And the radio station complies. There is perhaps no one person that "radicals" despise as much as Father Zakaria Botros. I first described him and his ministry here (be sure to click on links that go to important video clips of him, with English subtitles). The problem Muslims have with Botros is that they simply cannot refute his "rants" and "hate speech," for the simple reason that everything he says -- no matter how scandalizing for Islam -- is always based on Islamic sources. This article, for example, keeps demonizing Botros by suggesting that, out of the blue and with no evidence, Botros claims Muhammad had homosexual inclinations. Well, I just watched that show on the internet, and, even though his talk about Islam's prophet was scandalous, it was also, nonetheless, totally derived from Islamic sources, particularly little known hadiths -- all of which were certainly at least suggestive of homosexual behavior. And at any rate, I have rarely seen Botros claim anything about Islam; he only raises questions, based on Islam's sources, and then invites Islam's ulema to respond and "clarify" the matter. However, as this report indicates, their response is only to have him censored. "Priest irks community with bizarre, offensive comments about Islam," by Khalil AlHajal for Arab American News, August 15:
Local religious leaders believe they've successfully convinced a local AM radio station to force a regular guest on one of its programs to tone down his intense, often strange commentaries critical of the Islamic faith.Awww, imagine that? It would take an infidel "ranting hate speech" to bring that group together.Egyptian Coptic priest Zakaria Botros, known around the world for his controversial theological rants about Islam, had been featured regularly for weeks on a Chaldean Christian programming broadcast by WNZK (690 AM), enraging many with frequent assertions that Islam's Prophet Mohammed, was, among other things, a homosexual.
Muslim leaders feared the weekly programs could cause tension between local Christian and Muslim communities, and sought out talks between interfaith leaders and the station owner about pressuring producers and the host of the show to keep the more radical commentaries off the air, said Ghalib Begg, Chair of the Council Of Islamic Organizations Of Michigan.
"It seems the hate speech has stopped," Begg said.
After hearing furious complaints about the program for weeks, a group of Sunni and Shia Imams gathered in an emergency meeting in Dearborn on July 28 to discuss the issue, deciding to pursue a resolution through interfaith representatives, Begg said.
"As much as this show was not a good thing, it brought the Imams together," he said.
The group continues to look to create positive outcomes from an ugly situation.I.e., kowtow to Islam.Begg said they are planning a meeting with station executives on Aug. 20 to work out a way to buy airtime for interfaith programming.
"Our objective now is to do something positive," he said.
Owner of the Southfield-based radio station, Sima Birach, confirmed that he is "working on this case," but did not comment further as of press time Thursday.[...]Well isn't this a contradiction, since the whole problem is that some Muslims insist on censoring Botros' "free speech"?"Father Zakaria is fueled by desperation, but no one should be condemned by other people's faith," he said. "Just leave him alone and he'll go away… There are fanatics among Christians. There are fanatics among Muslims. There are fanatics among Jews. If we pay attention to fanatics, we become fanatic… Don't forget we have freedom of speech here. No one can silence another by force."[...]
A second option the Imams first considered, he said, was to "bombard all the advertisers" supporting the program, putting real pressure on the producers with the threat of financial consequences.Goooood dhimmis.In the end the group decided to assemble a committee of interfaith representatives to express their concerns to the station in a way that would create relationships rather than burn bridges.
Begg said a diverse group of people that included Chaldeans participated in communicating their indignation Botros' most divisive commentaries, which at times included strangely detailed theories about the Prophet Mohammed's sexuality.[...]
Berry said he was impressed with the receptiveness of station owner Birach.
"He promised to make them stop defaming the Prophet," he said.
Berry and Begg said the Christian programs on the station, while still featuring theological discussions that might include criticisms of Islam, seem to have cut out the offensive, inflammatory elements, taking on a more respectful tone.
They said they would continue to monitor the shows, one of which airs every Wednesday from 3-5 p.m."And we would do the same thing if someone comes out demonizing Jesus or (denying) the Holocaust," said Begg.
If anyone can find scriptural evidence to "demonize" Jesus, by all means: do so. The problem, however, is one will be extremely hard pressed to find anything "ethically controversial" about Jesus in the whole of the New Testament -- regardless of what hacks like Morton Smith said.
