Forthcoming fatwa to ban Yoga

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Dangerous kafir practice for Muslims; may cause "straying"

"Why should we look for other alternatives to exercise and search for peace? Yoga could cause (Muslims) to stray from their faith because its movements are according to the style and traditions of Hinduism."

"Ban on yoga for muslims?" from the Straits Times, October 29:

KUALA LUMPUR - MUSLIMS in Malaysia may be barred from the ancient practice of yoga if they engage in Hindu 'religious elements' during the exercise, a top Islamic cleric said on Wednesday.

Mr Harussani Zakaria, a controversial cleric from the northern Perak state, said the government-backed National Fatwa Council would soon release a decree, or 'fatwa', which would decide if Muslims were allowed to practise yoga.

If Zakaria is a "controversial cleric," surely the National Fatwa Council is mainstream?
'If it involves any faith or religious elements it is definitely not permissible but if it is just a form of exercise that is all right,' Mr Harussani said.

'Muslims cannot practice yoga in its original form because it involves another religion,' he said in response to a call to ban Muslims from engaging in yoga.

Islam is the official religion of Malaysia, where more than 60 percent of the population of 27 million are Muslim Malays who practice a conservative brand of the religion.

The practice of yoga, a popular stress-buster in Kuala Lumpur, dates back thousands of years in India, where it was a favorite of holy men before becoming hugely popular internationally, especially among western celebrities.

Prof Zakaria Stapa, a professor in the Islamic faculty of the National University of Malaysia, had called on Muslims to stop practising yoga, saying it could cause them to 'deviate from their faith', news reports said on Wednesday.

Muslims in Malaysia practised yoga not just for exercise but also as part of the growing urban lifestyle and involved 'chanting mantras while in various positions', he said.

'Why should we look for other alternatives to exercise and search for peace? Yoga could cause (Muslims) to stray from their faith because its movements are according to the style and traditions of Hinduism,' he said.

The fatwa council, one of Malaysia's highest Islamic bodies, last Friday banned women from dressing or behaving like men and engaging in lesbian sex, saying it was forbidden by the religion. -- AFP

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There should be a fatwa issued banning muslims from breathing when in the presence of non-moslems, surey the air they breath is najis (unclean)because it has already passed through the lungs of kafirs.

There should be a fatwa issued banning muslims from breathing when in the presence of non-moslems, surely the air they breath is najis(unclean)because it has already passed through the lungs of kafirs.

Looking at Old Mo from a business point of view, he was a genious: He was laught at and ridiculed, because he couldn't teach humanity anything new. So he decided to turn against humanity. He made it his UPS (Unique Point of Sale): Islam is not about curbing the dark side of man, but encouraging it. Whoever doubts it, must be killed. Very efficient self evolving system. An elegant system. Any programmer could be proud of it.
In a rational world, it would be hacked though, e.g. defeated intellectually and militarily. But in the PC (politically correct) world, hacking is verboten.

And if you equal the PC (personal computer) world with the real PC (politically correct) world, I come to an eerie conclusion: Our rich, peaceful western societies are so deluded, they can't distiguish a real mortal enemy from a virtual one.

Hope that makes sense.

Interesting Times.

The poor chap in the photograph above looks as though he is suffering from severe constipation!!

Sencit

that's why he does yoga ;-)
A Mohammedan would drink camel's urine. Mohammedan homeopathy for constipation: cure similar things with similar things.

No Mohammadan can sit like that...There are more than one kind of yoga. The four basic types are, Hatha yoga as seen in photo, and practiced everywhere,

Karma yoga, of selfless works,

Bhakti, The yoga of adoration, and love,

Yana yoga, the yoga of wisdom.

Raja yoga the combination of all.

Then there are others like 'The yoga of the renunciation of the fruits of action'.

I think Malaysia is right.

Mohammadans doing selfless works, or indulging in adoration and love (to any other than Mohammad), and the development of wisdom...is completely unIslamic, foreign to Islamic law, and should be banned.

You will never hear a Mohammadan renouncing his fruits...

Subjecting Mohammadans to love and wisdom, creates apostates...ban yoga now before it's too late...

duh_swamih

"Mohammadans doing selfless works, or indulging in adoration and love (to any other than Mohammad), and the development of wisdom...is completely unIslamic, foreign to Islamic law, and should be banned"

Another proof of Islam straying away from positive humanity. The only road closed down down from civilisation ("there is a dark side of man but it has to be curbed")and rejected to the underground became the main highway of Islam ("There is a ark side of man but it has to be encouraged") - just to be "different" from the kafir.

