UK Muslims stage protest over being questioned at airports

"We cannot bear the psychological torture anymore. The authorities treat us like terrorists, as well as putting pressure on Afghans to become informers and spies, but we are not going to be intimidated and pressurised."

Great! That means you're getting the hell out of Scotland, where you DON'T BELONG?

"The authorities treat us like terrorists"

If the shoe bomb fits.

"The authorities treat us like terrorists"

If the shoe bomb fits.

Posted by: Winged_Hussar at October 15, 2008 5:28 PM

Really.

And don't forget the car bomb, the roadside bomb, and the human suicide/homicide bomb. The "Religion of Pieces" just loves their various bombs. Barbarians.

The Irish were "profiled" for most of the last 30 years with special check-ins, filming etc. and we accepted it. But then we aren’t members of the religion of peace and love.

If muslims enjoy special scrutiny, just imagine how they will enjoy mass deportations.

Ijust hope the police do not have automatic garage door openers the remotes might set off the poor tortured muslims cell phone bombs.

Strathclyde Police..thank you. Please keep it up. Also, please continue to keep any terrorists from boarding planes heading to the US, or elsewhere.

Very glad to see you following suit with El Al Airlines, the official Israeli airline, where they are not afraid to hurt the feelings and thoroughly question/detain those who wish them harm.

Yawn.

Your outrage bores me.

Find a new act*.

*Perhaps you could act like citizens for a change.

Madison, and I know what I will find there: large numbers of angry Muslims pretending that I am fabricating the jihad terror threat...

You are in effect descending into h-ll to preach to demons. Some of them have one foot on a banana peel and the other in chaos.
I know you are aware of that, so basically good luck...

We need more of this!! Strathclyde Police, you rock!!!

If anything the civil war will start in Scotland before England.
Many people forget that although the picture painted of the Scots is friendly, warm, jovial and welcoming(even though the relationship with the English has always been strained), they are fiercely Nationalistic and proud of their culture and heritage. They repelled the Romans and fought against the English; people wanting to take over their land/culture.
It will be interesting to see what happens in Scotland when the population of Muslims reaches 10% as it has in England(the figure of 1.6million is bull).
It will be interesting to see how the Scottish people react and if they still are fiercely patriotic as known to be.
However, I have my doubts. They have done nothing about the amalgamation and disbanding of their Armed forces by Whitehall and although they have a Scottish Parliament, most of the laws come via Brussels.
Will the Scots repel Jihad, or will they simply lie back and let it happen as we in England are doing?

Like I said it will be interesting to see and if there is any fightback against Islam at all it will most definitely start North of the Border.

Great Britain is exhausting itself in security measures, hundreds of cells to monitor, facilities and public transportation to safeguard while segregation, special considerations, state funded separate Muslim only schools continue to be DEMANDED of the government, blaming and turning against the very government that instituted and implemented the mass colonization. The blame is increasing, the demands are increasing. I don't believe the Brits will continue to cave in much longer.

'President of the Scottish Afghan Society, Mohammad Asif...'

There's a Scottish Afghan Society?

As if.

Then again on my above post, like I said I have my doubts:

A Caledonian caliphate?

It doesn't look good. It looks like Scotland is ending up the same way as England and the rest of Europe and because of European Human Rights Laws, there's nothing that can be done to counteract the growth of Islam.

It is Ironic that an Intolerant Faith that doesn't live by the Human Rights Laws uses them as their defence in order to destroy our tolerance and impose their way of life on us.

I just wonder when people are going to wake up and see through this whole charade.

How soon they forget, members of the "religion of peace" attempted to blow up Glasgow airport on June 30, 2007.

All the extra security measures that all of us have had to suffer since 9/11 are the fault of muslims and no-one else but muslims. Now they have the balls to whine and complain about it? I am SO SICK of this BS!

Questioned?.....questioned?? These dregs have ruined the worlds finest commercial aviation system. The system had to be changed to reestablish some small amount of security from these animals and it has made flying and normal fliers extremely uncomfortable and costly.
They should not be scrutinized at airports...they should not be on aircraft or in airports..or even in the vicinity of an airport in this country.

ImNoDhimmi wrote:

All the extra security measures that all of us have had to suffer since 9/11 are the fault of muslims and no-one else but muslims.

1. The 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot led to no liquids or personal belongings on planes

2. The Bombing attempt on American Airlines 63 December 22, 2001 led to shoes being checked for explosives.

The above are only two I found quickly but I could look for more.

Islam will completely control and destroy everything that the West has achieved over the last millennium. We will be plunged back into the 7th Century again and freedom will only be word, that is unless it hasn't been destroyed along with everything else.

All about loyalty and priorities my friends.

"We cannot bear the psychological torture anymore. The authorities treat us like terrorists, as well as putting pressure on Afghans to become informers and spies, but we are not going to be intimidated and pressurised."

Yes indeed!

You are being asked to act as informers and spies. No doubt about it.

And you are refusing to cooperate -- pure and simple.

