"I take each step carefully because I know I am going to sacrifice myself"
The trend of Islamic female-suicide attackers continues to grow. "Just married and determined to die," from the BBC, October 13:
There is a ceasefire in Gaza, but the BBC has found evidence of militant groups preparing for a return to violence. One group, Islamic Jihad, is training female suicide bombers.Middle East correspondent Paul Wood went to meet a Palestinian woman who has volunteered.
The young, veiled woman was sitting quiet and still as the room bustled around her.
The black flag of Islamic Jihad was pinned on the wall behind her and two Kalashnikovs were carefully placed in camera shot. Her husband, an Islamic Jihad fighter himself, tied on her "martyr's" headband.
Umm Anas - not her real name - had just graduated from a programme to train female suicide bombers in Gaza.
Our meeting was a highly-orchestrated propaganda event laid on by Islamic Jihad. It was almost theatre - and certainly Israel accuses the Palestinian leadership of manipulating young women like 18-year-old Umm Anas.
Yet, although she nervously twisted her wedding ring, Umm Anas did not appear to be a cipher.
She was articulate - more so than the men staging the event - and she knew her own mind.
Secret ambition
When she spoke of becoming a suicide bomber, Umm Anas's voice was strong and steady: "This is a gift from God.
"We were created to become martyrs for God," she continued, her eyes burning behind the full face veil.
"All the Palestinian people were created to fight in God's name. If we just throw stones at the Jews they get scared. Imagine what happens when body parts fly at them."
The bomb belt which she hopes will end her life - and kill many Israelis - rested on the table next to us.
Her main motivation in becoming a suicide bomber appears to be religious rather than nationalistic - the fulfilment of a long-held ambition. Even getting married recently hadn't changed her mind.
"When my husband married me, he knew my way of thinking. He knew exactly who I am and based on this he decided to marry me. Marriage doesn't give me a second's doubt."
I asked if that would alter if she became pregnant.
"I would wait until I delivered the baby," she said. "I would give him to my parents and ask them to look after him... Then I would leave them and the baby would remain behind as a piece of me."
Her parents, brothers and sisters did not know.
"Martyrs - male or female - have to work in secret. No one can know about it. We have to be careful not to give our parents any sign of what we are about to do.
"Sometimes, maybe, they can tell and see on your face the signs of martyrdom. They are suspicious but they don't know for certain."
Ready for death
Umm Anas thinks she knows the manner of her death, but she doesn't know the timing.
Good move - get married, and then go become a shahid. Don't even bother being a tilth and popping off more Mohammedans or Muslimahs before you do - just grow up, get married and go to Allah. Heck, you may even be one of the new virgins - even in Janaab, they must need replacements every now and then?
How vastly different is the ‘light’ of Christianity in that one becomes a ‘martyr’ through saving human life - the creation of a loving, all powerful God - whereas, hopelessly mired in the ‘darkness’ of Islam, it's blood demon spirit, ‘alla’, instructs it’s devotees to randomly take human life inorder to gain the same distinction. How pitiful are those, such as Umm Anas, who walk in darkness.
sorry: I meant to say: 'blood [craving] demon spirit'
"We were created to become martyrs for God"
Allah creates people to kill people. Most gracious, most merciful.
How can any group of people create a civilized, prosperous society when this is what is presented as normal? When death is what people aspire to?
If we could just get all of the breeders to become "idiot bombs", then the problem will largely solve itself.
Not completely, as there seems to be a supply of stupid Western women willing to marry into the Religion of Pieces.
Jihad, Islam's version of the Darwin Awards?
Jihad, deepening the gene pool?
Feminist Jihad, have your sex organs mutilated, get treated "respectfully" like cattle, and then blow yourself up!
Feminist Jihad, mutilation, humiliation, boom-sh-Allah boom!
All together now,
Mutilation, humiliation, boom-sh-Allah boom!
Lan astalem,
GoingThere
This 18-year-old did not want to get married and made a point of telling her "shahid wannabe" husband-to-be that her "lifelong" wish was to be a martyr.
