So far, unfortunately, they appear to be right. "Pakistan: Elderly Christian killed in axe murder," from Compass Direct News, September 4:
ISTANBUL, September 4 (Compass Direct News) – Four Pakistani Muslims killed an elderly woman with an axe over a dispute with her husband, who has been unable to prosecute them due to his low social status as a Christian.
Case workers said the alleged culprits targeted the couple for theft and later murder because they believed Pakistan’s legal system would not prosecute them for murdering Christians. The suspects’ connections to mafia and national politicians further emboldened them, they said.
“The Muslims assume the Christians are sheep and don’t have any weight,” said Sohail Johnson, case worker and chief coordinator of Sharing Life Ministry Pakistan (SLMP), a Non-Governmental Organization that supports Christian prisoners throughout the Punjab province. “The culprits thought, ‘[The Christians] have no voice. Nothing will happen if we do something,’” he said.
Noban Bibi, 65, was killed on July 2 in Pakistan’s eastern Kasur province in the village of Khraper.
The dispute that led to her murder started in January, when two men stole money and gold items from the couple.
According to a First Instance Report, Yaqoob Shareef and Hadayat Ali broke into the house of Dara Masih, 85, while his wife was away in Lahore. They stole gold ornaments and 15,000 Pakistan rupees (US$200).
Masih demanded they return the stolen goods or he would prosecute them. The alleged culprits then began threatening to kill him.
On July 2 at 2:30 a.m. Shareef, Ali, and two unknown persons entered their house and killed Bibi with a pickaxe.
An autopsy obtained by Compass said Bibi had multiple lacerations on her head, some nearly four inches long.
Johnson of SLMP said the alleged culprits believed they wouldn’t be prosecuted due to their connections to politicians and mafia.
Shareef, 36, and Ali, in his late 20s, are members of a criminal organization and have connections with local and national politicians that they are using to leverage the criminal justice system, said Shazhad Kamran, an SLMP case worker.
“In Pakistan, politicians always need criminals to assert their power in an area,” Kamran said. “They always depend on criminals, and criminals depend on politicians to save them.”
Bribery and ‘Dissimulation’
Masih nevertheless registered the murder with the local police. He could not convince local police officer Muhammad Akram to arrest Shareef and Ali, according to an SLMP report, because Akram received a bribe requiring him to threaten Masih to drop charges against them.
Masih then took the case to a district police officer in Kasur, who arrested Ali and Sharif. The two suspects, however, have not been formally prosecuted.
When the SLMP’s Johnson and Kamran approached Sub-Inspector Aslam Pistooly and Investigation Officer Malik Mansab Ali on Aug. 2, Pistooly claimed the two suspects were not guilty. To prove this, he said the accused would swear an oath of innocence in front of prominent Muslims at a mosque, the report said.
Johnson and Kamran refused the offer for the suspects to do so, stating that swearing an oath at a mosque is not a part of Pakistani criminal investigation proceedings.
Pistooly then became angry and told Johnson and Kamran, “If you are not satisfied that Muslims will go into the mosque and swear they are innocent, then if you can go into the church, put your hand on the Bible, and swear they are guilty, then I will make legal action against him,” according to Johnson.
Speaking by telephone from Kasum, Investigation Officer Ali, who was at the Aug. 2 meeting, said swearing an oath in a mosque as proof of innocence is illegal under Pakistani criminal law. Asked if Pistooly had asked the culprits to testify in a mosque, he told Compass he could not confirm it.
“I have not compelled any person to swear an oath in a mosque, and Pakistani law does not permit it,” he said through a translator.
The SLMP case workers said the Muslim suspects wanted to swear an oath at the mosque to take advantage of an Islamic tradition that allows accused men to give false testimony when under threat.
Known as Al Taqiyya (dissimulation), this concept allows Muslims to conceal the truth at a time of danger to save themselves from physical or mental injury. In some traditions, Al Taqiyya can only be used when one is wrongfully accused....
Pakistan, then, is a souless, decaying society; evil metastasizes within it. Islam is a social structure founded upon sand. Just like one of two houses in parable.