You have just declared your loyalty to the other side -- your loyalty is to the jihaddis.

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One could legitimately ask what is it about the situation that makes it "psychological torture".

Could it be that being asked to help protect the lives of lowly kaffirs is painful?

If not that, then what?

Is it that being put to question by lowly kaffirs in positions of authority is shameful and painful?

That not having your self image stroked and deferred to by your inferiors angers you and you can't do anything about it but complain? Is that the rub?

What is it exactly that's so awful about the situation?

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I am amused by his insistence that he won't be "pressurised".

He doesn't need any further pressurization. He's wrapped a little too tightly already.

Ready to pop, by the look of it.

"President of the Scottish Afghan Society, Mohammad Asif, said Strathclyde Police had a duty to treat Muslim passengers like "human beings"."

Which also requires muslims to behave like human beings which does not include demanding the introduction of 7th century law to a democracy.

"This treatment is unacceptable in a democracy and we are fed up with the discriminatory policies of Strathclyde Police Special Branch."

Afghans lecturing on democracy?

PraiaFlamego

"state funded separate Muslim only schools continue to be DEMANDED of the government,"

If you watch the MSM carefully you can pick up the vibes on how the government is going to handle this. There have been several low-key reports in the MSM building up over years to prepare the ground. They talk about the "exclusivity" of "faith schools" which is newspeak for established church schools. The line is to say they are generally good and how unfair it is that children from poorer homes who are not religious are excluded. They have been/are being told to accept up to 20% of pupils who do not belong to any church. Thus when the muslims eventually get their own schools they have an excuse to stop them being 100% muslim.

For those outside the UK, protestant, catholic and jewish school have existed for as long as we have had schools with no problems before. There are in fact church primary schools in inner city areas which demography has turned 95% muslim. There was even an instance 20 years ago when a local muslim race relations group wanted to prosecute a church for not allowing muslim prayers in/on the church premises.

After thought, with all due respect to the Jews I wonder they will force Jewish schools to take 20% muslims? There are areas where this demographically possible.

Fred, As you may know there is a coordinated PR effort to bring about the government funded schools. I haven't seen how the MSM is reporting this but I do believe they are not reporting from government sources but are simply passing on the press releases of the Muslim groups as news. So I wouldn't gauge the governments decisions based on the MSM. There is a coordinated PR effort to bring about the government funded schools. I'm not certain at all this will happen.

Maybe we should treat them like they do everyone else in there country.

I have the perfect solution to this psychologiocal warfare made to look like victimology by the very people whose actions caused this pro-active government action: "We cannot bear the psychological torture anymore. The authorities treat us like terrorists, as well as putting pressure on Afghans to become informers and spies, but we are not going to be intimidated and pressurised."

Perfect solution: (1) Move back home; (2) Cooperate fully with the authorities and provide information to help protect your current home or (3) wach your back because those you are obviously running interference for will kill you too, and think nothing of it.

If they can easily kill women and behead children, wh makes you think you are one of the crew?

I don't know too much about the Middle East (I am learning!) But I know that if you want to get a visa for Sudan you can't have been to Israel. So firm! So decisive! Nobody can argue, or would even bother to think of being outraged.
Why can't we take a leaf, just a leaf, out of their book? Any Mulim coming from countries with known terrorist groups...it makes sense.
As for the "democracy" argument, if they are so fond of democracy and want it properly run, they could try fighting for it in their own countries. Why do so mant YOUNG MUSLIM MEN want to come to the West? If they are "nationalists", but cowards, why are we so fearful of them?
Maybe Scotland has one answer. Drive them away with bureaucracy, infuriate them into staying away. Why not put pictures of Jesus in the interrogation rooms?

An article from two years ago:

Fitzgerald: Air Islam

The Muslim states of OPEC have taken in about ten trillion dollars in the past one-third of a century. They have spent much of that money on wage-slaves, from Americans and Europeans at the top (doctors, oilfield engineers, and so on), then Koreans (construction of every kind) all the way down to those Filipino nurses, those chauffeurs from the subcontinent, those Thai and Indonesian house slaves (and slaves, some of them, in other obvious ways as well). But with what has been left over from their pleasure palaces, their guarantees of free everything to their own citizens and of nothing to anyone else, they have had hundreds of billions left over for the duty of Jihad.

They have bought hundreds of billions of dollars worth of arms, the most up-to-date arms they can get. Some of those arms were put to use, as we all know, in the Iran-Iraq War (the best thing, for Infidels, to have happened, to promote division and confusion and alarm in the Muslim world since the defeat of 1967 -- but that earlier conflict took place before the OPEC bonanza appeared).

Surely the Saudis, who have paid for mosques all over the West, including mosques a mile from the Vatican, and in Paris, and London, and major cities in Italy and Holland and Germany, and all over North America, and who not only pay the tens of millions of dollars these mosques cost, but pay also for their upkeep, and pay furthermore large sums for madrasas, and for propaganda, and armies of Western hirelings, and magazines spouting their propaganda, and buy large, and obviously controlling, at times, interests in major media companies, have plenty left over. After all, they take in a billion or so every day or two -- and all without doing a thing, without lifting a finger. And so do does Kuwait, and the U.A.E. And so do another five or six or seven Muslim states.

