Such medicinal altruism! -- especially compared to the "treatment" these aspiring Muslim physicians (or these) would, in the name of "cultural understanding" and "sensitivity," offer the "other." "Co-operative Pharmacy to give Muslims medicine help during Ramadan," by Martin Beckford for the Telegraph, August 19:
Fasting Muslims are to be offered special help by a high street chain of chemists during Ramadan.Due to the fact that Islam follows a lunar calendar (remember the hilal) and so Ramadan randomly appears throughout the year -- summer months being particularly difficult, as the daylight lasts much longer.The Co-operative Pharmacy is offering free "medicine checks" during the holy month of Islam to make sure Muslim customers' health is not affected if they stop eating between sunrise and sunset.
For the first time, the chain has specially trained pharmacists at 40 branches in areas where there are large numbers of Muslims to teach them how fasting can affect the effectiveness of drugs.
It is the latest sign of how more and more British companies are developing the services they offer to cater to the needs of the country's two million-strong Muslim population.
Earlier this week it emerged that drivers can now buy car insurance that is compliant with Islamic law, while a growing number of high street banks are offering home loans that do not break sharia rules on lending.
"We appreciate the importance of cultural understanding and sensitivity when discussing the implications on health care of people's religious beliefs," said Adrian Price, The Co-operative Pharmacy's Professional Practice Manager.
"We're not making assumptions about how Muslim patients might act, but we strongly recommend they talk to their pharmacist."
It is one of the five pillars of Islam that Muslims should fast between sunrise and sundown during Ramadan.
This year the holy month begins at the start of September, which means there are more daylight fasting hours than if it fell later in the year as it has done recently.
As a result, the Co-op is warning that Muslims who change the times at which they take their medication or stop taking it with meals could damage its effectiveness.
This is so stupid! Why do they need help this Ramadan that they didn't need in previous ones? Can someone answer me on that one?
I really don't see a future for the great old britain anymore. They are comitting collective suicide by dhimmitude and they know it.
I recall reading at websites for Muslims worried queries about the gelatinous substance in pills that comes from pigs. Possibly the answer was based on "Darura" or "necessity" -- you simply have to take such pills for your health and Allah will understand.
Alternatively, perhaps Muslims should only take those medicines available to Muhammad and his companions in seventh-century Arabia. "Bida" or innovation is to be deplored. Why then accept the goods and services offered by Western, i.e., Infidel, medicine? Why not have faith in Allah? He was good enough for the Perfect Man, Muhammad? Shouldn't that be good enough for all Muslims?
Jews who fast, and we have been at it longer than the Muslims, go to their rabbis and/or doctors for advice about medicating while fasting - why because health overrides religious law, a dead person cannot please God only the living can fulfil God's will. Ergo, eventhough 25 hour fast of Yom Kippur is the most important religious observance in the Jewish calendar one is not allowed to fast - by Jewish law - if it would damage your health. Furthermore, pills and medicine are not food, therefore one is still allowed to take them when fasting, even with a minimal amout of water if necessary.
But the cult of Islam doesn't have such a notion that life overrides religious observance, on the contrary, as we have witnessed over 1400 years, Islamic observance overrides life. Just how perverse can you get? The whole notion that God would prefer His creations kill themselves rather than serve Him is totally whacked.
Oh, and just so that you Americans know, the Co-Operative Pharmacy is part of the socialist Co-Operative movement which today also includes the Co-Op bank, Co-Op supermarket chain, Co-Op dairies and Co-Op funeral parlours.
Just a minor quibble about the date being random.
The Lunar year is 354 days long, and the solar year is 365 days long. So every solar year, an uncorrected Lunar calendar looses 11 days. So in principle Ramdan should move 11 days earlier each year.
Jews have been using a Lunar calendar for much longer and insert a 13th month in about 7 out 19 years, in order to keep the holidays in the appropriate seasons linked up with the solar year. (It turns out to be way more complex than that, but is a good first order approximation).
Oh Please. PLEASE!!!! It's just unbelievable. As someone posted recently on another thread (can't remember which one), "9/11 was the best thing to happen for Mohammedans." Worldwide.
