Even though the latter did not cross into Pakistan's airspace. Yet another Friend-and-Ally Update.
"NATO says Pakistani troops fired at their chopper," from AP, September 25 (thanks to jcb):
KABUL, Afghanistan - NATO says Pakistani troops fired at their helicopters patrolling eastern Afghanistan, but no damage is reported.In a statement, NATO says its helicopters did not cross into Pakistan's airspace when they came under fire near Tanai district of Khost province.
The shooting follows a number of alleged incursions at the Pakistan-Afghan border in recent days. A drone believed to be operated by the CIA crashed inside Pakistan on Wednesday.
According to the original story, Pakistani "troops and tribesmen" shot it down.
NATO needs to take more aggresive steps towads those who harbour terrorists, aka Pakistan, shoot first questions later diplomacy, and finally cut off all aid to the Pak, their fellow rich muslim brothers the sauds can fill in the gap.
Cut off the aid packages...absolutely...and find a way to disable all those new jets they received..preferrably while they are on the ground..
Psych-ops should have the CIA launching dozens of recreatiomal radio controlled planes with many different country markings, across the border from many locations into Pakistan, especially when they are sending in a real drone.
(helps concentrate the mind, or drives the jihadi loving fools crazy)
(either will do)
i think that if you get a Pakistani army that fire on you, you blast them. i'm really saying nothing left of them. then we get our troops to lay down some ak-47, and we say the taliban did it. if they don't believe us, who cares?
I am so impressed with the support we get from our islamofacist friends in suckistan. What's next, only the foolish cannot figure it out. This country is no ally of ours at all. They only want our weapons and cash so they can and have and will be used against us. The idea of multiple radio controlled planes is a nice one, perhaps add a strip of bacon to each one or paint them to look like pigs and dogs to soothe rattled nerves on the border. If NATO gets shot at, shoot back and shoot back hard. NATO is almost as bad as the UN, pathetic, and horribly underarmed. NATO should be armed to the nines, especially in areas such as this so they can REALLY defend themselves.
There should be no limits on what arsenal NATO should have when dealing with the islamofacists. They stop at nothing and are ALWAYS trying obtain
WMD, if they do not have them already. Some say they do not have any WMD's and I disagree with that. The islamfacists are only watching and waiting for the best time and to get the highest causilty rate possible. There were too many small
WMD missing from the break up of Russia, let alone all the other wacko countries in the world.
If God had meant Man to fly, he would not have given the Pakistani Army anti-aircraft guns.........
Great idea with the drones. They should paint PAk and SOWdi flags on them. And fill them with pig fat so when they come to inspect after a shootdown they have something to snack on.
And then have a little bomb go up. Boobytrap the damn thing to ensure maximum spread of the pig fat.
That should discourage future attmepts.
But we, peace be upon us, can only supply NATO troops through pak. Stuff comes in to lahore and gets sent by truck to kabul. So they, may ZK be displeased with them, have us over a barrel there. So much for cutting off aid. Total war is a solution. The only other option is some kind of game like we, again peace be upon us as always, have been playing with them.
nabi ZK (pbum)
Wonder whether the NATO charter 'All for one and one for all' will kick in, and whether all NATO allies (including the new Eastern European allies like Poland, Latvia, et al) can come together and declare war on Pakistan? One thing is sure - this is one anti-Jihadi move the Russkies won't mind.
If not, then it will have been demonstrated that NATO has outlived its Cold War era purpose, and it's time for its dissolution, and eventual (once most countries get out of their PC mode about the threat of Islam) replacement by an anti-Islamic bloc of (preferably) democratic Infidel countries (read: Bosnia, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, et al not welcome).
Zk, there has to be another way to get stuff to Kabul. We could build an airstrip instead of wasting money on roads that enable the Taliban to move around better.
Cut off the aid packages...absolutely...and find a way to disable all those new jets they received..preferrably while they are on the ground..
pulsar182
The jets become disabled the second a Pakistani pilot climbs into the cockpit, so that one is easy.
Jihadists! Wait! Please! Don't shoot each other!
Here, use OUR troops instead! Here, will give you the guns, the bullets, the training, and lots of US dollars if you do!
/sarc_off
Why is that country NOT another smoking hole in the ground!?
Come on, Islam is a Religion of Peace! So ipso facto and quid pro quote, Pakistan is Pure Peace.
The USA Presidency & Congress won't do nutthin', they are busy nationalizing and yacht shopping.
Pakistan is not the only country in the region that should be transformed to a hole in the ground. That goes for Iran, Saudiarabia and Afghanistan as well. Islam is the greatest threat in our time and they can not be disabled without collateral damage. Mekka and Medina should also be taken out once and for all.
How to protect NATO aircraft from Jihadist attacks:
All aircraft (including drones) should carry onboard copies of their "holy" Qur'an in Arabic. No Allah-fearing death-cult member would knowingly take an action that would destroy their beloved war manual. Similar in theory to a "human shield", but this shield would consist of something the Jihadists actually valued.
Actually, this is an excellent development. We are finally having definite lines drawn in the sand to demarcate just who is for us and who against.
Hopefully the US Congress will now quickly approve more military aid to Pakistan, so that they can't complain about being out-gunned in firefights anymore. :P
After all, the Pakistanis have said they need more F16s to win this war.
Never mind that the AlQaeda and Taliban don't actually have an airforce to shoot at -- the US does.
We give them ten billion dollars a year and they shoot at us. Should we continue to give them ten billion dollars a year?
Glenn Beck rocks! I watch him every night religiously. He is very provocative, concerned about our nation and I would vote for him if he ever ran for the White House.
You should watch his daily program, 1 hour at 7: pm EST and repeated at 9: pm and 12: am. Remember, these are Eastern Standard time zones.
Glenn Beck is on Head Line News (HLN) sister channel to CNN and it is about three to five channels above or below where you find CNN channel on your TV system. Channel 202 on Dish net.
Guaranteed to fall in love with his program. If you do not fall in love with his program write me on JW addressing American. I read every posting.
Read between the lines. The timing to bomb is suspicious. It is just to please americans. For yrs, bush did not do nothing. Now they bomb few here and there. To avoid pak citizen anger,they are staging these drama. How many american soldiers died on these recent missions. Pak govt is told in advance of any mission.
This mutually agreed upon action by US & Pakistan is to help Maccain and take wind out of Obama's policy of attacking pakistan to go after Talib-Alquaeda once in office.
Look no one get hurts. Some drones are shot down but nothing confirmed. Today I read US & Pakistan exchange some flares and then both deny it. Who are they fooling. If US attacks tribal ares with full force, those hills will be blown apart and all Pathans with their burkha pathani-musallis will run to Rawalpindi!!
Meanwhile Zardari is in USA meeting Bush & Palim and declaring soverignity of Pakistan. . No diplomatic protests of anykind, Zardari did not threaten to go home. He appreciated boobs of Palin called her gorgeous!!! Give me break.