Good thing that jihad business has blown over and Muslims are only fighting each other now, eh?
"Muslim immigrants attack three Jewish teens in Paris," from Haaretz, September 7 (thanks to all who sent this in):
Three Jewish teens were attacked by a group of Muslim African immigrants in Paris on Saturday evening, a French police spokeswoman said Sunday.The Jewish teens, ages 17 and 18, who have been identified as Dan Nebet, Kevin Bitan and David Boaziz, are leaders of the Bnei Akiva youth group in Paris' 19th District.
Thiery Nebet, Dan's father, told Haaretz over the phone that according to what his son had said, as they were walking down the street, "Four or five Arabs of African origin started to throw walnuts at Kevin. When he went up to them to ask them why they did it, they surrounded him and knocked him down. Kevin and David moved in and very quickly more Arabs joined in and started to beat the three with their fists and with chains."
The Jewish teens were hospitalized, one with a broken nose and jaw and all three with bruises, and filed a police report after their release. Police opened an investigation and are looking for the Muslim teenagers allegedly responsible for the attacks.
According to the chairman of the Jewish Students Union in France, Raphael Haddad, barrages of stones were thrown at the three teens during the attack. Haddad also said the incident occured on Petit Street in the 19th District, not far from where a 17-yea-ar-old Jewish youth was attacked and seriously injured by immigrants on June 21....
Once in a blue moon I read an article about the rise of anti-semitism in Europe. In none of those articles have I ever seen the problem linked in any way to the constantly growing muslim population.
Nothing to do with Islam, sure.
These Jews asked for it. How dare they walk around Paris streets on a Saturday night!
An account of this event also appeared in the Jerusalem Post this morning (when I say morning, I mean Australian time).
Here it is, for purposes of comparison with the Haaretz version.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1220788948621&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Sep 7, 2008 17:23 | Updated Sep 7, 2008 19:03
France: 3 Jews attacked by Muslim group
By TALIA DEKEL
'Three Jewish counselors from the Bnei Akiva youth movement were attacked not far from the organization's central branch in Paris on Saturday afternoon.
'The boys, aged between 17 and 18, had just finished the Sabbath minha prayer when they were attacked by a group of Muslims, the head of Bnei Akiva's French desk, Binyamin Tuati, told The Jerusalem Post on Sunday.
'According to a press statement released by World Bnei Akiva spokesman Tzvika Klein, the youths were initially approached by a group of three Muslim and African immigrants who began to hurl chestnuts in their direction.
'When one of the counselors complained, the assailants began yelling out anti-Semitic remarks.
'Between 10 to a dozen other attackers wearing knuckle dusters joined the original three and began beating up the Jewish group until police arrived at the scene.
'The youths, Dan Nebet, Kevin Bitan and David Buaziz, had all been released from hospital by Sunday afternoon and sported several wounds from their attack including a broken nose, a broken jaw and stitches.
'According to Tuati, the victims' families filed a complaint with local police that had responded by opening an investigation into the incident, which has already been recognized as an anti-Semitic attack by local authorities. So far, three suspects have been identified by police.
'The movement is now concerned over the fact that the incident occurred in an area central to the French capital's Bnei Akiva members at the 19th Quarter in Paris.
'The area, said Tuati, is close to a school and is visited by roughly 150 children every Shabbat.
'The incident marks the second anti-Semitic attack in the area of the Bnei Akiva branch in the last two months."
Note that the JPost account gives the approximate number of Muslims involved in the attack.
Note, from both reports, the modus operandi.
1. A smallish group engages in low-level physical and verbal provocation.
2. As soon as those attacked attempt to resist, the first group 'calls the swarm' and a mob assault ensues - an additional 'ten to a dozen' young Muslim men rush in to reinforce the original 'three' or 'four or five', so we have a scene in which between FIFTEEN and TWENTY Muslims - with 'chains' (ha-aretz) and 'knuckle-dusters' (J Post) - are beating up on THREE Jews.
Cowards. Disgusting, despicable, revolting cowards and dirty fighters. If the police catch these Muslim thugs - who, had the police not gotten there in time, might well have murdered all three Jews, and most likely fully intended murder - they should be publicly paraded after the trial and sentencing, and pelted with rotten eggs. Their 'home' mosque should be identified and closed down, permanently; they themselves, and their entire extended families, should be stripped of citizenship, if they have it, and deported from France to their families' country or countries of origin.
This should be Sarkozy's opportunity to come down upon the Mohammedans like a ton of bricks.
Word of advice to French Jews. 1. Firearms and regular target practice. 2. Everyone over ten, male and female, sign up at your nearest kickboxing/ tae kwon do/ judo/ karate/ kung fu/ krav maga establishment for regular, intensive training. Learn how to deal with an assailant who has a knife or a gun. Learn how to operate in small groups as well as alone.