Given that these Muslim countries are moving heaven and earth to promote the cause of Islam and to make things as easy for Muslims in the West, making sure they can conduct their Muslim lives and establish themselves permanently deep behind what Muslims themselves are taught to consider enemy lines, the Dar al-Harb, should it be beyond the wit and pocketbook of these fabulously rich Arabs to pay for a worldwide Air Islam? If they won’t pay for a regular airline, they could at least spring for a collection of charters that will be for Muslims only, and on which only halal food will be served, and there will be no need to have any undue contact with Infidels -- that toilet-seat, those faucets the "unclean" hands of "najis" Infidels have touched (if you are a Shi'a Muslim, anyway). Muslims will have no need to sit by someone who might just open his lunchback and pull out a ham-and-cheese sandwich, or a bucket of ribs barbecued North Carolina style. No need for a Muslim woman to sit next to, or perhaps between, two dangerous men -- how would she gracefully go in and out without inadvertently having some part of her body perhaps touch some part of theirs, setting them all aflame? And still worse, still more unappealing, still more intolerable – so much so that it makes you, a good Muslim, want to scream in anguish, is the possibility that such men would be Infidels.

And now this: Dr. Ahmed Farooq, a very devout Muslim, is removed from a plane after chanting his prayers, and we are told that the Infidels should not have removed him. Can't have it. Just as, in Denmark, we can't have the exercise of the right of free speech. Or in France, we can't have the French state, or its Ministry of Education, enforce the laic rules of that state, and we can't have that Ministry of Education assign offensive topics to students -- the French kings, the French Revolution, World War II and the Holocaust, not to mention such writers as Voltaire with his blasphemous play "Mahomet" and Montaigne with is "Que scais-je?" skepticism, and so many others.

So why should we accept the Infidel nation-states and their ideas of what constitutes safety, or freedom from anxiety for Infidels? Why should Infidels be free from anxiety, if that anxiety gets in the way of the ability of Muslims to do what they want, when they want, where they want?

But wait. Remember, this is the United States. Muslim numbers are not yet great enough -- that, and that alone, explains the so-called difference between the position of Muslims in the United States and those in Europe, which both The New Duranty Times and The Boston Globe and so many other papers and radio and television programs have been devoted to. "It Can't Happen Here" is the theme, but of course it can and will happen: there is not a separate Qur'an and Hadith and Sira for Muslims in America, different from that available to them in Europe or in Iran, or Egypt, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan. So for the moment we will have to not press this point.

What to do?

Here's a solution. The rich Arabs should simply have a fleet of planes, modest at first, and supplemented by planes that can be chartered -- small or large. This will be that Air Islam. Then suppose Dr. Ahmed Farooq, a very devout Muslim, with all that that implies (for all that that implies, please see Sura 9.29 and Sura 9.5 to begin with, then go from there), needs to get from Canada to California and back. He calls Air Islam, the totally-subsidized service of a consortium, funded by the governments of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, U.AE., Libya, Algeria, Iran, Iraq, Oman, and by rich Pakistani zamindars and rich Muslims in Brazil, or in that dangerous "triangle" between Brazil, Argentina, and Paraguay, about which we do not hear nearly enough. Dr. Ahmed Farooq calls up Air Islam (operators are standing by) and tells them when he wishes to go and when he wishes to return. And if there is only Dr. Farooq himself, then a small plane is dispatched to take him -- but a plane nonetheless. If he doesn't like that small plane, then he is still free to travel, perhaps (we'll see about that) on an Infidel airline, with the safety and freedom-from-anxiety that it attempts to offer its overwhelmingly Infidel clientele, or perhaps by train or bus. It's his choice.

After all, if I take a Muslim-owned airline in the Muslim world, and passengers prostrate themselves or pray in Arabic, I expect it. I have assumed whatever risk or anxiety I, as an Infidel, might feel (actually, of course, on Royal Saudi Air one or Air Maroc or Pakistan Airlines, if such prayers are uttered and bodies prostrated, one would not be alarmed as one would be, for very good reason, if this were to take place on an Infidel airline, over Infidel airspace).

That should satisfy everyone.

Or have I missed something?

[Posted by Hugh at August 24, 2006]

This wouldn't be an issue if the "Religion of Peace"-ites didn't have the odd habit of killing nonbelievers.

God help us here in the Obamanation...

President of the Scottish Afghan Society, Mohammad Asif, said Strathclyde Police had a duty to treat Muslim passengers like "human beings

inother words since islam does not think you are human unless you acept allha as your god
so it looks like this bunch of afgans realy want us to kiss there donkeys like good little dhimmi's
Scottish Afghan Society

Get video of the Muslims protesting. Stage a counter protest in support of the police and get video of the Muslims being antagonistic towards the counter protest. Muslims get enraged so quickly it is not difficult for them to show their real colours.

