Muslims give Obama a "pass" on religion

More on Obama's win-win situation with Muslim voters. "Why Muslims give Obama a pass on religion," by Sherri Day for the Tampa Bay, October 12:

Barack Hussein Obama, a devout Christian politician running for president, is not and never has been a Muslim.

But even Muslim voters seem to understand reasons for the clear distance he's trying to put between himself and them.

"The Muslim community is sophisticated enough to know how politics work in this country, the nuances of politics and what people have to know to get elected," said Ali Khan, the executive director for the American Muslim Council, a Muslim advocacy organization based in Chicago. "I think Barack Obama is getting a pass."
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Ben Jaoudi, an Army veteran from Brooksville, said Obama's campaign strategies [distancing himself from Islam] don't offend him. A Democrat, he plans to vote for the Illinois senator next month. But he thinks Obama has bigger problems than falsely being thought a Muslim.

"Prejudice still exists here," Jaoudi said. Obama "is educated, and he's smart. They don't care because he's black. They're going to pick McCain. You know it, and I know it. If he (were) Muslim, he'd be wiped off the map completely."...

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Yes, the Muslim-American community is nothing if not sophisticated.

"Barack Hussein Obama, a devout Christian politician...:


I am not sold on this..

Ah, yes, "prejudice still exists here" in the U.S. As opposed to the long-ago ending of prejudice against Copts in Egypt, Iranian Christians, Saudi Shi'ites, blacks in Sudan, Bosnian Muslims in the Balkans, non-Han in China, Kurds in Turkey and Iran, Chinese in Malaysia, etc. etc.

Yes, "prejudice still exists here." And can most be found in the mirrors of those who declare its existence.

Hopefully, Obama will be completely different as president and do to the ummah what he did to Rev Wright.

I have hopes. Messiah will deliver.

Greetings:

Muslims = Masters of Deceit

Obama's is neither Muslim nor Christian. Lest anyone forget, Marxism is - for its practitioners - religion.

Wow. The Muslims have really gotten far in seven years.

'Sorry to disappoint them, but some of us have brains, know our history and know when we see a crock of bull. I don't know of any place in the U.S. nor can any of my friends or associates tell me where Muslims are being abused here. And what's so prejudiced about not wanting to starve to death or lose our freedom of speech, freedom to assemble, freedom to think for ourselves and not become slave labor to a new version of the Comintern? Some of us learned that lesson and recoil in horror because the system was horrible, and Obama wants to reinstate it because he thinks he'll be the one running the place. Thanks but no thanks.

Every time I see an Obama for Change advertisement, I think, go ahead, vote him in and you'll get change all right. The question is, will we be able to survive it?

Barack Hussein Obama is not "a devout Christian politician".

This man (along with his wife and children) sat in an America hating, racist church for 20 years. He was close friends with the America hating, racist pastor of that church. He is friends with an unrepentant domestic terrorist. He voted in favor of infanticide. (Look up his votes on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act legislation.)

Whatever else he claims to be, "devout Christian" he is not.

So what is Obama, an under cover agent for the Comintern or the Caliphate?

I could use some voices at the combox of a post I did Here.

We seem to have an "enlightened" scholar of Islam who is attempting to help me understand how "Jihad" = "To struggle within oneself".

Anyone want to jump in on the fun?

The "Un-Written Amendment to the Constitution of USA"...'the future Presidents of USA to obtain Character Certificate for elligibility from the Muslim Clergy (? Ummaa) before being 'sworn-in' for office in Oval.

TAQUIYA!!!

So what is Obama, an under cover agent for the Comintern or the Caliphate?

Posted by: MorrisMinor


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Both.


The caliFFFate is worse just by the way.

I don't think Americans are stupid for wanting to vote for McCain, it's all just a question of a lack of alternatives. Obama is the kind of politician who gets his popularity from not taking a stand on anything. McCain took a chance on the surge and it worked.

The race question works in Obamas favor in many ways. Lot's of white Americans seem to be voting for him out of some irrational guilt feeling syndrome, as if they hope they can redeem their sins as a race by voting for a black man.

Oh, come on guys, you are smarter than this horseshit.

