American traitor says U.S. economic crisis is a Muslim victory

Misunderstander of Islam rails against the "enemies of Islam." Not that this has anything to do with Islam, of course.

More on the traitor's new video. "Al-Qaida: US economic crisis equals Muslim victory," from AP, October 4 (thanks to all who sent this in):

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) — An American member of al-Qaida pointed to economic troubles in the United States as proof that "the enemies of Islam" face defeat, in an English-language video released Saturday.

In a half hour video message, California-native Adam Gadahn urged Pakistanis to unite against their government and U.S. forces, and taunted Americans over their economic crisis, relating it to their military interventions.

"The enemies of Islam are facing a crushing defeat, which is beginning to manifest itself in the expanding crisis their economy is experiencing," said Gadahn, in a clip of the message distributed by the SITE Intelligence Group, a Washington-based monitor of militant Web sites.

"A crisis whose primary cause, in addition to the abortive and unsustainable crusades they are waging in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq, is their turning their backs on Allah's revealed laws, which forbid interest-bearing transactions, exploitation, greed and injustice in all its forms." [...]

Gadahn also urged Pakistanis to unite and establish an Islamic state....

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Gee you suppose?
The price of oil triples as well as almost every other commodity, metal, and grain. I am not the head of the Federal Reserve, but a world wide recession is the likely result of such actions. Meanwhile Arab oil economies are awash in cash and pursue such astounding projects including a race to erect phallic symbols such as mile tall buildings/towers.

Is it economic warfare? Oil costs choke off economic growth, essentially killing the goose that lays the golden egg for the oil producers. That the excess cash now flows into commodities (blown up) rather than investment in world stock markets (beaten down). The answer is yes, based on one key observation:

The only commodity that has not soared?

Pork Bellies and other pork futures.

Care to venture your own guess?

Uh, hey traitor-dude?

The Great Depression was followed by victory in WWII and unprecedented prosperity. That wasn't because we converted and stopped charging interest.

And imagine what avenues for growth will be opened in a post-oil economy, whose arrival is only accelerated by ridiculous prices per barrel.

So, like, yeah.

Well, this hardly surprises me. Iran's Achmadinejad said in his address to the UN that the "American empire" was "nearing its end".

In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Ahmadinejad said the collapse of global financial markets was due in large part to U.S. military interventions abroad.

"The world economy can no longer tolerate the budgetary deficit and the financial pressures occurring from markets here in the United States, and by the U.S. government," he added.

It seems Gadahn agrees. So, fighting terrorism will lead to our downfall, so I guess we should just let the Jihad continue without resistance of any sort--that will be good for world markets!

Not, of course, that our "war on terror" has been conducted in a particularly wise manner. Already, though, you hear certain pundits waxing lyrical about what the money used to fight terrorism might have bought here at home, as if all efforts were nothing more than some entirely extracuricular adventure, taken on a whim, rather than at least an attempt--no matter how poorly executed--to stand against "Islamic extremeism".

How dangerous is this? It might well be presented to the American people that if we want cheap oil and affordable mortgages, that it is best to let terrorism continue unopposed. After all, surely another 9/11 or two can't really be more costly than a Wall Street bailout, right?

Gadahn sounds like an archetypal moderate muslim to me - all that talk of "victory" and "crushing defeat".

You don't get more moderate than that.

The vast sums squandered in Iraq, for some the "central front" in the "war on terrorism," and the vast sums that are about to be squandered in Afghanistan, for still others the "central front" in the "war on terrorism," and the vast sums given to every Muslim state, by the Americans and Europeans, that does not happen to have been blessed with oil and natural gas deposits -- Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan, even the so-called "Palestinian" Authority that now consists of West Bank Arabs (the Gazan Arabs being, for now, under the new management of the Fast Jihadists of Hamas) -- all this does constitute an economic victory for Muslims.

There are far cheaper, more elegant ways of exploiting the pre-existing weaknesses within the Camp of Islam, of dividing and demoralizing that Camp, of exposing to Infidel eyes the characteristics -- violence, aggression, a Victor/Vanquished mentality that abjures all sensible compromise -- of Islam that will have the effect not only of making Islam less attractive to targets of Da'wa, but also of awakening the Western, or even larger Infidel world, to the real nature of Islam.

