid politicians of the West):
http://www.islamist-watch.org/docs

Oh, ..and savsiv, bet UK cannot match this: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html

or, this: http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ramadan/islam.html

Lets have it again with thanks to dumbledoresarmy and others.

Time to re-post a little gem from the English-language press in 19th century China, on How to Deal with Jihad-Minded Muslims, which was unearthed and then shared, on this comments floor, by one of the posters, some time ago:

“If politeness and ceremony be observed toward Mohammedans, they imagine they are feared and become arrogant; but in showing severity and rudeness, they are impressed with fear and respect, and they are supple and manageable.”

--North China Herald,1867

Even though no Schadenfreude was intended, mocking the British for their pro-islamic behavior might be the best way to make them realize that they are today the victims of the same islamic supremacists behavior that they ignored in their former colonies all over the world.

During the 20th century Britain has been consistently the most pro-islamic of the European powers leading to the creation of islamic supremacists nations such as Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Sudan, Malaysia where millions of infidels where genocided and forced to live under islamic rule. So remind the British how their betrayals caused the suffering of millions of Hindus and Sikhs in the subcontinent, the Biafrans and South Sudanese in Africa, the Jews that where prevented from escaping the Holocaust in order to appease the Arabs of Palestine, the Assyrians that where left behind in Iraq, or the Greeks of Cyprus that where victims of the turkish invasion.

Hopefully that will help make the British realize that no appeasement or dhimmi behavior will help: Recent history proves that where muslims and non-muslims live, there is a constant state of conflict until the infidels are wiped out or they drive away the muslims. It doesn't matter whether it's Europe, Asia or Africa or what color of skin the muslims or infidels have. The British should know that better than any other Western Europeans. So Schadenfreude may be a lot better than saying nothing.

Infidel Pride:

In the end the way I see it, lets say that in the case of the whole world the adage IGNORANCE is BLISS does not apply to Islam. When it comes to Islam IGNORANCE is OUR OWN UNDOING. The point being Islam will cut us down every chance it gets. There is no room for second chances here in my opinion. Get to know the enemy, the way they think, they way they behave in order to defeat it.

After a number of recent attacks in India, Israel, and worldwide and infidels killed I cannot but portray the Islamic attitude as a way to see how they think, but also to convey that Islamic superiority reigns given this example of the dhimmi koran movie. It tells me that already they are showing their Imperialistic attitude towards Britain and the rest of the world that they(non Muslims)have to keep appeasing Muslims until Muslims get want they want and that all non Muslims are not good enough value to Muslims or Islam.

I bet they were jumping in delight after every suicide attack on infidels as they scream with ecstasy at the blood of infidels with ALLAH U AKBAR, in their Mosques so that no infidel can see them. I can see the invading armies of the UMMAH going in and attacking unsuspecting infidels and raping women and looting and murdering with great Schadenfreude, and screaming ALLAH U AKBAR. I can imagine those begging for their lives and seeing the Jihadis laughing at their misfortune, and converting them at the sword. It was even apparent when 9/11 happened through the UMMAH there was great jubilation at the expense of those killed here in the US. Screams of ALLAH U AKABAR resonated in every Mosque even in infidel lands.

So Schadenfreude is alive and well in the Islamic Mindset. I will laugh because really after 7 years and all the research and events that have occurred there are dhimmis movies being put out. So yes I will laugh at that because it shows me that there is willingness for people to somehow wash away what is apparent and what is occurring in front of their eyes. I mean those regulars here should now that it is a foolish thing and Muslims will respond in the way that they did, it already shows to them dhimmitude. I suppose that post should have gone to the producers of that movie not here.

buraq_is_dead, I know German so I can read your links. You're dead right islam is designed to appeal to the basest animal insitncts of Man.

Thus it is the opposite of all other religions who attempt to instill ethical behavior toward others.

I know I am right when I say that alla is indeed the anti-Christ.

"schadenfreude"

Gesundheit!