The idea of treating people like human beings is a plea to be treated equally, because, as Lincoln said, "In the eyes of God, all men are created equal". This is a Judeo-Christian belief based on the the fact that God created man in his own image (Genesis 1:27), on day six.
In Islam, however, there is is no such universal concept. Instead, the world is divided between believers who are good, and unbelievers, who are, as the Koran states, the "vilest of creatures". That's why the Golden Rule in Islam only applies to believers, and ultimately, that is why some Muslims feel justified in supporting terrorism.
Thus, these Muslims are invoking Judeo-Christian ideology where it will serve their interests, but would be very unlikely to grant such consideration to others in a situation where they were in control.

"We cannot bear the psychological torture anymore.

Me either.

Stop and reverse Mohammadan immigration...

t doesn't look good. It looks like Scotland is ending up the same way as England and the rest of Europe and because of European Human Rights Laws, there's nothing that can be done to counteract the growth of Islam. Posted by Richard the Lionheart

I was under the impression that the EU set the rules for all member nations but according to another poster here, Italy does not even recognize islam as a religion and does not put up with the usual islamic crap. According to this poster, Italy severely restricts the number of mosques that may be built and requires that all sermons be conducted in Italian. There are other restrictions also, designed to limit the extent to which imams can fulminate qur'anic bile and incite the muslim brain dead hordes to jihad.

Eventually the line with muslims will be crossed and public outrage will be uncontrollable; there, here, and everywhere they establish their medieval mini caliphates in the West. It is inevitable.

There are many Americans who have never seen a muslim because the country is so big and muslims are heavily concentrated only in certain areas. Muslims have invaded every state of the union but there are just a few of them in most places, so they are not noticed. In the areas where there are thousands of them, their execrable and contemptible cultural practices outrage the natives and cause many problems. But the publicity remains localized so the rest of the country never hears about them.

My ancestors were Scottish on my mother's side of the family and I have relatives in Scotland. I haven't been there since 2000 but from what they tell me, things are changing fast and not for the better. They deeply resent that Scotland has been invaded by these despicable thugs and they loathe them and their vile religion. They feel helpless to do anything about it right now but they say that public resentment and anger are growing stronger every day and will eventually culminate in a nasty confrontation. They're not sure if the confrontation will be with the government or the muslims, or both. I don't think Scotland will cave to the muslims, at least not without a fight.

And if Italy can impose restrictions on mosques, the number of muslim immigrants it will accept, and other issues related to islam and muslims, why can't Scotland and every other European country?

The protestors should have been arrested for disturbing public order, booked, fined -- and the ringleaders jailed. And if there were more protests, even larger, then repeat ad libitum. Check whose papers are in order. Find out who is receiving what benefits. If the law does not allow those who violate public order to be stripped of whatever right to benefits -- of the absurdly generous kind that are so common in Western Europe -- they may fondly think they are permanently "entitled to" then change the law. Make the Bilad al-kufr, city by city, unwelcoming to those who are working to undo every obstacle to the spread, and then the dominance, of Islam. And working to prevent the most obvious and intelligent and logical of security measures is certainly working to undo the will of Infidels to withstand pressures for making their own lands safe for Islam.

Well, on the surface, I can easily be mistaken for a muslim.

I was in NYC, visiting friends over Xmas.

Upon catching my flight home, I was asked to satnd aside, and I was searched with a bit more passion than the others. I was aksed if I would be willing to do a strip search, to which I replied "No problem". They did not proceed further and I was allowed to proceed.

I was glad they were doing their job, I regret I did not get to show off my new boxers.

The only piece of advice I have for security is "Beware, the next jihadi may actually be a recent white convert".

Ayo Gorkhali

The very fabric of time and space is straining against the finest tendrils of thready of logic as what can be said publicly in regards to Islam is separated by an ever widening rift of uncomfortable reality. When the last tendril breaks there will be a plebeian chorus resonating as reality floods in to fill the void.

"And then Mohammad Asif affects high dudgeon at Afghans being asked to become "informers and spies"! You would think that he and the people he represents would be honored at being asked to join the war effort against those they themselves would call hijackers of their religion."

We have to move beyond being surprised at this and move to being grimly on guard against all Muslims as our Enemies, and do something about this.

Or we could wait until after a couple of million of us get murdered by them. That would be the more prudent thing to do, eh?

Hugh couldn't have said it any better.

Too bad most Western European politicians, but the British more so than anyone else, are just a bunch of spineless cowards who would never have the guts to do what's right; on the contrary, it's obvious that they're more than willing to throw away freedoms that were earned through tough fights by the generations that preceded them, just for the sake of pleasing a bunch of bigoted, misogynistic, woman-beating, child-molesting, Mein-Qurampf reading, hateful throwback barbarians who don't belong in the civilized world.