The current economic crisis may just cause the USA to suspend a lot of economic aid to many Muslim countries. Since the Islamic worldview fails to produce solid economies and societies, "the Great Satan" ie the USA must ironically fund many Islamic countries in order to keep them stable.

The current economic crisis will certainly bring about the end of the Iraq war since fiscal conservatives will secure power in the coming administrations, regardless of which party wins. The Iraq war brought a lot of spending into the Middle East and this money is sure to dry up.

This historical lack of security is likely to bring about a desire for increased overall security in the USA and hopefully cause a move towards energy independence. When North America discovers and alternative to oil, the Middle East will implode.

No Mo, you won't be dancing on the grave of the US of A anytime soon.

If the Western economic csystem collapses, Islamic countries will be starving to death.

Well, that certainly will solve many problems.

In earlier times, the CIA used to sponsor "disappearances" of people like Gadahn, didn't they? Where are they now, when we really need them?

Gadhan is a traitor. There should be a price on his head.

I'm of the opinion that as the economy contracts, especially if an incremental blow to the economy in the form of a terrorist attack occurs, Americans will have less patience for the multicultural claptrap underlying our relatively tame (and expensive, with all this nation-building expense vs. the "more rubble less trouble" method) response to Muslim aggression to-date, thus actually resulting in the exact opposite of what all these Muslim fools keep predicting. After a few years of Great Depression, people weren't in exactly the friendliest of moods towards Germany and the other Axis powers, especially since many of them probably intuitively understood that war would be good for the economy. If Muslims think we are blood-thirsty now, just wait until the average Westerner has even less of a reason to want to avoid war to live "the good life".

Those "California-native(s)" are on the cutting edge, aren't they?

Gee whiz...

The only commodity that has not soared?

Pork Bellies and other pork futures.

Care to venture your own guess?

Posted by: GrimReaperxxx


There's something fishy in that. We know the Muslim economy pirates won't touch the pork. Makes the whole idea of a Muslim 'conspiracy' - of which they are always so eager to accept - now more believable as a real Muslim conspiracy... against us. Can they attack our markets?
You think? They got the money, all it takes is collusion.

I would join the lol, "religion of peace" but I don't look good in black...

What a maroon.

"The enemies of Islam are facing a crushing defeat, which is beginning to manifest itself in the expanding crisis their economy is experiencing," said Gadahn,"

Considering the grinding poverty and ignorance of most of the Islamic world, I would prefer to take my chances as an enemy of Islam.

This is half-educated bullshit - from both Gadahn and Ahmedinajad. They are repeating stuff worked out by Muslim financial "experts" - all those bankers and bureaucrats who sit in the background while politicians and terrorists make noise. But it is wrong either way. The only real wealth in the world is work and the results of work. Without work, raw materials are worthless. Some countries have skilled populations and vast amounts of raw materials, like the USA. Some countries have skilled populations and no amount of raw materials, like Japan. Some countries have vast amounts of raw materials, pretty bloody useless populations, and above all desperate and corrupt legal systems. The first two groups always win, the third always loses. The "wealth" of the Gulf states is an epiphenomenon of the success of Western economies; if America, Europe and East Asia ceased buying Arab oil - as they would if their economies collapsed according to the fevered dreams of these people - the crash of the oil sheikhdoms would be much more total, final and reverberating than anything else. The perfidious Saudis realize this, at least, which is why they are working to keep prices practicable: without a client to sell oil to, they are nothing.

Has anyone seen the Madrassa video recitation about the "Great Kenyan" coming to power in the US? Praise to the Kenyan and praise to Allah.

The video also claims Muslim responsibility of the present economic woes associated with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Did we not bail out foreign creditors?

BTW, oil dropped a good bit from the announcement of the credit crunch. Is this to keep us from drilling and securing a greater hydrocarbon (NOT ENERGY) independence. Oil concerns the motor vehicle energy and chemical feedstock supply. Exception to this rule is home heating oil which has for a very longtime been gradually replaced by natural gas and electricity. Also, increase in use of natural gas as fuel for boilers and gas turbine electricity generation has driven its price upwards since 1982 and caused a lot of petrochemical industry to close down in Western Canada and the U.S. Gulf Coast as well as the Aluminum Inudstry.