I am a jew and I am voting for Obama.

Obama is a christian. End of story. Everything else is lie, rumour and innuendo.

He is by far the better candidate and his plan even wins better marks from conservative economists than McCain's plan.

McCain has been running a god-awful campaign. I would have almost voted for him, however, until his picked this utter loser Palin to be his VP. He may have given his ultra-conservative base an orgasm over her, but the rest of the country is obviously turned off, and rightfully so. She is, put bluntly, terrible, terrible, terrible. No experience, no ability to think independently. She is a horrible drag on the ticket. McCain must have been thinking with his wiener when he picked her, for there are at least 10 really good GOP women who would have been terrific running mates.

So, cut the whisper campaign. It's nothing but horsehit, through and through.

IMHO, some of the issues that Sen. Obama have positions on calls his Christian faith into question. Plus some of the people he associates with, one of whom Louis Farahkan calls him a "messiah". There is a audio/video on it. Any good Christian would reject it as false idol worship.

At least this one rejects that nonsense and only accepts the true Messiah from Nasareth.

bonncaruso,

"Oh, come on guys, you are smarter than this horseshit.

I am a jew and I am voting for Obama.

Obama is a christian. End of story. Everything else is lie, rumour and innuendo.

He is by far the better candidate and his plan even wins better marks from conservative economists than McCain's plan.

McCain has been running a god-awful campaign. I would have almost voted for him, however, until his picked this utter loser Palin to be his VP. He may have given his ultra-conservative base an orgasm over her, but the rest of the country is obviously turned off, and rightfully so. She is, put bluntly, terrible, terrible, terrible. No experience, no ability to think independently. She is a horrible drag on the ticket. McCain must have been thinking with his wiener when he picked her, for there are at least 10 really good GOP women who would have been terrific running mates.

So, cut the whisper campaign. It's nothing but horsehit, through and through."

Need to do a gentle correction here. Would it suprise you that a certain Louis Farahkahn of the Nation Of Islam called Sen. Barak Obama a "messiah" ? That is idol worship and making Sen. Obama a false prophet. Sen. Obama would reject it as any good Christian as false idol worship. Even a good Jew would do the same. Christians have a Messiah already and IMHO this is just plan WRONG. There is a audio/video to back this up, so argument is needed.

I only follow the REAL MESSIAH from Nazareth.

Here is the YouTube video of this shocking proclaimation of Obama as a "messiah".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE

"Barack Hussein Obama, a devout Christian politician...:


I am not sold on this..

Posted by: pulsar182 at October 12, 2008 5:09 PM

Me neither.

BTW, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, Gov. Bobby Jindel of LA, and Rep. MIke Pense of IN are the conservitive seedlings for the future reform of the GOP. Keep a close eye on them.

So, cut the whisper campaign. It's nothing but horsehit, through and through.

Posted by: bonncaruso at October 13, 2008 8:07 AM

Yours is the "horseshit." Along with your crude and pompous comment. You sound like a Hussein supporter. A real PC MoonBat.

OK, I'm ready for your comeback - I'm a "hater," right? You MoonBats are so predictible. So, ready for your crude insults!

darcy,

It is not suprising that there are those folks who so fanatical about their support for Sen. Barak Obama, an example which was posted on this thread that it is no wonder that a lot of people in the USA are getting turned off by this year's Presidential election because of this making politicos such as Sen. Obama into a messiah. In my hometown there are a number of McCain/Palin signs and a few Obama/Biden signs. More signs are for either state or federial House or Senate canidates. It could be because of all the mudslinging that has been going as well as the demonizing of one canidate (McCain) and the making of a godlike figure, Obama.

From post above: Obama is a christian. End of story. Everything else is lie, rumour and innuendo.

So you have researched all the claims about Obama's religion, and are in position to refute each and every claim...How about starting with 'why' Louis Farrakhan called Obama Messiah. After that you can explain away his living in Indonesia, attended Quran memorizing Islamic schools, the fact that his father and stepfather were muslims, that his Kenyan family are muslims. And you can maybe explain why under Egyptian sharia law, he is an apostate.

