An update on this story. "Plant Rejects Muslim Employees' Requests to Meet Prayer Needs," from the Associated Press, September 18:
GRAND ISLAND, Nebraska — Managers at a Nebraska meatpacking plant have told Muslim employees, most of them Somali, that shift changes made to meet their prayer demands weren't working and would be ended.
Union president Dan Hoppes said Thursday that the workers reacted well to the news, but he didn't know whether they would walk out later in protest as they did Monday.
He and managers at the JBS Swift & Co. plant are still talking about meeting employee needs and maintaining plant production.
Workers were sitting down with managers for discussions before the second shift started Thursday afternoon.
Counterprotests by non-Muslim workers began Wednesday. They said the shift changes penalized them while favoring the Muslim workers.
Really?? How nice a shake, for once if it holds up. If the disgruntled islamic workers complain or protest perhaps telling them that they have been fired and will be replaced with non-muslim workers who do not act like spoiled brats when they do not get their way. Of course the aclu and cair would go to bat for these poor, misunderstood
workers who will want footbaths and halal vending machines in the break room next. I am surprised the muslim workers have not complained about the clothes or having to wash on a regular basis. Makes no sense to change something that affects the entire plant does it? Never satisfied, they will always DEMAND more and more. Sound familiar?
"Man the watchtowers and remain vigilant, for those who slumber on their watch will not wake to see the dawnn." We should see this as another warning and threat to the very foundations that this land was founded on!
"Counterprotests by non-Muslim workers began Wednesday. They said the shift changes penalized them while favoring the Muslim workers."
Thank god some people are realising that the favoritism shown towards Muslims and their appeasement is often punishing the non-Muslims into being forced to accomodate while no one gives a rat's ass about non-Muslims.
If the Muslims can't assimilate to a decent degree like other non-Christian groups have in the west, then maybe its time for the Muslims to leave.
You never see any of us Hindus asking to do our worship in the middle of the workforce. We leave religion at home and work is work.
Ayo Gorkhali
Good for them for holding the line. As I've said many times, the main answer to the relentless Islamic political encroachment is NO MORE CONCESSIONS TO ISLAM.
Period.
As we can all see, "Islamophobia" works!
(sarc)
By law religious accommodation cannot be at the expense of other employees.This accommodation for Ramadan lead to greater inconvenience and lost wages for non-Muslims, a clear violation of federal law.This is why we have separation of church and state and why religion should remain in the home or the church and out of the public square.This also points to the difference between Muslims and other religious groups. What most people will do if there is a conflict between their job and their religion is to first try to work out a compromise privately and if that does not work then they will find other employment.One example is Jehovah's Witnesses who have five meetings a week, with three of those meetings occurring during the week.People who work second shift will have trouble attending these meetings. Most will try to work out a compromise with their employers or will attempt to switch days with other employees.Those that consider the meetings very important will usually seek other employment. When was the last time you heard of a JW suing for days off or demanding that other employees work in his place? Incidents like this serve to education the public about the true nature of Islam.
The most significant part of this story is that the AP actually picked it up. I hate that they still haven't realized that there is no compromise and are still negotiating, no doubt with CAIR. Even if they don't say so, and even if they deny collaborating with 'Muslim groups,' to which they outright admit anyway, CAIR or some other Hamas front has obviously infiltrated their labor union. This was obvious from day one with that Osman guy, no doubt straight out of Egypt. There is no compromise. That's why religious accomodation in the workplace does not exist in practice. Never has. That's how time works. That's how civil rights work. That's how physics work.
Roxane, Muslims are not a 'religious group.' Islam is not a religion. It is a totalitarian, Arab-supremacist death cult and a political ideology for inbred, baby-raping, misogynist, Nazi terrorist savages. Period.
Part of the brilliance of Islam as a political ideology is that one cannot simultaneously be a Muslim and be anything else, thus Muslims must devote their entire lives to furthering Islam and brainwashing themselves into continuing to do so.
One cannot be a Muslim and a productive worker, and not just because of the ass-wiping, water-snorting, praying-that-the-Jooos-all-die-5-times-a-day thing. Muslims aren't supposed to carry out honest hard work anyway. That they must never work to improve their lot in life, never own property, and never succeed unless by killing, stealing, and plundering is absolutely foundational to Islam. They are only to work for Islam. It's not just a principle, but that's the only way it works in practice. That's why Islamic societies have never produced anything but more Islam. They cannot be good employees because the proscriptions of their death-cult intentionally preclude it so that they really can only exist in a Sharia society.
One cannot be a good citizen and a Muslim because they must be live their entire lives parasitizing honest, hard workers and furthering Sharia, which violates everyone's human rights.
One cannot be a good student and a Muslim because they're not to seek real knowledge because all the 'knowledge' they ever need is in the Koran, and everything else is either redundant or wrong. The Muslims were doing the correct thing, according to Islamic protocols, when they torched the Library at Alexandria and every library and university in India.
One cannot be a good parent and a Muslim because they keep their daughters as sex slaves and then pimp them away, breeding them as nothing more than Islamic vaginas for Allah's army. They teach their sons to rape their own sisters and daughters, to live to die, and that they are obligated to keep women, usually other family members, as sex-slave vaginas/breeder cattle for Allah's army.
