Pakistan: five women buried alive for honor

Sharia Alert -- we are constantly told in the West that honor killing has nothing to do with Islam, but Muslims somehow seem to keep misunderstanding that.

I've said this before, and I will keep saying it:

A manual of Islamic law certified by Al-Azhar as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy says that "retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right." However, "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2).

In other words, someone who kills his child incurs no legal penalty under Islamic law.

Why does this stipulation appear in a manual of Islamic law if this has nothing to do with Islam?

"Five women buried alive in name of honour," from the PakTribune, August 25 (thanks to all who sent this in):

ISLAMABAD: Three teenage girls along with their two close elderly relatives were shot at before being buried alive in a desert of Balochistan by their tribesmen in the name of honour.

The shocking reports of this horrible incident reaching the capital from different quarters revealed that the girls studying in classes 10 to 12 intended to marry men of their choice through a civil court by defying the centuries-old tribal traditions. When the fuming elders of Umrani tribe came to know about the intentions of these girls to appear before a local court, they picked them up from their homes along with two of their elderly women relatives. The crying girls were pushed into official cars and driven to a deserted area. There they were pushed out of the cars, made to stand in a queue and volleys of shots fired at them.

As the bleeding girls fell on the sand, the tribesmen dragged them into a nearby ditch and levelled it with earth and stones before the girls could breathe their last. As the two shocked elderly women tried to rescue the hapless girls, they too were gunned down and buried in the same manner.

The killers after burying these women returned to their tribe like conquerors without any action against them. The step taken was to send a loud message to the rest of the tribe’s girls. Father of these girls lodged an FIR with the police against his own brother, who was said to be the architect of this crime. But after some family pressure, he withdrew the case and so the blood of those girls was forgiven in the name of centuries-old tradition, which does not allow any girl of the tribe to contract marriage of her choice.

Meanwhile, the Human Rights Watch has accused Abdul Sattar Umrani, the younger brother of PPP Housing Minister in Balochistan Government Mir Sadiq Umrani, of being directly responsible for this shocking act of barbarianism....

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Pakistan is descending into ever-worsening barbarism at an alarming rate. And to think, these knuckle dragging neanderthals have nukes.

And to think, these knuckle dragging neanderthals have nukes.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at August 29, 2008 6:40 AM

Yeah, how in the world did that happen?

When the Taliban finally takes over the entire country the change will be imperceptible.

Yeah, how in the world did that happen?

Posted by: darcy at August 29, 2008 7:45 AM


The same way, Al-Sauds and Islamic Republic of Pakistan ended up "allies" in the phony "war-on-terror", right after 9/11: http://www.cfr.org/publication/9514/
...along with wasting billions of tax-dollars: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/24/world/asia/24military.html

Go figure!

We really need to distance ourselves as far as possible from all koranimals. Electric or hydrogen cell cars,biofuels should do the trick. Coupled with no more immigration and a repatriation policy. I'll live without dates and a few nuts. Let them rot.

Mr. Spencer writes: "we are constantly told in the West that honor killing has nothing to do with Islam, but Muslims somehow seem to keep misunderstanding that."

Well put Mr. Spencer. Your observation appears equally applicable to terrorism itself. We are constantly told in the West that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam, but Muslims somehow seem to keep misunderstanding this as well.

Why DOES Umdat al-Salik stipulate no punishment for the parents for killing their children?

Doesn't Al-Azhar's "process" require at least some kind of connection back to the koran/hadith/sira before endorsing such a rule?

Allahu- Akbar!

How come you never hear about 'tribal' anything coming out of India? Pakistan was India not too long ago. It's like they chose to rocket themselves back to 1000 BC. And then kill 3 million Bengalis to bring them down to their level (That's Muslim 'success' - zero-sum annihilation, rather than actually WORKING to improve one's lot in life).

Oh, I forgot to mention, these poor mutilated girls (Pakis are Shafiis), per the 'centuries-old tribal tradition' more than likely would have been forced to marry their uncles. Ew.

Einzatsgruppen...

There is no bottom to the pit of Islamic depravity.
Every horrific deed is topped (bottomed) by the next, 'gruesome murder glorified', is Islam's middle name. It's last name is Mohammad, it's first name Allah. The last thing it is , is 'honorable'.
No remorse...the hallmark of the psychopath...
This is what Islam produces, this is what Islam shows us. Depravity in action. And this incident is not the first, there have been millions since the 600's. A continuous line of depraved actions, some known many unknown, continuing to this very day.
These girls are just the latest human sacrifices made to Allah...There will be more...the beast is always hungry...

And these people would rule the world...

Where is the outcry from feminist groups?

Feminists for Pakistan? We're trying to stop the Talibanification. And these wackjobs.

Shot and buried alive is barbaric by any standard. Public opinion must pressure the Pakistani government to punish the perpetrators. If the government will not act, then it will be time to boycott products of Pakistan until justice is served in this matter. We can send a much stronger message to this tribe than they ever could send to their women. Such atrocities must not be tolerated.

Shot and buried alive is barbaric by any standard. Public opinion must pressure the Pakistani government to punish the perpetrators. If the government will not act, then it will be time to boycott products of Pakistan until justice is served in this matter. We can send a much stronger message to this tribe than they ever could send to their women. Such atrocities must not be tolerated.

"As the two shocked elderly women tried to rescue the hapless girls, they too were gunned down and buried in the same manner."

Carefully note that their attempted intervention was in spite of Islam, not because of it. These women had courage, the father of these girls is morally bankrupt.

When will we see a law that targets "honor killings" in this country?

I wonder what those Muslim women thought about their religion as they were being buried...oh, they most surely said Allllahhhhh Akkkkbarrrr..







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