India: Muslim masses demand dignity

It is so weird seeing PDP leaders asking Congress govt to be 'more muslim appeasing'. Weren't these the guys who were shouting azadi ( freedom ) and Pakistan a few months back. Sensible thing would be to kick them out to Pakistan, but India doesn't yet have balls to do that. What more Cong. govt is fully supported by muslims, it is their captive vote bank and they do all they can to keep it, to the point of going to arrested terrorists' families and sympathizing with them. But muslims will call them anti muslim, how oxymoronic, just goes to show that muslims are never satisfied with infidels no matter how much they are appeased and will keep demanding until the land is Dar-es-islam.

"Easy solution: "young and educated Muslims" should renounce terror and thereby avoid being imprisoned."

HA!~...Isreal released a large number of Muslim prisoners upon receiving their oath to renounce terror....The released prisoners went home and immediately resumed their terrorist ways...several were recaptured after commiting terrorist acts, several participated in Muslim riots, several returned to launching rockets, several were killed in Iraeli attacks on the rocket launching positions...

A Muslim oath to renounce terror isn't worth much...and everyone should know that by now..

If life is just too darn unfair for Muslims in India, they could always move to Pakistan or Bangladesh. Just a thought. Won't they be happier in an Islamic Paradise?

'Partition of India' was the biggest farce in history, muslims got Pak and bangla and still got to stay in India with 'special privileges' like Haj subsidy and weak sharia law.

More and more Hindus are now realizing that Gandhi and Nehru cheated them in 1947 by not allowing population exchange.

In my opinion, Gandhi-Nehru and his cohorts did more damage to India than a dozen rampaging Islamic armies.

Muslim masses demand dignity
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Reply: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

"We can't fill the jails of the country with young and educated Muslims in the hope of freeing the country of terror," the former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister said.

Well, sure you can. Or you could fix the problem the old fashion (Islamic) way. That would make jail look a little more attractive, wouldn't it "chief"?

Muslim masses demand dignity

Then perhaps they should start behaving with dignity.

OT....Here's a novel interpretation of the ahadiths:

"Sheik Mohammed Ben Abderahman al-Maghraoui had issued a fatwa, or religious ruling, on his Web site saying it was lawful for a Muslim man to marry a 9-year-old girl because Islam's Prophet Mohammed had done so.

"What the Prophet can do is not open to ordinary Muslims," said lawyer Mourad El Bekkouri, who filed a legal complaint this month asking "the king's prosecutor to sue al-Maghraoui for promoting pedophilia and rape.""

Sounds to me like he's accusing 'the prophet' of pedophilia and rape. Guess that's the difference between a lawyer and a sheik. The one gets all hung up on (present day) Malaysian constitutional law, while the other dreams of the Malaysian sharia future.

More and more Hindus are now realizing that Gandhi and Nehru cheated them in 1947 by not allowing population exchange."
-- from a posting above

Gandhi was unacceptably wrong about a number of things -- his advice to Jews to mimic Indians in their campaign with the British, and to offer "passive resistance" to Hitler, and if necessary sacrifice themselves, takes the cake, but he was also remarkably ill-informed about the Muslim threat, the deep and permanent threat, to the "wounded civilization" (in Naipaul's phrase -- a civilization "wounded" by the centuries of Muslim rule, its cruelty, its mass murdering). And he certainly gave Muslims the benefit of every doubt.

After Partition, Muslims attacked Hindus, and Hindus fought back. There was an exchange of popoulations, but many tens of millions of Muslims remained in India, while a few million Hindus remained in West Pakistan (now Pakistan) and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh). But because of the constant discrimination against, and persecution of, Hindus (as well as of all other non-Muslims), the percentage of the population of West Pakistan that is now Hindu has dropped from 15% to 1.4%, and from 35% to less than 8%. The much smaller population of Buddhists in Bangladesh has also been persecuted, and of course Christians in both Pakistan and Bangladesh have a terrible time. Meanwhile, in India, the Muslim percentage of the population climbs steadily up, and no Muslims appear to be fleeing India to go to Pakistan or Bangladesh. So there continues to be population movement, but not popoulation exchange. If Hindus (and other non-Muslims) are not to be permanently subject to Muslim terrorism and to Muslim demands, each demand more outrageous than the next, with no sign that Muslims are willing to own up to what is in the Qur'an, the Hadith, and the Sira, and own up to the incompatibility of Islam, and what Islam inculcates, with the beliefs, or the legal and political institutions, of Hindus, or Christians, or Jews, or Buddhists, or anyone at all who is non-Muslim and refuses to yield to the Sharia and to dominacne by Muslims, then eventually, and inevitably, those such as the Hindus, upon whom war has been made, will react and not stop until they have done to Muslims what Muslims have been doing to them, and pushed many of them into Pakistan and Bangladesh, in mirror image of the Hindus formerly pushed out of those places, during the past half-century since Partition. It is doubtful that in the rest of the world there would be much, or any, sympathy for the Muslims dealt with in this matter. Infidels need not inure themselves, need not endure forever what has become or is becoming an intolerable situation because of the ideology of Islam.