If these three Jewish lads had had proper training, I think they might have held their own.
OT: Obama commits the ultimate slip of the tongue for us Jihad Watchers
Seriously, could he make a gaff like this if all that muslim background wasn't exerting some serious internal philosophical influence? Also note, Stephanopoulos caught the gaff before Obama did.
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http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/
Obama's verbal slip fuels his critics
Christina Bellantoni (Contact)
Sunday, September 7, 2008
ST. LOUIS, Mo. - Sen. Barack Obama's foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue, when the Democratic presidential nominee was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, "my Muslim faith."
The three words -- immediately corrected -- were during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim.
But illustrating the difficulty of preventing false rumors about his faith from spreading, anti-Obama groups within one hour of the interview had sliced it out of context and were sending it around via email. They also were blogging about it.
Mr. Obama, who is a Christian and often proudly speaks about how his faith has influenced his public service, said he finds it "deeply offensive" that there are efforts "coming out of the Republican camp to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith."
The exchange came after Mr. Obama said that Republicans are attempting to scare voters by suggesting he is not Christian, which McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said was "cynical."
Asked about it on ABC, Mr. Obama said, "These guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand."
"The McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections," said Mr. Stephanopoulos, who repeatedly interrupted Mr. Obama during the interview.
"I don't think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let's say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks," Mr Obama responded, and Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted: "But John McCain said that's wrong."
Mr. Obama noted that when Republican vice presidential nominee Gov. Sarah Palin "was forced" to talk about her pregnant 17-year-old daughter, he issued a forceful statement to reporters that the line of inquiry was "off limits." But he said the McCain campaign tried to tie him to "liberal blogs that support Obama" and are "attacking Governor Palin."
"Let's not play games," he said. "What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you're absolutely right that that has not come."
Mr. Stephanopoulos interrupted with, "Christian faith."
"My Christian faith," Mr. Obama said quickly. "Well, what I'm saying is that he hasn't suggested that I'm a Muslim. And I think that his campaign's upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith -- something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time."
Asked to comment on the accidental misstatement illustrating the difficulty of the issue, Obama spokesman Bill Burton offered this comment: "I'm not surprised that the only outlet doing this story is The Washington Times."
You can view the full context of Mr. Obama's comments on ABC here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I.
I followed the link and read the rest of the Ha-aretz article.
It notes that "according to the chairman of the Jewish Students Union in France, Raphael Haddad, barrages of stones were thrown at the three teens during the attack."
Furthermore, we learn that "The Jewish Agency's envoy in Paris, Rafi Zaush, told Army Radio that attacks in the 19th District are common but most incidents are less violent and therefore not reported by the media."
Hmmm. I wonder exactly how many incidents...and what counts as 'less violent'?
I hope *someone* is keeping track of what happens, what is said precisely, word for word, and of every occasion when a Muslim physically assaults a Jew in any way at all.
Mind-boggling statement here: "The French Ministry of the Interior confirmed that the attack was motivated by anti-Semitism, saying the incident ended with relatively little damage."
"Relatively little damage"??? - when the article has already told thus that "The Jewish teens were hospitalized, one with a broken nose and jaw "? A 'broken jaw' does not, in my book, constitute 'little damage'. The JPost report mentioned 'stitches'. 'Little damage'??
Perhaps what the Ministry of the Interior means by 'relatively little damage' is that three Jews, set upon by fifteen to twenty Muslim thugs with knuckle dusters, chains, hurled stones, feet and fists, were not actually murdered.
And then there's this:
http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2008/09/denmark-gang-demonstrations.html
You can bet "My Muslim faith" Obama would aid and abet such anti-semitism given his long term friendship with notorious anti-semites like Wright,Ayers and Khalidi, should he be elected.
As far as whats happening in France, the Jewish folk there need to arm themselves and practice regularly. So the next time a bunch of junior jihadists decide to attack them merely for being Jews, they can be sent to that celestial whorehouse they so love.
France has become too dangerous for Jews to live in, thanks to a moonbat immigration policy which has let in so many Islamonazis.
But lest people think it's just the Jews' problem, remember that the Middle East and countries such as Turkey used to be largely Christian, until just such persecution Islamicized the entire region. And it's still going on. You're next.
All anyone has to do is ask Obama if he believes that Allah is God, and Mohammad his messenger.
The answer to that, tells the story...
jewdog - yes, I know. 'First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people'.
Martha Gellhorn spoke to a Catholic priest in Israel in 1960 who had heard the local Arab Muslims saying exactly that:
"...he told me that the Arabs said, 'First we will finish with the Shabbaths, and then with the Sundays'. They never changed their ideas. They went around looking at the women and the houses they would take when they managed to get rid of the Jews and the Christians."
