"Scholars have justified chopping down and burning the infidels' forests when they do the same to our lands."
This principle of retaliation is deeply rooted in Islamic theology -- as I showed in my Jihad Watch Blogging the Qur'an series here, and ended up having an exchange about it in the comments field that you may find interesting.
"Islam group urges forest fire jihad," by Josh Gordon for The Age, September 7 (thanks to Morgaan Sinclair):
AUSTRALIA has been singled out as a target for "forest jihad" by a group of Islamic extremists urging Muslims to deliberately light bushfires as a weapon of terror.US intelligence channels earlier this year identified a website calling on Muslims in Australia, the US, Europe and Russia to "start forest fires", claiming "scholars have justified chopping down and burning the infidels' forests when they do the same to our lands".
The website, posted by a group called the Al-Ikhlas Islamic Network, argues in Arabic that lighting fires is an effective form of terrorism justified in Islamic law under the "eye for an eye" doctrine....
Where, oh where are the environmentalist whacko treehuggers on this???
Oh yeah ... cozying up to the candidate that the enemy wants in office.
to think ... Allah would encourage such piro-cy so that the BROTHERS would avoid hellfire.
excuse ... that's pyro-cy ... as in pyromania.
When I was a kid in the fifties watching Western movies at Saturday matinees I would always wonder "Doesn't the snarling, slinking, evil-doing bad guy that realize he's the bad guy?".
So that's what happened to the once-lush forests of Oman, Syria, Libya, and other Moslem countries: those nasty infidels came and rooted them up.
Here is the treatise on this subject.
http://www.marisaurgo.com/msj/Ulema_files/Treatise.pdf
"Only you can prevent forest fire jihad."
I guess they haven't heard that "only God can make a tree". They're despoilers of all creations of God
They're also too stupid to know that countries which have forests know how to fight forest fires.
Page 10 of the treatise concerns burning our lands.
Has anyone else noticed the silence on the forest fires in the LA basin a year ago? the one that had several downed power lines, and the fires were almost in a line going down the ocean. And they found one 10 year old that was a fire bug - but that didn't explain how a little 10 year old could get to all those areas in such a short amount of time.
And before the fires we had warnings of a fire jihad out West.
And now - nothing. No investigative reporters telling us what happened - well, most of the news is controlled by saudis (such as Fox news' Murdock who was asked not to say 'muslim' when reporting the French riots some years back - and now we rarely hear about ANY riots when they are going on in Europe caused by muslims!).
The truth is that one guy could do a hell of a lot of short term damage. In the long run, forests grow back since fires are part of the natural cycle of nature. People often die in forest fires, especially those putting them out.
The fact that this threat has been issued and that there is no way to determine which Muslims are jihadists, it gives great weight to the argument that Western countries should suspect all Muslim immigration (except on compassionate grounds).
Oh, and all of you excited little Muslim lurkers, think about this:
We burn our own forests all the time. These burnings kill off excess undergrowth and clear away deadwood. That's right--our forests are so lush and fertile, sometimes there's too much growth.
Sure, burning defoliates some of the trees, and they look ugly for about a year, maybe two, before they burst into fresh, new green. You see, you can burn the outsides of a tree, but that doesn't kill it, and it almost always comes back.
Now, while you look up the words you don't understand (growth, undergrowth, deadwood, lush, fertile, etc.), I'm going to sit back and contemplate how much it sucks to be you.
You can't build skyscrapers. You can only destroy them in acts of mass murder. You can't grow trees, or enjoy them, so you propose to burn them. Typical Muslim logic.
Yep. It sucks to be you.
So now they hate trees.
That's what happened to the Sahara Forest......
Yes, it is a desert...............now.
I just had an interesting exchange with Abdullah Mikail at
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022507.php
about whether the Qu'ran means what it says when it says "Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers". Apparently, it doesn't mean that at all!
I learned that it's all about the context.
Likewise, when the Qu'ran says "revenge", apparently it doesn't REALLY mean "revenge".
See, it takes a subtly comprehending intellect to understand the context and know the sublime truth of what "revenge" REALLY means.
The problem is that any idiot who can read knows what "revenge" means. It doesn't take a PhD to read simple words.
Now I know why there are so many jihadists, because there are a lot of Muslims who can understand simple words, and not enough with the incredible wisdom it takes to understand the hidden truth BEHIND and APART from the actual words.
I get it now!
Overgrown, ignorant vandals. 30 something adolescents.
The treatise had a few other good passages in it. It was all about what you could do in enemy territory. WE are in enemy territory.
Every rule has an exception or caveat. You do what we tell you unless it's inconvenient or won't get the job done. Then you can do as you please.
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Pg 7:
God has enjoined benevolence on everything. If you kill, kill in a good manner. If you slaughter animals, slaughter in a good manner;
let the slaughterer sharpen his blade and put his victim at ease.
The easiest way to kill a human being is by striking the neck.
"When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks."
One kills in a good manner only when one can. If those engaged in jihad cannot do so, for example when they are forced to bomb, destroy, burn or flood, it is permissible.
Pg 15:
The arguments of scholars, regardless of their legal school, show that defeatism has come only with modern times; Islam's religious law is free of it and the scholars of Islam are free of it. You will find in their language no attempt to gain the affection of the infidels, harmonize the religious law of Islam with what they pretend to call the "rights of man," or talk about "the peace-loving peoples."
