Vacancy-announcement: "Iraq arrests top Qaeda female suicide bomber recruiter," from AFP, October 7:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AFP) — Iraqi forces arrested on Tuesday a woman suspected of heading up the recruitment of female suicide bombers in Iraq, including that of a teenager caught at a market recently with explosives strapped to her waist.Interesting first name, Ibitisma, as it means "Smiling.""Ibitisma Odwan was arrested by our forces," defence ministry spokesman Mohammed al-Askari said.
He said police had caught the 38-year-old woman dubbed "Mother Fatima" in Hommadi village in Baquba's east side after a tip-off."The Al-Qaeda woman was responsible for training girl suicide bombers," Askari said, adding that she had been directly involved in the training of 15-year-old Rania Ibrahim.
Rania, who claimed she was drugged and tricked by her husband and two women into wearing an explosives belt, was arrested in late August at the crowded central Baquba market carrying 20 kilograms (44 pounds) of explosives.
Her shocking case threw the spotlight on Al-Qaeda's methods in the recruitment of young women to their cause.
Baquba, the capital of Diyala province, is one of the most dangerous areas of Iraq. Insurgent groups and Al-Qaeda have continued launching attacks there despite a massive military crackdown by US and Iraqi forces.
A number of attacks there, especially suicide bombings, have been carried out by women.
I'm sort of looking for advice. Many people want to fight back.
But obviously the state will be no help. Now the muslims simply use violence as a whole to push their salafi interpretation.
I do believe it's possible to push this to the other side really easily. However it means (at least in Europe) allying yourself with "extreme right". And while it's true that the nazi's were extreme left, not right, the right is to say the least not exactly kosher. The nazi's were socialists and the current socialists share many points with the nazis. The right shares basically none (except perhaps their immigration stance).
But they're the only ones willing to put up even a basic minimum of violence.
Now doing what these fuckers do, we could do the same. Empowering people who are fed up by teaching or providing bombs, detonators, etc. Or even methods to create basic weapons is not that difficult.
So what does one do ? At what point does this course of action become acceptable ? Clearly if we don't fight, we'll lose. If we wait for govt. (even mere agreement) we'll lose even worse.
Basically at what point do you conclude that your only choices are this, or fighting back once society collapses under muslim pressure, which won't take that long anymore, at least not in Europe.
I can't resist the impulse one minute longer...
To paraphrase the Bard: A man (in this case a woman) may smile and smile, and still be a villain.
if the government refuses to export these jihadis, what can people do? if you fight back, you'll have the state against you. they'll put you in jail while they release the jihadis. now we'll won't talk about the 2nd amendment because europe doesn't any. its the last hope america has got, because the government will do nothing.
tomcpp:
What you're waiting for is the "tipping point". I've never been to Europe, or to England, so all I know of these places is what I read about them.
From what I read, you're closer to the tipping point than we are, in the US (but we're edging ever closer to it).
I understand your pain, though I can't tell you what to do. I'd advise, though, that you don't do anything illegal, because, as you said, Muslims are willing to use the law against non- Muslims.
Defying your country's laws, rather than upholding them will weaken your own grasp, and besides--it would drag you down to Muslim Punk Level, and I know you don't want to go there. The things they endorse and do are wrong, and when it comes down to self defense, you want to be on the side of the angels.
This does not mean you shouldn't prepare yourself, however. Right now, in a room that is on ground level, I can look out my window, and see the nearest mosque. It's across the street.
I have a place to go, when the crap hits the fan, and I'm in the process of adopting a lovely black Labrador.
The dog is intended, aside from being a companion, to psych out the Imam (who gives me filthy looks, whenever he sees me), and the rest of his congregation.
Muslims are superstitious about dogs in general, and fear black ones, in particular. I intend to walk Slater (if I get him) on a regular basis right past that mosque, and make it plain to everyone there that I have a watchdog. I'm also constantly armed with pepper spray.
The only advice I can offer is to be prepared to defend yourself, by legal means, when on the street. If you can't afford an alarm system for your home, get a dog, or a couple of the inexpensive doorknob alarms that are for sale almost everywhere.
For the future, prepare for siege conditions. Have a place to go, and have it stocked with anything you might need. I know that sounds melodramatic, but it can't hurt.
Good luck to you and yours, Tom. Meanwhile, stick around here, and learn some of Mohammedan's dirtier tricks, so you might, hopefully, be able to forestall their tactics, or reverse them.
Abscedere, I hope you get "Slater!"
If I lived around Mohammedans (Please God, No!), I'd get a dog, too. And since we have cats, a sweet pup who'd be friendly with them. A Lab sounds like the ticket. I'd enjoy walking him/her past the evil mosque! And in my WESTERN clothes!
Darcy,
Thanks! I'm acting "as if", and have already bought a safety harness for the car, a walking harness, and a leash.
If someone adopts him out from under me, it will be a little sad, but there are lots of other black dogs out there in rescue shelters who need good homes.
Yes, I intend to promenade with my new pardner right in front of that there mosque!
Slater isn't a pup, but he's young enough to learn behavior and obedience. His bio says he gets along with cats (good thing, since I have so many of them!). The rescue pages are good about telling you what the dog needs, and what the dog can't tolerate.
I do hope I get him. (He grins in photos--I think he might be a bit of a ham...)
Abscedere, good luck with Slater.
We have a black Lab, and a sweeter, more trusting, kind natured and excellent dog doesn't exist. (Except for our German Shepherd!)Of course, I'm not going to tell any muslims that.
Abscedere...Consider 'Slater #1, and Slater #2. Slater needs to know who to bite and who not to bite.
Slater can be trained.
Cats are naturally paranoid about dogs, but if the dog does not chase them, they get over that, and eventually get along, and even become friends.
Also there is nothing quite so deterring as having an attack trained cat thrown in your face...
Take care...