They should lose votes across the board for that. "MPs too scared to talk about forced marriage 'in case they lose Muslim votes'," by Martin Beckford for the Telegraph, September 2:
Ann Cryer said politicians in areas with high Muslim populations, many of which are Labour heartlands, should be at the forefront of the campaign to stop young couples being made to wed against their will by their families.
But she claimed that some politicians are afraid to speak out on the issue in case they alienate Muslim voters. The forced marriage unit at the Foreign Office deals with an estimated 300 cases every year, most of them involving teenage girls from Pakistani or Bangladeshi families.
Mrs Cryer, who is stepping down as MP for Keighley in West Yorkshire at the next general election, added that local Muslim leaders are not doing enough to encourage integration and accused them of trying to keep immigrants who move to Britain "in the backwoods".
It comes just days after Gordon Brown praised her "brave" campaign against forced marriage, and said her understanding of her constituency was "second to none".
Mrs Cryer, 68, said: "There still is a nervousness to talk about this, especially those MPs in constituencies affected by these issues.
"They should be fighting on the front line, but they are the ones keeping quiet on the issue because they don't want to lose votes.
"Some of the Muslim leaders in my area are doing their communities a disservice and trying to keep them in the backwoods. They don't seem to have any understanding about the importance of having integration and cohesion, or to promote women to leadership roles in the community."
Mrs Cryer has been at the forefront of efforts to ban forced marriages and honour killings. A law that she backed, the Forced Marriage (Civil Protection) Act, which will come into effect this month, will help by giving women the right to apply for an injunction in court and prevent a ceremony going ahead. Her campaigning has also led to the Government raising the minimum age for a marriage visa from 18 to 21.
When Mrs Cryer announced her retirement last week, the Prime Minister said: "She knows every inch of her constituency and her understanding of its communities is second to none.
"After encountering a number of forced marriages among her constituents, she mounted a brave campaign to highlight the sometimes appalling mistreatment of women forced to be brides."
However Mrs Cryer's claims have been dismissed by Khalid Mahmood, the Muslim Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr.
He claimed that MPs would not be so easily swayed by the perceived opinions of their constituents, and pointed out that many politicians supported the war in Iraq despite opposition from Muslim voters.
Mr Mahmood said: "In terms of being scared, I think that's complete nonsense. Most MPs will speak their minds because that's what they're there for and most of them are strong enough characters.
"People do things because they believe in them, not because of this cynical reason. If that was the case, MPs would have stood up against the Afghanistan and Iraq wars."
Anyway, it's really not a problem, except when it is, which is isn't... really:
He added: "I've been adamantly against forced marriage and people have supported me in that. We've also got a rigid system with the embassy in Islamabad now and although it is an issue, it's not an epidemic as Ann sometimes makes it out to be."
politicians are afraid to speak out on the issue in case they alienate Muslim voters.
a mp lives and dies politically by votes and most don't care were they get the votes from the liberal lobby in Ont Canada is a good example of how politicians will pander to special interest groups like the slow jihad lobby aka muslim immigrants
Whoa, was that a fatwa that just landed in my pool?
"They don't seem to have any understanding about the importance of having integration and cohesion"
that's because they don't wnat integration and cohesion....they want dominance...
Hypothetical case:
Two politicians are running for office.
One is dhimmified and afraid to speak out for fear of losing votes.
The other is beginning to become aware of the threat of islam and sharia law, and calls for open discussion and appropriate laws.
I know who I'd vote for, and I trust all non-muslims would do the same. Let's hope some politicians will wake up to this realization. We are still the majority, after all.
The more Muslims, the more Muslim voters. And even though there will be some who will refrain from becoming contaminated with Infidel ways, and participating in elections, many more will devote their efforts, for the greater good of Islam, to burrow deep within the local party structures, and then working to rise high, to elect candidates who are Muslims or who, almost as good, will do Muslim bidding. It's purely a question of numbers. Very few politicians have shown themselves able to see beyond their own immediate well-being, which they have a great capacity to identify with the long-term wellbeing of the country they inhabit. There are exceptions, but very few, in any party.