Ummah Gummah, Paul, and Wishbone, in regard to the amusement pier fire:
I agree that accidents happen, and that there are other causes for fires and explosions besides terrorist attacks. But there a couple of suspicious things about this.
1. It started before 7 a.m. That would be at least a few hours before opening. How long does it take for the chips shop to get its fat up to temperature?
2. One witness on the film noted that the fire spread "incredibly rapidly". An accelerant, perhaps?
So, yes, perhaps an accident. Or perhaps, the always popular arson-for-insurance-money fire. Or, just maybe, a terrorist attack where the bomb's timer went off 4 or 5 hours early. Note that it began at the landward end of the amusement area. Any visitors would have been trapped.
And what was the situation of the tides? How deep does it get undet the pier at high tide? At least in the last stages of the fire, the tide seemed to be out, with flaming bits dropping onto moist sand. But when was the tide in?

http://pinoyhistory.proboards22.com/index.cgi?board=othereras&action=display&thread=282

That's how General Pershing dealt with the moslem problem.. seems like it worked.. :-)

Can I please get a job teaching at West Point? I'll do it for like $40K and basic benefits. I'm not in it for the money.. just a roof over my head and a place I can take a shower at and a fridge.. let me teach those cadets the way to deal with pigslam..

I make way more money right now but I'd rather do something to help us survive in the long run.. wishbone et al be damned..

Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

Poisonous scorpions (Shi'ites) object to their poison being noted.

Venomous reptiles (Sunnis) agree.

Islam: fatal when applied.

buraq is dead - I can read German, too. The essay on that first link was interesting. Thanks.

As for Muslim outrage - I have a file on my computer for articles such as this one re the reaction to the Channel 4 'Quran' program. It's labelled "The Religion of Perpetual Outrage".

And also from that file, where I tucked it away for future reference, I shall now re-post, for the delectation of those who only discovered this site after October 06, and may not yet have had time to explore the archives, a Hugh Fitzgerald Classic, from October 2006:

95 Things That Cause Muslim Extremism (or, one might say, 95 Things That Make Muslims Angry):

“The American presence in Iraq fuels Muslim extremism.”
-- a conclusion concluded from the National Intelligence Estimate by many concluders in solemn conclusory conclave assembled.

Ninety-Five Other Things That Also Fuel Muslim Extremism:

1. Salman Rushdie’s “The Satanic Verses.”


2. The British government’s protection of Salman Rushdie.


3. The American coup against Mossadegh in 1953, cited by some Iranians as the direct cause of the takeover of Iran by the Ayatollah Khomeini more than 25 years later.


4. The remarks of Pim Fortuyn about Muslim attitudes toward liberal Dutch mores.


5. The movie by Theo van Gogh about the subjection of women in Islam.


6. The election of Ayaan Hirsi Ali to the Dutch Parliament.


7. Hindus passing by mosques as Friday Prayers end.


8. The failure of Americans in Iraq to sufficiently subdue the Sunni insurgents.


9. The failure of Americans in Iraq to sufficiently subdue the Shi’a militias.


10. The failure of Americans in Iraq to sufficiently subdue the Kurdish desire for independence.


11. The failure of Americans in Iraq to give Baghdad an instant makeover so that it resembles the most prosperous and advanced American city.


12. The failure of Americans to solve every economic problem in Iraq, to make Sunnis and Shi’a friends, to get the oilfields pumping at full capacity, and to make donations even beyond the many tens of billions spent directly on reconstruction in Iraq.

13. The failure of the Americans, in obtaining debt relief from all Infidel creditors for Iraq (but not from any of the Muslim Arab states), to persuade those same Infidel countries to supply another $50-$100 billion.


14. The refusal of the French state to permit the wearing of the hijab.


15. The insistence, by the French state, that texts by Voltaire, Montaigne, Proust, and other writers deemed or perceived to be anti-Islamic by Muslims, be assigned to students, as required reading, by the Ministry of Education.


16. The selling of alcohol by Christians in Basra.


17. The existence of Christians in Basra.


18. The continued functioning of Christian churches in Baghdad.


19. The Copts in Egypt who complain when Muslims attack their churches and other institutions, or kidnap and forcibly convert Coptic girls to Islam.


