Along with the threats and bloody imagery, the jihadists continuously boasted about the "honor" of Islam and the "heroism" of martyrdom, continuously asserting that they are not brain-washed youth. After being brought to court, however, their bravado quickly dissipated into a plead of "guilty to causing a public nuisance, claiming the videos were simply part of a propaganda stunt." Another "I was only kidding" moment brought to you by the jihadists. More on this story.
"Airliner bomb trial: 'Suicide' videos promised body parts on the streets," by Duncan Gardham for the Telegraph, September 9:
In what the prosecution claimed were six "suicide videos" lasting a total of more than an hour, the defendants threatened to scatter "body parts" on the streets in revenge for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan."Until sharia is established on this earth"? Thought all this anger and frustration was due to Western interference in Islamic lands?The videos appeared to be choreographed by Abdulla Ahmed Ali, who called himself the leader of "this blessed operation".
During a 16-minute rant, Ali pointed his finger and mopped his brow as he made his point.
[...]
"You have shown more concern for animals than for the Muslim ummah [world]. When foxes are being killed you hold massive demonstrations.
"Any sensible person knows we are not targeting innocent people. We have made it absolutely clear to stay away from military, economic and government targets. If you do this you will be safe."
Referring to Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, Ali told his audience: "Sheikh Osama warned you many times to leave our lands or you will be destroyed and now the time has come for you to be destroyed and you have nothing to expect than floods of martyr operations, volcanoes of anger and revenge erupting among your capital."
He went on: "Expect floods of martyr operations against you and we will take our revenge and anger, ripping amongst your people and scattering the people and your body parts and your people's body parts responsible for these wars and oppression decorating the streets."
Ali accused western leaders of paedophilia, pornography and fornication and said he was "fed up with living in a kuffar [heathen] land".
"I'm no one's slave, I'm a free man," he added. "Those that know me know that I was over the moon that Allah has given me this opportunity to lead this blessed operation."
He said he had wanted to seek martyrdom since the age of 15 or 16 and said his aim was the "big rewards that Allah has promised those who step on his path and inshaallah [god willing] become martyr and the best of amongst those to me is the guarantee of jannah [paradise] for myself and my family and those that are close to me.
"On top of this is to punish and to humiliate the kuffar [non-believers], to teach them a lesson that they will never forget."
In his 18-minute video, Umar Islam, said he was on a mission of "revenge for the actions of the USA in the Muslim lands and their accomplices such as the British and the Jews"
Dressed in a black and white checked head scarf and sitting in front of a black banner with the words "There is no god but Allah" written in Arabic he told his audience: "There are many more like us ready to strike until the law of Allah is established on this earth."
Islam, a convert of Jamaican origin whose real name is Brian Young, appeared to be reading from a pre-prepared script as he proclaimed: "Martyrdom operations upon martyrdom operations will keep on raining on these Kuffar until they release you and leave our lands."
Off-screen Ali said non-believers would accuse them off being "brainwashed youths who are fed up with life and who are oppressed and angry and following a backward version of Islam."
Islam replied: "I would say that yes my brain has been washed in the clean and cleansing waters of Islam and the Koran and the Sunnah [the path of the Prophet].
"You call us terrorists but you can see we don't mind that because we will keep on terrorising you until you learn your lesson."
Ali asked Islam what he would say to non-believers who accused them of being "barbarians" killing "so-called innocent people" and Islam said he did not consider anyone innocent who paid taxes for an army "pillaging the Muslim lands."
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The men had pleaded guilty to causing a public nuisance, claiming the videos were simply part of a propaganda stunt, and the jury was unable to agree on whether Savant, Khan, Zaman and Islam had intended to carry out their threats.
Yada, Yada, Yada.....shut your mouth you filthy Jihadist!
Is it just my imagination or is he obsessed with body parts and carnage? He sounds like a slow 14 year old who plays too many violent videogames.
awake, my sentiments exactly. Blah blah blah blah...they just don't know how to shut up, and they all talk like they've swallowed a thesaurus.
God forgive me, but I despise these people!
Abscedere, I feel the same.