Unfortunately, she had to get married anyway. I guess "shahid wannabe" thinks that a few months of sex is better than no sex at all, and besides, getting rid of a wife this way is cheaper than a divorce, confers some "status" on him and anyway, there's another 18-year-old whose parents need to marry off somewhere out there.
If she gets pregnant, I bet she doesn't tell anyone (why go through labor? and what if it's a girl?) and moves up her "martyrdom" date.
So, none of the muslims that blog on the Catholic forums are willing to tell me what the women get in the heaven that sounds like an orgy with 72 virgins and little boys - what do the women get? 72 virginal males and little girls?
I mean, seriously, women are basically things; must wear either full tents, or scarves in very hot climates, in many places they have peep holes to see out of and have to wear gloves too. They can be beaten, stoned (if a rapist doesn't bring a crowd to witness and testify against him that he raped a woman); hanged; 'honor killed'; all for offenses that are mostly not questioned in the males that own her; can be married off when she is a child to old, ugly men (not only physcially, but also ugly personalities too!); and be forced into marriages where there are more than one wife; etc. And then if they die they are condemned to be virgins and raped eternally?
So, what do women who commit murder for allah get? The same?
Of course in islam they put an aura of goodness and blessedness on the evil that they perpetrate. And way too many non-muslims just accept that facade!
From what I can find on the net, search female islam martyr rewards, female suicide bombers of the islamic persuasion get pretty much what they had down here in life. OH F'N JOY...
Slipping on my influenced by the west islamist male hat, "allah I pray that you treat female suicide bombers the same as male. 72 huris now that would be quite some G-on-G action."
Does islam have a frequent suicide rewards program?
Sorry Mr. Spencer I had to go there...both places.
Lan astalem,
GoingThere
A training program???
Like
Now Ladies, Count- One, Two, Three, Press the button.
Once again now.
One. Two, Three, Press the button.
Again now.
One, Two, BOOM!!!
After a bit of clean-up, the Instructor, (a new one) reminds those left. Do not press the button until after you say Three! How many times do I need to remind you?!
Nervous Student answers- Three.
Class goes BOOM once again.
Who ever said "special" Education was easy
The only class I know of where failing would be a blessing.
Reading about the training school brought this to mind:
"First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
"none of the muslims that blog on the Catholic forums are willing to tell me what the women get in the heaven that sounds like an orgy"
My understanding is that there is no particular reward for women in islamic paradise; avoiding hell where most women are destined is sufficient reward of itself.
So, none of the muslims that blog on the Catholic forums are willing to tell me what the women get in the heaven that sounds like an orgy with 72 virgins and little boys - what do the women get? 72 virginal males and little girls?
I watched this documentary called 'Dying for Allah' or something like that and this 'Palestinian' chick was like 'I don't want a happy life [I absolutely hate myself]. I want only to please Allah [my existence is meaningless]. I want to go to Janaat and be a virgin. And I will be the prettiest one.'
Ok, even if that were how it works, which it's not, is being a mutilated undead corpse for terrorists to rape, just like on earth, something to aspire to? How low is their opinion of themselves that they think that that is the be all, end all of existence? Sitting on my couch with a kitty cat with the flu doing incredibly boring phonology homework beats the hell out of that 'life.' My worst day is better than their greatest dreams and they like it that way. Sick, sick people. They will always hate themselves and their own children more than they love life. The Israelis are an excuse for them to live in hell. Rich Muslims in Saudi Arabia think the same way. There is no deprogramming people like that.
let's look at the way the palestinians are being treated by the israelis before we make any judgments
There is a logical problem with the story.
It is very difficult for Gazans to get into Israel these days. The Erez Crossing, for example, is closed as I type. Difficult, but not impossible. No suicide bombers have gotten through from Gaza into Israel in a long time.
