Pakistani villagers rise up against Taliban

Fighting and resisting violent Islamists is the only way to slow them down...even if you share the same religion they do...Maybe these villagers are just tired of all the insane BS the Taliban dishes out every time they show up...I know I would be..

I wanted to visit Pakistan at one time, even though I am a British Muslim, but since they are blowing each other up, I've had second thoughts.

A Muslim should never kill another fellow Muslim unless he has broken the Law. Even then, it's a matter for the courts to deal with.

I don't understand things enough to comment further on sectarian violence, or the Taliban, but I'd like comments and enlightenment on how, and why there are so many sects (when there is only one true path) and what justification they have of blowing each other up.

Habib,

You'd better ask an imam.

http://islam.tc/ask-imam/index.php

ImNoDhimmi

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No answer.

Surely someone can summarily explain it in a brief sentence?

Dear Habib,
as a white non muslim, I have been too Pakistan, been there, done it, got the T Shirt, sort of thing. I wouldn't really recommend it, bit grotty to put it bluntly, especially the cities. There is some beautiful country in the North. But then there are just as beautiful views in other parts of the world and it is not quiet so dangerous. I think it is due to the fact, that they have less religious fanatics.

Now this bit of your comment had me worried :-

A Muslim should never kill another fellow Muslim unless he has broken the Law. Even then, it's a matter for the courts to deal with.

What I really want to know is, is it alright then for Muslims to kill Kuffars and would the courts matter?

"In some parts of the North West Frontier Province (NWFP), people are enlisting in anti-Taliban squads to take on the extremists who are blamed for a spate of abductions and arson attacks on girls’ schools, rural clinics and cyber cafes.

Same as Iraq. The villagers didn't mind the killers in their midst as long as they were attacking someone else. Once the villagers' own families and facilities were targeted, they fought back. They refused to go against the Taliban until then. This suggests that we are going to have to wait for every Muslim village to be attacked before its people get serious about fighting extremism. Should take a few millenia.

Will anti-Taliban squads mean some people will stop supporting Mullah Omar and Osama and company and will either kill them or turn them in for the reward money? Seeing is believing.

Dear Holger

Thank you for your comments regarding Pakistan.

As I am unqualified to answer your question, I would have a stab in the dark and assume that there is some regulation via Sharia law --the diktat that all Muslims must adhere to. It would, however be concerning Dhimmi's and Dhimmitude, which would suggest some kind of repression against that person, or body of people.

If only villagers everywhere in the world were able to respond to Islamic marauders with a similar hail of gunfire it might mean a lot fewer attacks. I'm thinking of the Philippines, Thailand, Nigeria, and the Sudan.

The Taliban may be religious gangsters, but they are still gangsters. People get sick of gangsters, and after a while do something about them.
Follywood has made numerous movies with that theme.

Habib, you might find the kind of information you are looking for at FaithFreedom.org. While it is an apostate site, it is run by former Muslims who are quite knowledgeable about Islam to give you the kind of honesty that you won't find among sites like ask an imam. You sound like many Muslims who don't know enough about their religion to be able to explain things completely. Certainly there are Christians who may have been born into the credo without actually knowing much about their faith other than their parents were Catholic or Lutheran.

Mr Habib,
Do u want to know the status of dhimmis or non-believers of islam in pakistan?
Allah says in the Quran that unbelievers are worse than animals [Q 24:44]. That indeed is their status in Pakistan. It is better to be an animal than a dhimmi unbeliever because animals enjoys better rights of freedom of speech, freedom to move, freedom of living and freedom of seeking their livelihood. Muslims called their pets and tame animals with better names and worth than the wicked non-believers living in Islamic land of the pure.
Please read the full article here

http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/Dhimmis-Christians-in-Pakistan-Worse-than-Animals.htm

All the articles tell u what the islamic cult is, its a murderous cult in guise of religion.Leave this cult and be a happier human being.

"I wanted to visit Pakistan at one time, even though I am a British Muslim, but since they are blowing each other up, I've had second thoughts.

A Muslim should never kill another fellow Muslim unless he has broken the Law. Even then, it's a matter for the courts to deal with."
-- a comment by a Muslim poster above

This comment has already attracted the attention of others, who have asked the poster to explain what he meant by writing "A Muslim shoudl never kill another fellow Muslim." They were hoping, though not expecting, that the poster, the amiable "Habib," who is apparently a Pakistani Muslim living in Great Britain (and who may even have managed to acquire Britishcitizenship), whether it would be right for Infidels to infer from what he implies that it is quite alright for Muslims to kill Infidels.

"Holger Dansker" asks him point-blank: "What I really want to know is, is it alright then for Muslims to kill Kuffars and would the courts matter?"

And here is how Habib, a Pakistani Muslim living in Great Britain (and who may, as I noted, even have managed to acquire British citizenship), answers him:

"As I am unqualified to answer your question, I would have a stab in the dark and assume that there is some regulation via Sharia law --the diktat that all Muslims must adhere to. It would, however be concerning Dhimmi's and Dhimmitude, which would suggest some kind of repression against that person, or body of people.

Not exactly an answer to relieve an Infidel's worry, is it? Merely a vague and bland "stab in the dark" that three must be some "regulation via Sharia law" then called a "diktat that all Muslims must adhere to." But, Habib says in justification or mitigation, of course this would apply only to Dhimmis, that is those non-Muslims who are already under Muslim domination, rather than to non-Muslims who, because they are not yet under Muslim domination, cannot be treated in quite the same way.

Yet.

Hugh, thank you for your elucidation of Habib's answer as it relates to dhimmis, non-moslems under sharia, and non-moslems not under sharia. As you've pointed out there is a difference as to how they are to treated and I had missed the implication of his answer.

HABIB: "I'd like comments and enlightenment on how, and why there are so many sects (when there is only one true path) and what justification they have of blowing each other up."

RESPONSE: That's easy Habib my boy. The answer:

Despite what you've been brought up to believe, Islam - like every other religion - is a man-made construct. As such, it is prone to errors far and wide. Hence, all the confusion about its message.

""As I am unqualified to answer your question, I would have a stab in the dark "

That's the difference between the moderate Muslim and the red-blooded Muslim: the moderate Muslim will kill you with a stab in the dark, the redblooded Muslim in the light of day.

Habib,

You seem like an honest person (from your words above). If you see Islam bashing here it is not because people here are bad. People here are awakened (enlightened) to what Islam is doing world wide and no one is stopping them. It is very frustrating to see how much Islam gets away with.

You do not see any sectarian fighting not involving Muslims, no where in this world. The Muslim land has become irreversibly "Dar Al Suicide Bombing". The only bombing we see outside Dar Al Suicide Bombing is always linked to Muslims. Read the news papers, watch any news TV including Al Jazeera, you will come to the same conclusion.

May I offer you a frank advice? Consider renouncing Islam and if you do you must cleanse your self completely and even change your name if it is an obvious Muslim name i.e. Muhammad, Ali or Hassan, etc… chose a mew religion if you must otherwise it is OK to be an atheist – this is one life to live, there could not be an after life for hundreds of billions of people (if there were it would be hell by definition). Now why do you need to change your name? Because if you do not, your kids and grand kids will consider themselves Muslims – sooner or later they would attend Mosques that would indoctrinate them to carry Jihad against Infidels. So even if you think you are a moderate Muslim by not renouncing Islam you could be contributing to future jihad as much as an extremist would since your children or grand children may become suicide bombs (they will be taught to be proud to be martyrs). I honestly hope that you are open-minded and you would consider my advice.