Cologne mayor on Anti-Islamization Conference: "We're here to show racism the red card"

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Cologne, Nazi-free city, says yes to Islamization

The anti-Islamization conference in Cologne that I wrote about here has been effectively thwarted by German authorities. They banned the conference and sent out the police, and then came a huge counter-demonstration, at which the photo above was taken.

The authorities and counter-protesters were focused on fighting "racism" and "Nazism," as the photo above shows. And as I explained here, there were legitimate questions about some of the participants -- although this story says that the most problematic figure, Jean-Marie LePen, who has been accused of antisemitism and Holocaust denial, never had plans to be there.

In any case, the "Nazism," if it was present among the anti-Islamization ralliers, was not of a very obvious kind: no brown shirts, no swastikas, no sieg heils, no goose-stepping hordes. Even if there were problems with some of the speakers, the issue is real -- and the speakers have a right to be heard if there is to be a free society in Cologne. Many Muslims, including the internationally renowned Sheikh Qaradawi, have stated openly their intention to Islamize Europe.

Moreover, Spiegel reported this in July about the group behind the Cologne mosque:

Even DITIB, the comparatively moderate organization behind the mosque project in Cologne, arouses mistrust. DITIB is the long arm of a religious institution in secular Turkey. "What will most likely happen," ask the residents of Cologne who take part in the protests, "if the feared Islamization of Turkey happens? Will DITIB bring it over here?"

Cologne's Archbishop Joachim Meisner is already warning people about of areas in Germany "where sharia law is increasingly spreading." In the case of DITIB, this warning might be premature or simply inaccurate. At the same time, however, the association is remotely controlled from Ankara and has a reputation for being more concerned with helping to maintain the identity of Turkish immigrants than with helping them integrate in their new homes.

Yet in Cologne the counter-protesters seemed to be equating opposition to Islamization with Nazism -- as the sign above shows. With signs such as "Temples, synagogues, churches and mosques -- everything's okay" and statements praising the city for standing up "to protect its Muslims," the city authorities and counter-protesters don't seem to have any awareness of the Islamization program, or how mosques have been used to foster jihadism and Islamic supremacism, or any understanding of the need to counter it. They just think of it as "racism," as if it is "racist" and "Nazi" to oppose the institutionalized discrimination against women and non-Muslims, stonings, amputations, the denial of freedom of speech and freedom of conscience, and all the other features of Islamic law.

Well, it isn't. If any of the anti-Islamization protesters in Cologne really were neo-Nazis, and at this point I have no way of finding out for sure, that would be unfortunate, but it doesn't make the problem of Islamization go away. In a sane and healthy Europe interested in protecting and preserving European civilization, the huge numbers of counter-protesters would actually have been protesting against Islamization, and the mainstream parties of Europe would have been represented at the rally. Anti-jihadists in Europe should work to avoid all taint of neofascism and race supremacism -- and this is particularly in Europe, where fascism and race supremacism led to the mass murder of millions within recent memory. But to label all and any opposition to Islamization as "Nazism" and "racism," as the Cologne authorities and counter-protesters seem to be doing, is simply a ticket to national and civilizational suicide. If anyone here is behaving like a fascist, it is not the anti-Islamization demonstrators, but the city authorities who are violently clamping down on debate and dissent.

Both terms -- Islam and Nazism -- are slippery. “Nazism” is because it is a term of abuse that is hurled at any conservative, and this makes it harder to recognize real Nazis when they come along. “Islam” is also confusing to many, because people assume one is speaking about Muslim individuals when one is speaking about the ideology, and the ideology is not known or held with equal awareness and fervor by everyone who calls himself a Muslim. The term also confuses people because it makes them assume that Islam can be understood and dealt with in exactly the same way and on the same terms as Christianity or Judaism or anything else that is classified as a "religion." But Islam is not simply a religion in those terms, as I have pointed out many, many times. It is a political and social system as well, and that political system ought to be subject to scrutiny, criticism, and rejection like any other. To say that to do so is inherently "racist" or "xenophobic" is to confuse the issue (and often those who do this do it willfully). There is nothing wrong with wanting to limit immigration -- particularly of those with an avowed goal of replacing one's society and culture with their own, rather than assimilating.

La Yijad en Eurabia (thanks to Paul) has an illuminating set of pictures establishing the strong pro-jihad, anti-Israel, hard-Left (hammer-and-sickle, Che Guevara, etc.) character of the groups protesting against the anti-Islamization group. Note also the Iranian dissidents, who were no doubt on the side of the anti-Islamization protesters.