No matter where they swear to tell the truth, they will lie anyway.
From article: Known as Al Taqiyya (dissimulation), this concept allows Muslims to conceal the truth at a time of danger to save themselves from physical or mental injury. In some traditions, Al Taqiyya can only be used when one is wrongfully accused....
Hmm it seems to be used a lot in trying to explain away the inequities of Islam.
I guess concealing the truth of Islam saves them from mental injury...muslims seem to have a lot of those...
"Shareef, 36, and Ali, in his late 20s, are members of a criminal organization"
Right, the criminal organizations is called ISLAM.
Why, why, why is any Christian-majority state pouring any kind of official 'aid' at all, into a country as corrupt, chaotic, wicked and cruel as Pakistan, where all non-Muslims are regularly treated as all-purpose chew toys and punching bags, as THINGS, to be used, and abused, without conscience, without pity?
Over time, I have accumulated a file which I call, for want of a better title: "Nasty Muslim Texts".
Here's one that applies, in spades, to this incident.
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 283:
' Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
'I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well."
'I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."
Got that? - 'the judgement that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel' (whereas, of course, killing a pious MUSLIM would incur the death penalty).
And here is Tabari, the earliest Muslim historian:
Tabari Bk IX:69 -
“Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger.
'We fight people until they believe in Allah.
'He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. {Note that this implies that all non-Muslims' lives and property are Designated Prey...dda}.
' As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah.
'Killing him is a small matter to us.”
There it is. Dara Masih (85) and his wife Noban Bibi (65) were Christians. Therefore: their lives and their possessions were NOT protected. And the killing of this 65 year old, defenceless old woman, in order to punish her husband for having had the audacity to attempt to obtain justice for the crime committed against him, was indeed 'a small matter' to her Muslim murderers.
One must remember that historically, throughout the Islamosphere, no non-Muslim was ever permitted to defend themselves against a Muslim attack or crime of any kind, and thus any non-Muslim could be assaulted, raped, robbed or killed by Muslims with absolute impunity; if they dared to try to take the criminal to court, all the Muslim had to do was to deny the charge, since the word of a Muslim automatically trumped that of a kafir.
Sharia seems to be designed to allow psychopaths and sociopaths to indulge all their ugliest desires with unlimited license so long as they do it upon officially designated Prey.
So, these holy guys stole her posessions, then stole her life.
How on earth does anyone take a pickaxe to another human being, for any reason other than defense of self or family?
Think of it--In America, this is the stuff of which horror fiction is made. Blood, brain matter, bone chips from the skull... How does anyone do these things, and not have nightmares for the rest of his life?
I don't think a human being can do so. I think such is the privelege of monsters.
From dumbledoresarmy:
Bull's eye! Give the lady a cigar!
As near as I can tell, mohammedanism is fundamentally amoral by any rational standard.
It appears to be a codification of the most base and brutal power relations as a "moral" standard -- with no recognition of the value of the individual, human rights, freedom or reason.
Anything goes. Pedophilia, rape, theft, dishonesty, even murder (as you say above) as long as it's within the boundaries set by the rulers and the collective.
I'm at a complete loss for words.....
joeblough - you observed, of sharia," It appears to be a codification of the most base and brutal power relations as a "moral" standard".
John Quincy Adams agrees. Here's part of what he wrote about Islam, in one of a group of classic essays on matters Islamic that deserve to be re-printed (pamphlet form) and circulated, as anti-jihad samizdat, the length and breadth of the western world (and beyond it, suitably translated into, say, Hindi and Thai and Tagalog and Amharic and Chinese and Russian):
“In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab [i.e. Mohammed] of the lineage of Hagar the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth.
"Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle.
"Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion.
"He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy;
"and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind.
"THE ESSENCE OF HIS [Mohammed's] DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Adam's capital letters)…".
On page 269 of John Quincy Adams, “Unsigned essays dealing with the Russo-Turkish War, and on Greece, written while JQA was in retirement, before his election to Congress in 1830”
[Chapters X-XIV - pp. 267-402 - in The American Annual Register for 1827-28-29. New York, 1830.].