While waiting for the Strathclyde authorities to do as Hugh has advised - and while lobbying all relevant authorities in Strathclyde day and night to do as Hugh has advised - Scots resisters of Jihad and Sharia in Strathclyde might consider what sort of counter-demonstrations they might employ to deal with any future Muslim pity parties of this nature.

My initial thought - as a descendant of Scots, upon my father's mother's and mother's father's side...my paternal grandmother was born in Crianlarich - is: BAGPIPES. Lots and lots of bagpipes. Assemble the pipers and have at it. March round and round and up and down.

Drown out the Mohammedan whingers and whiners. A full-bodied Scots male choir belting out folk songs and hymns could be thrown in, to boot. 'Scotland the Brave'. 'Scots Wha Hae'. Intersperse with vigorous recitations of Robbie Burns's finest efforts...for example, the scurrilous narrative poem 'The Cutty Sark'. Make sure St Andrew's Cross is prominently on display.

My second thought? - here is the advice of Davegreybeard, posted in the discussion of the 'Muslim Day Parade' in New York City:

"Angry bearded Muslims, shouting in the street, demanding things, acting like fools and generally carrying on like, well, Muslims.

"Add a growing throng of Infidels who have come to watch the spectacle and I can think of no more perfect venue to pass out educational flyers on Muhammad and Islam.

"These events should be gladly anticipated, looked forward to and treated as the OPPORTUNITIES OF PURE GOLD that they are.

"Think of what light could be spread among the Kuffar, as their brief attention spans are, for once, FIRMLY RIVETED ON ISLAM, by the spectacle in the street.

"Jihad works both ways.

"Email me if you need leaflets.
- Posted by: Davegreybeard at October 14, 2008 11:51 PM".

PraiaFlamego

OT

On the matter of muslim schools and policy this government is exceptionally good at manipulating the media. Their method with any difficult problem is first to get issues are raised by journalists who have no government connection to gauge reaction. They then tread a careful path, maybe over years, adjusting the campaign as necessary until the final stage - a "leaked report" on Radio 4 and if it does not provoke outrage that is it.

As it happens I have watched this develop over 5 years because our local Church High School is one of the best in the country and the BBC has twice targeted it for excluding all but practicing members of the Church of England. Most recently they featured a muslim family who really, really, really wanted to send their son there but because he was a muslim could not.

Now there are "discussions" going on with representatives of “faith schools” at a national level and a 20% quota is mentioned – with the obvious implication for their funding if they do not comply.

Proud_Kaffir7908

Search the web for "libertarian alliance - BNP" you might learn the extent of government power and repression in Britain today, then you will understand.

+100000000 to hugh!

Not all Muslims are terrorists, just the ones who adhere to the 4th Pillar of Islam, zakat, which does not mean 'charity.' Muslims as a matter of principle don't believe in charity, there has never been a single legitimate Islamic charity, that money can't pass through non-Muslim hands, and if they don't want to donate it to charity they could give it to the local mosque. Oh wait, 99.9% of the mosques in North America and Europe are owned by the terror organization the Muslim Brotherhood. Shoot, all Muslims are terrorists. I hope CAIR doesn't sue me for defamation for saying that not all Muslims are terrorists.

"President of the Scottish Afghan Society, Mohammad Asif, said Strathclyde Police had a duty to treat Muslim passengers like 'human beings.'"

Ooh, sorry, human beings pay taxes. That's why children have no civil rights. And human beings, as well as monkeys, without exception raise their children to be well-adjusted, self-sufficient adults. Ever met a well-adjusted, self-sufficient, 30-year-old Muslim (I'm being incredibly generous because if you're not there by 20 that ship has long since sailed)? Me neither. If you live like a tapeworm and you act like a badger then check it out: you're not a human being. You don't even aspire to monkey-hood. You have no human rights.

Do foreigners even have civil rights in Scotland? They don't in America. Civil rights are for citizens, which is still way too pervasive because they should only be for TAXPAYING citizens anyway.

And seriously, why do we let people come here from those inbred, baby-raping, Nazi terrorist countries anyway? I can accept that religious minorities from those hellhole countries have contributed lots to society, and they should be allowed in (but not given student visas if they were educated in public schools in those nations, since they still lack the equivalent of a Guatemalan 1st-grade education) because we're in many cases lucky to have them, but what benefit is there to us to allow in Muslims there? How many generations of immigrants have to come to the Free World and contribute nothing but a huge bill to the taxpayers, a bunch of inbred, monstrous children who refuse legitimate educations, and a bunch of blown up buildings and cars before we realize how much worse-off we are for having them? Not only should nobody be allowed to leave the Free World to visit one of those countries and then come back, but they should simply never be allowed in the first place.

And if Italy can impose restrictions on mosques, the number of muslim immigrants it will accept, and other issues related to islam and muslims, why can't Scotland and every other European country?

