Promising student by day, mujahid out to "wipe out infidels" by night
Update on this story. "Model pupil secretly studied ways of wiping out non-Muslims," from Yorkshire Post, August 19:
Britain’s youngest terrorist - a teenager from West Yorkshire - was behind bars today after a guide to death and explosives was found in the schoolboy’s home.Now, of all Muslims, surely a 'alim's grandson would be in a good position to know the true nature of jihad -- you know, that it's primarily about "being a better student, a better colleague, a better business partner. Above all, to control one's anger." Just another Misunderstander of Islam?Hammaad Munshi, just 16 and taking GCSEs when arrested, was part of a cell of cyber groomers that set out to brainwash the vulnerable to kill “non-believers”.
For nearly a year the Dewsbury teenager, whose grandfather is a leading Islamic scholar, led a double life.
By day he attended lessons at the local comprehensive and did as he was told.Must have been inspired by the most ruthless of all jihadists, Khalid bin Walid, also known as Sayf Allah -- "Sword of Allah."But in the evening he spent hours surfing jihadist sites and distributing material to others as part of what the Crown branded a “worldwide conspiracy” to “wipe out” non-Muslims.
London’s Blackfriars Crown Court heard it contained detailed instructions about making napalm, other high explosives, detonators, and grenades, and “how to kill”.
He was 15 when recruited by Aabid Khan, 23, a “key player” in radicalising the impressionable and vulnerable here and abroad with his message of “violent jihad”.[...]
Khan wanted to fulfil the teenager’s wish to go abroad and “fight jihad”, and during one internet exchange discussed how the schoolboy might smuggle a sword through airport security.[...]
Two bags of ball-bearings - the shrapnel of choice for suicide bombers - were found in one of his pocketsOn his PC were al Qaida propaganda videos and recordings promoting “murder and destruction”.
The teenager, whose grandfather is Sheikh Yakub Munshi, president of the Islamic Research Institute of Great Britain at the Markazi Mosque, Dewsbury, also stored notes on martyrdom under his bed.
“One who is not taking part in the battle nor has the sheer intention to die is in the branch of hypocrisy,” they read.
“I don’t want to be a person like it has been mentioned about, I don’t want to be deprived of the huge amounts or lessons Allah has prepared for the believers in the hereafter.”
It's amazing what 72 virgins can teach a callow youth!
People, suicide attack in Algeria:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080819/ap_on_re_af/algeria_suicide_attack
A good student. Had he applied for a scholarship?
Mr Denison said the documents the defendants demonstrated "motivation by their common cause - violent jihad against non-believers.
"The computers, CDs and books... were the necessary tools of their trade for the furtherance of that violent cause.
"Each of the defendants is Muslim. The material in their possession promoted extreme ideology, most notoriously of Osama bin Laden of al Qaida, as well as groups in various countries that adopted it.
"In simple terms there is a global conspiracy... against those who don't believe in their extreme vision of Islam and to wipe out those of other faiths."
-From the article and prosecutor
Will Brits digest this perception and act accordingly. There is no PC sugar coating here.
This is just one cell that was discovered. How many of these young, Zombies of Allah are out there and when will they they finally succeed to wreak destruction and death on the British population?
How many of these young, Zombies of Allah are out there and when will they they finally succeed to wreak destruction and death on the British population?
Posted by: Briars at August 19, 2008 12:01 PM
Just wait for the 2012 Olympics in Londonistan.
Subject a young mind to Islamic indoctrination and a certain percentage come out like this; the rest support people like this.
Now where could he have gotten these crazy ideas?
My, he's a cutie!
A "model" student. Yeah a model jihadi student.
He sure looks like a promising student - if you're teaching Murder 101.
“One who is not taking part in the battle nor has the sheer intention to die is in the branch of hypocrisy,” they read.
So much for the greater jihad, the inner struggle.
watch what the do they do to this young boy. not enough, is all i'll say....
PMK: Looks as though the greater jihad is being replaced by the lesser jihad as of paramount importance, so that the lesser jihad is morphing into the greater jihad and the greater jihad is by stages becoming the lesser jihad. Ah, it's just so difficult being a Muslim these days, isn't it? Poor dears.
How many of these young, Zombies of Allah are out there and when will they they finally succeed to wreak destruction and death on the British population?
Posted by: Briars at August 19, 2008 12:01 PM
Just wait for the 2012 Olympics in Londonistan.
Posted by: darcy
Too late. Death was visited on the Underground. The destruction of the British culture proceeds apace. It will all be over by 2012.
