Nebraska Swift plant fires at least 86 over Ramadan demands

Gosh, during one of these Muslim outreach programs that the government always seems to be pushing they should cut these guys a break and tell them that if they walk off the job, they will lose it. And then someone should tell the government that these guys walk off the job so that they will be fired, so CAIR can sue the company that fires them.

As far as fainting from lack of food, it's always been my understanding that if I do something that causes something else to happen,if there is an adverse reaction, or a good reaction for that matter, it is my responsibility. What ever happened to combing your hair and acting cheerful when you're fasting and not telling anybody about it? Oh, yeah, I guess that's in the Bible.

realpatriot -- I mean no disrespect - but what the hell are you talking about? How does writing books, selling them, and sponsoring a web-site make Mr. Spencer, or anyone a "hypocrite"? I assure you, I am one poster that Mr. Spencer hasn't made money off of. I haven't bought anything of his. My education has been totally free here, and I do feel as though I have learned a whole lot and I've only been visiting this site for a couple of months at most. You know what lead me here? I was looking at satirical political videos on YOUTUBE, and I jokingly commented on a parody of Osama Bin Laden. I was attacked so visciously by a group of muslims wishing all sorts of death and jihad to me and to all americans that I googled the word "jihad" to learn what the word was really about and I would up on this site. Now I know what "jihad" means, and much more. Maybe it would be in YOUR best interest, however, if more people remained ignorant?

I just cleared out "realpatriot"'s comments. He/she had posted the same thing on almost a dozen threads. Same IP address of an occasional commenter -- one who hadn't been banned, so I don't know what the meltdown was about.

have been asking for accommodations with break times to allow prayer at sunset
as i understand from a Muslim co worker from my last job befor i was hit by a car muslims if they cant pray at sundown CAN pray later the sundown praying is just a custom
and since durring Ramadan they must fast durring the day have these imp idiots never heard of power bars they could carry a few on the job and eat after there fast is over

Mohamed Rage, who leads the Omaha Somali-American Community----

What a perfect name for the leader of the Omaha Somali-Savages community. If he can't "lead" them to civilization, maybe he could line up some Somali cab drivers to haul them to the airport since they can't board a slow boat to Somalia from Omaha.

Why are these people in the United States? Who is responsible for bringing them here? They are like fish out of water, unable to function in a civilized, orderly society. They cannot speak English, have no respect for the policies and rules of their employer, and in the infinite arrogance that defines the muslim ethos, demand special religious accommodations and respect for their religious beliefs. They are so typically muslim; all take and no give and when they don't get their way, they go berserk!

My God, you would think we needed these savages for some esoteric, vital function unique to Somali muslims! How on earth did the United States survive for over 200 years without them?

OK, now. Let's be sure if they were on green-cards. Keep track of them and let Mogadishu they're coming home.

From the article: "Mohammad Rage." Central casting couldn't come up with a better name than that to epitomize a believer in Islam.
If it were American and not Latino immigrant workers protesting Muslim privileged status, you know the article would have had a much more sinister take on them as "bigots."

I've had an epiphany. The answer is crystal clear. All we need to do is abandon our horrible western way of life, reject the the abominations known as the Constitution and The Bill of Rights, adopt sharia and all of these yucky things will stop happening. As a matter of fact, Swift should just hand over ownership to those poor, marginalized Somali victims. It'll work guys, right? Right?

LOL...is Mohammed Rage in any way related to Rage Boy?

These are the elements in the article that stood out, to me.

First, the company says *this* -" JBS Swift & Co. spokeswoman Tamara Smid confirmed 86 firings late Friday, saying the employees were terminated earlier that day for repeatedly leaving work without authorization. She would not give any other details, including whether anyone else had been fired."

And the Muslims say *this* - "Mohamed Rage, who leads the Omaha Somali-American Community Organization, said 80 workers were thrown out after an altercation late Thursday. He says when they tried to return for their shift Friday, they were fired, along with 70 others."