20. The Filipinos who try to hold private religious services in Saudi Arabia, land on which no non-Muslims should be present in any case.

21. The American airmen who were assigned to bases in Saudi Arabia and who showed insufficient obeisance to their Saudi masters, all daggers and dishdashas, with their sneers of cold command.


22. The obvious superiority of Western economies.


23. The obvious superiority of Western education.


24. The obvious superiority of Western medical care.


25. The obvious superiority of Western artistic achievement.


26. The obvious superiority of Western (fill in here whatever you like).


27. The failure of Muslims living in the countries of Western Europe to have a standard of living equal or superior to that of non-Muslims.


28. The continued refusal of non-Muslims in the West to institute a formalized long-term system of Jizyah, by which Muslims can be supported; they now must make do only with the benefits provided by Infidel taxpayers on a year-to-year basis.


29. The financial support given by the Americans to the Mubarak regime in Egypt that enrages the Muslim Brotherhood.


30. The financial support given by the Americans to successive Jordanian kings and kinglets, which enrages the Muslim Brotherhood.


31. The diplomatic and other support given by the Americans to the corrupt Al-Saud family of “Saudi” Arabia, which enrages Al-Qaeda and its local supporters.


32. The threats by some in the United States to withdraw support from the Mubarak Friends-and-Family Plan, which whips up anti-American sentiment among Egyptian Muslims.


33. The threats by some in the United States to withdraw support from Pakistan if it does not collaborate less meretriciously in the soi-disant “war on terror,” which whips up anti-American sentiment among Pakistani Muslims.


34. The temporary withdrawal of Infidel support for the “Palestinians,” who deserve to receive Infidel aid of every kind, and permanently.


35. The discussion by some in the West of ways to diminish, in order to prevent further global warming, the use of oil -– which discussion is seen as damaging Arab and Muslim interests, and must therefore be regarded as a deliberate attack on Islam.


36. The reference by Pope Benedict to a 14th century Byzantine emperor’s remarks in the course of a scholarly address at Regensburg.

37. The refusal of Pope Benedict to continue to apologize, and his apparent refusal to completely humiliate himself, before Muslims demanding such humiliation.


38. The Israeli “occupation” of Sinai, Gaza, and the West Bank after the Six-Day War.


39. The Israeli “occupation” of Gaza and the West Bank (more properly, Judea and Samaria) after the Camp David Accords.


40. The Israeli “occupation” of the West Bank {more properly, of Judea and Samaria) after the full withdrawal from Gaza.


41. The Israeli “occupation” of the sacred Arab and Muslim soil on which the only Jewish state was created in 1948.


42. The presence of Jews in the Middle East.


43. The presence of Jews, un-cowed, anywhere in the world.


44. The presence of a strong, self-assured community of Christians in Lebanon.


45. The presence of Copts in Egypt, who sometimes act as if they, too, too, have a right to regard Egypt as their land.


46. The refusal of Italian authorities to prosecute, before her death, the outspoken and intelligent journalist, Oriana Fallaci.


47. The refusal of Italian authorities to ban Dante in schools because of the mention of Muhammad in The Inferno.


48. The refusal of Italian authorities to remove or cover over frescoes in Bologna that depict Muhammad in an unflattering manner.


49. The refusal of the government of Denmark to punish a Danish newspaper, Jyllands-Posten, for daring to exercise the right of free speech.


50. The refusal of Hindus to abandon any claim to ancient sites, where Hindu temples once stood until destroyed by Muslim invaders.


51. The refusal of some Hindus to forget the history of India.


52. The refusal of some European governments to permit Muslim mosques of any size to be built wherever, whenever, and with whatever towering minarets and electronic amplifying equipment, as Muslims believe is their sacred right.

53. The attempts by some Western police to enter mosques where they have found, in the past, false passports and other documents, as well as weapons including guns and explosives, sometimes hidden in false ceilings.


54. The attempt to permit Europeans to continue, even outside Denmark, to exercise the so-called right of free speech, as has happened with Charlie-Hébdo and other French newspapers.