When I read about the Torah scrolls being pee'd on, I felt real hatred.
"Ali accused western leaders of paedophilia, pornography and fornication and said he was "fed up with living in a kuffar [heathen] land"."
If you're fed up, why don't you just leave and blow yourself up when you're outside the country?
Ali accused western leaders of paedophilia, pornography and fornication and said he was "fed up with living in a kuffar [heathen] land".
GET OUT!
Well, why doesn't he set himself as an example instead of asking others to blow themselves up? Hmm?
Jihadists warn Brits, "you have nothing to expect than floods of martyr operations, volcanoes of anger and revenge erupting among your capital" which will "scatter body parts" all over the streets
um there must be some mental defect in the muslim mind that makes them long for paridice to bad there all going to end up in hades when they think there going to get the vergins allha aka satan promised them
Ali accused western leaders of paedophilia, pornography and fornication and said he was "fed up with living in a kuffar [heathen] land".
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The feeling is quite likewise. We are FED UP WITH THESE SATANIC HEATHEN STONE-WORSHIPPING MOON-"god"-FOLLOWING MOSLEMS LIVING INSIDE OUR GREEN AND HOLY LANDS!!!!!
So if ya don't like it here.. GET OUT.
They have SOME NERVE describing OUR people as into paedophelia!
Their filthy fake "prophet" led the way by raping a 9yo. And it hasn't stopped ever since.
Just ask the Ayatolla Kakmaemie.. re.. the proper age for fornication and how to properly dispose of donkeys and goats after a moslem has had its way with the poor unfortunate beast.
yep!!
Jail is no cure.
And we keep allowing them to breed among us and treat them not only as equals, but afford them special treatment. That's bad news...
Ick!
Reading tonight about one more example—AGAIN—of feral pig-dog muslims living in the opportunity-laden Free West threatening to attack, hurt, maim, scatter our body parts, and KILL us makes me wonder how much longer it will be before someone in some country FINALLY HAS HAD ENOUGH OF IT AND FIGHTS BACK!
I do think that day is rapidly approaching when we say, “ENOUGH!”
Re: He said…..his aim was the "big rewards that Allah has promised those who step on his path and inshaallah [god willing] become martyr and the best of amongst those to me is the guarantee of jannah [paradise] for myself and my family and those that are close to me.”
What’s that again?-- murder for allah, he’s pleased by it, so he gives the feral pig-dog (and his family and friends!) eternal virgins, eternal erections, and eternal sex in paradise?
This is all anyone really needs to know to understand the pure evil and wickedness that muhammed brought to the world.
I for one, am going to re-double my efforts to keep phoning and writing elected officials to wake up and respond to these threats. I am going to re-double my efforts to inform everyone I come in contact with about the threat to our lives and our Freedom that barbaric islam is. (I also give printed copies of violent verses from the koran to store clerks, waitresses, chatters at the bar, etc, along with websites that will educate them about islam—I do what I can.)
The jury in this trial must have been watching too many of those 'Islam is Peace' adverts, videos, PR, apologists... As always actions speak louder than words and in this case they certainly do. Anyone for Islam is Peace? Apart from the terminally deluded.
Anyone know who the defence lawyers were and who paid their bills?
There was a lawyer in the UK called George Carman, he died a couple of years ago and it was a waste of time prosecuting if he was defending. A comedian reckoned he could have got Stevie Wonder a driving licence and these people look just as capable.
They do this - expect retribution! The British Bulldog is alive and kicking and won't lie down for anyone!!!
While Jihadists bring horror to the 'hearts of the Kuffars', Brits can't even deport these Barbarians .. from Britain!
What a joke!
The comments following the Telegraph article indicate Brits are fed up. People know what needs to be done, but sadly, they seem to have no way of implementing their ideas.
Anyone for Islam is Peace? Apart from the terminally deluded.