This doesn't mean the British population will disappear, only that it will have been crushed under the weight of Islam. Dhimmification will be a fact of life. King Charles will see to it. Not even King William will be able to stop it once it gets that far.
Motivated, ambitious young man who knows what he wants and how to get it. Great communication skills as evidenced by his internet work. Strong family values and the pride and self-esteem the British educational system works so hard to inculcate. The French educational system has failed utterly to produce such focused, effective and rooted young men. They have a generation of rootless Muslim car-burners with no thought for tomorrow.
I only hope the French can learn from the UK how to produce such disciplined and clean-cut 'youths'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSWLLc6uikE
~Muslims Will Be The Majority In 20 Years~
They are being told to lay low until then, then what...
Clark Kent, Bruce Wayne, Peter Parker... and Islam's answer to them is Hammaad Munshid?
My, he's a cutie!
Posted by: darcy
LOL! At first glance I thought it read, "Britian Model", as in, fashion model. Whoa!
He's ugly inside and out, what with his plans to kill the infidel, and he obviously doesn't get any sleep. He's a night crawler, and where there's one night crawler, you can bet that there are more; like his grandfather, for instance. Sounds like gramp's needs a thorough investigation too - hey - they all do.
Borg: Thank you very much for the link to that four minute, twenty-eight second video. Everyone posting here who knows Islam for what it really is, and especially those in Europe, should watch this. Stunning admissions. I don't use the word "scary" very much because I think it's overused but this time it's warranted respecting a characterization of what is revealed in this video. Aside from the overall deception in ensuring permanent and eventual majority Muslim residency in Europe, the one guy's equating freedom of speech as the Western equivalent of the Koran is particularly chilling. Really, folks, take the time to watch what Borg has provided a link to in his 12:47 P.M. post above. You won't regret it, though you also won't like it.
affirmative action student?
@ Wellington-
I just viewed the video. Actually the word chilling comes to mind for me. Although some think that the time frame for their majority will be 20 years, I am more inclined to believe it will be within 5-8 years.
5 - 8 years?
Mark the calendar: December 21, 2012
The world (as we know it) is supposed to end.
It's the doomsday prophecy, with the same date picked by Chinese and Mayan civilizations.
Perhaps the US, and every other country desiring to remain non-Islamic, needs a cabinet level department to identify and resist Islamic drift.
Define threats:
Sharia = legal system incompatible with US Constitution.
Support for sharia = insurrection.
Jihad = violent overthrowing of government.
Support for jihad = aid and comfort to enemy in time of war.
Any active jihad = attempted murder.
Taqiya = deceit to advance Islam.
Practicing taqiya = contempt of court (in court); support for jihad.
Add to my list! Use it to approach elected officials, law enforcement and the courts. Let's define the enemy, its tactics, its end game. We already have a list of violent and sublte attacks on our countries and statements by the enemy to illustrate our points.
First borg very interesting especially the rhetoric of islam being the victim sound a bit like nazi germany 1932.
Second they should interact and mingle with the europeans to show there morals exactly what can islam teach us kill all others not like us teach us what tolerance this is two moderate muslims haveing a conversation and why i say we must fight this war anywhere islam is oppressingt others as a united front.
TAN forget 72 virgins imagine what one well trained hooker can do.
Connect the dots:
1.Must have been inspired by the most ruthless of all jihadists, Khalid bin Walid, also known as Sayf Allah -- "Sword of Allah."
2.(from an old JIhad Watch story): October of 2007 Navy Chaplain Lieutenant Commander Abuhena M. Saifulislam led 100 Islamic faithful, kneeling toward Mecca, in prayer to Allah to celebrate Ramadan at the Pentagon.
“Saifulislam” = “Sword of Islam.”
The Pentagon invites the Sword of Islam right inside to lead prayers against us! How stupid can we get.
http://jihadwatch.org/archives/018364.php
I, too, just looked at the video linked by Borg. How interesting that the interviewee tells European Moslems to become respectable. In other words he's telling them to stop being Moslems. Respectable people don't kill their daughters for refusing to wear the tribal headdress; they don't sent their sons to training camps in Pakistan to learn how to make bombs and fire AK-47s; they don't marry off their 12-year-old daughters to cousin Abdul from the Old Country. Oh, there are so many things that Moslems do that respectable people don't!
Of course he says they only have to be respectable for the next 10-20 years, after that they can revert to their true colors. Well, I don't think there's much to worry about from this proposal: very few Moslems are capable of acting respectably for even one year, much less ten.