Because Scotland and every other European country are as stupid as we are in recognizing Islam as a religion instead of a genocidal, supremacist, totalitarian, fascist, parasitic political ideology/death-cult for inbred, baby-raping, Nazi terrorists who force all their women to live their entire lives as mutilated, undead-corpse sex slaves. The EU will break up beacuse of Islam. Mark my word. If not Italy then Scotland or Denmark will say "Enough!" and bail out in order to protect themselves and save billions. By the way, it takes 4 Muslims to cost the taxpayers a billion dollars in security, insurance, police and intelligence work, criminal justics, welafre, and all the extra healthcare they need becaus they keep screwing their family members and being born with 20x the rate of genetic defects and disorders. Yeah, 4.

Ya lie down with dogs...you get up with fleas.

You never see Muslims really protesting the violent Muslims whose actions are the cause of the now mandatory airport security measures...

Look for Muslims to protest more frequently and more violently against required security measures aimed at stopping terrorist attacks...Of course anyone can be a terrorist, but Muslims hold the upper hand at this profession...

And Islam seems to be the only "religion" that encourages attacks on other religions..

Islam seems to be the only "religion" that actively finances and provides logistical and intellegence support to its operatives.

Is Islam a true religion or just an invading army posing as a religion?..

Susanp,

The line has already been crossed. When the Muslim Asylum seekers were moved into a poor Glasgow sink estate(one of just many) a few years back, they were immediately given far more than their Scottish Residents. They would look in awe as the Local Council delivered new beds, TV's, Washing/Dishwasher machines etc into the homes of the recently arrived refugees. People in that estate were lucky if they got a broken window fixed or a leaking pipe. You can imagine the animosity, but nothing really happened. They did eventually move them out and upon coming in to clean up they were amazed at what they saw. Most, if not all of the goods they had given them when they moved in had been sold along with the carpets and the wallpaper. When they went into the kitchen, the new surfaces that were installed had been used for chopping up meat on and were ruined, not forgetting blood stained. The flats were a mess and they had lived like animals inside.
When I was growing up in Scotland, there were a handful of Muslims in my City, they were friendly and polite and never caused any problems but they are growing.

Italy is doing what it is because first off, it's a catholic country and the people are, of course, very proud of their ancestry. After all look what the Romans did for the world? They practically ruled the World long before Islam ever existed. The Romans did more for the world than Islam ever has. Secondly, they have Berlusconi in power, previously the Italian Prime Minister who after being voted out and the people seeing the mess the country was going in voted him back in. He's a no mess politician. Sure he's corrupt, name me one that isn't, but he loves his country and is a proud Italian and doesn't want to see his country turn into an Islamic/Immigrant infested hell hole. The re-election of Berlusconi shows the nationalism of the Italian people and how proud they are of their culture. One only has to go to Italy, anywhere in fact, and see the beauty that it's wrapped in. Rich in culture, beautiful buildings, wonderful works of Art, Home of the Renaissance, wonderful food, need I go on?
Italy is also resisting Islam because it doesn't have its tongue up Saudi Arabia's backside like most countries in the West. Islam is growing because Saudi Arabia demands it. This is the biggest reason why we have to find another energy source asap. We should immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan and the West should invest trillions into new energy so that we can be free of Oil in under 20 years.

The sad reality is that in another post I stated that what can we do to stop Islamisation when NuLabour, Liberal Democrats and Conservative are pro Islam, the Police and Armed Forces are pro Islam and the Media and Education Systems in the UK are Pro Islam?
In order to fully stop Islamisation the UK has no choice but to immediately break away from Europe, take back control of its borders and governance and start seriously clamping down on Islam. I'm talking about knocking down 90% of all Mosques, no Halal meat shops, no wearing of Islamic dress etc etc.

If we don't do something now then Islam by default will simply Islamise by population growth. We have let the enemy into our gates and that is our own stupidity.
I hate to sound negative but without serious draconian measures against Islam, Islam will take complete control of the West and yes, that means America too. Many on here will say never, but when the Government has control of the Army and the Police and uprising are immediately halted then even your bravest warrior will be rooted out by the secret services and imprisoned. It takes time to indoctrinate the public with Islamic Ideology but it will happen.

Mark

Re your first paragraph thank you for filling in the detail.

I remember the affair and the words of a resident at the time, "Look at them getting all that and a man there has been waiting 6 weeks to get his windas (windows) in". That was a rare moment of truth because most MSM quoted an un-named policeman as saying the cause of the resentment of the "long term residents" was that the asylum seekers were "Very popular with the local lassies".

BTW the same thing happens in England and to conceal what is going on asylum seekers are handled by separate and specially recruited staff who are housed in out of the way offices. As the Sunday Times noted recently an Albanian "asylum seeker" can get a flat a Londoner would have to wait years for.

I respect Hugh's truly learned and profound words. I really do. He makes perfect sense with reasoned and logically referenced koranic (piss be upon that rag) citations.

But all this talk talk talk means nothing against the relentless onslaught of jihad and islam - I spit when I say or type that word. Blech !!!

I think you people know what I want. The last time I spoke I spewed such violent and genocidal ambitions that I'm surprised I'm not banned.