"Germans Thwart Anti-Islam Rally," from IslamOnline, September 21:

COLOGNE, Germany — Tens of thousands of Germans took to the streets of the western city of Cologne on Saturday, September 20, to protest an anti-Islam conference of European far-rightists.

"We're here to show racism the red card," Cologne Mayor Fritz Schramma told the cheering crowd, reported Reuters.

He slammed the local far-right group Pro-Koeln, which is organizing an "Anti- Islamisation Congress," as "arsonists and racists" hiding under the cloak of a citizens' movement.

Carrying banners saying: "We are Cologne -- Get rid of the Nazis!," protesters gathered outside the city's cathedral to demonstrate against the congress.

Some of the protesters carried placards reading "Nazis out of Cologne" and "Temples, synagogues, churches and mosques -- everything's okay".

Most of the protests, called by trade unions, churches and anti-racist movements, saw thousands of students, families and local businessmen and women carry signs with slogans including "No to Racism" and "Cologne is rebelling!"

They disrupted the Pro-Koeln congress, ensuring less than 50 delegates were able to return to the meeting on Saturday morning.

The two-day congress, opened on Friday, brought together 150 far-right politicians and publicists from across Europe to protest Muslim presence in Europe.

Victory

Around 150 bars in Cologne stopped selling Pro-Koeln members the local Kolsch beer.

Many taxi and bus drivers were refusing to transport delegates to the congress.

One hotel even cancelled bookings made by "undesirables."

"Racists and extremists aren't welcome," stressed Mayor Schramma.

A far-right rally to protest the construction of a mosque in Cologne was also cancelled by police Saturday after clashes with opponents.

"The rally has been cancelled," said a police spokesman.

Police said 40,000 people protested against the rally, which had been expected to attract 1,500 people but only dozens showed up.

Many protestors cheered the rally ban.

"It's a victory for the city of Cologne and a victory by the democratic forces in this city," Mayor Schramma told the DPA news agency.

On Friday, several hundred opponents of the congress formed a human chain around a mosque in solidarity with the Muslim minority.

Though Islam is Europe's second religion, European Muslims are facing campaigns from far-right groups to have stately mosques on claims that they are signs of the "Islamization" of Europe.

Armin Laschet, minister for minorities in North Rhine-Westphalia state, told the Tagesspiegel newspaper it was the first time an entire German city "stood up to protect its Muslims."...

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The naive will inherit [six feet of] the Earth.

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But it's okay for Muslims to demonstrate and hold placards that read "Death to America" and "London, your 9/11 is coming". Go figure.

" 'It's a victory for the city of Cologne and a victory by the democratic forces in this city,' Mayor Schramma told the DPA news agency."

Let us know who you think took victory Mr. Mayor in say, 20 years?

All those 'hoodies' in black just ooze fascism. Morons.

These protestors might want to join some similiar groups:
Jews for Hitler
Turkeys for Thanksgiving

Thank you Robert for posting this, I was getting worried there for a minute.

What we are witnessing here is the crystallization of the EUrabian project. Marxist-Islamists are able to crush dissent to the islamification of the EU with the active collusion of the police.

This is a grim milestone to have reached, some have been surprised how quickly we got here, sadly I am not. Things will only get worse, the precedent has been set. Fjordman published an essay recently on the need for those that oppose the EUrabian project to prepare to arm themselves both mentally and physically. His words could prove prophetic.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/07/civil-war-in-sweden.html

I have been in a conversation with some second generation Muslims of Egyptian origin on another forum. I can not get anyone to admit that the Orthodox interpretation of Islamic scripture and tradition in Egypt, which establishes an apartheid state with the Copts, is an extremist concept. Muslims call me a religious supremacist for binging it up. The leftists on the site frequently harass me as being racist. I stand my ground, and politely point out the scripture, and traditions used to support said discrimination. To this point it appears to be a fruitless battle. How can you even talk with these people they are just so Bizarro World. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_World

Look at these pathetic protesters, they dont know but they are ones heading for trains to be slaughtered by islamists.

They're anti-Nazi and anti-fascist, that's why they beat up the Jooozzz...right?

What? Is there something wrong with that sentence?