Posted by: James at September 9, 2008 2:36 AM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/08/20080829-2.html
Some key points:
--- British Jihadists Umar Islam, Waheed Zaman, Ibrahim Savant, and Arafat Waheed Khan, admitted to merely "conspiring to cause a public nuisance," and were not convicted on conspiracy to murder
--- Umar Islam, Waheed Zaman specifically threatened America
--- It was Umar Islam (not convicted) who promised Jihadists "ready to strike until the law of Allah is established on this earth"
See also:
UK Jury Ruling on Jihadists Ignores Plot to Bomb Transatlantic Jets Headed to America
http://anti-jihad.org/blog/2008/09/uk-jury-ruling/
Ali said he was "fed up with living in a kuffar [heathen] land".
Go back to YOUR land - the land of Islam. That's the beautiful thing about the West. No one stops you from leaving.
Off-screen Ali said non-believers would accuse them off being "brainwashed youths who are fed up with life and who are oppressed and angry and following a backward version of Islam."
Not at all. You're a killer and you are following Islam as it has been followed for fourteen centuries. All you know is killing. Anyone who says you are brainwashed is letting you off the hook and you don't deserve that.
You yourself say you have wanted to seek martyrdom since the age of 15 or 16 and that your aim was the "big rewards that Allah has promised". That's a very materialistic goal.
"You call us terrorists but you can see we don't mind that because we will keep on terrorising you until you learn your lesson."
How many of these tantrums must we listen to before we get the message?
Islam said he did not consider anyone innocent who paid taxes for an army "pillaging the Muslim lands."
To the presidential candidates and to all leaders of the Western world:
NONE OF US ARE INNOCENT! Do you have that? Islam (the religion as well as this nut) considers any Westerner a valid target because we pay taxes. Osama said the same thing right after 9/11. Muslims consider NONE of us innocent! (If there are ANY that do, they won't say it aloud.) What will it take to get that through your heads?
Spoken like a genuine Muslim looser who has been screwed.
Jeffrey,
Thanks for the link. Those "not guilty" verdicts looked suspicious from the start.
The September 8, 2008 decision by the British jury on the British Jihadists behind the transatlantic jet plot has sent a very clear and inescapable message to America when it comes to punishing Jihadists that would seek to threaten America: "America, Drop Dead."
From This American to Britain: it's been nice knowing you. See you around.
Were any British Airways jets to be targeted or were they all American carriers? Anybody know?
Thanks.
I agree American
I love it how these jihadists keep saying how they are not "cowards" and worthy of "honor"! That's hilarious! Its as if they believe if they say it enough it might actually be so.
What is more cowardly then what they are promising to do? They strap themselves with bombs and go and blow themselves up. Meanwhile western soldiers (like the Canadian peacekeepers and American and other peacekeepers in Afghanistan try to prop up a failing country and americans go into Iraq and try to save innocent Iraqis --THOSE are men not the whiny sniveling jihadist scum who wouldn't know honor if it kicked them in the ass.
As a Canadian I'd like to say GOD BLESS AMERICA.
In Remembrance of Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf, please don't call Muslims pig-dogs. That is grossly unfair to well-intentioned, intelligent, beautiful creatures. I take dogs as my companions. I trust them. I love them. They are noble and honorable animals. And pigs are very intelligent, patently grateful animals.
I cannot say the same of Muslims. Muslims are unequivocally God's lowest, basest, filthiest, ugliest creatures. I often call muslimas 'tapeworms,' but that's a metaphor, and come to think of it, not very fair to tapeworms. Just call them Muslims. It says it all. Someday doing so will be considered hate speech. That will be a beautiful day.
Ali is supposed to be the most intelligent of the latest bunch of jihad's. It just shows how moronic the rest of them are.
Are we giving these cretins credit for an ability they don't possess? After all they don't seem to have been too successful since 7/7 and its not for the want of trying. Perhaps the terrorists are so full of hate for us that its effecting their thought processes. It is a known fact that intense hate is self destructive. In this case the hate is coupled with frustration for being thwarted by the infidel yet again.
So the jury couldn't decide if the video was just a joke?
He stated he wanted to become a martyr around 15? And now he is 27. Was Britain at war with muslims then? And he wants Britain to get out of HIS land, isn't he British? No loyalty is possible from true muslims, except to the umma.