55. The refusal of the University of Geneva to renew the contract of Tariq Ramadan.


56. The public displays of piggy-banks, and of allusions in English pub names such as The Saracen’s Head, which may offend Muslims.


57. The discussions by some national authorities in Holland and state authorities in Germany of the need for more stringent qualifications for nationalization, and in some cases the institution of those more stringent qualifications.


58. The single mention by President Bush of the word “islamofascism” -– a word which Muslims all over insisted must never again be repeated by him, and which he never again repeated.


59. The behavior of American soldiers who have on several occasions returned deadly fire coming at them from mosques in Iraq.


60. The behavior of the British police in not notifying Muslim authorities well in advance of any planned raids on any suspected Muslim terrorists in Great Britain; this is a grave offense which has now apparently been rectified in order to win Muslim hearts and Muslim minds.


61. The belief that some in the West continue to hold, that Jews do have a historic as well as religious connection to the part of Dar al-Islam they call Israel.


62. The outrageous way in which Infidels refer to the Prophet Muhammad as if he is not universally regarded as the Perfect Man, uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil.

63. The mention by Infidels of aspects of Muhammad’s life -– such as the Khaybar Oasis attack, the Banu Qurayza decapitation, the murder of Asma bint Marwan, the marriage to nine-year-old Aisha; these are not true, or if true, are not things which Infidels have any right either to discuss or even to know about.


64. The belief of some Infidels that those who give up on Islam, who are apostates and therefore traitors to Islam, could after their act of treason conceivably continue to know anything about Islam, given that Allah clearly takes away from such people all their previous knowledge of Islam at the very moment when they decide to apostasize.


65. The outrageous belief by some Infidels that nonetheless they may have reason to listen to the testimony of ex-Muslims as to the real contents of Islam.


66. The outrageous and insulting mention, by Infidels, of such words as “taqiyya” (dissimulation) and “kitman” (mental reservation – only telling part of what one knows, in a misleading manner).


67. The outrageous mention, by Infidels, of the word “dhimmi,” about which they cannot possibly have any accurate conception, and which they have no right to discuss in the first place unless they are Muslims.


68. The outrageous attempt to suggest that people are not born Muslims.


69. The outrageous attempt to suggest that the spread of Islam was ever undertaken through violence, when everyone knows it was a case of sudden mass conversion.


70. The refusal of this or that Infidel religious leader, political figure, writer, artist, comedian, or simply you, or simply I, to exhibit the proper attitude toward Islam, Islam, Islam.


71. The wherewithal provided by OPEC revenues that enables the Saudis, especially, to fund mosques and madrasas worldwide and thereby to naturally increase the numbers of “extremists” in the Lands of the Infidels.


72. The wherewithal of OPEC revenues that pay for an army of Western hirelings, including former diplomats (mostly English and American), former intelligence agents, former and present journalists (especially those covering the Middle East), public relations experts, businessmen eager for contracts in the Gulf, and many other fixers and middlemen. This helps delay the day of new energy policies that could conceivably diminish the OPEC oil revenues that fund the Jihad, and also prevents the unwary from regarding Saudi Arabia as anything other than a “staunch ally.”


73. The willingness of journalists to overlook obvious links between the practice of Jihad and the doctrine of Jihad, encouraged by journalists who still do not feel any obligation to learn about Islam. This encourages Muslims to make demands for changes in political and legal institutions in the West, or to insist that outspoken Infidels -- the Pope, Theo van Gogh, Jyllens-Posten -- must stop speaking or writing about Islam.

Any such refusal to comply with Muslim demands engenders -- “fuels” -- Muslim “extremism.”


74. The refusal of the Buddhists in southern Thailand to stop being Buddhists [and become Muslims as they are supposed to].

75. The refusal of the Christians in the southern Philippines to submit to the demands to hand over lands to the Muslims of As Sayyaf.


76. The refusal of Christians in Sulawesi to stop holding church services.


77. The refusal of the Israeli government to stop trying to protect ancient archeological sites in Jerusalem, many of which have been severely damaged by the Muslim construction on and deep within the Temple Mount.