I'm sooo confused!

http://sheikyermami.com/2008/09/21/jewish-member-of-pro-cologne-beaten-up-by-pro-islam-thugs/

So some Germans, citizens of a country that within living memory murdered six million Jews for being Jews, and murdered or caused the deaths, of tens of millions of others, are going to prove just how "anti-Nazi" and "anti-totalitarian" they are by standing up for Islam, by making Germany -- and if today Germany, then tomorrow the world!, or at least Europa, jawohl! -- safe for the Total Belief-System of Islam, itself totalitarian (or as the French scholar Charles-Emmanuel Bousquet described it, "doubly totalitarian), and itself, Islam and its adherents, jointly holding at present the world title for Antisemitism, an event that never goes out of fashion and in which the Germans set memorable world-records in the last century that will be hard for Muslims in the Middle East, and in Europe, to beat. But it won't be for want of trying.

How proud those left-wing "anti-Nazis," as they fondly describe themselves, work hand-in-glove with the latest avatars of the Nazis, those who mightily approve, even as they sometimes deny, the "project" of Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Streigher, and a supporting cast of millions, no doubt including a good many relatives of those Germans who stood up for the mosque in Cologne, and all the other mosques now being built, as if that made up somehow, for all the synagogues that were burned to the ground.

No. This won't do. This won't fool anyone who knows the history of Germany, and of World War II, and of Islam, about who are the most dangerous carriers of antisemitism in Europe, both Europeans, and those whom they have welcomed into their uncomprehending midst.

“Islam” is also confusing to many, because people assume one is speaking about Muslim individuals when one is speaking about the ideology, and the ideology is not known or held with equal awareness and fervor by everyone who calls himself a Muslim.
What if people assume that when one is discussing Islam, one is talking about the ummah at large - the majority, or at least the outspoken but uncontradicted (by fellow Mohammedan) minority? Granted that on a purely semantic basis, that would be wrong, but on a perception basis, that's what is likely to be not only the assumption, but also the underlying message.

Much as your work may focus on what Islam and the Sunnah explicitly state, or how they are interpreted by mainstream Islamic theologians, everyone knows that the conference in Köln wasn't there to discuss Islamic theology, or whether Islamic teachings were themselves in contrast to rights and protections as Europeans understand them: they were there to discuss the repercussions and consequences of Islamization - something that would have been unthinkable had it not been for the fact that a record number of Mohammedans now live in Europe - be it due to immigration, dawa or foetal machines.

Point is - Islam hasn't arrived, and shariah isn't threatening to arrive in Europe in a vacuum: these possibilities are there for one reason and one reason only: Mohammedans. Outer Mongolia, which is only 2% Islamic and doesn't have Mohammedan immigration, doesn't have this problem, and there aren't Mongols discussing what to do about Islamization. Granted that you endorse the rights of Europeans to want to limit immigration - 'particularly of those with an avowed goal of replacing one's society and culture with their own, rather than assimilating.' Guess what - the latter clause is descriptive of Mohammedans, and none other than Mohammedans. In short - the only people worried about Islamization are those who face an increasing number of Mohammedans in their society.

I understand that you don't want to appear bigoted, but trying to de-couple opposition to Islam from opposition to Mohammedans is as futile as trying to de-couple Islamic supremacy from Islam.

Aside from being downright misleading.

I guess the en vogue thing to do is hate America I guess thats why you can hold all those signs about 9/11. It is always easier to blame your problems on someone else. The Germans are so ashamed of their past and what they had done to the Jews that they have become to politically correct within their boundaries, this is why IMHO the muslims will be running Germany in no time at all. Gone are the days of Germanys great, strong, national identity. Good bye kameraden, hello arkadaş.

If they had held their conference and rally we might have been able to decide if these were a bunch of fascists or not, or decided if this group had anything worthwhile to say.

I read a saying once that Fascism will creep back disguised as anti-fascism. The actions of this mob and their authoritarian bend seems to confirm this.

Infidel Pride:


You take me to task for making a distinction between Islam and Muslims -- a real and legitimate distinction, one that I stand by.

Then you say:

In short - the only people worried about Islamization are those who face an increasing number of Mohammedans in their society.

I understand that you don't want to appear bigoted, but trying to de-couple opposition to Islam from opposition to Mohammedans is as futile as trying to de-couple Islamic supremacy from Islam.

Aside from being downright misleading.

I get the impression that you quit reading my post when you got to the part you didn't like. You should have kept reading, instead of quitting there. A bit later on I said, "There is nothing wrong with wanting to limit immigration -- particularly of those with an avowed goal of replacing one's society and culture with their own, rather than assimilating."

