Jihad leader asks terrorists to shun violence

No violence? Did he ask them to burn the Koran? No? Good luck with that.

I smell a taquiya moment. Or a hudna moment. Just depends.

l would not hold my breath to wait for a lasting peace, as islamists cannot resists violence against anyone in their way, ie kaffirs, and bad muslims.

suspend terror operations

That's a long way from "shunning violence".

UJC has decided to ask militants not to display weapons in public rallies and also desist from militant action near rallies, the statement added.

Desist from action "NEAR RALLIES". That leaves lots of room to operate.

Don't DISPLAY weapons in public rallies. That also doesn't mean the weapons aren't there.

Times of India needs a new headline writer. Someone can't read what's in their own paper.

Yeah, that would go over really well in St. Louis...our police chief, tough on crime and well respected, gets kicked out for his daughter's behavior and these A..Hats ..India Times.. worry about "miscreants" displaying weapons...actually, North St. Louis at night is more dangerous...I'd recommend the ROPers keep their headgear on when visiting North St. Louis and for sure they'd be off'ed in the Walnut Park 'hood...for "self determination"..hah.'splain that without the proper gang signs...no turbans or skanky beards suffice..only in Srinigar...geez...

This terrorist dude, Sallahuddin, claimed in a 2007 interview: "We can hit any soft target in India at any time..."

http://ushome.rediff.com/news/2007/jan/09inter.htm

So let's get that checklist of what's OK right at this moment:
Continue Operations:
- Enforce Sharia: - OK
- Stone Adulterers - OK
- Forced Marriages - OK
- Beat wives that you suspect - OK
- Four witnesses to rape still required - OK
- Women's testimony is worth half that of a man - OK
- Kill apostates - OK
- Kill blasphemers - OK
- Kill or capture kuffar - OK, as long as no terror is involved and it's not near (how near?) a public rally.
- Bomb CD shops - On hold, at least near public rally.
- Stop vehicles and seize music cassette tapes - OK, as long as you don't terrorise your victims.
- Display weapons at public rally - On hold, for now
- Display weapons at private rally - OK
- Concealed weapons at any rally - OK
- Support democracy until a theocratic rulership is installed - OK
- Support democracy after a theocratic rulership is in power - Not OK: punish as per shari'ah.

Notes: Does 'near rallies' mean spacial or temporal or both. If a rally finishes at 4:00PM, can you set off a bomb at 5:00PM at the same place? Is 'near' less than a RPM's self-destruction range away, or out of range of an AK47 stray bullet? Maybe more than a stone's throw away is considered not near.

Golden Truth :

Question: What Techniques Kashmiri Muslims applied to Drive out 5LK Hindus from Kashmir?

*It started with Mufti(political Leader) engineering his daughters abduction Mehbooba Mufti.
*Kashmiri Muslims armed with AK 47 stared threatening and killing Hindus in Kashmir
*Kashmiri Muslims openly started burning hindu houses.
*Kashmiri Muslims did not stop at this they started selectively attacking and raping Hindu women and girls.
*Mosques in Kashmir openly started threatening hindus and telling them to change their faith or leave leaving their women folk behind or face death.
* Kashmiri Muslims openly danced around the dead bodies of killed hindus.
* Kashmiri Muslims started abducting school/college going hindu girls.
* Kashmiri Muslims started grenade attacks on hindu houses.
* Kashmiri Muslim mob used to gather outside hindu houses and threaten them.

"...right of self determination..."
From the article

Which means, let's use the democratic process to vote ourselves into power, and then we can enact shariah legislation to (1) relegate liberal democracy to be subservient to our superior Islamic electoral and judicial ideals, and (2) reinstitute the dhimma so we can get back to the Islamic norm of persecuting those hated Hindus, Christians, and all other apostates and kuffar.

Same story world over

Muslim girl takes on father over

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080062702

Voice of J&K

You might also want to discuss the Amarnath issue here. The MSM in India is portraying it as a Jammu vs Kashmir issue, rather than as a Hindu vs Mohammedan, in order to 'avoid giving it a communal tinge'. But Amarnath is not in Jammu, it's in Kashmir, and that's why there is the controversy that there is right now re: whether the forest area should be handed to the Amarnath Trust board or not. Since virtually all the Pundits have left Kashmir, if this call was left exclusively to Kashmiris on the basis of Amarnath's location, you'd have Mohammedans determining the administration of a Hindu shrine, and that's what's at issue here: no sane Hindu should find that acceptable. It's therefore left to Jammu to agitate to ensure that the Hindu shrine remains under Hindu jurisdiction, but reading the MSM there, one is left with the impression that Kashmiri Hindus are against the Amarnath board getting control, while Jammu Mohammedans are for it. I've not seen any evidence to that effect, other than Jammu Mohammedans claiming that the issue is not 'communal'.