So: company says 86 people were fired; the Muslim gang boss says 150 people were fired. Who do we believe, ladies and gentlemen?

Second: the Muslims say THIS: "One of the Somali workers, Mohamed Farah, said some workers tried to take a break to pray Thursday around sunset. The break had been arranged with managers, Farah told The Associated Press, with Rage translating the conversation.
"Farah said tension had been building in recent days with Latino workers, who started protesting when they saw the Muslim workers leaving for break.
"Farah said the Latino workers started shouting and beating on their tables.
"Two [Muslim] women, one 19 and another in her 40s, and a 20-year-old man fainted during the commotion..." (Note well: 'playing the victim', appeal to emotions, attempt to start a pity party).

Now, the NON-MUSLIMS say THIS: "Dan Hoppes, president of Local 22 of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union, described what happened Thursday night differently than Rage and Farah did.

"He said that according to [non-Muslim] management and [non-Muslim?] employees, 60 to 80 people quit late Thursday after raising the prayer issue and creating a commotion.
"Hoppes said supervisors had told the workers to go back to work or leave and they left.
"Workers who walked off the job Monday and Tuesday in protest had to have known their leaving again would result in their termination, he said."

Note that the Muslim gang boss says the Latino workers created the 'commotion' whereas the non-Muslim union leader says that the Muslims were the ones 'creating a commotion'.

So: once again we have a critical contradiction between the Muslim version and the non-Muslim version of events. Who do we believe, ladies and gentlemen?

Me, I'm inclined to believe the non-Muslim union leader and the non-Muslim company rep.

Why? Because the Muslims are steeped in a cultural mindset founded by a man who said, 'War is deception', and that permits them to lie in order to get the drop on non-Muslims or to make Islam look good.

This dispute at Swift is a war by any other name - a war on the factory floor, a war to impose the law of Islam on previously non-Islamic turf.

There are 500 Muslims; there are 2000 non-Muslims. The 500 Muslims - 1/5th of the workforce, i.e. 20 % - are attempting to dominate. Until the non-Muslims jacked up, the Muslims were quite prepared to force the other workers to work more and longer in order to make up for what they (the Muslims) were not doing; and had disrupted the non-Muslims' work schedules.

If I were a CEO in charge of Swift I would not hire one single Muslim ever again, and I would replace all fired Muslims, with non-Muslims.

If I were a non-Muslim worker at Swift - and especially if I were Dan Hoppes - I would be getting to work to secretly record, via hidden camera or suchlike, the conduct and words of the Muslims in the workplace, in any argument or 'commotion'.

Because you can bet your bottom dollar that they [the Muslims] will lie through their teeth, with utter conviction, with tears rolling down their cheeks, if it ever comes to a court case.

Might be an idea to send the local papers in Grand Island a few letters to the editor discussing the concepts of
1. 'War is deception' and the Permission to Lie in Time of War, or to protect Islam
2. Al-taqiyya and kitman - provide link to relevant articles at this website or at Ali Sina
3. quote the passages from 'PIG to Islam and the Crusades', and from 'Truth About Mohammed', where Spencer discusses the raid at Nakhla and the codifying of the principle that whatever advances Islam (i.e. the temporal power of Muslims) is Good, and whatever harms Islam (i.e. whatever diminishes Muslim power and profit) is Bad; that is, the definition of ultimate Good is - whatever suits Islam/ Muslims.

This is where the rubber hits the road.