Lies, rumors, innuendo...a very wide brush you paint with...full of the white wash paint of denial...Obama may be a Christian, but I would never recognize him as such because he is radically different than most Christians I know...Louis Farrakan has never before called a 'filthy kuffar' Christian' Messiah. This is idol worship consistent with many Obama supporters...

The reporter opens her article with "Barack Hussein Obama, a devout Christian politician running for president, is not and never has been a Muslim."

Doesn't sound too objective to me. I could see saying "Barack Hussein Obama, a Christian politician running for president, is not a Muslim."

But why add "devout"? Why add "never has been a Muslim"? She's crossing the line I think. This bio says she's black. Can blacks be objective about Obama?
http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:3Se1Fs9ZrPYJ:www2.sptimes.com/pdfs/profiles06/day_sherri.pdf+%27sherri+day%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

Obama has dropped more than a few hints that he is sympathetic to islam:
1. He once said that, if things should turn ugly politically for muslims, he will stand with them. Why not just say he will stand with any oppressed group?
2. His support for Raila Odinga of Kenya who wants to implement Sharia
3. In a 2007 interview, he recited the islamic call to prayer and said it is one of the prettiest sounds on earth
4. In his book he rants against 'racism' in the US. How come no ranting about how the muslims have butchered Christians in Indonesia especially since he claims to be a Christian and have lived in Indonesia? Oh he just conveniently didn't know about that right?
5. In a september interview with Stephanopoulos, he mistakenly said, '...my muslim faith'. Freudian slip?

He was never than Muslim and the Muslim in america know that. I was than Ms Clinto supporter as many white muslim where but we will vote for him anyway.
We donot like the Bush -McClain hate and fear monger
and they hostile to Islam.
He never said the statement that every muslim say to become muslim, haveing it in prayer doesnot count in
becomeing muslim the person must say the words himself whilenot in prayer. Reading those words in the Koran doesnot make one muslim at all.

Defenderofislam,
Read my post again, I never said he is a muslim, just that he is a sympathiser of islam. Or perhaps your english is so rotten that you don't understand that? Then go study english first before posting any nonsense - I can barely understand what you are saying.

Obama is another left wing idiot who subscribes to the muslims-are-victims crap.

So you don't like Bush and McCain? Well your muslim brothers are attacking and killing Christians who are citizens in Iraq, Egypt, Nigeria, etc etc while muslims get a good life in the West.. guess what? I don't like your lousy religion either!

Hmm, you have to read the words yourself to become a Muslim? That's not what all the Imams say on MEMRI.

That's not what happened here, in the name of Islam.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/023054.php#comments

Aren't we told constantly that any children born to a Muslim father are Muslims?

I'm wondering why Obama's parents had him attend that madrassa in, where was it, Indonesia, I think? None of the little Christian kids I've ever known had to do that

Defender, are you practicing a little taqqiyah on us? Silly goose.

Obama is not a devout Christian.

Devout, Bible-believers do not promise that their first presidential act will be the reinstatement of the Freedom of Choice Act allowing partial birth abortions. They don't use legalisms as an excuse to support infanticide (by voting against the Infant Born Alive Act 4 times.)

Christians don't plan marches or anything else with racist hate mongers like Louis Farrakhan.

The don't sit in church on Christmas morning listening to a raving black nationalist like Jeremiah Wright "preach" about Bill Clinton's Oval Ofiice indiscretions. Yes, check the date on that video. Unbelievable.

The real chain-smoking, tax raising, terrorist cohort Barack Obama has been superbly protected by his fifth column comrades in the press.

"We donot like the Bush -McClain hate and fear monger
and they hostile to Islam." --Mohammedan "DefenderofIslam"

Nope - it's MOHAMMEDANS who are Haters and fear-mongers. MOHAMMEDANS.

Hostile to Islam? GREAT! THE WEST SHOULD BE 100% HOSTILE TO ISLAM BECAUSE ISLAM SAYS TO KILL US ALL (SEE: KORAN).

Islam sucks.

Yo, Defendah,

When you say Bush and McCain "hate," did you mean they both hate getting attacked by Islamofascists?