Give us dignity! We ain't got no dignity! Something vaguely ungrammatical about that.

Eastview, Ralphinfidel

you're both putting your finger on the real problem - that is, that Islam does not teach nor observe the Golden Rule. The Muslims in India are conforming to G K Chesterton's definition of Barbarism - "the barbarian is someone who laughs when he hurts you, but howls when you hurt him".

Muslims loudly DEMAND 'respect' from non-Muslims, they feel absolutely entitled to it (since they believe themselves to be The Best of People, imitating The Perfect Man, Mohammed, and possessing The Perfect Teaching [sharia - *spit*]) and are totally offended when they don't receive it...whilst feeling, themselves, absolutely entitled to treat all non-Muslims with contempt, even with murderous contempt.

Even as they curse us and attack us they demand that we smile and flatter and affirm them (and, of course, submit to every assault no matter how vile, without resistance).

It is as if a serial rapist-torturer-killer were to demand that his victim should not scream nor curse nor struggle, but smile, and tell him in ecstatic tones 'I love you! you're wonderful!'

In M Scott Peck's devastating book "People of the Lie" (a study in the psychology of human evil), in a chapter entitled 'Charlene: A Teaching Case', he describes one aspect of the behaviour of one particular patient, who slowly revealed herself to be a thoroughly evil person.

When I read it, I was forcibly reminded of the continual Muslim DEMAND for 'RESPECT'.

"As psychological adults we have all learned, to a greater or lesser degree, that in order to be loved it is our responsibility to make ourselves lovable.

"A key element in Charlene's behaviour was her request - no, her demand - that I love her regardless of how she behaved - that I affirm her not just for who she might become, but for who she was, sickness and all.

' In so doing I would give her what she desired from me - the love of a mother for her infant, the consistently unconditional love that can be experienced only in infancy...
'But it was impossible for me to make it up to her.

'For she demanded that I love her unconditionally as a sick adult. She insisted that I love her as a mother would an infant, but she insisted also that I treat her as an adult peer.

'If for no other reason, her demand was impossible to fulfil, because it was a demand to affirm her sickness.

'Charlene did not want to be healed. She wanted to be loved, not changed. She wanted to be loved for herself, neurosis and all.

'Although she would never say so, it gradually became clear that Charlene remained in therapy with the intent to obtain my love *without* therapy - that is, to have both my love and her neurosis, to have her cake and eat it too."

The Ummah is like 'charlene'. They demand to be loved by us kafir- but have no intention of stopping their highly unlovable behaviour.

(The next section of Peck's chapter on 'Charlene' is entitled "A law unto herself', and includes this observation, also pertinent to the conduct of Mohammedans -

'I was just too tired of batting my head against the impregnable walls of Charlene's obliviousness. As far as she was concerned, my feelings did not really exist.

'Autism is narcissism in its ultimate form. For the complete narcissist, others have no more psychological reality than a piece of furniture."

Peck observes "Repeatedly I attempted to explain to her - sometimes gently, sometimes forcefully - that her disregard of others was at the core of her failures, and how self-destructive was her extreme narcissism. But 'the world is too inflexible' was the closest she ever came to acknowledging the problem. 'And unkind'."

Shades of all those complaints about 'Islamophobia'!!!)

Or all the disaffected Muslims in India can repair themselves to either Pakistan or Bangladesh (formerly East Pakistan), their choice. Goodbye, namaste, hasta la vista.
And good riddance.

You 'respect' them as you would a pack of rabid dogs, acknowledging the very real threat they pose, then neutralizing that threat.

BTW, the OT cited above is Morocco, not Malaysia

Islam - Religion of Promise Breakers

I always thought dignity came from inside oneself. It is not something that can be given or taken away.

And respect must be earned, not given.

Hugh, my comment about population exchange was that in 1947, Jinnah had his 2 nation theory and proposed that both sides exchange populations peacefully and quickly. Instead of agreeing to this sensible demand, Gandhi-Nehru kept peddling their Hindu-Muslim bhai bhai and ultimately Hindus ( and Sikhs ) got evicted from Pakistan and muslims stayed in India.

Hugh, my comment about population exchange was that in 1947, Jinnah had his 2 nation theory and proposed that both sides exchange populations peacefully and quickly. Instead of agreeing to this sensible demand, Gandhi-Nehru kept peddling their Hindu-Muslim bhai bhai and ultimately Hindus ( and Sikhs ) got evicted from Pakistan and muslims stayed in India.

infidel_hindu,

That's exactly how it looks from a European perspective. Typical of a moslem land grab.