Accuracy is good, and to be striven for.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Regardless how well your intentions are, if you align yourself with fascists, you get treated like fascists.

How long will Western Civilization keep up this "whip me, beat me, debase me; I know I've been bad, spank me again" mindset?

Isn't it time to let go of the "guilt" of having colonized foreign lands 300 years ago and brought --if only temporarily-- civilization, rule-of-law, and some inkling that "stuff under the ground can be valuable" to people who were nomads and herders up to that point?

There are, apparently, citizens of our own countries who think "it's only fair" to sacrifice their lives, their property, their families, (heck, ALL our lives and property, ALL of the accomplishments and benefits of the West) to expiate "our collective sin" of making savages feel bad because their cultures are incapable of producing anything but poverty and frustration and corruption.

How did this bunch of dunder-clucks come to have any influence over our politicians? How can the dunder-cluck politicians NOT SEE that they are murdering our culture, our society, our way of life? What can these fools possibly think they are leaving for their children? I just cannot wrap my mind around this....

I hope the citizens of Koln get what they want. They deserve it.

Germans, understandably, have a big guilt complex. Thus Germans have to show tolerance to even the most fanatic ideology or Muslim, just to show that they are not reverting to the old days.

Its a shame really. I would have thought, some 60 years after WWII, and the evidence of the true nature of Islam, Germans would have made an exception for tolerance to this murderous cult of Islam.

Germans shoud realise that Islam as a totalitarian ideology, is far more dangerous, as it believes that its dogma comes from allah.

Islam IS Naziism, you imbecile Cologne mayor!

I must remember to go visit Köln cathedral and the Wallraf-Richartz fine art museum while they are still there.

Robert

Have it your way, but if you re-read what I had written, you'll find that I did cite the statement you just repeated, namely

Granted that you endorse the rights of Europeans to want to limit immigration - 'particularly of those with an avowed goal of replacing one's society and culture with their own, rather than assimilating.' Guess what - the latter clause is descriptive of Mohammedans, and none other than Mohammedans.
Do I also convey the impression that I cite statements I either don't read nor don't comprehend, while putting together my views? Particularly when it comes to rebutting or refuting someone who puts together ironclad arguments such as yourself that would shred most arguments to... shreds?

Cordially

Infidel Pride

Infidel Pride:

Mea culpa. You did cite it. So I am guilty of just what I accused you of.

But really -- when you say "Guess what - the latter clause is descriptive of Mohammedans, and none other than Mohammedans," do you really think I am not talking about them, or talking about someone else?

Be serious.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

People:

Rate your performance of Cologne Mayor Fritz Schramma:


http://www.citymayors.com/mayor_monitor/cologne-schramma.html

Look at these pathetic Protesters, they don't know but they are the one's heading for trains to be slaughtered by Islamists.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at September 21, 2008 3:17 PM

So right. Irony.

"Irony, irony, all is irony."

Gates of Vienna have just posted a few more eye witness accounts from those trying to attend the demo.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/09/post-mortem-on-cologne-part-1.html#readfurther

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/09/post-mortem-on-cologne-part-2.html#readfurther

The brazenness of the Antifas and the attitude of the police is to say the least astonishing.

Darcy: Thanks for that link. I rated him....yes you guessed it...1 for very poor and a comment objecting to his support for Islamic totalitarianism.

Robert

First of all, thanks for recognizing that your point was acknowledged.

But really -- when you say "Guess what - the latter clause is descriptive of Mohammedans, and none other than Mohammedans," do you really think I am not talking about them, or talking about someone else?
That was my very point. Here you are, implicitly acknowledging that Mohammedans are a problem, but it seemingly contradicts the statement you made in the first paragraph, where you stated
“Islam” is also confusing to many, because people assume one is speaking about Muslim individuals when one is speaking about the ideology, and the ideology is not known or held with equal awareness and fervor by everyone who calls himself a Muslim.
While this may indeed be true (and I assume the reason why you stand by your distinction), what's the point in pointing this out, if at the end of the day, one has to concede that objections to the presence of Mohammedans is as legitimate as objections to the virulent teachings of Islam, thereby rendering this distinction semantic? It might have made sense had there been a real distinction between what Islam teaches vs what Mohammedans in these countries practice (like the Catholic Church vs the Catholic populace re: contraceptives). In other words, had the presence of all these Mohammedans tended to undermine the demands of Shariah, rather than underpin them, drawing such a distinction would have made sense. Here, in the context that Islam requires Shariah, and the increase in the number of Mohammedans increases rather than decreases the likelihood of Shariah, pointing out this distinction - accurate as it may be - is actually misleading.

