A Shia, Sunni, Druid, and Copt share "common ground"
And, while condemning violence, they "find no justification in Islam or Christianity for those promoting the insecurity or perpetuating the violence evident in parts of Iraq." A half-truth if ever there was one. Yes, there is very little "justification" for violence in Christianity. Remember that whole thing about "turning the other cheek"? But why is Christianity brought into this in the first place? The issue is Muslims persecuting Christians in Mosul -- not Christians persecuting Muslims nor Christians persecuting Christians, for that matter. As for Muslim persecution of Christians (or "infidels" in general), Islam does indeed offer "justification" -- indeed commandments -- to subjugate them and dominate the world.
"Christians and Muslims condemn violence," by Bill Bowder for the Church Times, October 17:
ISLAMIC and Christian leaders and scholars condemned religious violence in a communiqué issued on Wednesday at Lambeth Palace, at the end of a three-day conference to mark the first anniversary of the Muslim letter “A Common Word”.In a two-page text, 17 religious leaders and scholars from Europe and the Middle East say they are “deeply troubled” by the threats to the Christian community in Mosul, northern Iraq.
“We find no justification in Islam or Christianity for those promoting the insecurity or perpetuating the violence evident in parts of Iraq.” The conference, entitled “A Common Word and Future Muslim-Christian Engagement”, built on the letter sent by Muslim scholars to Western and Eastern church leaders last year. It proposed that the two faiths draw together on the basis of all that they had in common.
In the communiqué, they also announce that in the coming year they will translate “significant texts” from each tradition to be used by the other; promote educational material that provided “a fair reflection of our faiths”; and link academic institutions together to work on shared values.
During a press conference on Wednesday, the Grand Mufti of Egypt, Dr Ali Gomaa, rejected press reports that he had praised suicide- bombers in Palestine. The reports were wrong and had “muddied the picture. . . We are against any persecution of any minorities,” he said.
For the life of me I can't find ONE thing that is in common between Christianity and islam.
Am I missing something here? Did I miss an especially important day of Sunday school where the common ground was covered? Because, from what I know about Christianity and islam, there is nothing at all the same between them.
From above" It proposed that the two faiths draw together on the basis of all that they had in common.
Well, that's good for about three minutes, what will they do the rest of the hour?
I love the way these people dress, I bet it makes them feel...real special...All four of them wearing black...not a good sign...
"Shia, Sunni, druid, Copt" heh heh I like it!
Too bad about the other comment -
"Yes, there is very little 'justification' for violence in Christianity"
Please - there is absolutely no justification for violence in the Holy Faith of Christ, not for any reason.....
Prove me wrong if you can
A Sunni, A Druid, a Copt walk into a bar. The copt asks for a glass of red wine, and the Sunni, angered at the haram behavior of the dhimmi pulls out his scimitar and beheads the copt, while smearing the blood from the Copt's gushing neck hole. The Druid, in an effort to find common ground said, I'll have what he's drinking.
Talk is cheap. How's about a fatwa, guys?
Druid...lol
Druids no longer exist, what passes for Druidism today is nothing but new-age paganism mixed in with drug use and hedonism.
Oh I like the photo. 2 dour faced Muslim thugs who detest having to be near a pagan and a infidel, A bearded British roadapple(aka: Mr.Druid) and a Copt priest who looks like he's going to his execution.
How many Druids does it take to change a lightbulb? 501. One to change the bulb, and 500 to align the new stone.
How many Druids does it take to change a lightbulb? One to hold the bulb, and 12 to drink enough to make the room spin.
From the Final Communique:
"One of the most moving elements of our encounter has been the opportunity to study together passages from our scriptures. We have felt ourselves to have been together before God and this has given us each a greater appreciation for the richness of the other’s heritage as well as an awareness of the potential value in being joined by Jewish believers in a journey of mutual discovery and attentiveness to the texts we hold sacred. We wish to repeat the experience of a shared study of scriptural texts as one of the ways in which we can come, concretely, to develop our understanding of how the other understands and lives their own faith. We commend this experience to others."
Which passages from "our scriptures" did the participants study when it came to Islam? Did they come across Sura 9, by any chance, or 5.33 that modifies the oft-quoted (and lifted, apparently, from the Torah) 5.32? Did any of the hundred-odd "Jihad verses" -- as identified in the Calcutta Koran Petition -- ever swim into their ken?
And did they limit themselves to the Qur'an, or were the non-Muslims able to actually grasp the significance of the Sunnah, that many Muslims regard as of equal, or even greater weight, as expressed in the saying that there is "no Qur'an without the Sunnah"? And if they took a look at the most authoritative collections of Hadith, which Hadith did they examine? And what do any of the non-Muslims present, what does the Archbishop of Canterbury, for example, know about the life of Muhammad, that Perfect Man (al-insan al-kamil)? Does he know, by now, about the decapitation of the bound prisoners of the Banu Qurayza? Does he know of Muhammad's reaction when he learned of the murders of Asma bint Marwan and Abu Akaf? What does he think of the razzia, for loot and women, on the inoffensive Jewish farmers of the Khaybar Oasis? What does he make of Muhammad's remarks about the way to treat Infidels, or about his putting into practice his famous remark that "war is deception" in his own trail-blazing Treaty with Infidels (the model for all subsequent treaties with Infidels), the one made in 628 A.D. with the Meccans at Hudaibiyya? What does the Archbishop of Canterbury, the host of this gathering, actually know, or allow himself to find out, about Islam? An ignorance that is wilful is even more dangerous, and cruel to those whom he should be truthfully instructing and protecting.
He is earnestly self-righteous and convinced of his own Goodness, but he is a wicked man. His effect, on the world, is an evil one. He could not possibly be brought to an understanding of that. It's of a piece with so much else that passeth his understanding.
....they're dressed and ready for the Pagan Pride Parade following their 3-day conference....oh and Halloween too; but no treats for them, I would hold out for a trick or two.
what a repugnant group of individuals
""Druids no longer exist, what passes for Druidism today is nothing but new-age paganism mixed in with drug use and hedonism."
I wanna be a Druid.
Maybe they're on location filming a sequel to some horror film - the costumes are a dead giveaway.
Why is it that when I see these sort of people they are always wearing black ball gowns and silly party hats? Sombre clowns on their way to a circus. I can never take them seriously.
The men in the background, however, seem to be having a good time. I wonder if they're translators, relieved to now be free to laugh at all the bull they had to repeat, with straight faces.