And which race is Islam again? An update on this story. "Council rejects plan for Islamic school," from the Australian Associated Press, October 23:
A Sydney council says race played no part in its decision to reject a proposal to build an Islamic school.
Bankstown Council reaffirmed last night its earlier decision to block a proposed 1200-student Islamic school in Bass Hill, in Sydney's south-west, saying the Al Amanah College had failed to address traffic and environmental concerns.
The council first voted against the proposal in December. But in July the college took a revised development plan to the Land and Environment Court, which asked the council to comment on the amended proposal.
Councillors voted last night to reject the proposal in their submission to the court.
The issue of race was raised after Independent councillor Max Parker asked whether a study had been done on the impact on racial harmony in the area.
''There's a fear of Muslims, as they are in the world today, moving into that area,'' Cr Parker said.
A council spokeswoman denied yesterday race had anything to do with the decision, saying Bankstown prided itself on its racial diversity.
''We have about five Islamic schools in our area already. We also have Greek schools. We have Catholic schools. We have state schools,'' she said.
''Bankstown is very proud of its diversity. It's what makes Bankstown so special and so interesting.''
Community opposition to Islamic schools came to public attention in May, when Camden Council, in Sydney's south-west, rejected a 1200-student development on planning grounds.
That decision attracted widespread condemnation because of the Camden community's strident anti-Muslim campaign against the school. A campaign also accompanied Bankstown Council's decision, with the Bass Hill Resident Action Group opposing the Islamic school.
But as with the council, they have also repeatedly denied race was an issue. The council spokeswoman said parking and overdevelopment of the site were the reasons for the initial rejection in December.
The amended plans voted on last night ''weren't any better'', she said.
''In that area already there is a school, there is another housing development going through. The area borders the Hume Highway, which is a major highway,'' she said.
''We're not talking a little quiet suburban area. We're talking an area that has a lot of residential housing, but already has a lot of busy roads on it.
'So you put 1200 students, teachers, a 30-place child-care centre, next to an existing high school, and we are talking a genuine traffic issue.'' After the council rejected the plan in December, any decision on the development was up to the court, the spokeswoman said.
''We weren't voting on the development itself. We don't have the development power.
''The development power is with the Land and Environment Court,'' she said.
''What we were doing last night is determining what our feedback on the amended plans would be to the Land and Environment Court.''
"Australia: Council rules that "racism" played no part in rejection of planned Islamic school".
This is like saying the air has no color. Since Koranism isn't a race (it merely has a master race mentality) the council's finding is correct by default.
''Bankstown is very proud of its diversity. It's what makes Bankstown so special and so interesting.''
Uh huh...Keep that up and you can change the name of your town from Bankstown, to Poorville, where every other house is in poverty, but they are diverse, 'and interesting'...
Religion shouldn't be forced on children, even if it doesn't create traffic problems.
Segregated schools based on religion should not exist. There would be a lot less Islamic fundamentalism if children of Muslims went to the same schools as children of anyone else. I also oppose the existence of Christian schools, since they force non-Christians into their own schools rather than mixing.
Starting immediately, all infidels should only and always reproduce with someone of a different race. In a generation or two, we then will be able to eliminate the racism canard. Save the world from Islamofascism! Homogenize the races now!
"And which race is Islam again?"
Some time ago i was on a gaming forum thread dedicated to littlebigworld delay and one of local dhimmis suggested that to be negative about islam is "at least indirectly racist" since the majority of Muslims are Arabs. Just goes on to show what is the magnitude of disregard for reality we are dealing with. These idiots (western multiculti crowd) will say whatever they feel is damaging to anti-jihadists and they couldn't care less how ridiculous it is.
From the article:
"Bankstown Council reaffirmed last night its earlier decision to block a proposed 1200-student Islamic school in Bass Hill, in Sydney's south-west, saying the Al Amanah College had failed to address traffic and environmental concerns."
And that's their story and they're sticking to it. I hope they keep on sticking to it.
In the meantime : I would urge all my fellow Australian jihadwatchers to send brief, polite letters of support to the Bankstown Council and also to the Bass Hill Resident Action Group.