So now these Somali workers are unemployed. Will they find another gainful employment straightaway or languish on government handouts for the foreseeable future? Who will give them a reference and what will they say when asked by any potential employer why they left their previous job? Will they make the same demands of their future employers?

muslims keep pushing the envelope until they get their way, when this level of islamisation is reached, they push a bit more, then more again.

islam is completely at odds with Western work ethics and practicing muslim will never have complete loyalty to the company he works for or the country he happens to live in.

muslims must never be given an inch, if we want to preserve our traditions and not see them replaced by arabic values.

hay hers m rages email MAdow@msn.com maybe we should politely point out to him its majority rule in this county and the only minority's that really get a break are the disabled

NO special accommodations, ever, for Muslims. One accommodation begets another, then another, then it's the slippery slope from there. It's Islam's grand strategy, otherswise known as "stealth jihad", and it appears to be working in the United Kingdon. It's an absolutely scary situation there. But here in the States, we American, lovers and protectors of liberty, freedom, and the humane -Islam is a virtually inhumane social system and ideology- are getting wise to what it is these sub-humans' are up to. I personally thrust not a single Muslim, which is sad, I admit. But, those Muslims who aren't personnaly causing problems like those with Swift -recall the Six Imams story?-, or aren't blowing up things and murdering, are not speaking out against any of those behaviors. To me that silence is collusin.

Atten: Aussies & Canucks!

Does anybody know who these people are? I'm looking for some background info.

http://sheikyermami.com/2008/09/18/who-are-these-people/

You know the e-mail, thanks!

"JBS values its diverse workforce and has a long track record of making significant accommodations to employees," the statement said.

Um, why?

I thought this nation's moto was E Plurbus Unum, or in english, From many, one.

These people should work on becoming Americans and the Swift people should be teaching them that.

Valuing "diversity" is just stuck on stupid and could lead to our ruin as a country.

... two women, one 19 and another in her 40s, and a 20-year-old man fainted during the commotion because they had gone so long without food ...

What drama ... oh please!! There should be violins going for them in the background, except music is forbidden.

Swift said in a statement that the company is working to resolve the issues that have arisen.

Boycitt Swift!
Swift can thank the White House and State Department and whoever else Swift made campaign contribtions to.

This fits the pattern that is apparent in many other countries in the world. Once enough Muslims group together, the ideology begins to trigger problems, then violence. Certain aspects of Islam MUST change. The world will not be rid of these issues until these changes are adopted worldwide. This will require open, offensive warfare.

Once again, if the managers of the Nebraska plant and been informed about the events at the Colorado plant, this whole controversy could have been avoided. As it is, Swift will probably lose at both locations in the impending lawsuits for breach of contract.

PS...

"Mohamed Rage, who leads the Omaha Somali-American Community Organization, said..."

Muhammad Rage? A Muslim name fitting for the ages.

"This will require open, offensive warfare".
Posted by: joe-six-pack

Failing that, a serious talking to!

Im glad they were denied this special treatment. I cant even get time off for Good Friday..why shoud their demands be catered to?

To me that silence is collusin.

Posted by: smoothlee at September 20, 2008 6:17 AM

"Silence implies consent."

That's why the so-called "moderate Muslims" are silent. They are covert sympathizers of the Grand Jihad, or Islamic World Hegemony.

What we are witnessing are the reasons why islam stagnates countries. Their work ethics are not there.

The thing that bothers me about these morons - are they future welfare pukes? If they cannot work because they cannot adopt - they really do need to be exported. I don't like knee jerk reactions to 'just send them back', or those kinds of rants, but we don't need more able bodied welfare recipients.

Islamizing American industries is ultimately a lost cause for the Umma, the Ikhwan, and their allies. Any court rulings in their favor are likely to be Pyrrhic victories. Backlash, Muslim surlyness and nonproductivity will squeeze Muslims out of the workforce. They would be better off in Socialized Europe, where subsidized, nonproductive religiosity might be tolerated. Let them go to Sweden.

(Imagine the brazen gall--dare I say, chutzpah, of these imam-ridden Islamizers.)

in order to assure that all is peaceful, the mosque will now have to begin work to change the clock to a more lunar focus and modify the calendar so that all these rites and festivities can be observed without causing a rage among the nonbelievers. get the business community up to speed.

make sure your Reps are informed of this, so that they can forumlate the necessary laws of accomodation. get Congress working.

so then, what little changes needed to bring about supremacist doctrine are being brought to our consciousness in nearly every State. the interfaith folk have something to celebrate at the id festival. just don't mention that this is jihad.

make loud your complaints about all this or learn to butcher goats and sheep cause unless we get noisier, we'll be overcome.