But let's face it - war is coming. Ordinary people like us are going to have to slaughter these crazy 7th century barbarians who are everywhere just to protect our civilization in our own cities. But this slaughter can't stop there - we have to go there and conquer them - again and again - until they stop forever. This is the only way it will end.

You nice people make great arguments and cite 12000 plus reasons why, since Sept 11, 2001 we have a problem but no one is slaughtering these animals as they should be.

Face facts, the enemy is a hord of cowards. If we want to stop the insanity, we slaughter them until they, in their inbred, indoctrinated, maniacal minds get the message. Burn the mosques/weapons depots - hang the believers of this vile and disgusting cult in the town square and at the outskirts of every city on the planet. The dead should be our badge of honor.

The only thing they understand is resistance. Our might is our right to be victorious. And another thing. If they had our weapons we would ALL be dead by now.

So talk talk talk all you people with opinions and analyses. I prefer to respond to this 1400 year old threat with weapons and war. See you all when it's over.

Here's an idea lads: When you stop letting your soccer fans travel abroad, then you can complain about who's coming into your country.

Susanp:

I don't think Scotland will cave to the muslims, at least not without a fight.

You're forgetting the Red-Islamic Alliance. Socialism is big in Scotland. I'd be interested to hear what Abdul Al-Salmond of Al-SNP has to say about followers of his preferred "religion" being singled out for questioning at Glasgow airport. "Jings!", I expect.

A bit OT - this is what happens if you try to protest peacefully against Islamification. RIP free speech.

stumbler:

Here's an idea lads: When you stop letting your soccer fans travel abroad, then you can complain about who's coming into your country.

The government already stops those who have caused trouble in the past from leaving the UK for a period of time prior to high profile matches involving English teams playing away in Europe/Turkey. Yet another example of the insidious tentacles of the police state.

I don't recall any reports of English football fans trying to blow up innocent people.

There will be politicians who will seize on this as proof of "racism" and will do all in their power to make sure Muslims don't feel uncomfortable.

Ooops!
I thot i could stay in Scotland away from those ******** but it seems (from ur posts) those assholes are there,up and runnig(and started their 'mass' breeding programme!)
Damn!

I dont think i could stay 4 ever in India as the condition is worsening day by day,churches being burn down,nuns being raped,priests mutilated........
And police who should b stoppin this,doin nothin!

Oops!
I thot Scotland was 'clean' but from ur posts it seems that its not!
So those barbarians are up and runnin,started their 'mass' breeding programme
Hw sad!

I thot i could stay in Scotland away from home(i'm an india 'Hardcore' right wing Catholic btw!) as the condition here is worsenin day by day!
Churches being burned down,nuns being raped,priests mutilated...........

A good example to explain the concept of conditional probability. If you pick out a passager at random, how big is the probability that he is a terrorist? Now, how big is the probability that he is a terrorist, given the information that he is a Muslim? And how big is it, if you know that he is a Muslim and either from Afghanistan or Pakistan?
I think "to discriminate" also has the meaning of "to make a difference" in English, doesn't it? Some differences are simply more relevant than others.
If they can't stand it, then there is a simple solution - leave now, go back to Afghanistan or Pakistan, and see what torture and oppression really are.

Leading on from my comment above, if the UK government has the power to prevent British passport holders from travelling abroad - purely on the pretext that they might cause trouble at a football match, then why doesn't the government prevent suspected jihadist sympathisers from travelling to Pakistan?

Double standards? You bet. But we can't restrict the free movement of "British" Muslims - even if they're off to a military training camp to learn how to blow us up.

Watling,

I'm not so sure of Socialism being big in Scotland. I think if anything there's more of a National Socialism that a Liberal/left wing socialism that is destroying the UK - via NuLabour.

Remember that NuLabour recently lost the Glasgow election that was always a safe seat for them.
Remember also that the Black Watch and other Scottish regiments have been fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Remember also that unlike the pathetic state education system in England, Scotland's is far better. Children in Scottish schools actually have respect for their teachers and don't disrupt classes/attack teachers as we have in London and England. More importantly though, they are not being indoctrinated with Left Wing idealism, with its roots lying firmly in Marxism.
Remember also that unlike England, the Scots are proud of who they are. I hate to say it but the English have been battered into hating their country and really it has a lot to do with them remaining silent while they allowed it to happen. I mean, who on earth would stop their countrymen from waving their own Flag because they say it's a racist symbol and might upset Non Brits? You couldn't make that up!

As I have already stated there certainly is Socialism in Scotland, but when the majority of Scots start turning their backs on Labour as they have and side with the SNP/Liberal Dems then it means that they strongly disagree with Whitehall Policies and immigration and Islam are no doubt high on their 'reason not to vote for Labour' list. As you will no doubt remember, it was the National Socialists in Germany that eventually became the Nazi Party, but Scotland wouldn't go that far. They will however get angrier and angrier as Islam takes more and their government appeases it.