Where I live at the moment, there are very few Mohammedans and no visible Jewish presence (there are only three synagogues in my home city, none of them on my side of town). So the advice I'm about to give is not something that I am in a position to put into practice myself.
But if I were living where I used to live - with a Jewish synagogue a few blocks away, and Jewish graves, including that of one of Australia's first composers, in the nearby cemetery, and both Jewish students and Mohammedans on the nearby university campus which I used to walk through regularly - I would be on high alert all through Ramadan.
I urge those Gentile jihadwatchers who do have Jewish neighbours, friends, colleagues, classmates, teachers, students, doctors, lawyers... or who do live near to a Jewish school/ nursing home/ synagogue/ business or office premises/ cemetery, etc., or even within the neighbourhood of the Israeli consulate or embassy, to bear in mind that many Mohammedans HATE Jews and that during Ramadan that hate may be winding up to fever pitch.
Keep an eye open for anything 'weird' (e.g. someone who looks like they're 'casing out' the synagogue in your street); trust your instincts. And let that Jewish person, whom you know, know that you are on their side and that they can trust you; that you will be looking out for them.
If you are a pro-Jewish pro-Israel student or staff member at a university or high school that has both Jews and Mohammedans on campus, you and your friends might consider obtaining a Star of David and wearing it (perhaps as a brooch, if you are a Christian and normally wear a cross round your neck), as a visible sign of solidarity. The more of you do it together, the better.
And...chat with the Jewish person that you know; find out if they have read Bat Yeor and Dr Andrew Bostom's books; urge them to get and read "The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism".
(Meanwhile, my fellow Christians, for the good of your souls, and to understand why many Jewish people will be wary and prickly and will find it hard to trust you - you will have to *earn* their trust - should read James Parkes, 'The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue' and Malcolm Hay, 'The Foot of Pride' (also called 'Europe and the Jews'.)
And, my fellow Christians, I beg you, pray - pray for the protection of Israel, pray for the protection of Jews worldwide, during this period when hate levels will be particularly high within the Islamosphere.
What are these savages doing in my beautiful Paris?
Nothing will come of this "investigation." For fear of Muslim car-swarms and street-frenzies, Paris police no longer even step foot into the banlieues. Of course, that's where the Muslim "community" is Ramadan-feasting the attackers.
"They went around looking at the women and the houses they would take when they managed to get rid of the Jews and the Christians."
From what I've recently read, the Muslims are doing just that right now to the Copts in Egypt.
One wonders, when one is sullenly examined by a bulging-faced, pop-eyed hijabi, whether one is being sized up as a potential kitchen slave in keeping with Mohammed's promises.
Off topic, but :
Holy Dawa Batman it seems the Alawi are on Jihad in weeworld! Some posts by a 40 year old Muslim woman on a chat site meant for children.
http://www.weeworld.com/home/
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Reading tonight about one more attack (and one more, one more, one more…) by feral dog muslims living in the opportunity-laden, free West makes me wonder how much longer it will be before someone in some country FINALLY HAS HAD ENOUGH OF IT AND FIGHTS BACK!
Note to Dookie Hooper or any other deceitful muslim who may trolling this website: I am not advocating violence in any manner, shape, or form;but my gut feeling is that day is rapidly approaching—time will tell.
Yes, why IS islum the only “misunderstood” religion in the world and why MUST the free people of the West keep yielding to its never-ending demands? Again, I do think the day is rapidly approaching when the normally tolerant, free people finally say, “Enough!”
These Muslim immigrant thugs need to be taught some manners, so send 'em back to the hell hole from whence they came.
I don't understand this hate. Any Muslim here understand it? Can you explain why it is so important to hurt Jews? Why?
I don't understand. I thought Islam was a religion of peace? Did the attackers not learn this at the mosque? I mean, there are no violent verses in the Qur'an, are there? They must be Islamophobes.
But in any case it was certainly rather risky of the Jews to dare to walk the streets in a Muslim country.
Police opened an investigation and are looking for the Muslim teenagers allegedly responsible for the attacks.
Good luck with that.
Heartfelt sympathies to the Jewish teens who were attacked by these islamist thugs. The barbarians will attack in numbers with dangerous weapons and the French Ministry of the Interior says its a minor incident.
Have the French lost their spine to fight these muslim pigs? These pigs will never change till they are told in the language they understand "Violence " and "Terror".
Kick these immigrants to the hell hole they have come from where they will live happier than they are now.
this was a pre-planned ambush...One of the Muslims favorite tactics.
cowards follow the kkkoran when it instructs its followers to attack by ambush, muslim men like to use this tactic and also beat up on their women, now what a recipe of a cowardly society.
France has become too dangerous for Jews to live in, thanks to a moonbat immigration policy which has let in so many Islamonazis.
Jewdog
I hate to remind anyone of this but probably the only thing Islamonazis have in common with the French is antisemitism.