So, it appears the long overdue backlash against Islam begins, although not quite to the degree of physical backlash that CAIR and other anti-American Islamic apologists would have you believe.

Visual reports online:

KPTM FOX 42 video report has Police Chief Steve Lamken stating they responded to 'a disturbance'.

KHAS-TV 5 reports:

"Employees arriving tonight at JBSwift and COmpany are greeted by members of the Grand Island Police Department. Authorities say it is just a precautionary measure. This is what things looked like outside the Swift Plant outside around three this afternoon . About a half dozen police cars including members of the Grand Island Police Dept., Hall Country Sherrifs office and the Nebraska State Patrol, even a canine unit was on hand. Authorities say they wanted to be prepared just in case some sort of violence broke out. Last night police were called to the plant when some muslim workers started shouting, demanding prayer time, [??] turned violent. Union reps tell News 5, after the disturbance about 60 to 80 muslim employees walked off the job. The Union says they quit and will not be allowed back. However, a leader within the Somali community says that number is actually much higher. It says those workers did not quit. He says they were fired. Mohammed Rage with the Omaha Somali American community organization says 150 muslim employees have been terminated. He says 80 were fired last night and another 70 were fired when they didn't show up for work this afternoon. Swift isn't commenting on how many workers have quit or been fired but the company did release a statement addressing the issue. Swift says:

"We have had incidents of employees walking off the floor or leaving the plant without authorization . . .this is a direct violation of company policy . . .it puts a burden on the employees still working on the line."

Problems started Monday at Swift when some 300 muslim employees walked off the job after not being allowed to pray. The workers wanted the time to pray during the holy month of ramadan. The company agreed to switch around break times to accomodate the muslim prayer. That angered other workers who claimed the switch took time and money from their paychecks. Hundreds of those employees then walked off the job in a counter protest. Swift sided with those workers and switched breaks back to their original schedule yesterday.

Mohamed Rage . . .

I love the name, but it seems redundant.

Susanp,

"Why are these people in the United States? Who is responsible for bringing them here?"

They are a result of ill-conceived immigration policies beginning 40 years ago. This was a scheme originating with liberal Democrats including Ted Kennedy. In recent years cheap labor lobby Republicans, such as Bush and McCain have latched onto this policy. A sane country would ship the fired cohort and their relatives back to Somalia. Instead they will end up leeching off of the American taxpayers on welfare.

If I were a CEO in charge of Swift I would not hire one single Muslim ever again, and I would replace all fired Muslims, with non-Muslims.

DDA,
I am in full accord with what you say but we have a problem.

Swift values its "diverse" workforce. They're likely to hire more Muslims in an effort to prove to themselves and to CAIR that the Somalis were just bad apples.
If Swift's hiring practices resulted in Muslims being consistently turned down for employment then the Justice Department or the EEOC could bring action against SWIFT.
There are also oodles of civil rights lawyers who would salivate at the prospect of taking the Somalis' case and showing that Swift failed to make "reasonable" accommodations.
Before you know it, shift times or durations will be modified to allow Muslims to fulfill their religious obligations. Everyone will have the same hours, in order to avoid any hint of favoritism. It will just be a coincidence that those are the hours most favorable to the practice of Islam.

You want to come here? Fine, you are welcome. But you must accommodate yourself to OUR system, to OUR beliefs. If this bothers you, by all means, keep moving to some other nation. It is wrong to expect us to contort ourselves to accommodate immigrants' beliefs and practices.