What he doesn't seem to realize is that Westerners' ideas of Islam come not just from the 25-30 million of them in Europe, but from the billion or more of them throughout the world. Those in Europe may become model citizens, but Europeans will still see the examples of Islam-in-action elsewhere: the beheadings of Christian school-girls in Indonesia, the bombing of Hindu commuters in India, the murder of Buddhist monks in Thailand, the executions of homosexuals and rape victims in Iran, the mass-murder of black Africans in the Sudan, etc. For his plan to work, Moslems all over the world must become respectable. They can't, it's just not in them, it's against all their religious teaching.
For his plan to work, Moslems all over the world must become respectable. They can't, it's just not in them, it's against all their religious teaching.
Posted by: ebonystone at August 19, 2008 5:15 PM
Right. Because the K teaches them all to become mass-murderers, and that Allah will reward them for "slaying and being slain."
A bunch of obvious BS, but that's what the Brainwashed Billion believe. They have nothing else. No Science, Literature, Art, Music, Inventions, to speak of, except for a few examples. But that's not enough. Ergo, the lion's share of Muslim identity rests on the Koran.
Did someone from the House of Horror make this guy up, or is he just naturally dead looking? Imagine bumping into him in a dark alley - or scarier still - a well lit alley. Shiver.
The porch lights are on but of course..no one is home.
Not to calm things down here, but there is NO WAY IN HELL that 25 million Moslems can be a Euro-majority in 25 years. Let us posit a staggering growth rate of 6%...FOR 25 STRAIGHT YEARS. Doubles in 12...Quadruples in 24, so we're up to ~100 million. What is the khaffir population, 350 mil?
The population decline in Europe is a real problem, as is the growth of majority-Islamic enclaves, but it serves no purpose to exaggerate it and make it appear a solution is hopeless.
One can't help but wonder if little, benign things like abolishing welfare support for polygamous immigrants--jeez, maybe even deporting immigrant polygamists?--will have salutary effects on the growth of the jihadi culture, and a restoration of confidence in European culture.
JewishOdysseus: A sober analysis. Thank you. My spirits all already emboldened as I reach for a Smithwicks, courtesy of the Guiness Brewery Company (not only do Muslims get freedom wrong, they also get beer wrong, and reasonable minds can differ as to which is the greater offense; in fact, a sensible person could ask, can one exist without the other?-----beer and freedom, made for each other).
Besides, in addition to your calculations, there should be taken into account how many young Muslims in Europe, and particularly females, will not be able to avoid the liberating wonders of Western Civilization as compared to all the idiocies and insufferable restraints manifested and imposed by that most restrictive of phenomena that could be labelled "Islamic theology." These more sensible folks, though brought up Muslim, will hopefully "pull" a Hirsi Ali in large numbers, also helping to negate the predictions put forth by Muslims who are so eager to impose their spiritual fascism on the West by way of the demographic imperative.
Wellington, JewishOdysseus
yes. There are things that can be done.
All practising Christians throughout Europe and everywhere else should be putting saturation evangelism of the Muslim communities inside 'the West' at the top of their agenda.
Broadcast things like the 'Jesus' film regularly, subtitled or dubbed in the languages known to be used at home by Muslim immigrants (e.g. Urdu, Turkish, Arabic in its various street versions; make a special point of broadcasting in languages that have been repressed by the Arabs or Turks - e.g. the Berber languages, and Kurdish).
Re-broadcast Fr Zakaria Botros' show throughout the lands of the kafir (with subtitles in languages like English and French so that NON-muslims can watch and learn, as well).
(By the way: every other non-Muslim faith should be hard at work, too, putting their case. I'm not bothered by that. All the major available choices are preferable to Islam, when considered from a purely practical and prudential point of view. And if people - like Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina, Ayaan Hirsi Ali - choose to embrace what might be called the Path of Pure Reason, classic western style rationalism, then again, though as a Christian I have to say I'd like to see them finding their way to Christ eventually, for the moment I'm happy enough that they're free of the death-cult!).
We can push, push push at our politicians and police, with a view to implacable punishment of all 'honor' murderers, and of all Muslims who attack, or threaten to attack, apostates and 'blasphemers'. Come down on all manifestations of 'sharia' like a ton of bricks.
If those hesitating on the edge of apostasy within the kafir lands knew that they could 'jump ship' safely - that they would be welcomed (subject of course to *very* careful review and observation so as to weed out infiltrators/ taqiyya artists) and protected - the trickle of apostates might well become a flood, among women and girls in particular. In the beginning you might need something analogous to the 'witness protection scheme' that applies to people defecting from, and testifying against, organisations such as the Mafia.