One cannot be a good leader and a Muslim they must dedicate themselves to furthering Sharia, a doctrine which revolves entirely around endless human rights violations. The Arabic word for 'govern' does not mean 'to steer, to guide,' as in Indo-European languages; it means 'to subdue, to oppress,' just like 'Sharia' means 'the trail down which cattle are herded.'
One cannot be a good person at all because Muslims are obligated to be Jihadists, which means furthering evil and violating people's human rights in every imaginable way, even if it's just letting me know that you want me dead and have no respect for anything decent, civilized, or worthwhile by wearing a headscarf. Muslims can't exist in the free world as Muslims. It simply is not possible.
Bill Warner says that he cannot come up with a single issue, topic, or subject on which Muslims and the free world agree. All that 'we're more alike that we are different' stuff is complete crap. It may seem like it because Muslims are brilliant taqiyya artists around us, but that's a front. If it seems genuine it's because all Muslims are narcissists and at some level they seek our approval, even if it's not the real them we approve of. Muslim have no concept of 'real people.' Islam is all about appearing moral and decent while behaving as abhorrently as possible. Perv Mo was the master of that. That's why he kept redefining 'moral,' which can't be done because morality is objective. They're all very different people at the sleeper cell on Friday with their own kind, supporting the Taliban, molesting children, beating their incestuous Sharia sex slaves, drinking halal Israeli blood, and 'praying' that every decent person in this world dies so that they can plunder our possessions and rape our daughters.
When will employers realize this? You may not be able to discriminate against Muslims per se, but you can refuse to hire people who ask for special accomodations, try to dictate their hours, burden other workers, do not accept their employers' authority unconditionally, mistreat their coworkers, or are so stupid that they believe the earth is flat. They can ask them in interviews if they unconditionally accept the terms of their non-Sharia employment, if they disregard science, if they don't love Christians and Jews, or if they don't regard women and gays as their equals and if the answer is no, even if it's a janitorial job, the employer can refuse to hire them or fire them if they contradict the statements they made in the interview. Furthermore, you can discriminate against anyone from the 3rd world on the basis of the fact that they simply do not have legitimate educations like their American and Mexican-American counterparts. You can discriminate against anyone, even people raised in America, who attended Islamic schools, even if they went on to Harvard, on the basis of the fact that they lack 2nd-grade educations, Harvard or no. I'm talking to you, Obama. We do not need Muslim workers anywhere, working any job in the free world, under any circumstances. If we need unskilled workers there's this big-ass place called 'Latin America' from where we can take them.
The western world needs to work on protecting all employers to hire whom they choose without the fear of violence or intimidation or threat of lawsuits...there are those businesses that have uniform requirements for all employees, there are those hospitals where Muslim attire creates possible unsafe conditions.....the intimidation by the Muslims to force their religious ways upon the host countries has got to stop...period.
From Refugee Resettlement Watch:
why this Greeley/Swift & Co/Somali issue is so critical
I would like to add another useful link but for some technical reason, the typed information does not preview at all (this is the first time I've encountered technical censure) . . .alternately google "Jihad by the Numbers" and explore the link by yoel. (yoel dot info back slash demographicjihad dot htm) It contains a highly hyper-linked thorough analysis of the demographic jihad and 'why' it is so important with this belief system.
I dont understand in the first place why the US or Canada needs to bring in so called "refugees" from other continents. Another thing these suffering muslims working at this plant will probably need to be careful from now on, as the non muslims will not take kindly to being treated as 2ndclass citizens, and will go after them.
I dont understand in the first place why the US or Canada needs to bring in so called "refugees" from other continents.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at September 19, 2008 6:50 AM
What's not to understand? Politicians live on votes. More immigrants, who see them favourably, more votes; Country and it's citizens, be damned. Only patriotic few politicians like Tom Tancredo, R-CO, care for America and stand firmly against the two major threats:
- Illegal Immigration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJRj5DH3qCY
- Terrorism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW9YdHsVulQ
What's not to understand?
When was the last time you heard of a JW suing for days off or demanding that other employees work in his place?
When was the last time you heard of ANY member of any other religion making the demands islamists do?
jdamn, great post, succinctly summing up the evil ideology of islam.
Just a reminder... problems at Swift do not affect the politicians who imported these "refugees".
Economic efficiency trumps Islamicization.
(sarcasm) These employees are not disgruntled now. Nooo. Nothing like "happy" Muslims preparing our food. Thanks, Swift, for setting such a good example (and making those Muslims "happy").
CHeap labor is useful for far left ideologies. They, then, can go there and harvest votes.
The same happens here in europe.
That's great!
I'm sure I'm one among many here who e-mailed Swift and said, "Not buying your products anymore if you kowtow to the Islamic Barbarians."
Or something like that!
As the song goes:"na na, na na na na, hey hey, goodbye."
Here's your hat. What's your hurry ?
"Walking out in protest" should result in PERMANENT firing and a mark on the employee's record to prevent him being hired at any other SWIFT operation.