Sounds like he just wants to be a good boy and get to paradise so that he can make sure his family and loved ones get there also. The current war is just giving him an opportunity to do so.
That is one big difference between islam and other religions. If you become a martyr you guarantee a place for yourself AND your loved ones. No other religion claims that. That's incentive to murder.
As to whether the carriers were American as well as BA, all we know is that 7 flights to various US cities from Heathrow would be targeted. I infer from that that American and British airlines would be hit and many Britons as well as Americans would be victims.
The Guardian has another angle on the story, that the difficulties in getting convictions may be due to the premature arrest of one suspect, necessitating the rapid capture of the others before they could scatter the evidence and flee. The argument goes that the British police would have preferred to wait long enough to get the vital evidence to convict them with. They even suggest that President Bush may have 'put pressure on the UK intel agencies to act swiftly'
Who knows?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/sep/09/6
Let's hope for a more successful retrial.
Dr T -
Don't you mean Islam?
Nobody at this site believes that Muslims should be wiped out.
How sad that now these kinds of videos by jihadi gets a slap on the wrist. It is become a norm in Western countries, I hope not. It is sad, very sad. This violent and sick religion continues to cause misery and suffering for every one.
Dr T -
You cross a dangerous line when you say that 'Muslims need to be wiped out completely'
There is much in the other points you make, but the only morally acceptable way to 'wipe out' muslims is by attacking the belief system which gives ordinary people the unpleasant characteristics you describe, and turn them into ex-muslims. Work against Islam effectively and it will go into decline. Criticise Muslims for their faults, prosecute them for their crimes, but do not tell us to wipe people out. That is morally wrong and gets JW an undeservedly bad name.
Four Steps to Freedom:
Allah is not God
Mohammed was not a good man
Islam is not a religion
Muslims are not citizens
It would be interesting to track down the very fist immigrants from the muslim world into Great Britian and then meticulously trace their every move. I would wager a nickel to a stale donut that the Jihad in Britian began the instant the very first muslim set foot on British soil.
But then again, inviting enemy soldiers into your base camp and then letting them kill you has never been a good idea. First thing you gotta do is try to eliminate the enemy. Deport all muslims from your lands. That will make it more difficult for them to kill your people and destroy your culture.
Wake up.
Mike,
You're right but we don't like to do things when they're easy. We'd rather wait until they get REALLY difficult and our backs are to the wall.
How many lives might have been saved, and how much destruction averted, if Hitler had been confronted when he marched into the Rhineland, long before he invaded Poland?
I have read this story last night, and I got MAD!
30 minutes ago I was watching this:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QxBHypZ4m0
We, the Israelis, have adopted GB's legal system
after their "sudden" departure from Palestine!
Since then , minor modifications have been done
in this respect.
Here in Israel, (without a Jury!...),The 8 scum
bags (Holy martyrs to be!..), would have received life in prison! ( And released a year after in an
exchange for one Jewish bone!...).
You Brits, have already lost!(Nobody told you that till now... huh?)
All I have to relay on, are my Twins who are serving in the IDF!
WATCH OUT! YOU JIHADI M_F!!
StephenA55,
Your recommendation about criticizing Muslims may work on humans but as we see time after time, we are not sure they are humans - they defy all human nature phenomena. I do not believe in wiping out animals either and they are incapable of understanding what they are doing. Muslims in the West are treated like handicaps, retards or mentally challenged and this is why our systems let them get away with things no human would get away with. They are not held to human standards and they are happy with that. They do not want to be held to human standards this is why you see CAIR defending every Islamic case. Humans in the US for example can defend them selves without an organization equivalent to CAIR. Have you ever seen a case against a Chinese, a Korean or any other nationals - you do not see an organization rushing to defend them - they are humans and they are capable of defending themselves. On the other hand, if a Muslim breaks the law in the US, no matter where he/she could be from you always see CAIR jumping in just like animal rights organizations do when there is a case against animals - someone has to defend the animals for they are helpless. Muslims are incapable to elevating themselves to Western like human level and we are stuck with them forever. Can you honestly disagree with me?
