More disturbing -- but telling -- details regarding this story. "20,000 Muslims Attack a Church in Cairo," from AINA, November 26:
One thousand Christians were today trapped inside the Coptic Orthodox Church of the Virgin Mary in West Ain Shams,Cairo, after more than twenty thousand Muslims attacked them with stones and butane gas cylinders. The Church's priest Father Antonious said that the situation is extremely dangerous.The Muslim mob that attacked the church blocked both sides of the street and encircled the church building, broke its doors and demolished its entire first floor. The mob were chanting Jihad verses as well as slogans saying "we will demolish the church" and "We sacrifice our blood and souls, we sacrifice ourselves for you, Islam", while the entrapped Christians chanted "Lord have mercy".
The incident started on the occasion of the inauguration of the Church today, when the Muslims hastily established a Mosque in the early hours of this morning, by taking over the first floor of a newly-built building facing the Church and started praying there.
When the security forces tried to disperse the mob, they went to nearby homes and shops owned by Christians, and were armed with sticks, butane, knives and other sharp objects. Witnesses said the mob included children from as young as 8-years old to men of over 50-years old, in addition to women.
The Church building was originally a factory that was adapted into its present state, the matter which took over five years to complete and to get the necessary permissions from the authorities to have a Church established.
Human rights organizations and lawyers were refused entry into the besieged Church.
Meanwhile, the Egyptian, and soon to follow, no doubt, Western press, portray this as "sectarian strife" where both sides, Muslims and Christians, are equally guilty of "intolerance."
Somebody tell me why *any* Western government gives even *one* cent in 'aid' - of any kind - to Egypt?
When are we going to hear the non-Muslim nations at the UN bringing resolutions condemning the gross, flagrant, appalling human rights abuses, inflicted by Muslims upon non-Muslims, in Muslim countries such as Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, to name just a few?
but instead they all vote a grovelling 'yes' to the sickeningly hypocritical resolutions that the Islamintern rams through, against Israel.
Would be possible for all non Muslims to rally and protest against Islamic Jihad. What if we all organized a mass world wide protest against Islamic Jihad and say no to Mass Murder by Islam. Just like how Muslims protest world wide against infidels, what if all non Muslims hold a mass protest against this continued war of aggression by Islam. Where are all the peace protesters, where are all the human rights protesters?
The 25 Nov article about this church, http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023655.php quotes almasry alyoum
Today's report contradicts both these assertions - "the Muslims hastily established a Mosque in the early hours of this morning" after the church spent "five years to complete and to get the necessary permissions from the authorities to have a Church established"
Deception to motivate the rioters?
First Mumbai, now Cairo. Might be some co-ordination involved. There might well be more to come. Every major city in the West should have its security forces on full alert.
What's all the fuss about? The Christians of Cairo obviously have nothing whatever to worry about. After all, its just a tiny minority of extremists!
Was it American foreign policy? Was it Kashmir? Was it something Israel said or did? What, exactly, was it?
No, don't answer.
By now we know. We don't need your answer.
"what if all non Muslims hold a mass protest against this continued war of aggression by Islam."
From savsiv, above.
Ah, would that this were even possible. Even assuming you could get a few non-Muslims together in this way, all you'd get for your troubles is a label of being Islamophobic hate mongers. And meanwhile Muslim aggression continues unabated.
I think bunker busters and hellfire missiles from drones will be more effective.
Does anyone doubt that these Christians have been forbidden the possession of firearms, in the interest of "public safety?"
I'm sure the Egyptian authorities have seen what a few, armed Korean shopkeepers were able to do to an angry Los Angeles mob. Can't have these savages getting shot, now, can we? Goodness, no.
RSI
If one wants to know the reason why twenty thousand hysterically murder-minded Egyptian Muslims would surround a church that contains one thousand defenceless Coptic Christians, one might consult, for example, Andrew Bostom's article, 'Textbook Jihad in Egypt'
http://frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=C4BA519B-3644-4738-99B9-6B2BD900C894
After citing some appalling contemporary examples, Bostom gives the historic background:
'Teaching Egyptian school children anti-infidel jihad hatred is clearly a long, ongoing , and ignoble tradition even within the modern era.
'As the scholar E. W. Lane reported after several years of residence in both Cairo and Luxor (initially in 1825-1828, then in 1833-1835),
- "I am credibly informed that children in Egypt are often taught at school, a regular set of curses to denounce upon the persons and property of Christians, Jews, and all other unbelievers in the religion of Mohammad [”An Account of the Manners and Customs of the Modern Egyptians, New York, 1973 edn., p. 276]
'Lane translated the prayer below from a contemporary 19th century text Arabic text, containing a typical curse on non-Muslims, recited daily by Muslim schoolchildren:
- “I seek refuge with God {allah} from Satan the accursed. In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful. O God, aid El-Islam, and exalt the word of truth, and the faith, by the preservation of thy servant and the son of thy servant, the Sultan of the two continents (Europe and Asia), and the Khakan (Emperor or monarch) of the two seas [the Mediterranean and Black Seas], the Sultan, son of the Sultan (Mahmood) Khan (the reigning Sultan when this prayer was composed).