Heh!
That ol' breast-feeding fatwa.
Honest, honey. We were just making sure nothing else would happen.
Dearbornstan. Ground zero for the Muslim/shariah infection, no surprise the meteorite worshipers are going nuts over him.
Botros was only telling the truth about the pederast, mass murderer and all around degenerate with a multiple personality disorder - Mohammed.
And Muslims should learn to shut up, they have nothing to be offended about. Its not our problem their founder was a murderous lunatic and pederast among many other things.
I love how they bring up Jesus. The Muslim Jesus is totally different than the Jesus of the NT and even the Gnostic gospels. The Muslim Jesus is there to buttress nasty Mo's argument that Christians got it all wrong.
It's wonderful to turn on Al-Hiyat TV here in Riyadh every evening and see Abuna (our father) Zakariya fearlessly and convincingly presenting the sordid side of the life of the Prophet. As with the story of Asma Bint Marwan, the poetess Muhammad had murdered in her bed because of a poem she wrote, most Muslims first acknowledge they never knew this information. Unfortunately, their second response is often to deny it, even though it is their own texts. Fortunately, more and more (just listen to the stories on Abuna Zakariya's show) are waking up and smelling the coffee.
"And we would do the same thing if someone comes out demonizing Jesus..."
You needn't bother, gentlemen. Jesus has been demonized and defamed since the day he was born. Christians have very finely-tuned "bull**** detectors", and we know what to ignore.
After hearing furious complaints about the program for weeks, a group of Sunni and Shia Imams gathered in an emergency meeting in Dearborn on July 28 to discuss the issue, deciding to pursue a resolution through interfaith representatives, Begg said.
The imams know who to go to when perpetuating their propaganda or crushing the truth about Islam: the spineless, clueless Interfaith whores. They have brothels in every American city but I bet the one in Dearborn, the citadel of Islamic sedition in America, ranks among the best. Let this Coptic hero take these imams on one on one to gasps and whines of their pathetic sheep, interfaithers.
If there is any dirt on Jesus, as a Christian, I'd like to know what it is. I've read the Jesus was gay stuff and it is gnostic non-sense made up by these kookie gnostic cultists.
As for Muslims, there is a pile of poop a mile high on Mohammad. There is very strong evidence that he was a pedophile and therefore it is not surprising that he may have practices homosexuality too.
Mohammad was an evil thief and highly sexed person. While Jews and Christians understand that God does not choose the perfect to be prophets, someone of such poor morals and character as Mohammad is reported in the major and minor hadith, there is no doubt in my mind that he is a false prophet.
If Muslims have any integrity, which few do, they would just answer the good priest's challenges. But they don't they try to hide the truth, especially the imams and mullahs. If Muslims need to hide the truth, their religion must not be true.
Mohammad had lots of wives, but only two children. And one was born to a slave with no waiting time between the relationship with him and her husband.
And lots of gay men father a child before they turn fully to homosexual relationships.
ALL those wives should have produced lots of children. Even Aisha had no child.
We are missing the duality of Islam. It is Halal for Moslems to know about the Prophets shortcomings, but it is Haram for kuffirs to bring their attention to it.
We (infidels, kuffirs, unbelievers) are not fit to be mentioned in the same sentence as Muslims. We are filth, offal, not human simply because we will not believe as Muslims do. It is all right to deceive us, lie to us and to deny the Holy Qur'an because the Truth is not as important as Islam.
Take a second to let that sink in.
If a Muslim can bring about an advantage to Islam by lying, in the eyes of other Muslims, he is not really lying. The contradictions in the Qur'an are valid since they are situational. It was okay for Allah to reveal that there "is no compulsion in religion" since Moslems were a minority at the time. When Moslems became the majority, they were strong enough to insist that others become Muslims or become dhimmis or die. Note the duality.
There is no "Truth" in Islam. There is only domination and submission.
tanstaafl, well said. I know one thing for certain, and I have said it before here, that lying to the infidel is always permissable in islam. That is why whenever I read of inter-faith dialogue etc., I know it to be a load of baloney.