Orwell's 1984...
The ministry/Religion, of Peace/Islam, wages war/jihad.
Muslims attack Jews frequently in France, especially Paris. Most of them never get reported.
But what's wrong with that? Muslims are supposed to attack Jews. Especially those hiding behind rocks.
The law just does not understand that we can't have the 'last days' until all the Jews are dead. It says so in one of Allah's books.
So as far as Islam and Allah are concerned, attacking Jews is halal.
Allah does not like Jews. He turned some of them into apes and pigs.
He created them because he needs a few people to push around, and take his frustrations out on.
Yes Allah is frustrated.
The inhabitants of dar al-harb keep resisting him.
The Jews and Christians won't give up their false religions, kufirs are investigating Islam and finding closets full of skeletons.
It gets harder and harder to get converts, and to keep all those newly arriving dead jihadi's in virgins and wine. Allah is over worked, tired,
frustrated, he needs a nap...a long one...
As long as Allah remains frustrated we can expect escalating attacks against Jews and others.
That's providing Allah wills it, but as we know, he always does...
I don't understand this hate. Any Muslim here understand it? Can you explain why it is so important to hurt Jews? Why?
Posted by: herself at September 8, 2008 3:27 AM
Read the Qur'an, it is an anti-semitic document that encourages this sort of uncivilized behavior.
If the French PEOPLE don't stand up for the Jews, one day there will be no one left to stand up for THEM. Islam will take over ALL of France and the world will go on its merry way.
and it is just the beginning. Unfortunately . good citizens in France or anywhere else have a hard time to understand the danger.
This incident was reported but how many are not.
Does anybody know that in France some Jewish family are ready to leave the country because they dont feel secure anymore.
Does that ring a bell? Just before the Germans started to deport Jewish families. some prominent families fled Europe
give those Muslims a few more years and they will govern Paris.
It is very sad.
give those Muslims a few more years and they will govern Paris.
It is very sad.
Posted by: Tartine
It's insane. The French would be well-advised to pack up everything in their museums that can be packed and move it out of Europe for safekeeping.
The Versailles Palace won't last long. Neither will the Eiffel Tower.
The sad thing is that this is very much a self-inflicted wound.
Don't expect ordinary French people to do anything to help their Jewish population. Their attitude is "As long as it isn't happening to us, it doesn't matter". They didn't give a damn about their Jewish population when the Nazis rounded them up and shipped them off to Auschwitz and Maidanek. In a book I read about Paris under the German occupation, I saw the sentence "12,000 Parisian Jews disappeared without causing so much as a ripple". The French were amongst the most enthusiastic collaborators with the Nazis when the roundup of Jews took place. The Vichy Government started rounding up Jews BEFORE the Nazis asked them to do it. At best, probably no more than one in 5,000 French people helped their Jews. And almost 70 years on, nothing has changed.
This Hindu expresses his sympathies and solidarity with these Jewish teenagers and with all infidels. As I see it, every state has failed to act against the Islamic goons for reasons only the PC brigade knows. In a situation like this, the affected groups have to organize and defend their own interests. The suggestion to learn martial arts is a good one. History has shown that unless you stand up to the Islamic thugs, they will continue to walk all over you.
A becoming more common experience in Europe destined to becoma a becoming more common experience in the US.
Better wake up people! the only way to prevent this is to stop Muslim immigration.
the only way to do that is recognize Islam for what it is - an ideology directly opposed to freedom!
Ban it in the US now!
see -
http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html
Here is a taste -
Article III
Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.
The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing war on democratic and other non-Islamic values.
The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as prescribed by Congress. Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.
Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.
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Now that would have a possibility of of actually doing something about Islamic violence.
When in college I spent some time in a French exchange program, with a family. This was in the late 80's, and they told me certain areas that I might want to avoid because of "les arabes". I took their advice and had no problems, but now I look back and realize that their way of dealing with it probably reflects the entire nation - just keep them away from the rest of us and we don't care what they do to others, until it has come to this.
La France est perdue. France is lost.
They should all move to Eastern Europe where good old fashioned Catholic and Orthodox bigots can beat them up
I am not 100% convinced that Obama is a Muslim but I am not 100% convinced that, in his heart, he is NOT a Muslim. I believe that it is clear that he has a close fondness with the Muslim religion.
So...if you are a Muslim, vote for him. He is as close to one as you will get to vote for this time around. If you are not a Muslim, what the heck, take a chance and vote for him. You have everything to lose.
Tartine, Israeli friends of mine have French branches of the family who began contemplating leaving France two to three years ago. Some have done so by now.
Yes, the handwriting is on the wall & visible to those who care to see.
Tartine, Israeli friends of mine have French branches of the family who began contemplating leaving France two to three years ago. Some have done so by now.
Yes, the handwriting is on the wall & visible to those who care to see.