VoJ&K

On your other story, I hope that Rubinisa remembers that Islam was the pretext that was used to try and prevent her from getting an education of the type she wanted, and that whenever she decides to marry, she avoids flushing all that down the drain by staying in Islam, and instead converts to and marries a Hindu. That way, she can preserve what she's gotten only because a non-shariah court intervened on her behalf.

VoJ&K

The cover page of JW has, under its links list, a list to Panun Kashmir, where the horrors perpetrated on Kashmiri Pundits has been well documented.

Infidel Pride.... converted thugs, thieves, rapists, terrorists, produce of weak wombs and week and deformed dicks, with deformed minds can only kill a life.

VoJ&K

While I recognize that potential converts could also be practicing taquiyya, slamming the door on Muslims who recognize the bankrupcy of Islam and want a way out, thereby potentially forcing them to stay jihadis whether they want to or not, is not doing our cause any good. Particularly when talking about converting Muslimahs, and preventing them from becoming tilths that produce more jihadis.

Reducing the pool of Muslimahs is the only humane way I can think of to prevent the % of Mohammedans in India from growing even further. And converting and marrying them to Infidels is the way to do it (sure, filter out the inbreds if you have to).

"Reducing the pool of Muslimahs is the only humane way I can think of to prevent the % of Mohammedans in India from growing even further. And converting and marrying them to Infidels is the way to do it (sure, filter out the inbreds if you have to).
Posted by: Infidel Pride"

You know that in this month itself, there have been two incidents in Bengal in which the Hindu grooms were burnt to death by their muslim in-laws ? Do you think that this is a solution ? Can a girl who has been brought up in a completely intolerant society adapt to live with human beings ? I agree with you that there are a certain percentage (2 % max) of muslim girls who actually finish college and have the freedom to travel unescorted to and forth to their school/college/univ. There were 3 girls in our schoolbus. They looked just like us, dressed just like us until they finished their schooling. Last year I met one of them, in a black body bag. Know what her occupation is ? Teaching urdu at a madrasa.

I wonder if the female engineering student is still a Muslima. She wears her scarf more like a dupatta than a hijab.

Obviously, the Muslimahs who convert would have to part ways with their Muslim relatives, just like Islam expects new converts to Islam to disown their infidel relatives. The cases you cite are those who didn't take precautions to ensure that their brides jettisoned their relatives.

Nonetheless, those tilths need to be conquered, and to ensure the safety of the infidel hubbies, all contacts with their Mohammedan relatives should be instantly severed. Just the flip side of what happens in Pakistan.

I was addressing arjun, just in case it wasn't obvious

It would be interesting to find out how many cases there are, of Muslim girls or women 'voting with their feet' and marrying a non-Muslim, either before or after they [the women] convert out of Islam to any one of the following: secularism, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, or Hinduism.

I suspect there are quite a few, in those places where it is possible for the couple to do a bunk and give the girl's family and the Muslim Mob the slip.

I have also heard of a number of cases in which the conversion of a Muslim woman to a non-Muslim faith happens after - and as a result of - the conversion of her husband, largely because of the remarkable transformation (i.e. dramatic improvement) in his conduct, as husband, toward her. Let's face it, if a woman's husband has been cruel, violent, selfish and indifferent, and then suddenly becomes genuinely loving, affectionate and considerate, that has *got* to make an impression!

Kafir societies and lawmakers should be on the alert to make sure that all who do genuinely defect from Islam are welcomed and incorporated, and then given help with 'cult deprogramming'. Those who have genuinely defected and are not 'faking it' would be the first to understand the fears of the kafir, and be willing to submit to regular checks and questioning.

Voice Of Jammu & Kashmir: I am not in J&K, but as I can glean from news reports, the green slimes in Kashmir are both pissed and baffled by the response of dhimmis in Jammu. The Hindus of Jammu, along with many Jammu Muslims and Sikhs, have finally stood up and said to Kashmir Muslim goons: enough is enough, we won't take crap any more. The Muslim cry babies never expected this from dhimmis and so this drives them insane. Please comment if you read this post.