All of these instances (Minneapolis Cabbies, footbaths, demands for preferential religious accommodation at work, etc.) need to be a part of a possible national dialogue about Islam in America.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022771.php

But before most of our elected officials will address the issue in public, Ma and Pa America needs to know what Islam really teaches and they need to understand that Islamic ideology differs so substantially from our own that it actually conflicts with our Constitution and relevant American laws.

Until the American public learns the truth (not what they're getting at fast-a-thons) they will NOT force members of the congress to engage in a long overdue national dialogue on this issue.

"The company agreed to switch around break times to accomodate the muslim prayer. That angered other workers who claimed the switch took time and money from their paychecks.

That should be Muslim prayers, plural. They make it sound like once a shift, the Muslims wanted to take two minutes to say a prayer, when, after proper 'wudu', it would have taken considerably more time, and have been multiple events.

The real workers "claimed" it would take time and money from their paychecks?

"CLAIMED"? This is hardly a mathematical theorum which requires ten blackboards and thirty pounds of chalk, to prove. All it takes is a damned calculator and two minutes, if that long!

And the company "sided" with "those workers"? Well, yeah--Because they found they weren't going to get away with it, not because they were biased in favor of the real workers.

On the contrary, this began in a company bias toward the Muslims, for the sake of its "diversity" image.

In addition to the subject of Islam, this is also a matter of property/ownership/contractual rights, which have been curtailed severely in the past several decades.
Bottom line: if the Islamists want their own prayer rights, start their own company.
Of course, being that Islamic prayers would likely be subversive, let them establish their own company elsewhere.
Next to bottom line: be nice to cows.

From daylight till dusk is not a fast.
I do that a lot on fishing trips, etc.
40 days is a fast.
"Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. {2} And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungered..." (Mat 4:1-2)

Bottom line: if the Islamists want their own prayer rights, start their own company.

In theory, not possible in the United States though there are a growing number of cases where corporations are pandering to the Muslim "culture" at the expense of the non-muslim majority. If memory serves me right, and anyone please remind us of the exact details if I get it wrong here, there was a case in Florida where a muslim owned company forbade the consumption of non-halal food in the employee lunch room that resulted in a non-muslim getting fired because she ate a piece of pepperoni pizza on her lunch break.

Islam is apparently making a push for special rights in 2008 with American workers pushing back.What do you think the Hispanic, African-American, Caucasian and Vietnamese workers at Swift think of the Islam now?

The Muslims who left their stations without authorization, abandoned their jobs. The company has every right to lock them out and fire them as their union head noted. The Muslims having quit their jobs are not eligible for unemployment. As refugees they are not supposed to be eligible for welfare as refugees are not to become a burden on the American taxpayer.Even if they were eligible for welfare, welfare is now tied to work and is time limited. I think the best solution is to deport undesirables back to their home countries (as has happened before) or to any Islamic country that will have them.

Sarcens,

I do know that in Orthodox Jewish nursing homes employees are not allowed to bring non-Kosher food onto the premises. Kosher meals are supplied to employees by the Nursing home. Of course potential employees know of these restrictions and can choose not to work at a Orthodox nursing home. In contrast Somali Muslims are accepting jobs knowing that they will not be able to complete their evening prayer. The Muslims also seek religious "accommodation" at the expense of the non-Muslim employees who are not only inconvenienced but lose 0.7 hours each day in wages.That is a clear violation of Federal law as religious "accommodation" can not be at the expense of other employees.

There is something wonderfully Machiavellian about what Swift's management did. We all know that companies will find a way to get rid of problem employees which is what the Somali Muslims had become.It seems to me that Swift had grown tired of the Muslims and their demands and that they managed to turn all of the other employees against them. It was other employees who reported the Muslims when they abandoned their posts and their union rep has contradicted them saying the Muslims quit and were not fired.

What are the odds that Muslim employees at Swift are NOT adulterating some of the food they handle, out of spite and righteous rage? Conclusion: Don't buy Swift products, even if the company finds a compromise solution that all sides accept. Let Swift learn, from a decline in its profit, that the prayer-accommodation problem is secondary to the primary problem: the employment of those Somalis in the first place. Moreover, we may be sure that Swift's competitors are watching this episode, with an eye to their own bottom line.

