"But we don't burn or close down schools if they are in accord with Islam." Not that this has anything to do with Islam, of course. The Taliban is setting up Sharia courts and ruling according to Islamic law, and Western Islamic apologists (and angry, arrogant, and self-righteous MSA college students) would have us believe that they are all Misunderstanders of Islam.
"Some Afghans live under Taliban rule – and prefer it: In provinces just south of Kabul, the insurgents have a shadow government that polices roads and runs courts," by Anand Gopal for the Christian Science Monitor, October 15 (thanks to Jeffrey Imm):
Porak, Afghanistan - After a gang of thieves had continually terrorized an Afghan neighborhood near here months ago, locals decided they'd had enough. "We complained several times to the government and even showed them where the thieves lived," says Ahmad, who goes by one name.But the bandits continued to operate freely. So the villagers turned to the Taliban.
The militants' parallel government here in Logar Province – less than 40 miles from Kabul, the capital – tried and convicted the men, tarred their faces, paraded them around, and threatened to chop off their hands if they were caught stealing in the future. The thieves never bothered the locals again.
Amputation for theft is mandated by Qur'an 5:38.
In several provinces close to Kabul, the government's presence is vanishing or already nonexistent, residents say. In its place, a more effective – and brutal – Taliban shadow government is spreading and winning local support."The police are just for show," one local says. "The Taliban are the real power here."...
When President Hamid Karzai's government first took power in 2001, "authorities gave every family in Logar two kilos of food," says a local resident who works with an international nongovernmental organization and identifies himself as Abdel Qabir. "When that ran out each family received $200 assistance. But that, too, ran out, and people had no money and there were criminals everywhere.
"So people turned to the Taliban," Mr. Qabir continues. "They may not provide jobs, but at least they share the same culture and brought security."...
An Islamic scholar heads the judicial committee of each district under Taliban control and usually appoints two judges to try cases using a strict interpretation of sharia law, according to locals and Taliban members. "We prefer these courts to the government courts," says Fazel Wali of Ghazni city, an NGO worker. Taliban courts have a reputation of working much faster than government ones, which often take months to decide cases and are saddled with corruption, he says....
Abdul Hakim, a Taliban "Emir of Education and Culture" in Ghazni Province, says his group checks all schoolbooks to ensure that they adhere to their version of sharia law. "We want to ensure that our youth are trained in Islamic education," he explains. "First, they should learn sharia law and religious studies. Then comes science and other subjects.... But we don't burn or close down schools if they are in accord with Islam."
However, locals say that the number of schools in Taliban-controlled territory is dwindling fast. Of the 1,100 schools operating three years ago in Ghazni, only 100 are left, according to the Ministry of Education. Almost no girls' schools remain, except nearly a dozen in the government-controlled provincial center.
The group also brings its austere interpretation of Islam to the areas they control, banning nonreligious music and flashy wedding parties. In Logar, guards at Taliban checkpoints regularly stop vehicles and beat drivers playing music....
"We have no TV. We can't listen to music. We don't have parties," says Abdul Halim of Ghazni Province, who, like others in the area, is a Taliban supporter. "But at least we have security and justice."
Justice, you say?
"...tried and convicted the men, tarred their faces, paraded them around, and threatened to chop off their hands."
Just threatened? If it had been a woman they wouldn't have threatened.They would have messed her up pretty good right off the bat.
This morning I had to take my mom to the doctor. As I was sitting outside in the car returning phone calls I saw a Muslima drive by in her big expensive SUV, wearing that stupid white scarf and I thought to myself, girlfriend, you are promoting the Ummah and working towards the establishment of Sharia in my country. Don't you know that once established, you won't be drivin' yo big car no more? Don't you know that you will be in the full Hefty Bag and locked inside your house, not able to go anywhere by yourself because, as the Taliban said from an article on another thread this morning, "The Taliban...wants to clamp down on all girls’ schools, which they believe encourage female participation in society." Wow, can't have any of that!
These people are foolish at best, diabolical at the worst. Please, use our laws to enslave yourselves. That's really brilliant.
"They may not provide jobs, but at least they share the same culture and brought security."...
"the same culture"? That says more about the people than it does about the Taliban.
But we don't burn or close down schools if they are in accord with Islam.
Is that supposed to be reassuring?
"We have no TV. We can't listen to music. We don't have parties," says Abdul Halim of Ghazni Province, who, like others in the area, is a Taliban supporter. "But at least we have security and justice."
No TV, music or parties? Why should any of that matter? Don't the people "share the same culture" with the Taliban?
They've chosen safety over liberty. In the end, they'll get neither.
Hey, we've got that kind of community policing right here in Obama's Chicago. Just last night "a group surrounded a car in traffic and shot a man inside Wednesday night on Chicago's South Side. At 8:50 p.m., a 1986 Lincoln sedan was stopped at a red light at 4032 S. California Ave. and several surrounded the car, asked a 28-year-old front-seat passenger, “What you is?” and shot him in the hand before he had a chance to respond." http://www.southtownstar.com/news/1225266,southwest-side-shooting-1016.article
Heck we almost have that here look at spencers last post the left have joined with islam in an attack on your free speech shout down dem organized group [storm troopers] have been around since 2003 they go around to college campuses shouting down other views when that doesnt work and theres no cameras they use violance.