Omar says:
“let's look at the way the palestinians are being treated by the israelis before we make any judgments”
Yup…right: the barbarity of randomly blowing up Israelis is somehow justified? Nothing, absolutely nothing justifies acting like animals the way so called ‘palestinians’ are so adapt at. Me thinks you are smokin’ funny weed.
Goodbye Omar too bad you have to leave...
The pathos Omar, is not with self defense, it's the choice of weapons, and the pathetic people who use them, and why.
It is more important to her, to blow herself up for Allah, and take innocent people with her, than to be married and live a normal life. Well, near normal for a muslimah anyway. this woman obviously has mental problems that go beyond the Israeli/'Palestinian conflicts. If you took Allah out of the picture and some sort of reward for martyrdom, few would volunteer...Only the loonies volunteer anyway...
Are you ready to strap on your bomb Omar?
Why not? Are you awaiting instructions from Allah?
Let us hear from some Westerners who clearly saw the deathly sickness in the heart of Islam:
"I studied the Kuran a great deal ..
" I came away from that study with the conviction that by and large there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammed.
"As far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world, and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old,
"its social and political tendencies are in my opinion infinitely more to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself."
- Alexis de Tocqueville
And from the 14th century, Marco Polo:
(The Travels of Marco Polo, Penguin Books 1958, pp 57-58):
"The Muslims in Persia are wicked and treacherous.
" The law which their prophet Mohamet [Muhammad] has given them lays down that any harm they may do to one who does not accept their law, and any appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all..
"And if they suffer death at the hands of Christians, they are accounted martyrs.
"For this reason they would be great wrongdoers, if it were not for the government.
"And all the other Muslims in the world act on the same principle."
And Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592)
"The Assassins, a people dependent on Phoenicia, are considered among Mohammedans as being of supreme devoutness and purity of morals.
"They hold that the most certain way to deserve Paradise is to kill someone of a different religion."
Hugo Grotius, 1583-1645.
"This religion (Mahometanism),
altogether contrived for the shedding of blood,
delights much in rites and ceremonies,
and would be believed without all liberty of enquiry thereinto."
And finally, that quintessence of commonsense, Mark Twain:
"(Moslems) never invent anything, never learn anything.
"Mosques are plenty, churches are plenty, graveyards are plenty, but morals and whiskey are scarce"
- Mark Twain observing Islam in the Valley of Lebanon, from his 'The Innocents Abroad'.
Yep. Centuries ago, intelligent non-Muslim observers of Islam saw with icy clarity its 'death cult' aspects, its sheer murderousness and negativity.
'Altogether contrived for the shedding of blood'...
"the most certain way to deserve Paradise is to kill someone of a different religion.."
The more I look at this thing, the more I become convinced that killing people - murder, human sacrifice - is what Islam is 'about', at its innermost core. The Aztec priest killed his victim but not himself; Islam takes the process to the next step, by offering instant paradise not just to the person who has murdered another on the altar of allah, but to the person who, in the act of carrying out that murder, simultaneously 'offs' him or herself. (If you just kill yourself without performing the all-important blood sacrifice of a Designated Prey Item [an 'enemy' of Islam, an 'immoral' woman, a dhimmi] - the murder - you don't get anything).
Women and dhimmis and non-Muslims exist as a pool of prospective murder/ sacrifice victims, that is, to provide tickets to paradise for Muslim murderers - just like a herd of sheep or cattle provide the lambs or calves from among which, the sacrificial victims will be selected.
The invention of modern explosive devices has merely allowed Islam to express its own inner logic - 'to slay and be slain in the cause of allah' - more spectacularly.
Descendant, I think you were absolutely correct the first time. Blood demon spirit sounds exactly right.
Isn't it obvious from this very subject that Mohammad made all this up? His main preoccupation being with his pee-pee, he got the brilliant idea to enslave women under the guise of marriage so as to ensure a never ending supply of women for sex and made sure, on pain of death, they would have no options to get out of it. He knew that the majority of the men around him wouldn't be able to resist an abundant and enforced bootie call, so he got the army he wanted. Being the misogynistic liar that he was, he convinced all the men and all the women that women were nothing, but added a little spice by spreading the lie that Islam is good for women. I mean, pul-eeeze. A couple of generations of keeping women down and the philosophy has been entrenched, enforced and endured ever since.