Think: had Amina and Sarah, or Aqsa Parvez, for example, been able to flee their murderous Muslim dads and find safe haven; had they then met delightful, intelligent, honest, loving, gentle, trustworthy kafir lads (whether Christian, Jewish, secular, or even perhaps Hindu or Buddhist), just how long do you think they would have stayed 'Muslim'?
Even the stumbling, seemingly 'dead' churches of western Europe - in France, Italy, Switzerland, Scandinavia, the UK - have found themselves dusting off their 'liturgy of adult baptism' as they have encountered ex-Muslims converting to Christianity.
Patrick Sookhdeo was converted in a British University in the 1960s - not what one would think of as an environment conducive to such a choice.
dumbledoresarmy: You make a good point. Surely some Musims in the West will find their way to Christianity, which is an infinitely preferable religion to Islam (and I write this as a devout agnostic). How anyone could prefer Mohammed to Jesus (or Buddha or Confucius or Zoroaster or.....) is beyond me. Mohammed is such an unattractive fellow and in so many ways. This is so easy to see. And, yes, it's too bad Christianity is presently moribund in Europe. Talk about bad timing for the good guys.
In the U.S. he wouldn't get more than two years probation if he had an AK47. Wonder what he'll get (if anything) in the U.K.
It is 10 Pm . Do you know how many young Muslims are planning to attack this country at this very minute?
No.
In Islam there is no difference between educated and uneducated, rich and poor, Indian and non Indian. All are guided by the same terror manual called Koran and all are slaves of Mohamed!! The world has to chose any one in Islam and peace, not both!!
His eyes hold nothing but contempt for the kafir.
Grandpa taught him well.
The business about this Muslim teenager being a model pupil at a kafir school by day, and a jihadist by night, reminds me of *this* story from September 2007, by Andrew Norfolk of the Timesonline, discussing a book by Pakistani Muslim 'scholar', Taqi Usmani -
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece
headlined: Our followers "must live in peace until strong enough to wage jihad".
It also reminds me of that story not so long ago, about the schoolteacher at the UNRWA school in Gaza, who 'moonlighted' as a jihadist bomb-maker.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020906.php
"BY DAY, Awad al-Qiq was a respected teacher and headmaster at a United Nations school in the Gaza Strip.
"By night, he built rockets for Islamic Jihad.
"The Israeli air strike that killed the 33-year-old last week also laid bare his apparent double life and embarrassed a UN agency that has long had to reject Israeli accusations that it has aided and abetted guerrillas fighting the Jewish state.
"Students and colleagues, as well as UN officials, denied any knowledge of Qiq's work with explosives.
"And his family denied he had any militant {jihadi - dda} links, despite a profusion of Islamic Jihad posters at his home.
'But militant leaders {i.e. jihad bosses - dda} allied to the enclave's ruling Hamas group have hailed him as a martyr who led Islamic Jihad's "engineering unit" – its bomb makers. They fired improvised rockets into Israel in response to his death.
'Qiq's body was wrapped in an Islamic Jihad flag at his funeral, posters in his honour still bedeck his family home and a notice posted on the school gate declared that Qiq, "the chief leader of the engineering unit", would now find "paradise".'...
And, of course, there is Aafia Siddiqui, that Pakistani Muslim lady neuroscientist, MIT graduate, captured in Afghanistan with her handbag stuffed full - not with family photos, lipstick, tampons, tissues, coins, odd earrings, credit cards, but with...
"maps of New York, a list of potential targets that included the Statue of Liberty, Times Square, the subway system and the animal disease center on Plum Island, detailed chemical, biological and radiological weapon information that has been seen only in a handful of terrorist cases, as well as a thumb drive packed with emails".
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022181.php
I'm sure that while she was studying at MIT and consulting with her supervisor over her PhD at Brandeis Uni butter wouldn't have melted in her mouth; I'll bet most of her kafir classmates and instructors thought she was *so* sweet and charming and brilliant.
The smart ones, the educated ones, those who seem to be most westernised on the surface, can sometimes be the ones who are up to their necks in the ultra violent jihad plots.
Hammaad Munshi wasn't attending an Islamic School; he was attending the local comprehensive, working and learning, he would have appeared 'assimilated' at a casual glance.
Awad al-Qiq was not teaching in a Madrasa; he was teaching in a UN-run boys' high school that presumably had a western-style science curriculum.
Aafia Siddiqui was, it appears, genuinely clever - she graduated from MIT.
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde: the two faces of Islam personified.
There gooes another moderate Muslim!
Poor boy. All that pernicious Islamophobia in Britain must have driven him to it.