The "wealth" of the Gulf states is an epiphenomenon of the success of Western economies; if America, Europe and East Asia ceased buying Arab oil - as they would if their economies collapsed according to the fevered dreams of these people - the crash of the oil sheikhdoms would be much more total, final and reverberating than anything else. The perfidious Saudis realize this, at least, which is why they are working to keep prices practicable: without a client to sell oil to, they are nothing.
Posted by: Paolo

You are so right, that they are nothing without us. Further, their exporting Jihad and Sharia to the rest of the world would grind to a halt. We would remain militarily superior, even with a great depression as we proved at start of WW II, and they would return back to being camel herders. Then we would have just cause to take their oil. These ignorant Islamic madrassas Koran mumbling raggedy primitives have no idea who they are dealing with.

The bulk of the enemy fled the killing fields in Iraq to a place that is hard to get to, and harder to get at.

If the reasoning to bulk up the forces in Afcrapstan is to prevent a "failed state". Then what is the reason for developing the conditions to create a failed state behind our enforceable lines of communications.

I an not so sure that Obama will spend a Trillion Dollars of his Social programs to blow a crater wide enough through Pakistain to keep Afcrapstan supplied.

Especially with the commanding British General recommending Surrender through another failed policy like Basra. One of only 3 Country's committed that even Shoot. While the 2nd. Country willing to pull the trigger is committed to leaving in the near future.

Just about every major Tribal war won by the US Military came after they were denied food and shelter in Winter Quarters. It always exposed the tribes to desperate measures that could not stand up to a modern Army.

Instead of killing off the Leadership. Kill off their Cash Crop and interdict their Fuel and Food. A non violent measure we might even get the Pakistainians to enforce. The more Militants that go there, the less there is for each. Something the leadership would be distracted by from the cries of their huddled masses.

No Fuel, no Food, no Money, no nothing. Except the cries of the Liberal Press about how rotten we are.

Egypt. Here's a good example of where your tax money goes,, and where it doesn't,, because your a infedel Chistian.
28 billion dollars in aid [tribute]to Egypt over the past 30 years. That's 77.78 million dollars a month. Look at these happy Muslim faces. http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/features/egypt/

Now look at this clip of the Christians (Coptic) of Egypt and how they must live. Does it appear they've seen a penny of our 77+ million a month. A clear violation of human rights and form of slavery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iFz-tN7WH8&feature=related
Sickening.....

Blue

Regardless of what Adam said, what no one here has pointed out is that he's apparently come back to life.

Now this...is truly miraculous. He *didn't* die of HellFire Poisoning, as was previously thought/sworn by local goat herdsmen.

If any of you keep track, in his absence, the quality of Al-Sahib vids has gone way, way down since February or so -- which coincides with the missile strike -- so I guess now we'll see an improvement in the propaganda, which I frankly look forward to.

They could really spin this to their advantage...if a messed up Goth-Metal kid from Orange County can find OBL, why can't the gov't?

OK, Adam the Traitor can gloat for now, but there are a few changes coming. First, "Peak Oil" (courtesy of Dr. Hibbert, Shell Oil, late 1950s) is real. It hit the USA in 1972, just in time for the Yom Kippur War in 1973. Ever wonder why the UAE is turning into the Riviera of the Gulf? Peak Oil has already hit the Middle East and the prospect of dwindling petro-dollars must be terrifying. This also means that a rational cover can be concocted for Iran's nuclear developement since the peak is on the near horizon.

Now, for some good news. The western hemisphear is blessed with multiple sources of energy including various hydrocarbons and coal which can be converted into hydrocarbons via the Fischer-Troph process. That process can also work on waste streams. Adam the Traitor can go to that hot abyss and soak his heels in brimstone pools. We will get over our problems while others go back to herding camels.

Gadahn also urged Pakistanis to unite and establish an Islamic state....

I thought Pakistan was already an Islamic state. Someone changed it and forgot to tell us.

In earlier times, the CIA used to sponsor "disappearances" of people like Gadahn, didn't they? Where are they now, when we really need them?

Gadhan is a traitor. There should be a price on his head.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi

The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $1 million for information leading to the arrest of Adam Yahiye Gadahn.