I understand the concept of Stockholm Syndrome but honestly, you really don't have to be very bright to be a Muslim. But I guess if they continue to be isolated and brainwashed that if they protest in any way they will be beaten, maimed or killed, the only way out would be to blow themselves up. Who would have ever thought that suicide would give a person hope?
Through the entire interview was not one question asked concerning the future victims of these robot-women? Not one comment about how many lives besides their own they were planning to take. These are trained MURDERERS. Who CARES what they might do with their own pregnancies - what about their future victims, who will probably include other women (pregnant or not) children, old folks, babies .... Why aren't they arrested for premeditating violence, or contracting for murder?
"All the Palestinian people were created to fight in God's name. If we just throw stones at the Jews they get scared. Imagine what happens when body parts fly at them."
-stupid female suicide bomber in training
These people are animals.
These women should have been aborted.
"These women should have been aborted." Mike T
I guess they agree with you - since they essentially abort themselves, sooner or later - unfortunately they take other people with them when they go.
I will add, to my observations above, that *this* is why the nuclear bombs already possessed by Pakistan, and Iran's headlong drive toward the possession of nuclear weapons, give me the heebie-jeebies.
Nuclear weapons are perfectly safe in the hands of Israel. They are relatively safe even in the hands of atheist communists - for the rulers of China, for example, being frank materialists for whom this world is all there is, have no dreams of Paradise, and are also well aware of the deadly effects fallout would have upon their own gonads, and upon that very material world that they would like their cosseted grandchildren to inherit.
But some of those who are 'high' on the spiritual crack cocaine that is Islam, are perfectly likely to want to reiterate what this 'palestinian' Arab Muslim woman is planning to do - only on the grand scale, planet wide, with the aid of multi-megaton devices.
If they had a device like the Death Star in Star Wars, capable of annihilating the entire planet with one press of a button, I have absolutely no doubt that there are some who would use it.
Ka-boom, ka-boom, ka-boom: planet earth turns to ash, all the dirty kafir go to hell (so the Muslim nuclear assassin supposes) and all the Muslims who perish at the time, or in the desolation of an atomically-poisoned biosphere, become shaheeds and ALL go to paradise with murdered Infidel souls as their 'ticket of entry'.
We are dealing with a death cult, people.
If Islam is a distillation or absolutising of elements of the Arab culture of the 8th/ 9th century, if Mohammed represents (or was invented to represent) what those who painted his portrait regard as 'the perfect man', then all one can say is this: those chosen elements of Arab culture, and that figure, Mohammed, are a classic formulation of what Freud called Thanatos, the Death Wish.
They make the Thuggees look trivial.
Israel develops medical breakthroughs, Japan sophisticated consumer electronics, Germans excel at precision optics, the US cutting edge military technology, and the islamists come up with exploding underwear. -Wild Thing
May they all predetonate.
What a sad and tragic way to look at the treasure of life that God has given to us all.
So many people,young and old who lay in hospitals from the ravages of a disease, oh how they would love to have this young womans physical health so that they may experience the adventure of life. And yet this young woman not only wants to destroy herself ,but the lives of others in her belief of a false god, since no true god would ever bring such hate on his flock through his teachings if he was a real god.
This not a god of love,or of live but a god of death --he is the angel of death and his curse is upon these followers.
There will be no forgiveness, there will be no redemption if they follow the angel of death.
beware of false prophets for they are among us now!
Her main motivation in becoming a suicide bomber appears to be religious rather than nationalistic - the fulfilment of a long-held ambition.
-stupid female (she's not a woman) suicide bomber in training
A RELIGIOUS ambition? Don't listen to anyone who ever tries to say that this wouldn't happen if Israel weren't there.
let's look at the way the palestinians are being treated by the israelis before we make any judgments
Posted by: Omar118 at October 13, 2008 4:42 PM
Oh STFU Mohammedan Omar. Go whack your brainless head to your non-existent moon god.