Are you related to Naseem? What the heck am I saying...DNA is useless when your mother is your sister AND your aunt's second cousin.

Obama is a devout Christian only for the purposes of getting elected. He will shed that the second he becomes president (if we are pathetic enough to let that happen) like the snake he is, sheds it's skin. When talking about Christians Jesus said you will know them by their love. That is the most glaring concept that is totally absent in the Obama campaign.

And for the record, does Defender think we are stupid? Since when does a white American Muslim not know basic English spelling, grammar and punctuation? Trust me, he's not voting, unless he's one of those 30,000 convicted Floridian felons that the Obama campaign has been registering lately.

*****************ACTION ALERT!!!******************

Hi guys, we need your help.

Dr. Steven Choi of the Irvine City Council who was attacked by CAIR for calling them a "dangerous Islamic organization" at a council meeting back on September 18th asked me this evening if I could attend tomorrow night's meeting at 6:00pm at the City Council Chamber, Irvine City Hall (One Civic Center Plaza, corner of Alton and Harvard). Another activist suggested showing up at 5:30pm to get your name on the list to speak before all the CAIR weenies sign up.


Is there anyone in Orange County or even L.A. who could show up tomorrow night to support Dr. Choi? It will probably be pretty fun since the CAIR folks think they are going to go in an harass Dr. Choi into resigning. You can read the letter they sent him here:

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/press_013_08

Wouldn't that just be too bad if real American patriots were there to counteract CAIR's nonsense? Let's get a group of freedom fighters to go and support the good doctor. I've already contacted the ACT! for America Chapter in Orange County and they are planning to be there.

Thanks everybody,

Isabella

Isabellathecrusader I vote at all election for the past 40 years with no problen. I was born with than speech problen never learn english gammar in public school but got a in history, math and science. I can enter college with taken SAT or College Broad test due to than court ruleing. The demoncrate are going to win the president race the republicium dirtly tricks are back fireing on then. Deregularing bank and wallstreet anymore willnot solved the prodlim, tax cut arenot the answer either to the problim.

DefenderofIslam,
I've never known any native english speaker to write in such stilted english. You can drop the act.

Meanwhile I suggest you stop listening to your imams and go read some of the articles over at www.islam-watch.org

Sorry Defender, I don't believe you.

NightHawk give me your real name and address so I can take legal action against you I was than nautral born america you libel me.

I'm quaking. ; )

There is medical evidence that I was born this way so to say that I than not than america is than criminal act of libel of my person character. Unless nighthawk say he or she is sorry.

"Oh, come on guys, you are smarter than this horseshit."

Typical. I find Obama supporters to be mostly intolerant and rude.

BTW, I don't give a rip what Obama's religion is. What scares me about him is that he is a socialist. Obama's socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America [which describes itself as the largest socialist organization in the United States and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International] for an Illinois state senate seat. Obama's stint as a ‘community organizer’ in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored.

Not to mention that his handlers and backers are involved with terrorists [read Islamic] on a global scale.

You know Defender, I was going to let this pass but I think won't. Looking over your posts here it becomes pretty clear that you are not an honest person. There is no way you've lived in America for forty years because your language betrays you. Even the most ignorant human would have picked up the language by now and the fact is, you write like you speak, don't you.

Secondly, you come to this site and try to tell us that we don't know what we are talking about when it comes to Islam. Then you go and prove the point we've been making by threatening to sue NightHawk for what, because you got your feelings hurt? Because you lied, and N.H. busted you, now you're throwing a tantrum? Don't you guys ever take a look inward and see the problems you create for yourselves with your incessant whining, crying about nonexistent victimhood and acting out with violence or threatening to hurt somebody when you are exposed or when you don't get your way?

I feel very sorry for you. In fact I pray for you at church whenever I attend mass. It is clear that you are desperately insecure and lashing out at others here, where we can go back and read the sequence of your posts, only confirms this. I hope you will get it together and learn how to play nice with the other kids. I hope you will leave Islam and find some peace. But as for your threatened lawsuit against NightHawk, with it's imaginary offenses as its basis, begone, you have no power here.







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