The attitude expressed by the poster just above is the only way to behave. That is, vote on the issue of Islam, taking care to oppose any candidate who, while you may find his views agreeable on everything else, does not comprehend the meaning, or menace, of Islam. Make that your sole or deciding issue, and let those who run for office understand how important that matter is to you, and have other Infidels make the same point. Muslims vote for those who will do their bidding, on the subject of accommodating Islam, do it out of conviction, or ignorance, or fear. Non-Muslims must mimic this, and make sure to vote for those whose views and likely behavior concerning everything to do with accommodating Islam, are the exact opposite -- out of conviction, out of knowledge, and out of a refusal to give in to fear.
He added: "I've been adamantly against forced marriage and people have supported me in that. We've also got a rigid system with the embassy in Islamabad now and although it is an issue, it's not an epidemic as Ann sometimes makes it out to be."
So who you gonna believe - me or your lying eyes?
Forced marriage is a two pronged racket
Vector one is to bring more Muslims into civilized nations. Muslim marriage partners are imported
Vector two is that the party in UK is paid off to accept the imported bride or groom. Dowry or what have you. This racket brings in big bucks to the greedy Muslim daddy
The attitude expressed by the poster just above is the only way to behave.
Posted by: Hugh at September 2, 2008 8:17 AM
Hugh, a little too late for that here in USA. Tom Tancredo, R-CO, isn't running any more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf3JunNAQQw
"And even though there will be some who will refrain from becoming contaminated with Infidel ways..."
Posted by: Hugh
Hey, how's this for an idea: Let's create little signs for our cars that read, "Voting is for Infidels!"
An OT~
Tourism: Oil Dollars Flood Paris and Rescue Season
(by Antonella Tarquini) (ANSAmed) — PARIS, AUGUST 27 — Oil dollars are flooding Paris, and are rescuing the tourist season of Ville Lumiere struck by a heavy decline (down 20.1% in terms of hotel overnight stays) in American tourists, in addition to, by a smaller rate, Japanese ones (down 8.1%). In the first half of the year the presence of rich tourists coming from the wealthy Gulf monarchies — like the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia — rose by 14% compared to the same period of 2007, and by 23.7% in terms of overnight stays in hotels, the director of the Paris tourism office, Paul Roll, said, showing his contentment. And it is well known that this clientele does not stay in the small two and three-star hotels, and not even in the four-star ones: luxury is and remains their codeword, and luxury are the shops where the Middle Eastern ladies — designer sunglasses, and headscarf just put on the head, designer purses in hand — leave heaps of dollars. They enter Cartier, Van Cleef & Arpels, Boucheron, as if they entered a supermarket, and go out with notably slimmer wallets and credit cards, in exchange for precious jewels. “The rich Gulf travellers are deserting the United States, which was their preferred destination before September 11, and are opting for Paris where they find the hotel quality and the luxury they are searching for,” Roll explains. The new clientele, very demanding and with habits differing from the Western, has caused a small revolution in the management of the hotels: many, for example, like Warwick on the Champs Elysees, have delayed the time for serving breakfast. “They go to sleep and get up very late, and for this reason we have set extra shifts of the staff,” an official of the Fouquet’s hotel, opened two years ago nearby the cafeteria bearing the same name, which is the stronghold of cinematographers, explains. Many of the restaurants in the capital are also fitting into the Arab schedules and customs. This is how Monte Cristo offers to its customers narghile and certain discos on rue de Washington play Arab music. Several dozens of metres away Elysee Biarritz, a private cinema, organised for the second summer in a row a festival of Arab films with extraordinary prices: 20 euro (compared to 9.0 euro in regular cinemas) for a show and also offers private showings in the middle of the night at a price of 5,000 euro. And often even much more. “We show films still unreleased in the Middle East and since in Saudi Arabia cinemas are forbidden our customers do not mind the expenses,” said Hugues Piketty, the director of Elysee Biarritz. Recently, a Saudi prince spent 15,000 euro to see an Egyptian film which had not been included in the programme. “We had to bring a specialist from Egypt with the film for the VIP showing for the prince at 3am,” Piketty said. Unfortunately, the prince did not say whether he liked the film. (ANSAmed).
http://www.ansamed.info/en/news/ME05.@AM17150.html
slightly OT
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1050165/Muslim-council-chiefs-ban-ALL-members-tea-sandwiches-meetings-Ramadan.html
Muslim council leaders have sparked outrage after trying to ban all councillors eating in meetings until sunset during the holy month of Ramadan. Politicians have hit out after the move to impose hardline Islamic rules on non-Muslim colleagues throughout September.