Stories like these are making me lose my compassion for Mohammedan women. And I used to have quite a lot of that compassion.
May they all pre-detonate.
Posted by: jdamn at October 13, 2008 6:31 PM
Oh, yes.
Enjoy yourself in Hell, ladies, as that's where Mohammed your false prophet says you go. Hey - he went there and saw you female Mohammedans hanging! Do you dare dispute the word of Mohammed???
What really gets me is the tone of this BBC report - it's hushed, almost reverential. Where is the scream of horror that we should be hearing between the lines?
This reporter - Paul Wood - is not a Mohammedan cult member, so far as I know.
Surely, somewhere in the back of his mind, the remnants of common sense should have been clawing up the walls, screaming at him -
"This is mad! These people are psychopaths! This is evil! Evil! Evil! Evil! This woman is preparing herself to become a human sacrifice and commit mass murder while she does so. Get the hell out of here! Get out!!"
Why couldn't Paul Wood be honest and say: "my flesh crawled, the hair stood up on the back of my neck, the moment I got out of that hell-hole I leaned over the gutter and vomited. And then I raced for the shower and scrubbed myself for an hour to remove the psychic stink."
There was an interesting article in the Jerusalem Post when I checked in online this morning; Barry Rubin's "The Region: Why the Middle East is Sick".
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017520759&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
He's getting there, though he still has a long, long way to go. The text he quotes from Al Aqsa TV points clearly to the source of the sickness - Islam, Islam, Islam.
I advise the informed non-Muslims here to hop on over to JPost and provide much-needed clarification and focus in the talkbacks, or perhaps in a Letter to the Editor.
Yeah, you know I'm so used to them doing this sort of thing that I'm not shocked by it anymore, and THAT is disturbing.
Don't we, as members of the human community have a right to protect our fellow man from this? I don't want to throw all the Muslims under the bus either, no matter how much they tick me off. I don't want to lose my Catholic sensibilities and forget what I'm fighting for in this war with them. I don't even want this young lady, who could be my daughter, to kill herself. But as I hear the continuous loop throughout our society of "Islam is a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of peace" and can't get anyone in the Muslim community to hear what I'm saying, let alone get them to admit that they actually promote this activity, what will it take to stop it?
"We were created to become martyrs for God,"
She means of course Allah, the fake.
What does it mean to sacrifice you life for a fake?
You have been faked out...big time.
Umm Anas - not her real name..has no real mind either. It was destroyed by Allah, and all the
Mohammadans in her life that reinforce these fake ideas. She did not invent martyrdom, people who decline to martyr themselves invented it.
Islam itself is the muddy spring the sun sets in.
Black stinking oozing mud, that can only produce ugly. Nothing of beauty will grow in it...Umm Anas - not her real name, is proof...
Here is a text from a Muslim cleric, Sheikh Ragheb Harb; it was unearthed and shared here (as an example of 'what Muslims have said') by a poster called 'Mark', at jihadwatch, three years ago:
"You shall begin to live once you have killed yourself.
"The "you" in you is none other than Satan in disguise.
"Kill him and you will be saved.
"Muslims are lucky because they can accomplish this self annihilation in accordance with divine rules.
"For Islam has an answer to every imaginable question. All an individual needs to do is to obey the rules without posing questions, without seeking variations".
- Sheikh Ragheb Harb, "Islam is the Strongest Religion," 1983, p.22
The aim and object of Islam is the reduction of the self - the person, the individual being - to...nothing.
Superficially, this may appear similar to the effort against 'selfishness' in faiths such as Christianity and Judaism, or the attempt to achieve enlightenment, in Hinduism and Buddhism.
But in Islam it appears to mean a reduction of the self to a robot unquestioningly obeying the Quranic programming.
Tawfik Hamid expresses the same idea, compellingly, in his article, 'The development of a jihadist's mind' (published in Jerusalem Post, 17.1.2008).