Kudos to the employees who protested their rights being trampled upon. If only their managers had the same wisdom, this country would be much better off.
Walking out in protest they call it. But THEY are members of a UNION. This is called a wildcat strike. Wildcat strikes betray and weaken the UNION. It is immensely divisive. The Somalis are SO wrong in SO many ways and so clueless about what arrogant asses they are. Not only can't they be loyal to the U.S. but not even to their own union.
At least we get the delicious pleasure of watching the multiculti left squirm as it tries to tell America's union workers to 'bend over'and take it up the wazoo' for the sake of these America-hating barbarians.
Excellent.
Accomodation based on religious sensitivity surely leads to discrimination of another.
Again, why would African Somalis be better off in America? Why not a neighboring African country or even closer than the US, Europe? All the way to the US? Why?
At least we get the delicious pleasure of watching the multiculti left squirm as it tries to tell America's union workers to 'bend over and take it up the wazoo' for the sake of these America-hating barbarians.
Posted by: poetcomic1 at September 19, 2008 9:56 AM
Hmmm...so delicious! Yum Yum Yum! Sweeter than a chocolate sundae with marshmallow and a cherry.
As the song goes:"na na, na na na na, hey hey, goodbye."
Here's your hat. What's your hurry ?
Posted by: dgene at September 19, 2008 9:15 AM
LOL
Does anyone remember the "blue" laws. They have been slowly eliminated over the last 60 years. Now are we going to see them coming back in spades, Islamic style?
Spot On,
How would this bring back the blue laws? Isn't Friday the holy day for Muslims?
We don't close down on Saturday. I can't see anyone letting this country close down on Friday. Muslim businesses might be free to close for religious observances but no one else is obliged to follow their example. Not yet, anyway.
It is good to see they had guts to stand up to this soft jihad!!
We really need to regulate who we allow to immigrate to this nation and even cut back on legal immigration.
Kudos to the non-Muslim workers at the Swift plant!
"Get up, stand up
Don't forget your rights!"
- Bob Marley
"Counterprotests by non-Muslim workers began Wednesday. They said the shift changes penalized them while favoring the Muslim workers."
It's about time.
Viva l'American Revolution!
Muslim businesses might be free to close for religious observances but no one else is obliged to follow their example. Not yet, anyway.
PMK-
I liked your disclaimer, "Not yet, anyway". I agree, I'm getting to far ahead, but if we keep going down the track we are on, Sharia law is coming. I guess you cannot compare the blue laws to Sharia when Sharia is a million times worse.
*sigh*
Bend over, swift...
*sigh*
Bend over, swift...
Now if we can just get the Huskers to get back to the elite level of college football they've been known for in years past, Nebraska will be the greatest place on earth. LOL
No bending over. Standing up is what is required.
The big question is, who will make Swift's life more miserable, the whining neanderthals or the now awakening Americans who are remembering that PC is BS and they have certain, inalienable rights guaranteed them by the creator?
My money is on the pissed off Americans. ; )
Just THINK about grumpy Somalian Muslims preparing your PORK products for you! Boogers, spit, urine, feces and other Islamic seasonings. Believe me, they will express themselves upon the 'haram' food whenever they think they can get away with it.
I don't know Poet, if the normal Americans who work at the plant aren't willing to put up with the lousy work schedule (I knew the average American union workers would not surrender their Saturdays!) then I don't think they will stand idly by and quietly watch a Somali pee-on-the-pork and not say anything about it, especially since the latest battle is in their favor.
Off Topic ~ MiamiInfidel, Pelini's on it. I predict Big XII Championship next year. GO BIG RED
Back on topic ~ If only Swift and the Great State of Nebraska could boot the 'refugee' workers like they did Peterson and Callahan. Only without the big payoffs. Then it would truly be the greatest place on earth. Anyway, it's still a darn sight better than Minnesota!
Here's a bit of history: A hundred years ago large numbers of eastern European Jewish immigrants lived in New York City, knew little English, and had little education. Most were observant and would not let their children work on the Sabbath. The sons then set up their own businesses or worked for other Jews in the garment industry. The daughters (including my mother) became public-school teachers, because the schools closed on Friday afternoons and did not open again until Monday morning. That's part of the reason for the large percentage of second-generation Jews in self-employment occupations (law, accounting, medicine, dentistry, retail shops) and in the teaching profession. It never occurred to them that anyone should accommodate their customs or beliefs. They took it for granted that it was they who should do the accommodating.
In 1908 nobody had heard of multiculturalism; no one was ashamed to preach "Americanism." Adult immigrants eagerly went to settlement houses and schools to learn English and civics. Their children were taught in English and picked up the language within a few months.
A century has passed; what can we conclude about the policy that dictates that it's the newcomers who should do the accommodating? Who has benefited? Answer: both sides.
Does anybody know how many more Swift or Tyson are loaded with the parasites. ?and who gave them the green light to enter this country.
They did not swim over here. and they have working visas. Who is guilty?
They are killing christians overthere by the thousands and here they are .... working here.
Something is wrong at the very beginning of the story.
This is scary. I smell revenge. No beef. Pork might be safe for me.