"Acting like a Christian," sodomy victim swears on Koran
Other Muslims have also been quite fond of swearing on Allah's book. Either way, seems a moot point since the Koran itself encourages deception (see 8:30 and 16:106). Then again, those verses deal primarily with legitimizing Muslim deceit vis-a-vis infidels, whereas in this case, both the defendant and accused are Muslim. Thus the latter's hesitancy to swear on the Koran makes the sodomy accusation all the more plausible. "Saiful's method of swearing on Quran against Islamic teachings, says Nik Aziz," from Malaysia News, August 16:
BUKIT MERTAJAM, Aug 16 (Bernama) -- The method of swearing on the Quran used by Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan who has alleged that Parti Keadilan Advisor Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim sodomised him, is against the teachings of Islam, said PAS spiritual leader Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat.Besides, might make the taqiyya-practicing Muslim hesitate.Nik Aziz said the holding of a Quran to declare one was telling the truth was more an imitation of the Christian practice of swearing on the Bible.
"In Islam, anyone is free to declare that he or she is telling the truth in a matter, but not by holding the Quran as it is copying the practice of Christians," he told reporters[...]In other words, the burden of the proof is on the "sodomee," not sodomizer.The Kelantan Menteri Besar, however, said the "sumpah laknat' (swearing in the face of divine retribution) that was done by Saiful when he swore on the Quran was permitted by Islam and now it depended on the sincerity of his oath that he had been sodomised by Anwar.
On calls for Anwar to do likewise to proclaim his innocence, Nik Aziz said in Islam the one making the accusation should do it to declare he or she is telling the truth and later the accused must defend him or herself.
Yesterday, Saiful, 23, took the step of swearing on the Quran at the Federal Territory Mosque in Kuala Lumpur to declare that he was telling the truth that Anwar had sodomised him on June 26 at a condominium in Damansara in the federal capital.Anwar has described the action as dirty political gimmick to try and cause his downfall in the by-election.
Well, as long as the Koran teaches to lie and to deceive its hardly anything to go by, is it?
Personally, I couldn't give a hoot about what they do with it in Islamic countries, but if people like Keith Ellison use it in the West to be sworn into high office it becomes a serious worry.
It is totally unacceptable for Western judges to rule on it, or to even allow it in any courtroom in the dar-ul harb.
Case in point is the German judge who used the Koran to explain to a Muhammedan female that her husband is entitled to give her a good thrashing now and then according to Koranic 'law'.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but under Islamic Law, don't both men deserve immediate execution for partaking in homosexual behavior?
Does a MAN need to have four women as witnesses to accuse another MAN of rape/forcible sodomy?
Very sick.
Gee, just another day in that happy gay religion known as Islam.
Interesting stuff, concerned citizen.
No wonder that Sunni blow up shia and visa versa.
"Islamic leader declares swearing on Koran not legitimate in sodomy case"
Apparently the Islamic leaders feel no Mulim can swear his testimony is true before his peers while holding the Qur'an..
Maybe this Muslim victim will realize the Qur'an is not all it is cracked up to be...he may come to realize the Qur'an is not a book to swear truth by...he may realize that the Muslims terrorists swear their actions by the words from the Qur'an.
Maybe he will connect the dots.
Perhaps someone should amend the islamic laws to:
1. Force men to cover themselves in Burka.
2. Other men wont look at these men as opened candy or open meat.
3. OR since islam is a men domination religion, allow sodomizing to be legal. (it happens all the time in middle eastern muslim countries anyway)
ON TOP OF THAT, THEY SHOULD AMMEND:
0. Jesus Christ did die on the Cross for mankind.
(personally, I AM OFFENDED by the koran)
Ban this book or remove this offending statements.
Swearing by it offends anyone in Christianity.