The bombshell has been dropped by Labour chiefs of the notoriously loony Tower Hamlets Council in east London. The storm was sparked by an email sent to all councillors this week highlighting arrangements for Town Hall committee meetings next month, which marks the Muslim fasting period of Ramadan.
The memo said that new council leader Lutfur Rahman and his deputy, Siraj Islam, had requested that meetings be kept to a minimum to accommodate fasting councillors. They have also urged all other councillors to resist eating until the breaking of the fast at sunset.
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OT
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/1376/sharia-application/
Sharia can be applied without making Indonesia an Islamic state.
Fuad Amsyari of the Crescent Star Party, Partai Bulan Bintang [Crescent & Star Party, PBB], said in Jakarta on 21st August that the basic form of the state, Pancasila, did not need to be changed in order that sharia be applied. Instead, every law that was made could incorporate Islamic law.
It was a mistake to think that sharia application depended on an Islamic state, he said, and there was nothing in Pancasila that prevented sharia law from being applied in Indonesia. Every government policy and law could employ sharia, he said, and no discrimination against non-Muslims would occur.
There will be no discrimination because in Islam there can be no discrimination.
Another PBB leader, Sahar L. Hassan, agreed that sharia could be adopted without altering the constitution, and hoped that it could be applied at the level of the state, however, someone convicted of theft in an area for which the state was responsible would not suffer hand amputation, but in ordinary theft cases hand amputation would occur.
Meanwhile, in the interests of the further application of sharia law, the PBB is inviting clerics from throughout the country and well-known figures […] to attend a meeting in Bogor, 24-26th August.
During this meeting it is hoped that ways to apply sharia in all aspects of life can be discussed, as well as the means of bringing this about, and specific proposals that can be put to the government and parliament.
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"Oil dollars are flooding Paris, and are rescuing the tourist season of Ville Lumiere....."
There go the French, boot-licking again.
The British should then take a page out of the books our leftists/libs use.
They sue.
See Prop 87 and others in California.
Use the Court system.
Forced marriages should violate a number of paragraphs in the British Legal system.
Use it while you still have one.
Slightly OT as this marriage was probably not forced but it is an interesting example of the dual standard which benifits "Asians" in the UK.
uk.http://www.pendletoday.co.uk/nelsonnews/Shop-boss-spared-jail-after.4426506.jp
They don't seem to have any understanding about the importance of having integration and cohesion...
That's because Islam is ABOVE all else:
It is He (Allah) who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth, to show that it is above all other religions, however much the idolaters may hate this. Qur'an 9:38
...And because Islam opposes friendship to non-Muslims:
You who believe, do not take the Jews and Christians as allies: they are allies only to each other. Anyone who takes them as an ally becomes one of them. Qur'an 5:51
...And because Islam opposes non-Muslims:
Muhammad is the Messenger of God. Those who follow him are harsh towards the disbelievers and compassionate towards each other. Qur'an 48:29
...And because Islam is a religion of war:
There are 28 on-going conflicts in the world and 25 of them involve Islam - that's a stunning 89.3%. Not bad for a religion that only 20% of the world's population adheres to.
Britain is a neat country to visit- Lots of historical places to see, unique villages, quaint setting, fun pubs.And then there are the people; they suffer from a fatalism that worries me. It worries me because I fear it is growing here.
The British, Canadians and Europeans are a disease from which we must withdraw. We have problems in this country--the Hell With Europe.
"The British, Canadians and Europeans are a disease from which we must withdraw. We have problems in this country--the Hell With Europe."
Posted by: muslim_watcher
Nice attitude.
The more Muslims...eventually they will vote in a Muslim party. I predict a British Muslim Party (BMP).