It all really depends on how Alex Salmond addresses Islamisation in Scotland as it is happening. The Scots are big on drink and like their pig. I would like to see what happens when they start removing pork from school dinners or workplaces and/or bringing in Halal meats so as not to offend the Muslims. However I do agree with what you say about Alex Salmond. He's got his own interests at heart and no doubt a seat/presidency in the European Parliament. He's a politician for goodness sake. Long gone are the days of Keir Hardie and Ramsay MacDonald, the founders of the Labour Party in the UK, working class men who spoke up for their fellow workers and neighbours.

"Keir Hardie"

There was much to be deplored about Keir Hardie.

Hugh wrote:

"Keir Hardie"

There was much to be deplored about Keir Hardie.

I'm not saying that he was perfect but he stopped the Labour Party from becoming a Communist party, with Marxist teachings and started a party for the people by the people. He was far different from any Labour leader we've seen in a long time, there's no denying that. I'm not a Labour supporter and never have been but I do admire certain individuals who have risen under Labour. Keir Hardie spoke for the people, something a Labour leader/politician hasn't done for a long time.

Anyway, we're going off topic.

How they like to whine, especially this one when he hasn't snout in the trough

Shahid Malik, said on Monday that he was deeply disappointed that he was held with two other Muslim passengers while his bags were analysed at Dulles airport, Washington.

US security officials say, however, that they have reviewed a videotape of his detention, which shows that he was detained for eight minutes. The officials also rubbished his assertion that he was chosen because of his religion.

The row escalated further after Mr Malik’s office told The Times that US officials had failed to register up to half an hour while he was forced to wait to be screened.

Mr Malik also said that he had received a verbal apology from the US Ambassador in London. Embassy officials, in turn, have told this newspaper that they were disappointed that he had made a public statement about a private conversation.

The row began on Monday after Mr Malik claimed on his website that he had just been searched and detained by the Department of Homeland Security, the same department whose representatives he had been meeting on his visit to the country.

“After a few minutes a couple of other people were also taken to one side. We were all Muslims,” he wrote
.
He claimed that he was held for about 40 minutes and called for a new attitude to be employed by the US authorities, particularly towards visiting dignitaries such as himself.

Philip Baum, the editor of Aviation Security International, said: “He has done a disservice to his country. It is a disgrace at a time when security is of the utmost importance and airport staff are under immense pressure. There is absolutely no room for any exaggeration from a British government minister and he needs to be called to account,” he said.

Mr Malik, 39, the MP for Dewsbury, who was revealed last week to be Britain’s most expensive MP with £185,000 of expenses, has had claims of victimisation challenged before.

In June 2001, he complained that he was attacked with a baton by a police officer during riots in Burnley that left him with a cut above his eye.
His complaint was rejected by the Police Complaints Authority, which concluded that he appeared to have been struck with a shield and that it was not clear whether he was hit or whether an officer was pulling the shield from Mr Malik’s hands. Mr Malik described the report as a whitewash

What is so damned scary is the silence througt out the blogsphere, is that these Shahid (we should know what that means)Malik has been appointed as Broonnose,s new Minister of Justice

Bad immigration policies set in motion by those who have not studied the potential immigrants customs and ideologies is just plain bad immigration policy..

Can Bad Immigration policies be reversed? Or does anyone really care?..

When I suggested bringing on the bagpipers to challenge the Muslim whiners, here's the sort of people I had in mind:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/368069/scotland_the_brave/

Very impressive!

Now, for inspiration for all Scots and Scots-descended non-Muslims among us: click on any of the following to read the words of some of Scotland's splendid songs.

http://cityofoaks.home.netcom.com/tunes/ScotlandTheBrave.html

http://www.rampantscotland.com/songs/blsongs_campbell.htm

http://www.rampantscotland.com/songs/blsongs_battle.htm

http://www.rampantscotland.com/songs/blsongs_haughty.htm

http://www.rampantscotland.com/songs/blsongs_land.htm

http://www.rampantscotland.com/songs/blsongs_macgregor.htm

http://www.rampantscotland.com/songs/blsongs_cameron.htm

And the Pibroch of Dunuld Dhu:

http://www.online-literature.com/walter_scott/2567/

From the opening of the poem:

Piobaireachd Dhonuil Dhuidh, piobaireachd Dhonuil;
Piobaireachd Dhonuil Dhuidh, piobaireachd Dhonuil;
Piobaireachd Dhonuil Dhuidh, piobaireachd Dhonuil;
Piob agus bratach air faiche Inverlochi.

The pipe-summons of Donald the Black,
The pipe-summons of Donald the Black,
The war-pipe and the pennon are on the gathering-place
at Inverlochy.

And this - Scottish dancing and music -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09f7-_leb90&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZJ86f6C7c&feature=related

is one of 1001 good reasons WHY the Scots have to fight; why they have to resist the Stealth Jihad and, whenever and wherever it comes, the violent jihad as well (they didn't do too badly, at Glasgow Airport - Scotsmen rose to the occasion, then, to help the police catch and subdue the jihadists):