'On the way there [to the Jemaah Islamiyah mosque] Muchtar emphasized the central importance in Islam of the concept of al-fikr kufr, the idea that the very act of thinking (fikr) makes one become an infidel (kufr). (In Arabic both words are derived from the same three root letters but have different meanings.)
'He told me, "Your brain is just like a donkey [a symbol of inferiority in the Arab culture] that can get you only to the palace door of the king [Allah].
'To enter the palace once you have reached the door, you should leave the donkey [your inferior mind] outside."
'By this parable, Muchtar meant that a truly dedicated Muslim no longer thinks but automatically obeys the teachings of Islam.'"
Do not question. Do not think. In the end, Do Not Be, and unmake others; Kill-and-Die. Become the Program - Qur'an-Sira-Hadith.
Beheading = the symbol of Islam. Behead another - transform a human body into a body without a head, without a face, an Unperson.
But the Beheaders also behead themselves, psychologically and intellectually, by doing their level best to shut down all independent thought and feeling and become purely a vehicle for the Program (memorising the entire Qur'an = programming). The suicide assassin, fitted with high explosive, goes a step further: the entire body is violently disassembled; curiously enough, they usually succeed in blowing their own heads off...beheading themselves, in actual fact.
The Ummah - People Without Heads.
Where are the psychologists who specialise in serial killers and psychopaths and sociopaths?
Where are the anthropologists who study human sacrifice cults?
Where are the cult deprogrammers? The exorcists (not the hollywood variety, the real kind, they do exist, here and there)?
These are the people we need, to deconstruct this thing which is Islam.
In the meantime, Isabellathecrusader - remember what our Lord coolly told his disciples? That he was sending them out to 'heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons?'
'Umm Anas' and her handlers, in a very real sense, right now, fit into all three of those categories: dead, sick, possessed.
Do we, Yeshua's people, believe in Him enough, to exercise the authority he gave us?
Isabella - say the Rosary on behalf of 'Umm Anas'. I'll pray for her, too. "Nothing is impossible with God [YHWH]".
You got it, Dumbledores!
*****************ACTION ALERT!!!******************
Hi guys, we need your help.
Dr. Steven Choi of the Irvine City Council who was attacked by CAIR for calling them a "dangerous Islamic organization" at a council meeting back on September 18th asked me this evening if I could attend tomorrow night's meeting at 6:00pm at the City Council Chamber, Irvine City Hall (One Civic Center Plaza, corner of Alton and Harvard). Another activist suggested showing up at 5:30pm to get your name on the list to speak before all the CAIR weenies sign up.
Is there anyone in Orange County or even L.A. who could show up tomorrow night to support Dr. Choi? It will probably be pretty fun since the CAIR folks think they are going to go in an harass Dr. Choi into resigning. You can read the letter they sent him here:
http://www.anti-cair-net.org/press_013_08
Wouldn't that just be too bad if real American patriots were there to counteract CAIR's nonsense? Let's get a group of freedom fighters to go and support the good doctor. I've already contacted the ACT! for America Chapter in Orange County and they are planning to be there.
Thanks everybody,
Isabella
Isabella - interesting update re. the Steven Choi affair. I'm on the other side of the Pacific, of course, and in no position to assist - but gee I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that meeting. I'll say a prayer for you - and for Mr Choi. Here's hoping there are other jihadwatchers in the area who will turn up. Good luck and God bless! - and afterwards, do let Mr Spencer and the rest of us, here, know how it goes.
Isabellathecrusader...CAIR's letter to Choi was a typical white wash job, trying to make themselves appear on the up and up, which we know, they are not. CAIR hides behind the false front of respectability...I wish I could be there to help pull down the false front of CAIR, but I am too far away...But your efforts and those of others is greatly appreciated.
Hey guys, just an update. Members of ACT! for America and the United American Committee showed up to the meeting this evening, which may still be going on. I will update you when I find out more. Thanks for your good wishes!