I noticed that Dan Hoppes had said something much different than the S(ob)omalis. He has positioned the union as not representing these workers. This is good because he see's something that can't be seen on the face of it. My guess is that he wishes the union to be seen as having no part of this beyond "reasonable accommodations" for the prayer time.

Maybe the Somalis would feel better doing goats.

First off I don't buy that anyone fainted. Going without food for roughly 12 hours is not going to induce one to faint. And since this is a meat processing plant, it isn't 100 degrees. I do believe they are allowed to drink water, so dehydration isn't a problem. If they choose not to drink, so sad, too bad, you cad. There has been ample evidence that the body can go without food for a heck of a lot longer than the mere 12 hours the muslims go through. Water is the critical issue. So, there was no fainting, in the true sense. I wouldn't doubt some acting, but nothing real.

Overall this whole deal is a bunch of crapola. These problems with the Somali muslims is clearly a case of unintended consequences. I wish our government and charities were more cognizant of thinking before acting. Maybe I am asking too much.

I wish our government and charities were more cognizant of thinking before acting. Maybe I am asking too much.

Posted by: Kevin at September 20, 2008 12:46 PM

here is what your government did:
http://www.blessedcause.org/proof/Clinton%20Embracing%20Islam%20selling%20out%20children.htm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56237

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/09/20080917-11.html

... and continues:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/09/images/20080919-1_d-0143-7-515h.html

A agree with Kevin...Missing lunch, even for numerous days in a row is not likely to make anyone faint.

I think these people who pass out are professional swooners. Rentaswooner. I don't doubt that these passer outers were the very same swooners who swooned at Obama rallys.
You hear no more reports about Obama swooners because the benefit has been used up, and the swooners have been reassigned...to the Swift plant...

They should not have the job if they refuse to adhere to company policies, all company policies.

These people were just too difficult to work with.

Their demands were made with no consideration for their non-Islamic co-workers, as usual.

STOP HIRING THEM!!!

Mohamed Rage, who leads the Omaha Somali-American Community Organization..

Mohammed Rage - now thats a proper Muslim name.

Somalis are despised throughout East Africa. They are involved in all manner of illegal actvities. Drug dealing, and consuming khat, is part of the culture, just as recourse to the knife. P J O'Rourke in one of his travel books, mentions of the depraved nature of Somalis.

So here we are. Our idiot political masters have allowed in millions of Somalis to enrich us even more. This enrichement is going to kill us all.

PRCS, here for instance, is the state of our "national dialogue about Islam in America".

1) An episode of This American Life from Chicago Public Radio (yes, I know; not unexpected but - very indicative), episode #340, "The Devil in Me", Act One:

'Act One. And So We Meet Again.

Sam Slaven is an Iraq War veteran who came home from the War plagued by feelings of hate and anger toward Muslims. TAL producer Lisa Pollak tells the story of the unusual action Sam took to change himself, and the Muslim students who helped him do it. (34 minutes)'

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=1259

This feel-good story outlines how an American vet deals with his PTSS by immersing himself in a local Muslim Student Association, whereupon he learns to separate the Iraqis/Muslims "over there" and those "over here". Because, you see, those Muslims shooting at him in Iraq were the "crazies" that every religion spawns occasionally. Don't you see? And we would all benefit from such immersion-therapy to rid ourselves of our anti-Islamic thoughts, BTW.

Right?

2. The September issue of the The Reader's Digest, in a story on "hats", includes a ditty on a hijabed girl in Turkey who is shown protesting the secular government's ban on religious headscarves at universities. Her pluck (as Hugh would say) is subtly extolled, and of course we Westerners are admonished (via a quoted adult), "They're better off honoring a woman's right to choose than trying to impose their prejudices on Muslims."

Drip. Drip. Drip.