Be sure to stress two basic facts -
1. Islam is an ideology not a race and that therefore any questioning or critique of Islam is not racism
2. Islam itself, as can be demonstrated from the contents of its authoritative texts and from its track record throughout history, past *and* present (cite one or two sources - K S Lal might be good) is a viciously intolerant totalitarian ideology that, wherever it obtains power, exhibits contempt - indeed, on many occasions, murderous contempt - for any and all who refuse to join it and who try to continue practising any other form of belief. Point out that tolerance of the intolerable is ...suicide.
One might, if one chose, include a selection of news articles from this site, providing proof of the explicit and virulent Qur'an-Sira-Hadith-based teachings of hate (for Jews, for Christians, for all non-Muslims) that have been discovered to form part of the standard curricula of schools in the Muslim states of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, and of Islamic schools in the UK, the USA, Canada and - yes - Australia.
Assure both the council and the resident action group that, in fact, opposing the Islamic School upon the basis that it was Islamic, would be completely rational, an act of nothing less than simple political prudence. Quote Ayaan Hirsi Ali and her advice: that Islamic Schools should not be permitted in Western lands! (and the reasons she gives for it).
Preventing the building of an Islamic School is in essence no different from preventing the building of a KKK School, or of an "Adolf Hitler Memorial School', sponsored by neonazis, in which Mein Kampf and the Protocols were going to form the basis of the curriculum. (Offer some of the evidence for the rabid intolerance and supremacism of Islam; cite the truly hair-raising quotes that demonstrate, for example, the ingrained antisemitism of the Qur'an, Sira, Hadith, Muslim theology and jurisprudence, and Muslim practice past and present; refer people to Andrew Bostom's encyclopedic study "The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism").
And - NeverAMuslim - here in Australia you will find lots of kids from Christian families in the secular state schools, and you will find lots of kids from non-Christian families in the church-based (Catholic, Anglican, Uniting Church, you name it) schools.
There is a major difference between, for example, Catholic and Anglican and Jewish faith-based schools, on the one hand, and Islamic Schools, on the other; a difference that resides in the fact that the former faiths, unlike Islam, are no threat to the surrounding society, because they teach the Golden Rule and do NOT teach that their adherents are obliged to attempt, by hook or by crook, to subvert and overthrow the surrounding secular state and transform it into a totalitarian theocracy enforcing a religion-based apartheid (dhimmitude) upon all non-adherents.
*That* is the point that resident action groups and indeed, local Councillors and Mayors will, eventually, have to make: that there is a substantive and glaring difference between the agenda of Islamic Schools and mosques, on the one hand, and the agenda of, on the other hand, Jewish/ Christian/ Buddhist schools and places of worship or religious houses (e.g. Christian or Buddhist monastery, Hindu ashram), such that it is perfectly reasonable to approve and permit the construction of non-Muslim faith-based institutions in this or that city, town or district, while at the same time adamantly rejecting, for the same places, any construction of Muslim institutions.
Dumbledoresarmy: they are too cowardly. They talk about traffic issues, and next the Moslems will come up with a new plan or site, and the council will have no planning argument any more, and the Moslems will build. Because despite their image as highly sensitive, easily offended, they have extraordinarily thick skins. They know we don't really want them in Australia but they don't care. They have each other for comfort and know they can take everything away from us in the end.
True, but having Catholic, Anglican, and Uniting Church schools does push out the children of Muslims into other schools, even if not completely. The kinds of people who want their kids to go to Islamic school aren't going to send them to Christian schools.
We need secular schools where children of Muslims can be as outnumbered by the children of non-Muslims as they are in broader Australian society.
There are a few more details in *this* report from the Australian Broadcasting Commission:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/22/2397732.htm?section=justin
Islamic school plan rejected again
By Nick Lucchinelli
Posted Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:25am AEDT Updated 11 hours 33 minutes ago
'Another application for the establishment of an Islamic school has been rejected by a suburban Sydney council.
'Al Amanah College's plans for a 1,200-student campus at Bass Hill are now headed for a protracted and expensive legal battle after being rejected by Bankstown Council for a second time.
'There was a noticeable security presence at Bankstown City Council last night, with concerns tempers could fray as the proposed college next to Bass Hill High School was debated.
'But the precaution was unnecessary. The developer boycotted the meeting, saying the outcome was pre-determined.
'A few dozen Bass Hill residents were in the town hall as the councillors unanimously rejected the application on the grounds it would clog local streets with traffic.
'Al Amanah's first proposal was also rejected last year on planning and parking grounds. About 800 people turned out to a public meeting over the plans at the time.