This is one of the many reasons i loeft the dem party rampant voter fraud that nres ignores out in the open in ny and no one cares.
Last pres election laroushe had organized right on the corner of 23 st and 5 ave in the open bues to go vote in ohio on the corner of the media worlds biggest city ny some how like the illegal protests they all seemed to miss the mexican and aztlan flags but they missed this in ny if i want to vote dem i can vote as much as i like we are loseing this nation folks and the media is helping with the left obama haveing corsi stopped in kenya to obamas so called truth squad arresting peoiple in missouri very simple folks the taliban in america is already occureing laugh if you like but it is here.
The dem leadership is totally corrupt not getting those that pay its way the soros are trying to take out this nation and we can no longer watch michael savage is organizeing a new party a national party join it vote it.
Heck we almost have that here look at spencers last post the left have joined with islam in an attack on your free speech shout down dem organized group [storm troopers] have been around since 2003 they go around to college campuses shouting down other views when that doesnt work and theres no cameras they use violance.
This is one of the many reasons i loeft the dem party rampant voter fraud that nres ignores out in the open in ny and no one cares.
Last pres election laroushe had organized right on the corner of 23 st and 5 ave in the open bues to go vote in ohio on the corner of the media worlds biggest city ny some how like the illegal protests they all seemed to miss the mexican and aztlan flags but they missed this in ny if i want to vote dem i can vote as much as i like we are loseing this nation folks and the media is helping with the left obama haveing corsi stopped in kenya to obamas so called truth squad arresting peoiple in missouri very simple folks the taliban in america is already occureing laugh if you like but it is here.
The dem leadership is totally corrupt not getting those that pay its way the soros are trying to take out this nation and we can no longer watch michael savage is organizeing a new party a national party join it vote it.
"The police are just for show," one local says. "The Taliban are the real power here."... or
"The police are just for show," one local says. "Islam is the real power here."...
More killings in the last 6 months in Chicago than troop deaths in Iraq in the same period. No Republicans there to blame. Perhaps we should withdraw from Chicago....
"In Logar, guards at Taliban checkpoints regularly stop vehicles and beat drivers playing music...."
At least they do something right! I'd like to have some of those "guards" at a couple of intersections in my home-town, where the idiots pull up to the red light with their super-amplified bass playing "music" that rattles the windows in MY car. I wouldn't mind seeing a few of them yanked out of their cars and slapped around a bit.
"We have no TV. We can't listen to music. We don't have parties," says Abdul Halim of Ghazni Province, who, like others in the area, is a Taliban supporter. "But at least we have security and justice."
I'll bet the trains run on time too.
"Living under the Taliban -- and loving it"
-- tin-pan alleyish title of the article above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMZL5OYKT8U
Afcrapistan has Trains?
Actually, I don't blame the locals for turning to the Taliban, if only to get their law and order straight. Granted, the law and order that would take over is shariah (as opposed to Karzai's shariah), but they did bring the robberies down. And lets face it - shariah ain't as alien to them as it is to us.
flowerknife -
I am referring to a statement made by an apologist for fascism before World War II. After visiting Mussolini's Italy, this learned fool, while admitting the harshness of the regime, said "But the trains run on time".
You're right - the Afghans don't have railroads. Notice that the Indians have an extensive rail system, but then India is not an Islamic Paradise either.
And lets face it - shariah ain't as alien to them as it is to us.
But THEY are the ones who want to change things so that shariah ain't alien to US, either!
Thanks, but no thanks. This is one area where I have no desire to "broaden my horizons", as the saying goes.
If they want shariah they can have it, so long as they STOP calling on the West to "liberate" them from the next Taliban-style government. All the women in burhkas will have to fight or remain behind that cloth. All the men will have to be willing to shave their beards in defiance of the religious rulers or else sit down and be quiet. It's THEIR choice. Any of them that decide they have to live in the West must be willing to forego Shariah. They can NEVER be allowed to have it in the West. Otherwise, we are signing our own death warrant. (Bush, Blair and Brown probably have, already.)
"So people turned to the Taliban," Mr. Qabir continues. "They may not provide jobs, but at least they share the same culture and brought security."...
What! They dont believe in multi-culturalism? So who and why are we fighting in Afghanistan?
However, I agree with Mr Qabir. Would that we had a government that believed in our own culture and brought security.".
Posted by Isabellathecrusader: I thought to myself, girlfriend, you are promoting the Ummah and working towards the establishment of Sharia in my country. Don't you know that once established, you won't be drivin' yo big car no more?
Ofcourse she knows, but she will have security, the knowledge that Muslims are top dogs, and her sons will get to lord it over the Infidels.