They have to be in every country but they try to keep people out of the countries they've already taken over.

islam is a really bad brain virus.

Even worse than its softer cousin aka Western liberalism.

And even more incurable.

New Blast in India, Delhi Mehrauli area, 18 dead.

People are seething in anger against inept Congress govt.

Muslim ire puts Congress in fix
Pioneer News Service | New Delhi

UPA may go in for action against Hindu outfits to prove its 'secular credentials'

As major Muslim outfits turn the heat on the Congress for police action against the Delhi blasts accused, a jittery UPA is bending over backwards to convince them of its "secular" credentials.

On a day when nine Muslim organisations held a protest in the Capital and slammed the Congress for victimising the 'innocent' Muslims, two Union Ministers made statements that were music to their ears.

While Union HRD Minister Arjun Singh backed Jamia Millia Islamia's decision to fund legal aid to its students accused of bomb blasts, his Cabinet colleague Ram Vilas Paswan revealed the Cabinet is actively considering a ban on Bajrang Dal.

With the poll season fast approaching, the 'Muslim' factor is expected to weigh heavily on the mind of the UPA decision-makers and some crackdown on the Hindu outfits seems inevitable.

Ever since the police crackdown on Delhi blast suspect, pressure from the Muslim bodies on the Government has been unrelenting. On Friday, as many as nine Muslim bodies came under the umbrella of the Coordination Committee of Indian Muslims and attacked the Congress for carrying out a "political agenda to victimise every Muslim citizen for the Delhi serial blasts."

"Innocent Muslims are being captured, this will not be tolerated. The real terrorists are not Atif, Sajid or Basheer but the Indian Government and Home Minister Shivraj Patil," said Shahi Imam of Delhi's Jama Masjid Syed Ahmed Bukhari.

He demanded a probe in Inspector Mohan Chand Sharma's death in the alleged encounter and said, "It is possible that the bullets that hit Sharma were actually shot by the police and not by the men in the house."

Representatives from Jamiat Ulema-i-Hind, Jamiat-e-Islami, All India Milli Council, All India Majelish Mushawarat, Jamia Nagar Coordination Committee, All India Muslim Rabita Council (Coordination), Peace Party of India, National Lok-Tantrik and several other Muslim organisations condemned the Congress-led UPA Government for toeing an anti-Muslim line to spoil the image of the community.

Speaking to The Pioneer, general secretary of All India Muslim Rabita (Coordination), Abdul Rehman Abid said: "We are worried about this Government agenda which has lost its secular credentials and become very much like the BJP, we do not see any difference between the BJP-led NDA and the Congress-led UPA."

In a bid to make peace with the Muslim leadership, Arjun Singh went to the extent of describing Jamia VC's stand to provide legal aid as a "step in national interest".

"There is nothing wrong in providing legal aid. In this case, I have got the full details. I understand whatever Mushirul Hasan told me in this context, and his decision is right," Singh told mediapersons.

Meanwhile, the BJP demanded dismissal of the Vice-Chancellor and termed the decision as 'atrocious, anti-national and highly objectionable'.

Paswan also backed the Jamia decision saying, "The society should introspect on the increasing alienation of Muslims. No Muslim had betrayed India in the three wars against Pakistan, yet today they are being made suspect."

While Singh was backing the Jamia's move to aid the terror suspects, Paswan was telling the media of the Government move to ban the Bajrang Dal.

Condemning Bajrang Dal's alleged role in attack on churches in Orissa and Karnataka, he said, "I raised the issue forcefully in the last Cabinet meeting and was told that there were certain procedures before an organisation was banned. The move is under consideraiton," he said.

"infidel_hindu":

My comment was based on understanding your comment, not misunderstanding it. I merely dilated upon Gandhi, who though Brahmin has become untouchable as Saint Gandhi, and I don't think he was quite as wonderful as some may suppose. Then I went on to describe what has happened to Hindus (and other non-Muslims) in Pakistan and Bangladesh, and compared their decline in numbers with the rise in Muslim numbers in India, and what those falling and rising numbers reflect.

India: Muslim asses demand dignity...

Stop being asses, making demands, and you might be treated with some dignity.

Infidel hindu

The Bajrang Dal is doing no-one on our side any favors by its recent anti-Christian activities, thereby turning the focus away from the Jihadi activities. They've just provided the dhimmis another stick to beat Hindus with. They would have done well to have stayed focussed on the Mohammedans.

order to reassure them of dignity and fair application of legal and constitutional safeguards.
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the problem imo is that dignity on a muslim means all non muslims must be dhinni and pay the jizha

Muslims really don't expect to be treated with dignity. For these folks, even equality is not good enough.

They want to be treated as the superior class of humans they believe themselves to be...and it is for the dhimmis to remember their subservient place in society, or else.