- "O God, assist him, and assist his armies, and all the forces of the Muslims: O Lord of the beings of the whole world.
-"O God, destroy the infidels and polytheists, thine enemies, the enemies of the religion.
-"O God, make their children orphans, and defile their abodes, and cause their feet to slip,
-"and give them and their families, and their households and their women and their children and their relations by marriage and their brothers and their friends and their possessions and their race and their wealth and their lands as booty to the Muslims: O Lord of the beings of the whole world.” [ Modern Egyptians, p. 575]
'The seminal modern scholar of Islamic civilization, S.D. Goitein, warned more than a century later, in 1949, speaking of the Arab world generally, in particular Egypt:
“Islamic fanaticism…is now openly encouraged…writers whose altogether Western style (was mentioned earlier) have been vying with each other for some time in compiling books on the heroes and virtues of Islam…
"What has now become possible in educated circles may be gathered from the following quotation from an issue of the ‘New East’, an Arab monthly periodical describing itself as the ‘organ of the academic youth of the East’:
QUOTE ‘Let us fight fanatically for our religion; let us love a man-because he is a Moslem; let us honor a man- because he is a Moslem; let us prefer him to anyone else-because he is a Moslem; and never let us make friends with unbelievers, because they have nothing but evil for us.’ {cited in Goitein, S.D. 'Commentary', January 1949, “Cross-Currents in Arab National Feeling”, p. 161.}
'And a decade later, in 1958, Lebanese Law Professor Antoine Fattal, perhaps the greatest scholar of the legal condition of non-Muslims living under the Shari'a, lamented,
- "No social relationship, no fellowship is possible between Muslims and dhimmis...
-"Even today, the study of the jihad is part of the curriculum of all the Islamic institutes.
"In the universities of Al-Azhar, Nagaf, and Zaitoune, students are still taught that the holy war is a binding prescriptive decree, pronounced against the Infidels, which will only be revoked with the end of the world..." (Le Statut Legal de Musulmans en Pays' d'Islam, Beirut, 1958; pp. 369, 372)
'Sadly, almost fifty years after Fattal made his observations,
' the sacralized hatred of jihad is still being inculcated as part of the formal education of Muslim youth in Egypt, the most populous Arab country,
'and throughout the Arab Muslim, and larger non-Arab Muslim world.
'We in the West must press our political and religious leaders to demand that such bellicose, hate-mongering "educational" practices be abolished in Islamic nations, under threat of severe, broad ranging economic sanctions."
Slight correction to the above: the Antoine Fattal book cited by Bostom is in fact entitled "Le Statut Legal des Non-Musulmans en Pays d'Islam'; it may be roughly translated as 'The legal status of non-Muslims in Muslim countries'.
20,000 screaming Muslim fanatics from a single locality..."tiny minority of extremists" my ass!
20,000 to 1,000. Yeah, it sounds like they are equally guilty of "intolerance" to me.
Over at PJM and at Richard Fernandez' blog I got in trouble on threads about the Mumbai attack and this thing in Cairo for calling Islam the religion of piss. But these same blogs tolerate the execrable posts of a nefarious Jew-hater. I call a spade a spade. And get censored.
The incident started on the occasion of the inauguration of the Church today, when the Muslims hastily established a Mosque in the early hours of this morning, by taking over the first floor of a newly-built building facing the Church and started praying there.
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Yes, I had thought that the initial report that the Christians had set up their Church right opposite a Mosque sounded odd--and unbelievably imprudent, given Muslims' especial hatred of Infidels worshipping anywhere near a Mosque.
Well, this explains it--the Mosque was "hastily established"--in other words, the claim of the Mosque's presence was b*llsh*t. War is deceit.
Christinans need to start to bear ARMS !!!
Hugh:
How effective would cutting off the subsidies under the Camp David be?
How effective would it be for the American government to also demand that from now on, Egypt must pay everything it buys from the U.S. in cash and failure to do so, opens the latter to seizure and judicial sale of its assets both public and private?
Would it be prudent to very quietly and secretly arm the Copts and train them to defend themselves?
xavier
20,000 Muslims attack a single Christian Church.....hmmmm ....sounds like another Islamic crusade sortie...yep
Witnesses said the mob included children from as young as 8-years old to men of over 50-years old, in addition to women.
People are teaching their children to hate others. I never want to hear about "innocent Muslims" being killed, ever again.
Twenty thousand blood thirsty tiny minority of extremists. That's it extremists, just keep repeating it over and over as long as it takes: "has nothing to do with religion, all religions are equal, it's just extremism." Repeat as necessary until all semblance of rational and critical analysis is an afterthought. The MSM won't be lending a sympathetic ear toward Coptic plight either. Unless it's a story about rioters being injured while destroying.