Trust me...disappearances still happen. They just can't get to this fat f**k.
Not yet anyway. When a bunch of his drinkin' buddies got kacked a while back, we thought he had gone to join the rest of his brethren in hell. His journey to hell is still to come. I just hope we get to put him in a cage first.

And anyone who knows anything about this crap goin' down with Freddie and Fannie, knows damn well that Islam didn't have shit to do with it.
The Dhimmicrats own words make it clear who is to blame for this crap. Here they are showing their guilt in their own words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

If that aint enough, even SNL got it right last night.

* After Nancy Pelosi (played by Kristen Wiig) blamed the Bush administration and Republicans for the current financial crisis, President Bush (played by Jason Sudeikis) interrupted: "Wait a minute. Wasn't it my administration that warned about the problem six years ago? And it was Democrats who refused to listen?" When Pelosi protested, Barney Frank (played by Fred Armisen) corrected her, "Actually, this time, this time he's sort of right."
* Two "regular Americans" were introduced to tell their story of how they got caught up in the housing crisis, and now face eviction. They both admitted to fitting "all the requirements for a subprime mortgage": no credit history, no job, minor criminal record, dishonorable discharge from the army, drug problem, alcohol problem, gambling addiction, and a pregnant girlfriend(s).
* Herbert and Marion Sandler (played by Darrell Hammond and Casey Wilson respectively), the former banking moguls now with clear financial ties to ultra-leftwing outlets such as the Center for American Progress and Media Matters for America, were exposed as major players in the subprime mortgage market before they sold their company, Golden West Financial, to Wachovia. Under their captioned names on screen, the words "People who should be shot" were displayed.
* George Soros (played by Will Forte) told viewers that all of the $700 billion coming from the recently passed bailout bill is going to him. Under his captioned name on the screen were the words "Multi-billionaire Hedge Fund Manager, Owner, Democratic Party."

Hard to bleeb that the Dhimmis are eating their own. Maybe, just maybe they will wake up in time.

Islam is a lie and truth is killing it.

JFL,
Yes there have been some predictions of Peak Oil, which according to those studies we have not yet attanined. However, Saudi stated reserves seem to remain constant no matter how much has been extracted.

While the UAE has been developing itself as not only the "Riviera" but also as an international center of trade on a track to surpass the other centers of trade. It never had the "Big" reserves that the other Gulf States have.
Almost all of the "cheap" oil is in the Gulf States. This oil is light, sweet (very low sulfur) and not very deep, much like the pre-1980 crude oil produced in the US.

Many new finds are coming from older fields here in the US from 3D seismic surveys performed back in the late 1990's. And now there is something called 4D seismic survey which has been utilitized quite successfully in the Gulf of Mexico.

Another development that the former USSR had invested in was very deep drilling to the 40,000 level to search for "abiotic" oil.

You are correct about the Fischer Tropsch process which is used in several petrochemical processes and is the exclusive manner to produce ammonia from oil/natural gas. I was involved with Shell Development's coal gasification market development unit at Deer Park (Houston) Texas. At that time Shell was actually planning to build a full scale unit there as well as a coal slurry pipeline to transport the coal to the site. To perform this you also need a LOT of CO (carbon monoxide), nitrogen and oxygen. The process basically works by a catalytical conversion of partially burned coal under high heat and high pressure. It was weighed that there would be considerable court costs by environmental terrorists to block the building of the pipeline and construction of the process unit and the forecast for price of crude oil had to be pretty darned high for years down the road to justify its construction.

With Clean Coal, Oil Shale, Oil Sands and offshore production we should have several hundred years of hydrocarbon supply here in the US. Emissions standards for vehicles will determine this cost more than anything else. Heck the new lower sulfur standards costs hundreds of millions of dollars PER REFINERY just for new process units to be built. This is not accounting for cost of energy, personnel, maintenance, catalyst, etc... I am quite surprised that the cost of diesel is as low as it is these days, and it is pretty darned expensive.

There are a wide number of untrue and uneconomical claims by many "credible" academic sources on the internet.

This guy should be teaching economics

The traitor is our enemy. So why should anyone pay attention to his propaganda. Remember Sadam's propaganda man. He kept lying until we took his microphone away from him.

Was he from CAIR? I did not know that CAIR operates in Egypt.