78. The refusal of Hindus in India to concede to Muslim demands for the full application of Shari’a to the Muslim community.

79. The refusal of Orthodox priests in monasteries in Bosnia and Kosovo to abandon the monasteries to Muslims who are clamoring to destroy them.


80. The outrageous insistence by the world’s Armenians and by many others that Turkey stop denying the mass murder of Armenians by Muslim Turks between 1915 and 1920.


81. The outrageous demands by many Infidel lands that outside forces be brought in to protect the non-Arab Muslims from the Arab Muslims in Darfur, despite the express opposition of both the government of the Sudan and the Arab League.


82. The outrageous demands by some Infidels that Muslims should be permitted to open mosques only on the basis of reciprocity -- that is, on the basis of similar permission being granted to non-Muslims in Muslim lands.


83. The outrageous refusal of some Infidel countries to prevent transmissions of Al Manar and other satellite channels run by terrorist groups.


84. The refusal of many Western countries -- Great Britain, Germany, Canada -- to yield to demands of local Muslims that they be made subject only to the Shari’a [i.e., to Muslim despots administering Muslim religious laws] and not to the manmade laws of the Infidels.


85. The refusal by Australia to cease contributing troops to help their American allies in Afghanistan and Iraq.

86. The continued existence of Jews.


87. The continued existence of Christians.


88. The continued existence of Hindus.


89. The continued existence of Sikhs.


90. The continued existence of Buddhists.


91. The continued existence of followers of Confucius
 [and of the Tao, and of Shinto].

92. The continued existence of agnostics.


93. The continued existence of atheists.


94. Everything.


95. Nothing.

'Some, especially in Lutheran lands, may be satisfied with these 95 theses.

'Others may prefer to round out the polemical embonpoint by adding another five items to the list.

'Still others may wish to keep adding to the list from the rich profusion of items offered by each day’s Jihad news -- items in keeping with the nature and quite unnecessary nurture of the belief-system of Islam.

'It took very little time to compose this list. It would not take much longer to add another hundred, two hundred, three hundred items to the list of things that “fuel Muslim extremism.”

Posted by Hugh at October 10, 2006 10:35 AM".

Muslims alwasy seem to to complaining about other (Jews) sewing discord amongst themselves. Of course, Muslims themselves are totally reasonable and never go out of their way to start fights with anyone. They believe is flowers, hugs , kissess and marshmellow roasts around the campfire singing happy songs to resolve any differences.

European Crusader quote; "So remind the British how their betrayals caused the suffering of millions of Hindus and Sikhs in the subcontinent, the Biafrans and South Sudanese in Africa, the Jews that where prevented from escaping the Holocaust in order to appease the Arabs of Palestine, the Assyrians that where left behind in Iraq, or the Greeks of Cyprus that where victims of the turkish invasion."
I agree with what you say, but th blame was international as much as it was British. The League of Nations and UN have caused much of what has happened.
The Dutch said that the Dutch East Indies should be split, but the rest of the world, led by the USA, kowtowed to Sukarno, then Suharto and forced non-muslims into dhimmitude. This was particularly disgusting in the case of Papua where ethno-religious cleansing has occurred since the formation of Indonesia, which the people of Papua didn't want.
Let's compare Kosovo with Kurdistan, Biafra and Kuazulu, to take but three from many.
The UN, EU and USA recognise Kosovo's independence, yet Kurds, Biafrans and Zulus must live under a superstate, at international behest.
The Kurds and other muslims will eventually be given recognition (like Kosovo's muslim Albanians), but non-muslims will continue to be oppressed by larger states, especially if it is muslims doing the oppressing.

Muslims must celebrate anger. They are always angry. They do not need a reason to be angry. They were born angry. Born to be angry.

My advice to the world is not to worry about what does or does not anger the muslims. Muslims are always angry and they will always be angry no matter what. So why bother worry about angering muslims.

Stephen Gash: I agree, those were western mistakes, not just British. Kosovo hasn't been recognized by the UN or the entire EU though. Russia and China will veto any UN recognition and there are still 7 EU countries that haven't recognized it.