I was thinking this morning how overrun with Mohammedans Londonistan will be in 2012 at the next Olympics.
And I bet you a huge Jihad takes place. Just think of all those visiting Infidels. I bet it's in the planning stages right now, just as September 11, 2001, was in planning stages for some time. Anyone know exactly how long?
A bunch of whiners! Is such a big deal to fast from sunrise to sunset and eat like crazy after that?!? I know many Orthodox Christians who fast for three days (right before Easter - no food, no water!) and they don't make a big fuss "oh look at me! I'm fasting etc".
Makes me puke when I see the British leftist loonies stupid enough to take this crap seriously...
Good god, its skipping lunch.
Makes me puke when I see the British leftist loonies stupid enough to take this crap seriously...
Posted by: BlessUS_BanIslam at August 19, 2008 9:46 AM
Oh, it's crap allright. There's no other word for it.
Voluntary fasting between sunrise and sunset, oh the humanity!
I guess muslims have never dieted.
News stories from the Middle East every year during Ramadan report that Muslims actually gain weight during the month of "fasting."
It has something to do with the multi-hour gorging after sunset and the sleeping all day afterward that seem to be intrinsic to this religious festival of discipline and sacrifice.
"Good god, its skipping lunch."
-- a posting above
Yes, I never thought of it that way. Breakfast before sunrise, supper after sundown. Only lunch is skipped. And we can do all that. And now I'm feeling a bit peckish, myself.
BlessUS_banIslam said:
"I know many Orthodox Christians who fast for three days (right before Easter - no food, no water!) and they don't make a big fuss "oh look at me! I'm fasting etc".
Makes me puke when I see the British leftist loonies stupid enough to take this crap seriously..."
Do you think those British mult-culti types would offer them the same free medications they offer Muslims? Probably not. Multi-cultis hate Christians.
Sorry, but that's all folks. Stick a fork in England, they are done.
Why are the English going mad?
What will the Muslims living in Nome Alaska, or in Lapland, Finland do when Ramadan occurs in mid-Summer and the sun will not set for many weeks? Mass starvation while fasting until "sundown"?
And next year, there will be a new law passed requiring all non-muslims to also fast between sunrise and sundown, for fear of offending muslims.
From the same issue of the Telegraph:
Teenage boys 'forced to whip themselves during Muslim ceremony'
A devout Muslim forced two teenage boys to whip themselves with a bladed flail during a religious ceremony, a court has been told.
By Nigel Bunyan
Last Updated: 12:22AM BST 19 Aug 2008
Syed Mustafa Zaidi, 44, is said to have handed the youngsters the implement as members of the Shia community in Manchester celebrated the traditional ceremony of Ashura.
The boys, aged 15 and 13, then took turns to flagellate themselves in front of a large crowd of men.
Zaidi, of Eccles, Greater Manchester, is the first person in Britain to be prosecuted over the use of a Zanjeer Zani - a wooden-handled implement fitted with five chains, each of them bearing a curved knife.
Although the practice of self-flagellation is common among Shia Muslims, allowing children to harm themselves is allegedly contrary to British law.
Allegedly contrary to British law? WTF?
It's an interesting, but scary, article.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2580350/Teenage-boys-forced-to-whip-themselves-during-Muslim-ceremony.html
If people are taking medication, then presumably (duh!) they have a medical condition; i.e. a health problem serious enough to require medication. Sick people are exempt from the Ramadan fast, as are pregnant and nursing women, small children, and the elderly, at least they were last time I checked. Responsible pharmacists should not be encouraging sick people to fast, ESPECIALLY go without water, which is extremely dangerous even for healthy people, when even their own goofy religion doesn't require it. Any pharmacist who knows a sick person is abstaining from food and water and doesn't insist they stop immediately is not being "culturally sensitive"; he or she is being an unprofessional idiot.
Why are the English going mad?
Posted by: jewcat at August 19, 2008 7:01 PM
It's now "Dogs and Mad Englishmen."