"'Why should we look for other alternatives to exercise and search for peace? Yoga could cause (Muslims) to stray from their faith because its movements are according to the style and traditions of Hinduism,' he said."
From the article.

As noted above, breathing is potentially fatwa-worthy, as are growing a beard, wearing a turban or equivalent, etc. Come to think of it, everything non-Muslim would appear to be susceptible to fatwas.

Screw 'em.

A Mohammedan would drink camel's urine. Mohammedan homeopathy for constipation: cure similar things with similar things.

Posted by: buraq_is_dead

So, to cure constipation one should eat s--t?
Or would that be the cure for diarrhea?

What is camel's urine the cure for?

Blow up infidels, mass murder non Muslims, destroy infidel churches, temples and synagogues, rape infidel women and kidnap infidel children is right up the alley for the criminal religion of Islam.

Nothing like developing the mind, exploring human consciousness, to the Mohammedan minds it is scary and bizarre. Islam allows none of that but just total control of every aspect of life. Structure to the extreme but no liberation it is perpetual slavery and misery.

ebonystone

FATWAH:
"Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and may His blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.

Al-Bukhari reported from Abu Qulaba from Anas (Radiya Allahu Anhu) that he said: "The climate of Madina did not suit some people who came from 'Ukul or 'Uraynah. So, the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So, they followed the shepherd, that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and took the camels away. When the news reached the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated iron bars and they were left in Al Harra till they died in that state. Abu Qulaba said: 'they reverted to disbelief after conversion to Islam, stole and killed. In fact, they fought Allah and His Messenger' .
There is evidence from this Hadith that the milk and urine of camels is a treatment for some diseases. This is mentioned expressly in the Hadith narrated by Ibn Abbas from the apostle of Allah that he said: "The milk and urine of camels is a cure for those who suffer from (stomach) "INDIGESTION" [ Ahmad ]."


Camels urine is threfore the cure for everything. It trumps every human concept of medicine because "Inshallah thought urine shall be blessed!"

Once again: This is the programmers first code from which the concept of mohammedanism evolved. Ask any middle aged esothericly touched lady...

Fundie Christians also have a beef about yoga.

This is a recent article from OneNewsNow.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=277508

No, I am not Rosie O'Donnell. I know there is no moral equivalence between a fatwa and some parents in Massena, New York scratching their heads. However, when a story like this hits OneNewsNow or World Net Daily, the virulence of comments made by readers makes anything posted on JW/DW seem milquetoast.

I don’t get it. Some Catholic Trappists and Maryknollers practice yoga with no danger to their faith. Yoga can also be taught in a totally secular manner. This fatwa reeks of myopia.

'Muslims cannot practice yoga in its original form because it involves another religion,' he said in response to a call to ban Muslims from engaging in yoga.


You know, breathing is a bad idea as well. Infidels could have used that air and Muslims would become unpure if they breathed in the kafir kooties. Now who can write the fatwa prohibiting breathing?

What a show of hands!

buraq_is_dead, thanks for the info on the wondrous properties of camel urine.
Still, I think I'll stick to Pepto-Bismol.

Christ changed water into wine for his followers to drink. Mohammed advised his followers to drink water changed into camel's urine. I think this explains a lot.

The Islamic Police never cease to amaze me, because they are paranoid over the thought that someone might actually choose to leave Islam. Well, no wonder they're freaking out, because anyone who did have a choice, without the death penalty hanging around their neck, WOULD leave. At least, anyone in their right mind would leave.

As I can recall they have been trying to ban Yoga 10 years ago, but shamefully unsuccessful.

But they managed to ban muslim school children from practicing indian classical dances (baratha natyam).

So what next? there will be the Halal Yoga coming to you. If they cant ban it, control it, put as much restrictions to it.

Many yoga regulars chant 'Omm' in a very gentle & benign manner, and anyone can look up the meaning of Omm.

http://www.earthways.co.uk/om.html

"The ancient syllable "OM" is the shortest of the Mantras and in Indian tradition it is a word suggestive of God.

The scriptures tell us that "OM" is the planets primordial vibration from which the entire universe has arisen. All other sounds are contained within it.

It is believed that "OM" is the mother of all languages. Repetition of "OM" enables us to maintain mental and emotional calmness, overcome obstacles and enable understanding."