One could go on and on (there should be a repository on DW for these "little signs" in American life) noting these things, should one be so inclinded.

It is not a hopeful conversation we're having.

I live in Omaha and had no clue we even had such a group as the Somali-American Community Organization.

I'll have to keep an eye on that.

But seriously, folks, let's be tolerant. After all, these peaceful religionists are just doing the jobs illegal immigrants won't do!

PMK, you're wrong. You can absolutely selecively discriminate against Muslims, particularly FOB from Somalia Muslims, not on the basis of their fascist cult affiliation, but on the basis of who they are and their background. You can ask them in job interviews whether they unconditionally accept the terms of their employment and if they don't, or if their actions contradict their pledge after having been hired...the boot. You can cite a lack of references or legitimate work experience. You can ask them if they unconditionally respect the authority of female and homosexual superiors and the equality of their female and homosexual counterparts to the extent that they will unconditionally treat them with civility and if they don't...the boot. You can refuse to hire anyone for any job if they don't have a high school diploma, if they have an Islamic school diploma (i.e., they studied only language (useless, unproductive, phonetically violent Arabic), math, and the Koran), or if they were educated in the 3rd World period. You can refuse to hire someone who doesn't speak English as this burdens the employer. You can fire anyone who demonstrates insubordination. There are lots of legitimate ways of keeping monsters like these out of the workforce and for weeding them out once they infiltrate it. Note that Mexicans meet any of the expected criteria: respect for others, for superiors, for women and gays, legitimate education (a Mexican 1st-grade education or even home-schooling trumps a PhD from anywhere in the Muslim world any day - they know the Earth is round), and they pick up English quickly and if they don't there's always a bilingual around so it doesn't burden the employer. You can refuse to hire someone for having a slovenly appearance or for being so stupid that they think the earth is flat and that the sun sets in a muddy puddle after revolving around the earth all day. There really is absolutely no reason to hire people like this for any job under any circumstances.

So now these Somali workers are unemployed. Will they find another gainful employment straightaway or languish on government handouts for the foreseeable future? Who will give them a reference and what will they say when asked by any potential employer why they left their previous job? Will they make the same demands of their future employers?

You know who will find them jobs. The same people who lobbied to bring them here, to settle them in a town, and for Swift to hire them: the Muslim Brotherhood by way of front organizations like the Somali-American Community Organization, which are front organizations for the Ikhwan's front organizations. They are a tribal cult. That's why they stick together as a tribe and all move on together, and always have a leader or a system of leaders, 'elders' who tell them where to go and what to do so the little sheep don't walk right off the edge of the mountain. If 150 or 80 of them leave, they all leave. Mark my word. We'll be hearing another report like this in a year and it will be the same people. And they're not hired as individuals. These 'elders' and their Muslim Brotherhood labor-union go-betweens get them hired en masse. They probably make up new identities every time they move. They did it the first time back in Somalia to get moved to Kenya, then they most likely came here by scamming the US by claiming to have been enslaved even though the only slaves in Kenya are Bantus. Somalis are notorious for pulling that crap, and it's not like they ever have any new tricks up their sleeves.

And Trollhammer, the Mexicans apparently, by the sound of the report, comprise 80% of the plant's employees. I can guarantee you they would mind the job far less if they didn't have to work with Somalis.

I've been expected to work too many Good Fridays, Easters and Christmases to have the least bit of sympathy for anyone over Ramadan. When my company allows me to pray Matins, Prime, Sext, Nones, Vespers, and Compline I then will feel the need to defend the right of Muslims to pray during work.

Keep on firing the rest of the tribe. please and send all of them back to their country where they will be able to work and pray when they feel like it.
Hats off to the one with Swift who decided to fire those hard working people

Keep on firing the rest of the tribe. please and send all of them back to their country where they will be able to work and pray when they feel like it.
Hats off to the one with Swift who decided to fire those hard working people

The Employee has the right to take a job that does not conflict with their Religious belief.