(continuing my thought of "why the heck are elected Western governments behaving in ways OBVIOUSLY antithetical to maintaining the safety and social cohesiveness of their citizens")

I've read a couple of books regarding the EU in which it is proposed that the EU's long-term goal is to consolidate total power to itself --trade, financial, military, social-- while maintaining an absolute disconnect from the lives and concerns of the citizens it dominates. This organization is not elected, acknowledges no accountability to its subjects, and lacks any mechanism for pressure from its member nations to effect policy change. It looks a lot like the USSR writ large; yet it claims it exists to benefit all the citizens of Europe. (Yeah, sure, I bet.)

At any rate, the suggestion in those books is that the EU will seek to "earn legitimacy" by first destabilizing the societies of its member nations (encouraging massive immigration of third-worlders who simply CAN NOT ASSIMILATE), then when the major host countries are at the point of civil war, the EU will declare it necessary to create a large "peace-keeping" force to maintain order in the "restive" areas of Europe. The citizens will be delighted at the prospect of going shopping without being mugged. Voila! Your basic police state. The "peace-keepers" will never be able to withdraw, of course (think Iraq - when we increase our military presence, violence goes down; but once soldiers leave supposedly pacified areas the "sectarian strife" starts up again). While the police are keeping streets safe, they'll also be watching the citizens for any hints of "bad-think" or opposition to the Great State of EUrabia.

Whoever came up with the term "EUSSR" may well have been correct...

It's a tragegy LGF Charles Johnson and his lizard creatures talk, act and behave just like the Antifa, decrying neo-nazi-white supremists and freaking out over tiniest of symbols yet cannot something so outwardly obvious.

I don't church however I must say that the level of hatred towards 'right-wing Christian' is really getting to be nasty and vile.

Sandra Bernhard, Bill Maher, Naomi Klein among many; it's fair to say that Jews are no longer the most persecuted people in the world, they're actually involved in the persecution.

Actually, Syn, I've gotten a great deal of support from my Jewish friends, and don't feel the least bit persecuted by them.

And since when were the Nazis "Christian"? (Try googling Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Also, take a look at the book, "Liberal Facism.")

Hope this idiot myor likes burkas and halal food!
Perhaps he will ensure footbaths throughout his fine city, or used to be fine city, due to muslim influences that are on the march in Europe. The left and politically correct can be so blind in their rantings to stomp out bigotry,hatred and
replace it with something so similar, just under the disguise of the left. Germany has a bad hangover from WWII and the holocaust as they should BUT they do not need to roll over and play dead to islam. It already maybe too late.

I looked up the Cologne newspaper (in English), and saw this that Dhimmi Mayor Schramma had to say:

"Schramma described those who bent on holding the far-right rally as "racists in bourgeois dress" and "the moldy clique of Euro-Fascism," adding: "I say, there is the door. Go home!"

Mayor Schramma - you're an imbecile.

You SHOULD be holding the door for the Islamic Barbarians and saying "Go Home" (to your Islamic countries of origin) to THEM.

You total imbecile. You are a contributor to the eventual (won't be long) downfall of Western Europe. You DUMMKOPF! Utter and complete DUMMKOPF!

Darcy: Thanks for that link. I rated him....yes you guessed it...1 for very poor and a comment objecting to his support for Islamic totalitarianism.

Posted by: johndoe at September 21, 2008 5:12 PM

You're welcome. You shoulda seen my comment.

Dummkopf. Total and complete Dummkopf.

There's only one thing for it.

The anti-Islamisation group will have to have meetings in Israel from now on.

These Germans are following the Nazi path in spirit just like their forefathers.

They hate Jews. *check*

They are allies with the Muslims. *check*

Holy Deja Vu batman, this sounds just like pre WW2...except where is their Hitler???

Or should I say Mahdi.

Message for Sheik yermami - the links to your website are not working either from this page or from google search . . .link opens to strange error message page instead stating in bold 24 point font:

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I think the only tragedy about Charles and LGF is the acrimony that has arisen over the issue. Some of the items Charles found about Filip Dewinter bother me. It is a shame bloggers could not discuss the pros and cons of Dewinter without name calling.