Then again, the Fatwa council consisted by a bunch of clowns that failed to do anything else worthily in life, but resorted to do something ultimately lazy with lots of money.

They need to create tension & news like this to attract public support & government funding so they can enjoy the 'financial facilities'. The more people depend on them, they better they get.

for those who too ignorant to ban yoga with the Om/Aum chanting better think again, its in the Arabic vocabulary as well !!

I normally try to do an hour of fairly intense yoga daily but had recently been slacking off...thanks Muslims for the incentive to get back on schedule!

Om...Concentrating correctly on a long Om, vibrated in low tone, causes the internal dialogue
to turn off. (Other mantra's and techniques can do the same thing).

It is said, that 'God'(not Allah) is in the space between your thoughts, so if you can turn your thoughts (internal dialogue) off, you can experience God directly.

Crowley summed it up...If you want to hear God,
'Sit down, shut up, and listen'

'Sit down' (assume meditation (yoga) position),

'Shut up', (turn off internal dialogue, stop
talking to yourself in your head)

'And listen'...

Mohammadans don't dare allow this because it creates apostates...

I am at a loss to explain why some Christians would object, because the results of meditative yoga are positive...and not the least bit threatening to Christianity...

Because yoga is from a different religion, and its philosophical underpinnings do not match those of Christianity?

Same issue with Shaolin kung-fu techniques, and feng shui, and allathat stuff.

Christians, like the olde English, are notorious co-opters. We quash competitors where possible by bringing them into the fold, where at least the arguments are between family. Hence, old pagan customs such as the Christmas tree and the Easter eggs, and the various RC Saints that bear some resemblance to old Greek gods (not that the Saints are wholesale importation, but why not set up competition?)

In order to make yoga acceptable to most Christians, the same co-opting process needs to take place. Which may or may not be possible.

This one literally made me laugh out loud.

There's absolutely nothing that these people can't screw up.

Rabelais and Swift couldn't do better and they were trying to be funny.

The religion of Pea...brains.

Catholics use the Rosary, counting beads. And repeating a mantra. 'Holy Mary Mother of God'...etc.
The bead technique is borrowed from Hindus who
do the same thing (with a different mantra). Their beads are called mala, and counting them with mantra is japa. Both of these are meditations
using a tool (beads) and a mantra.
They are both designed to shut off internal dialogue and experience God (not Allah) directly.

Odd, 'these Christians' don't seem to mind using a technique developed, and used by pagan religions.

But a valid point is made above about Christmas trees and 'Easter eggs. There was an ancient pagan festival celebrating the Goddess Astarte (Easter), that was complete with rabbits and colored eggs.

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

These Malays are converts from Hindu/Buddhist to Islam....why do they hate their ancestor's faith so much? Have they decided to become 100% slaves of Arabs?
Arabs will treat the Malays just like they are treating the Black Muslims in Darfur!! Wait and watch!

"Wait till we get our Hanes on you!"

Too bad it wasn't a total ban on yoga, without the escape clause.

That would cause New Yorkers to take notice, and perhaps question, Islam.

Swami Vivekananda:

“Mohammed spoke some wonderful truths. If you read the Koran, you find the most wonderful truths mixed with superstitions. How will you explain it? That man was inspired, no doubt, but that inspiration was, as it were, stumbled upon. He was not a trained Yogi, and did not know the reason of what he was doing. Think of the good Mohammed did to the world, and think of the great evil that has been done through his fanaticism! Think of the millions massacred through his teachings, mothers bereft of their children, children made orphans, whole countries destroyed, and millions upon millions of people killed!”

p. 81, Raja Yoga

Interesting... in my native language the word "om" means "about"

Khaybar, good point from Vivekananda. A similar point about Mohammad's "revelations" was made in Richard Bucke's 1990 book "Cosmic Consciousness," in which comparison is made against the revelations of other religious figures, both East and West (e.g., Buddha, Jesus, St. Paul), as well as other figures reporting to have undergone similar types of experience (Plotinus, Dante, William Blake, Walt Whitman). He even discusses examples of "lesser" types of revelation occurring in Moses, Isaiah, Socrates, Swedenborg, Spinoza, Emerson, Tennyson, Thoreau and Ramakrishna.

Of course, Muslims only recognize Mohammad's revelations as having any validity whatsoever, and they could very well kill you if you don't agree.







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