'They were amended and the Land and Environment Court told the council the application must be reassessed.
'Some on the council say the college misrepresented itself last year, when it bought the former Bass Hill High School sport fields from the New South Wales Government under the name, Gardenview Apartments.
'The Government said it thought it was selling the land to a housing developer.
'But the issue of faith has never been far from the surface.
'Independent councillor and former mayor Max Parker last night suggested religion was an issue for residents.
"I think that most people that live in the area have got a fear of Muslims in the world as they are today moving into that area, and I think that's a lot of the problem," he said.
'Councillor Parker was the lone voice.
'All other speakers stuck to parking and planning issues.
'There are already several Islamic schools in the area.
' Bankstown Council's leadership insists these plans are simply not up to scratch and has resolved to continue the legal battle.
-'Disciplined campaign'
'The Bass Hill Resident Action Group has fiercely opposed the plan. Its driving force, Vern Falconer, has applauded the council's unanimous decision.
"This is the second time that council have rejected unanimously the application - the original application and the amendment," he said.
"We don't see any difference to the original application, frankly."
Mr Falconer says the school is exclusive and should be rejected on social grounds as much as planning concerns.
'But he stresses that has got nothing to do with the sentiments of Councillor Max Parker.
"Does it detract from a campaign that's been very disciplined, very much focussed on planning and parking issues?" he said.
"No, it doesn't. Councillor Parker is his own person. He's expressed a view tonight."
'White supremacists have tried to muscle in on Mr Falconer's group but he insists its concerns are not racially based.
'Waste of money'
'Al Amanah already runs campuses in Liverpool and Bankstown. The school's principal, Mohamad Al Dana, is confident of success when the developer goes back to court.
"The way that we see it, Bankstown Council could have saved the ratepayers' money and the community money and sat down and resolved the issue," he said.
'Proposals for another Islamic school and a Muslim cemetery have also caused controversy in western Sydney.
'Last year, a proposal for an Islamic school at Camden, on Sydney's south-western fringe, caused public protest.
'Some protesters left pigs heads draped in the Australian flag at the site.
'A specialist in racial tension and geography at the University of Western Sydney, Professor Kevin Dunn, says too much money is spent on such community stoushes.
"The story in Sydney is a sad one..." he said.
"Proponents have to go to appeal on appeal. They're usually found to be OK and allowed and then a permissible development is then permitted which should have always been permitted without the financial burden.
"And it should have been done without the disastrous impact for community relations in the local area."
Professor Dunn says he finds it perplexing that the issue has arisen in culturally diverse Bankstown.
"It changes particularly in the areas where there's a long-standing Islamic presence," he said.
"That's why you would have thought in an area like Bankstown, these sorts of issues might not be so palpable.
"That might be the case. It might be that this school has been legitimately refused on legitimate planning grounds alone."
The case is likely to be dealt with by the end of the year." END
NOTE that the ABC article closes with an opinion from an academic 'specialist in racial tension and geography'.
RACIAL tension? When it's already been mentioned that the residents' action group, opposing the school, specifically rejected attempts by a 'white supremacist' group to join the campaign. So whatever it's about, it's NOT about 'race'.
And I am, sadly, amused by the Professor's puzzlement as to why people who have for some time been exposed to large numbers of Muslims in their immediate neighbourhood, might reject another Islamic school. "Getting to know you, getting to know all about you..."
I am sure many people in the UK, in France, in Scandinavia, in Germany, in India, S Philippines, S Thailand, and indeed, in parts of western and southwestern Sydney itself, not to mention those Swift meatpackers in Nebraska, could tell him exactly why it is that large numbers of Mohammedans do not improve upon further acquaintance. For that matter, Professor Dunn has clearly not read Tim Priest's "The Rise of Middle Eastern {i.e. Muslim} Crime in Australia".
NeveraMuslim
You seem to be arguing that the presence of Christian-run schools, which Muslim children will not/ cannot attend (but if so: why did Magdi Cristiano Allam's parents, in Egypt, send him to a school run by Catholic nuns?), will necessarily force all the Muslim children into Islamic schools.
That is a really strange argument, if you are an Australian.
For if you are an Australian you know full well that the vast majority of Australian children of all backgrounds attend the secular state primary and secondary schools.
Translation:
"As a Communist, I reject Australian culture and can't wait for the nation state of Australia to be eradicated so that the world government can take over."