The Employee does not have the right to take a Job and force the Employer to comply with it.

Swift should be pro-active in denying these people unemployment benefits.

I can't help but wonder if they prayed before their riot. Poor dears were dropping like flies from hunger but when they didn't get their prayer break, they had enough stamina to wreak havoc on company property. It's obvious that these people are schooled in histrionics, a useful talent when combined with their innate islamic deceit and fanatacism. I'm guessing that Swift curses the day they hired them, probably under immense pressure.

I go without food many days from the time I get up in the morning until dinner around seven. I often work in my yard all day in the Georgia heat and humidity and I have never fainted or even come close to it. Muslims are lazy and irresponsible when it comes to work. They reserve all of their energy and enthusiasm for islam because after all, it pays the bills and puts food on table. Allah wouldn't want his "best of people" working in an infidel factory that won't conform to the islamic schedule. Better they should just demand their rightful jizya, let the "leaders" handle the law suits to fatten C.A.I.R.'s bank account, and amuse themselves mutilating the genitals of their prepubescent girls on their kitchen tables.

Maybe we weak backbending sucks in the USA can learn a lesson from Australia?

http://www.realguns.com/Commentary/comar130.htm

First off, Islam is a complete political doctrine & should NOT get any religious freedoms that are given to other religions. Best though if ALL three of the desert dogma's with their "death" god is put on the book shelf with old Greek myths & retired.

If muslims continue to PUSH, don't they expect that reasonable people are not going to push back?

One would think that Somalians would be grateful to America for giving them a new start. Their lives could hardly have been easy groveling in the dust of a war zone.
To echo many others, perhaps it is time that food producers should re-think their policy of employing Muslims because of the threat of product contamination during processing. Cheap Somalian labour could become very expensive in the long run.

Somali Muslims do not want to appreciate the great things that America offers...they want to turn America into Somalia...

jdamn,

"You can ask them in job interviews whether they unconditionally accept the terms of their employment and if they don't, or if their actions contradict their pledge after having been hired...the boot."

This is very different from seeing a Muslim name on a job application and automatically setting it aside. If they tell you they accept the terms then you hire them. Their actions later might expose them to being fired but that isn't the issue upfront.

"You can refuse to hire anyone for any job if they don't have a high school diploma, if they have an Islamic school diploma (i.e., they studied only language (useless, unproductive, phonetically violent Arabic), math, and the Koran), or if they were educated in the 3rd World period."

Then how do they justify hiring the Mexican immigrants, many of whom don't speak English, and not hiring the Muslims? Both were educated in the third world. Hire one and not the other? It's discrimination.

You can cite a lack of references or legitimate work experience.

Same as above. If this is your justification for not hiring someone then you can't hire Mexican immigrants and not Muslim immigrants.

Nothing STOPS you from doing it but just remember it opens you up to charges of discrimination. You are interviewing two employees who have similar life, education and work experience and you consistently choose one group over the other. There has to be a justifiable reason. It's not here.

When muslims fast for Ramadam, they do not drink water during the fast. Some won't even swallow their spit. That is why some are weak near the end of the fast. Which is a good reason not to hire muslims. What if they fainted on the production line?

They get hired because they have 'leaders' who tell them exactly what to say to get hired.

Why don't they leave Somolia and go to a country nearby? Because there are people over there promising them a better life in the US.

And how do they get to the US in the first place? The Catholic Charities is the biggest importer. Followed by other Christian organizations trying to save the world.

If you want to write a letter of complaint, send it to THEM.

The Employee does not have the right to take a Job and force the Employer to comply with it. flower_knife

You would think that wouldn't you? The US gov't seems to step in and prove that incorrect.

How did we get so many Somali's in this country?

Try the State Department's Refugee Resettlement program:

http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/how-did-we-get-so-many-somali-refugees-the-numbers-are-telling/

What Islam Is NOT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8789NMWZ9EI