Consider their pronouncements: "There is nothing wrong with setting fire to the fortresses of the polytheists, flooding them with water, poisoning their water, or devastating and destroying their habitations," and other expressions over which the opportunists choke.
how do you think the once lush area of N.Afr. and othe ME areas became deserts, it was islamization of the lands conquered by the muslims. they are the evil set upon the world, and why they are envious of the JEws who made a flower in the desert out of Israel!
Here in California we have just had the worst year for wildfires in the state's history. Even though we live at least a hundred miles from the nearest forest fire, we had weeks of chokingly bad air quality--most of the air from the Sacramento and San Joaquin valleys finds it way out through San Francisco Bay eventually. I developed pnemonia because my lungs were so compromised. This was not uncommon.
Several firefighters died battling the fires in helicopter accidents. Luckily, there have been no civilian deaths, although there has been huge loss of property. And fire season is not over yet--not until late October. We are in a fairly severe drought just now.
In any case, much of the American West is vunerable to this sort of attack, as is the South-East (in a rare drought just now, itself), and Australia, of course, suffers frequent droughts that would make the threat greater.
I have no reason to believe that any of the hundreds of fires here were Jihad-related, although some have been found to have been set, through either stupidity or actual arson. (Most were lightning strikes and other natural causes.)
Even most of the fires deliberately set are the work of emotionally disturbed teenagers, not examples of a deliberate ideology. How sick is Jihad, that they would deliberately inflict such a danger as a matter of *strategy*?
I wonder, though, if this strategy is ever put into effect, would fire investigators and law enforcement recognize it for what it is? I imagine it would be the same as with other forms of "sudden Jihad syndrome"--the same denials of the perpetrators' links to terrorists groups, and hints at previous mental problems, which surely would explain the whole thing.
I'm Australian. One of my brothers lives in the bush and is an active member of the Bush Fire Brigade (volunteer organisation).
He has not just undergone training on how to fight wildfire, though; he ALSO has a nifty little book that goes into the proper response to acts of terror, e.g. how to deal with a suspected truck bomb. He is aware of the Third Jihad.
I gave him a copy of the 'PIG to Islam and the Crusades', which he received with every evidence of keen interest.
And, since he (and my dad) live in and near exactly the sort of sparsely populated country to which wannabe jihadis from the city Mohammedan colonies might travel to conduct weapons and combat training, I also gave him a copy of an article that appeared here, concerning jihadis carrying out jihad training in a very similar district of Canada; and a previous article from this site, that dealt with exactly the same summons to jihadists, to set forest fires in the US and Australia, as is currently under discussion in this thread.
The article posted above will be copied by me and sent off to my brother forthwith, as reinforcement of what I gave him before. I suggest that every other Australian posting or lurking here should do likewise - copy the article and communicate it to your local shire or city council, and to your local chapter of the State Emergency Services and of the Bush Fire Brigade, and to any friend or relative you may know who is involved in such bodies. Just so's they know, if we get bad 'fire weather', to be on the lookout for prowling, slinking, sneaking Mohammedans with arson on their minds.
This isn't as much fun as violent Jihad. The real muslim man, leaves this sort of soft Jihad to children cutting their teeth in infidel lands. There not much booty to be had by setting fires, but it denies infidels their sense of security which helps to subdue them to Allah's will.
Muslims have been destroying the resources of non-muslims since day one. I am sure, they have been setting fires for years here in the states.
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"Where, oh where are the environmentalist whacko treehuggers on this???"
Busily pouring petrol into plastic jugs - because no forest today is a "natural forest."
Forest fire Jihad. Anything to screw up the works for us.
And the day they achieve their glorious ummah will be the day they starve to death because they will nolonger have any host body to parasite on. They will then be at each others throats and when there is nothing more to eat they will start to cannibalize each other. And I doubt they will learn any lesson from this either.
"I wonder, though, if this strategy is ever put into effect, would fire investigators and law enforcement recognize it for what it is?"
They can't find their ass with their hands so don't hold your breath.
"I wonder, though, if this strategy is ever put into effect, would fire investigators and law enforcement recognize it for what it is?"
Not likely. If it happens in an area where camping is allowed it will be attributed to "carelessness" by someone starting a camp fire.
If there is no camping and there are no lightning strikes it will be attributed to an accident by a hiker, such as lighting up a cigarette.
And if they DID recognize it for what it was, they would keep quiet about it, so as not to cause a panic or hurt "innocent Muslims".
Well, I hope they start those fires in a proper Muslim way. Like pouring the Gas over their Heads before they "Flame On" with a flick of their Bic.
the first Arab-set jihadist forest fire in Israel took place in 1994 shortly after arafat was allowed into the country in order to take over Gaza. The govt of the time, the Rabin-Peres-Beilin gang, covered up the fact that these fires were set, with several foci of kindling. It was not until Netanyahu was pm that the truth was told, but quietly.
The first forest fire set by arafat's gang was in 1994 west of Jerusalem. It was frightening to see the smoke from Jerusalem and one wondered whether the fire would get to the city. Another fire in the same area took place in 1995. Subsequent fires took place near Haifa on the Carmel range.
Abscedere, you are missing the point. It's not that the trees can grow back, it's the MONEY that it takes to fight a fire. Many of America's enemies have stated that they will use economic means to destroy us. Have you any idea the MILLIONS of dollars we in Calif. have paid putting out this summer's fires? Where will this money come from if we have another year like this in the near future? It's all about the money.