Two things on the left which are unassailable: The right 'to choose' (kill unborn babies, or in some circumstances allow unwanted ones to die), and this deification of anti-racism. While I am against racism, I also realize that it's not the greatest crime in the history of mankind, nor do I let a true 'phobia' of it blind me. Real racism is to it's own degree wrong, but this racism-phobia is one of if not the greatest tool being used by the left to destroy our enlightened western culture.

The Mayor and his henchmen, the entire city even, may have been zapped by a Tesla Howitzer, Scalar weapon technology known as a mind snapper...Google scalar weapons...interesting and scary.
I read where Al-Qaeda is interested in scalar technology...

The minds of these people certainly seem to have snapped as though an external force is controlling them. It could be Allah, but I doubt it. Allah did not depend on Tesla for mind control, he had Mohammad and his henchmen write the the book on that one, it's called the Quran.
Besides if it was Allah controlling the mind zapper, the whole city would be at the mosque doing the Shahada tango.

Headline: 'Entire German city converts to Islam'...Only a Tesla Howitzer could cause that...

Cologne, the Sharia-Nazis are already living amongst you. Watch those mosque minarets grow over you, their totalitarian anti-freedom political ideology to dominate your multiculturalist society, and not be dominated. Don't like your freedoms? Wishing for a totalitarian state again? Enjoy Sharia-Nazi slavery. Have fun with your pet Cult of Allah. But watch its teeth, it bites.

It looks as though the Islamics' world wide whining campaign has worked. There is a sentiment of "death to Amerika" in Germany and in other European cultures; another poster above (I'm sorry - I'm not sure which one) pointed out that "death to America" signs are allowed in ANY rally. Is this because the jihadists have been able to portray themselves as the "innocent" underdogs, the most unfortunate, weak and bullied ones in the war on terror? I don't know. I don't know if I'll ever understand Europe's mindset, but then they were hard to read before WWII too, sitting around with their cafe au lait and schnitzle while Poland, Lithuania, and millions of Jews and Gypsies got stomped. Go figure.

What a case of the kettle calling the pot black! The crowd pictures appeared predominantly Muslim. But the German leftists calling the Pro-Cologne group Nazis? Don’t they know their own nation's history in which Hitler recruited Bosnian Muslims into SS Divisions to do his dirty work? Or of Hitler's alliance with the Mufti of Jerusalem?

A rhetorical question; of course they do. And the Commies themselves were allied with Hitler up until he became president thinking they could overthrow him. They never gave up on their ultimate objective of destroying Western Civilization (and neither has the Kremlin). Since destruction of Western Civilization is also the goal of Islam, this coincidence of goals has resulted in a squaring of the forces of evil against Western Civilization, Christianity, and Judaism.

Dhimmi mayors and councils that do not understand the enemy in their cities throughout Europe should be voted out as soon as possible, and the Islamofascist-Communist Alliance should be recognized for the axis of evil that it is.

'Nazi-frei' is code-speak for 'Judenrein'.

Do they know their own nation's history in which Hitler recruited Bosnian Muslims into SS Divisions to do his dirty work? Or of Hitler's alliance with the Mufti of Jerusalem?

Do they know their history? No, Jimmi Bones, they don't. I grew up there, and I learned a lot of history. But that history stopped dead in the tracks right before Hitlers third Reich. And the last 2 generations don't even learn anything about the crusades or about the Magna Carta anymore. The universities, like everywhere, are now more extreme left than ever.

A nightmarish scenario: commies, anarcho's, ferals, far left loons, do-gooders from church-groups to conservatives, the Greens (of course!) along with milkmaids and housewives, join neo-nazi groups to 'protect Muslims' and bash the Jews in the process.

A fiasco on a grand scale.

Les’see,

In the early part of the 20th Century, the German people denied individual liberty and marched in lockstep with the Kaiser for what they perceived as the “greater good of Germany”.

At great cost in treasure and blood, unsophisticated American boys rescued them from their folly.

Toward the middle of the 20th Century, the German people denied individual liberty and marched in lockstep with the Nazis for what they perceived as the “greater good of Germany”.

At great cost in treasure and blood, unsophisticated American boys rescued them from their folly.

In the early part of the 21st Century, the German people denied individual liberty and marched in lockstep with the Islamists for what they perceived as the “greater good of Germany”.

Question: Why does this behavior continue to surprise us?

You hate nazis? No, you're protecting them!

