Not only is this Scotsman not jumping on the dhimmi-bandwagon of lavishly praising Muslims for Ramadan, his atheistic argument is a good reminder: if person X does not believe in religion Y, there is no logic in him kowtowing to it -- irrespective of who gets offended. Most importantly, however, he reveals that the money/jizya Scotland has been giving to the Scottish-Islamic Foundation has, since the revelation that the latter is affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, doubled.
"Islam akin to other faiths," from The Scotsman, September 5:
Humza Yousaf of the Scottish-Islamic Foundation (Letters, 4 September) does not believe in freedom of expression as he wishes to exempt Islam from critical analysis by claiming that to do so may cause offence to sacred beliefs.Millions of atheists, agnostics, sceptics, non-believers and followers of other gods simply do not accept the Islamic creation myths and, by implication, they cause offence to Muslims such as Mr Yousaf.
We are firmly of the view that Islam, like every other religion which has existed throughout human history, is not divine or sacred in origin, but is instead a man-made ideology.
We support the ideals of the 18th-century Scottish Enlightenment and the views of people such as David Hume and Adam Ferguson, who subjected religion to intense and critical scrutiny. If the Scottish-Islamic Foundation finds such scrutiny offensive to its sacred beliefs, we make no apology for this.
For the record, we have received not a single penny of taxpayers' money, unlike the Scottish-Islamic Foundation, which has received £400,000 from the SNP government. This is money which could have been used to help pay the fuel bills of poor Scots of all religions and none.
IAN STEWART
Convener, Atheist Scotland
Park Avenue
Dundee
Scots wha hae wi' Wallace -- or in this case, David Hume and Adam Ferguson -- bled.
Right on, Ian Stewart!
Comment #19 on that thread is quite good and #20 is... revealing.
Did you catch the spam comment which appears all over the Internet, posted by "Iftikhar"?
Oh yeah, they blend.
(emphasis mine)
(post probably cut off by Scotsman text limit)
I've seen this cut-n-paste everywhere. Notice the typical (and wrongful) appropriation of our legal terminology to suit the goals of Islamic supremacism, creeping sharia, and bigotry against all non-Muslims. And note further their can-do spirit when it comes to posting it in every forum in which the topic of Islam arises.
Josephine caught it. It's comment #20.
There's nothing like x-treme intolerance being clothed, however unadroitly, as tolerance. Fools leftist morons every time.
Tell me again what the point of Scottish self-determination and its own legislature was, since these Scottish politicians seem just as treasonous and dismissive of the Scottish people's will as the English.
Politicians need some codes to keep them on "the right path" (ours, not the Islamo-terrorists!!). May I suggest:
http://bravenewsworld.blogspot.com/2008/08/14-commandments-of-politics.html
Personally, I find it quite offputting when groups like these don't seem to be able to differentiate Islam from harmless religions. We can hardly cheer their indiscretion, without realizing we are targeted next.
I won't be listening to Pat Condell anymore, for example, since discovering his rants about Christianity to be not substantively different, and nearly interchangeable with his rants about Islam. They are all in the same category as Rosie O'Donnell; they don't actually get it. They are only amusing, and that only when all you hear is the part you agree with. I appreciate that JW is a big tent, but supporting groups and individuals like these is no different than the U.S. support of Pakistan, a pretty sorry, back-stabbing ally.
And if the "Atheist Scotland" finds such scrutiny offensive to his "sacred" beliefs, I make no apology for this.
max publis said
Tell me again what the point of Scottish self-determination and its own legislature was, since these Scottish politicians seem just as treasonous and dismissive of the Scottish people's will as the English.
max look at the make up of the scottish legislature
its like the old days when lairds in scotland had as many english titles and lands as they did scotish so like today there was no intresest among te rulers in a Independent Scotland
I agree with much of what Ian Stewart says. Every religion should be open to scrutiny, ridicule and condemnation. This is especially true when the name of a religion is incorparated into a political party. Islam is of course a political party.
The only thing I disagree with the author is his assertion about the "Scottish enlightenment" as if the Scots are somehow special and had their own enlightenment. They are not and they did not.
Since Our Hugh, Himself, has mentioned David Hume, here is what David Hume had to say on the subject of Islam, and Islamic ethics or lack thereof, in a splendidly lapidary paragraph, originally unearthed and shared by a poster here on jihadwatch:
"But would we know, whether the pretended prophet [Mohammed] had really attained a just sentiment of morals?
"Let us attend to his narration; and we shall soon find, that he bestows praise on such instances of treachery, inhumanity, cruelty, revenge, bigotry, as are utterly incompatible with civilized society.
"No steady rule of right seems there to be attended to; and every action is blamed or praised, so far only as it is beneficial or hurtful to the true believers."
- David Hume (1711-1776) "Of the Standard of Taste: Paragraph 4" (1757)
http://www.mnstate.edu/gracyk/courses/phil%20of%20art/hume%20on%20taste.htm#p4
- Posted by: Rublev at September 4, 2004 1:17 PM
Much thanks to 'Rublev' for discovering and sharing this gem, which deserves to be much more widely known and reflected upon, especially in Mr Hume's native Scotland.
I think you mean:
Subjecting the whole of humanity to Islam..."is a fundamental and inalienable human right that should be available to all people irrespective of their ethnicity or religious background."
Islam deserves equal rights; including the right to subject non-Muslims and non-Islamic cultures to Islam.
All religions should be open to scrutiny...except for our beloved Spencerdanism, the assorted revelations given to us by our Unholy Antiprophet Robert Spencer (published bestsellers upon him). Faliure to comply will lead to beaheading or worst of all the deletion of your account.
Resistance is futile
All religions should be open to scrutiny...except for our beloved Spencerdanism, the assorted revelations given to us by our Unholy Antiprophet Robert Spencer (published bestsellers upon him). Faliure to comply will lead to beaheading or worst of all the deletion of your account.
Resistance is futile