To America: You’ve made some excellent points. “....they defy all human nature phenomena....They are not held to human standards and they are happy with that...They do not want to be held to human standards….Muslims are incapable to elevating themselves to Western like human level…” -- In the ugly reality of their the religiously motivated violent actions, all this is true. Their only solution is to free themselves from the enslavement of islamic teachings—Ali Sina has done it, as have many others, hopefully, many more will too.
To jdam: My humble apologies to dogs and pigs, but hmmm—not to tapeworms. How about calling them, “virulent virus, filth, scum, dregs, rubbish, vomit, etc?
To PMK: You’re probably familiar with this quote before WWII: “If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” ---Winston Churchill
And---one of the most memorable quotes of all time:
“Give a man a breast and he will have fun forever, give him a bomb and he will blow his little pee pee off. ---Prophet Muhammed
http://www.prophet-muhammad.biz/boobs.html
(whew! all this islamic jihad crap is more than a little wearisome, some occasional humor is necessary and beneficial)
American -
Muslims are humans who are capable of inhumanity when their judgement and reasoning is warped by devout observance of Islam. That is why I say we need to push back against Islam. Ban Muslim immigration. But don't condemn all Muslims. That just gives CAIR more ammunition to attack the anti-jihad and win more support.
Support Hugh and Raymond and Robert in their efforts to get the word out about the dangers of Islam: how Islam itself is connected to all the 'Islamist' terrorist attacks. Don't let Islam off the hook. Look at the well known ex-Muslims - they are good people. Many Muslims are; except the ones that practise it seriously. Currently a growing number.
We've a long way to go, let's agree to work together to locate the causes of Jihad, and publicise them. We need to get more supporters and enter the mainstream. We can't do that by indulging feelings of blind hatred.
There's that *&^%&$) jabbing finger again. My response can be summed up without using any words whatsoever. It also uses of a single finger, albeit a different one.
Eastview, and others -
Yes I know what you mean and I apologise. mea culpa.
I'm pointing the finger at myself as much as anyone else, mind
Jihadists warn Brits, "you have nothing to expect than floods of martyr operations, volcanoes of anger and revenge erupting among your capital" which will "scatter body parts" all over the streets
Heads up to "moderate" muslims; if you have any dreams of living in peace with infidels in the 21st century, you need to start taking out the dimwitted pricks like this yourselves.
If however, scattering body parts all over the streets is what you prefer, make sure that's really what you want, because despite all your preening and puffing, infidels are just a lot better at organized killing than you are, and that gap has grown considerably in the last century, just another area where Islamic science has fallen short.
If you think Kamikaze style "martyr operations" are going to win the world for you, think again. What it will do is make infidels more concerned about the threat you pose, by remaining alive, than the threat the government poses to the infidel if he starts some freelance, preemptive killing. You won't be able to count on government protection and a general sense of civility for survival forever. And that's sort of a "best case" scenario for you; if a charismatic politician shows up with an anti-Islamic message that resonates with a population weary of your b.s., you could just as easily be totally, completely, and irretrievably screwed.
I'm just saying; you've had a free ride for quite a while, but nothing last forever, now it's time to pull your weight.
"Ali accused western leaders of paedophilia, pornography and fornication"
HAH! A raghead accusing US of pedophilia!
CHRIST! That's my laugh for the day...
Kuffars are 'pedophiles' who 'kill innocent people?'
Why do all Muslims lack a basic primary-school education? Like, do they really not realize how transparent they are? That 5th-graders recognize this as narcissistic projection? No. They don't. That's why Muslims in my grad school classes say things like 'women are genetically inferior,' 'blondes are genetically inferior' (coming from an Egyptian Arab Muslim inbred to within a generation of living in a zoo, bloody knuckles and all), and 'separate but equal [apartheid] constitutes an ideal all societies should aspire to.'
See 'In Defense of Internment' by Michelle Malkin. This wackjob proves her point. And she used civilized, educated, intelligent Japanese people as her primary example! Ha!
If they hate the West so much then why do they come here? They should stay in their Sharia abiding hell-holes and let us live in peace!
Deport this lot, putting them in jail is not the answer.