What a mess...

My opinion is this:

Use of intimidation, threats and violence for political purposes is wrong. Period.

That should cover fascism, bolschevism, Nazism and Islamism all in one.

We expect police and authorities to protect us against such violence, no matter what excuses the violent have. It is not working too well in Germany these days, just as was the case in the 30's. This is a battle lost for democracy, as expressing opinions dissenting from the Antifa elite will now be considered dangerous, and the 'Marketplace of ideas' will suffer a decline in diversity.

I'm pretty sure the Antifa thugs are feeling great over this, and encouraged to proceed in the same style :(

Are the hard left and liberal defined the same? They go together right? I mean same ideas and opinions.
Hitler took the side of the Grand Mufti of Palestine. Was he also a far left and liberal? So we must redefine Nazism as a far left group with Islamic Muslims? Please help me out here, I am lost. Never mind, I did a search.

Liberal
• broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant ...
• having political or social views favouring reform and progress
• tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition
• a person who favours a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties
• a person who favours an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets

far left - radical or extremely liberal
left - of or belonging to the political or intellectual left

wiki
In several countries, the term far left has been associated with ideologies such as communism, socialism, anarchism, social anarchism, anarchist communism, left communism, anarcho-syndicalism, Marxist-Leninism, Trotskyism, Maoism, and some branches of feminism and green politics\environmentalism.

Well there you go.

BTW, I am still confused.

"Racists and extremists aren't welcome," stressed Mayor Schramma.

WTF? I'd say the racists and extremists are the islamists, not the people who are trying to expose them for what they are. Germany is lost, and the rest of Europe follows after.

It just amuses me how wester media characterize the leftist scum as "antifascist groups", counter-demonstrating against "racism" (I didn't know Islam is a race?). On the contrary, anti-islamization protesters are called "nazis" or "far-right groups", what a lie... Even the cologne mayor supported the leftist scum, and calling people to fight "racism", not knowing that there's no real difference between far-left and "far-right" (nazism), both have great sympathies for Islam and try to crush the Western civilization.

How long will the West ignore Islam's true nature, how long will people hear only that what they want to hear about Islam, ignoring the horrific facts about this ideology? I hope untill then it won't be too late for us...

No free speech for fascists, say fascists.

Truly shocking. And the German state is complicit in what happened. Is this the end of free speech in Germany?

"They want to kill and control the world subjugating us to their ways"

Who has invaded the most countries since 1950?
Who has military bases throughout the world, and whose warships sail in oceans 10000s of miles away from its borders?
Who has killed the most civilians and dropped the most bombs?
Who through threat of economic, and possibly military, reprisals ensures that all nations use the dollar as their reserve currency?
Who interferes in the politics of others, eg through regime change or political assassinations or sponsored coup

The best way to make people believe a lie is to keep saying it, and boy does that pig Bush and ugly Rice keep saying the same stuff as do all US politicians.

Also, why has the blessed Sheikh Osma Bin Ladens accusations against the USA never been refuted? Why are they ignored and instead lies are attributed to his motives?

If you was wrongly accused by an angry neighbour of stealing his sheep, exploiting his land and killing his children, you would directly refute his accusations by saying, for example,

"I was 200 miles away on the day his sheep got stolen".

If you was guilty you would sidestep his accusation and instead attribute another reason for his hatred to you, eg you would say "ahhh he is mad and angry because he hates my freedom."

You would say this despite the fact that your neighbor has given perfectly rational motives for his anger to you. And if you speak louder or say it enough times, peoples perception of you neigbour will be based on what you say not what he says.

jowhen you really suck and the Religion of peace sucks, watch these videos of the islamic barbarians at work. This is a evil that has to be destroyed and pretty fast. Islamic pigs have not stopped for 1400 years, killing, killing and more killing.

http://www.bigducky.com/videos/beheading_videos/index1.htm

"jowen" is a pig, and so ugly.

Islam sucks. Islam's sucked ever since Warlord Mo the false prophet conned his fellow pagan Barbarians with The Big Lie about "allah," an Arabian pagan moon deity that doesn't exist.

"Also, why has the blessed Sheikh Osma Bin Ladens accusations against the USA never been refuted? Why are they ignored and instead lies are attributed to his motives?"
Posted by: jowen

I sure hope Islamists and Moonbat dhimmis keep 'blessing' us with comments now and then like this...just to show how insane & dangerous Islam truly is. Good reminder this is a honorable movement to expose Islamic Jihad.

>>Truly shocking. And the German state is complicit in what happened. Is this the end of free speech in Germany?

jowen asks--"Who has invaded the most countries since 1950?" and other similarly misleading questions.

From the book "Culture and Conflict in the Middle East" by Philip Carl Salzman:

"Wherever one looks along the perimeter of Islam, Muslims have problems living peaceably with their neighbors."

"The overwhelming majority of fault line conflicts...have taken place along the boundary looping across Eurasia and Africa that separates Muslims from non-Muslims."

"...Intense antagonisms and violent conflicts are pervasive between local Muslim and non-Muslim peoples."

And here comes the stats:

"...Muslims make up about one-fifth of the world's population, but in the 1990s they have been far more involved in inter-group violence than the people of any other civilization. The evidence is overwhelming. There were, in short, three times as many inter-civilizational conflicts involving Muslims as there were between non-Muslim civilizations."

And this:

"...Muslim states also have had a high propensity to resort to violence in international crises, employing it to resolve 76 crises out of a total of 142 in which they were involved between 1928 and 1979...When they did use violence, Muslim states used high-intensity violence, resorting to full-scale war in 41 percent of the cases where violence was used and engaging in major clashes in another 39 percent of the cases."

And here's the comparison with the UK and USA:

"While Muslim states resorted to violence in 53.5 percent, violence was used the United Kingdom in only 1.5 percent, by the United States in 17.9 percent, and by the Soviet Union in 28.5 percent of the crises in which they were involved..."

"Muslim bellicosity and violence are late-twentieth-century facts which neither Muslims nor non-Muslims can deny."

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=CC3232FA-B5F4-4C4E-A050-73218C9473EB

Here's a good eyewitness account with excellent photos - Cologne

AnneCrockett said:
'Some of the items Charles found about Filip Dewinter bother me.'
They should bother you, Anne, because CJ gets his information from far-left extremists like EXPO and the AntiFa - the very same people using thuggery and violence in Cologne this weekend to trash democracy and free speech!

And did you notice the way he quickly removed Oriana Falacci's photo from LGF, because a group of Oriana's Italian friends and supporters gave Philip Dewinter an award for his brave stance against Islamization in Europe? It's hard to imagine anything more childishly spiteful than to 'unperson' a courageous (dead) woman because her friends - being on the spot and better informed - don't agree with his own woefully misinformed and clueless prejudices.

jowen - you are just the type of commenter this site needs to remain strong against Islam & Mohammad (blood be upon him). Thanks for instilling an even stronger resolve within me and others to fight this evil cancer on society. You are one sick, dude.

Be serious.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

No. This won't do. This won't fool anyone who knows the history of Germany, and of World War II, and of Islam, about who are the most dangerous carriers of antisemitism in Europe, both Europeans, and those whom they have welcomed into their uncomprehending midst.

Be serious you two both..you Robert and you to Hugh...
you sound like spoilt kids.


I hearby challenge Robert Spencer to come and live with me for one week.
I will put you both up with the best food and wine.
You can both wake up and walk around with me a s a guide and witness sharia law being practiced in a a western democracy first hand.

This is my challenge.

Please can you do some reportage.

Judging by the photos of the pro-Islam mob in Cologne it would appear that the "anti-fascists" are mostly young. Hardly a Muslim in sight.

Won't it be ridiculous if Europe is lost to Islam merely because a load of brainwashed and ignorant kids couldn't find anything constructive to do with their Saturdays?

Someone asked, "And did you notice the way he quickly removed Oriana Falacci's photo from LGF, because a group of Oriana's Italian friends and supporters gave Philip Dewinter an award for his brave stance against Islamization in Europe?"

I actually did not, and unless Charles drew attention to it, I cannot assume that is why the picture is gone. I have been wondering what happened to the Cox and Forkum graphic from the top of the page, but I notice whenever someone asks about it, he does not answer.

Where Charles gets his information does not matter. This is a classic ad hominem ("You cannot trust Mr. A because he is liberal/a neo-con/Catholic/gay/Zoroastrian/whatever, etc. etc."). If Mr. A has evidence, it is evidence.

I am agnostic on Philip DeWinter. If he came to greater power he might do great things, or he might cause bloody civil strife with his plan of Flanders secession and deportation of immigrants who will not assimilate. If I lived in Belgium I would have the ability to judge better. As it is I am willing to wait for more evidence.







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