"Such non-Muslim subjects [of the Islamic state] are obliged to comply with Islamic rules that pertain to the safety and indemnity of life, reputation, and property. In addition, they...are forbidden to openly display wine or pork, (A: to ring church bells or display crosses,) recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feastdays..." -- 'Umdat al-Salik o11.5
"Bosnia: Radical Muslims arrested for entering church," from AKI, November 24 (thanks to C. Cantoni):
Sarajevo, 24 Nov. (AKI) – Bosnian police arrested two Muslims allegedly linked to a radical 'Wahabi' sect after they sought access to a Catholic church in Sarajevo on Sunday. Inspector Dragan Miokovic confirmed on Monday two men were detained by police.Church of Trinity vicar Ivan Ravlic said the two men knocked on the door of the church late Saturday and asked to see inside the building.
"My answer was that there was no need for them to look at the church at that late hour and that was when they explained they were disturbed by the church bell," Ravlic said....
Muslims are so narcissistic. The church bell doesn't go on for ten minutes like a muezzin with those horrible goat-strangling, cat-vomiting noises, devoid of rhythm, meter, and key, as if its intention is to make everyone within earshot simultaneously vomit. But a church bell offends them. That pretty much says it all.
".....it's ringing you to hell said the wee boy and still he stood."
- from an old English folk song entitled "The False Knight On The Road". Made popular by the English Folk Rock group Steeleye Span.
Anything not Islamic in orientation enrages Moslems. It doesn't matter how small that non-Islamic something is.
Thank you Bill Clinton!
G K Chesterton, The Five Guilds: The Bell Ringers
"The angels are singing like birds in a tree
in the organ of good St Cecily;
and the parson reads with his hand upon
the graven eagle of great St John
but never the fluted pipes shall go
like the fifes of an army all a-row
merrily marching down the street
to the marts where the busy and idle meet.
and never the brazen bird shall fly
out of the window and into the sky
till men in cities and shires and ships
look up at the living Apocalypse.
"But all men hark at the dusk of even
the bells that bay like the hounds of heaven
tolling and tolling that over and under
in the ways of the air like a wandering thunder,
the hunt is up over hills untrod:
for the wind is the way of the dogs of God.
From the tyrant's tower to the outlaw's den
hunting the souls of the sons of men.
Ruler and robber and pedlar and peer
who will not hearken and yet will hear;
filling men's heads with the hurry and hum
making them welcome before they come.
"And we poor men stand under the steeple
drawing the cords that draw the people,
and in our leads like the leaping dogs
are God's most deafening demagogues
and we are but little, like dwarfs underground,
while hang up in heaven the houses of sound
moving like mountains that faith sets free
yawning like caverns that roar with the sea
as awfully loaded, as airily buoyed
armoured archangels that trample the void
wild as with dancing and weighty with dooms
heavy as their panoply, light as their plumes.
"Neither preacher nor priest are we
Each man mount to his own degree:
only remember that just such a cord
tosses in heaven the trumpet and sword;
souls on their terraces, saints on their towers
rise up in arms at alarums like ours:
glow like great watchfires that redden the skies
titans whose wings are a glory of eyes,
Crowned constellations by twelves and by sevens
domed dominations more old than the heavens
virtues that thunder, and thrones that endure
sway like a bell to the prayers of the poor."
The Muslims are not just 'disturbed' by church bells in Sarajevo: they've been trying to silence the church bells in the UK as well.
Here's a most disturbing story from Dominic, 'necessitasnonhabetlegem', of blessed memory, posted here in mid-December 2006:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/014505.php#c323436
"Giving in to the barbarian moslem horde is happening everywhere.
" I have just come back to London from a visit to my parents during which I attended Holy Communion at one of my favourite country churches.
"After communion - and over a good cup of tea, this is England after all - I was speaking with the Tower Captain of that particular church and he informed me that a planned ring of Grandsire Doubles with triple dodging above on Saturday had had to be cancelled
"because the local mosk {sic: mosque - dda} had objected and appealed to the local council to have the ring stopped.
"The Council issued a noise abatement order which effectively prohibits the ringing of any bells in the tower indefinitely.
"I hope that all of you can imagine just how angry I now feel.
"However, I must inform you that the ring will go ahead despite the local council's ruling and all the ringers are prepared to be taken into court if necessary -
"a lawyer has been retained and they are going to fight this one.
"I also learnt from this particular Tower Captain that such actions are happening all over the UK
"and are always being challenged by the ringers.
"If I can find anything on the web I will post links.
"Dominic.
- Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 21, 2006 10:17 PM
"BTW, the noise abatement order, as phrased and issued, also covers the tolling of the passing bell - it seems that we are not going to be allowed to honour our dead either!
Dominic.
- Posted by: necessitasnonhabetlegem at December 21, 2006 10:22 PM
I wonder whether the Muslims have been trying this one on in other non-Muslim countries - France? Canada? the USA? Australia? I haven't heard anything, but perhaps someone reading this has, and can share their story, as Dominic did.
The good thing about Dominic's story is that the bellringers were not allowing themselves to be silenced. We never did hear how that particular one panned out, though.
I do know that a parish priest I know, whose church has a mosque just opposite, makes a point of doing the full High Anglican bit: he and his congregation ring their bell with zest and vigour at every possible point in the service, and in the life of the church, at which bell-ringing is called for.
Parish churches across the western world, especially those with mosques in their neighbourhood, would do well to follow his example.
The Bosnian Muslims in this tale are not now doing something foreign to them, something taught them by "Salafists" or "Wahhabis." Rather, they are merely reverting to type, as Andrew Bostom has noted, can be discovered by reading Nobel Prize winner Ivo Andric's doctoral dissertation on the moral influence of Ottoman rule on the Balkans:
Ivo Andric analyzed the "rayah"(meaning "herd," and "to graze a herd")or dhimmi condition imposed upon the indigenous Christian population of Bosnia, for four centuries. Christianity's loud and most arresting symbol, church bells,Andric notes [2], always drew close, disapproving Turkish scrutiny, and, "wherever their invasions would go, down came the bells, to be destroyed or
melted into cannon." Predictably, until the second half of the nineteenth century, "nobody in Bosnia could eventhink of bells or bell towers." Only in 1860 did the Sarajevo priest Fra Grgo
Martic manage to get permission from Topal Osman—Pasa to hang a bell at the church in Kresevo. Permission was granted, thought, only on condition that "at first the bell be rung softly to let the Turks get accustomed to it little by
little." And still the Muslim of Kresevo were complaining, even in 1875, to Sarajevo that "the Turkish ear and ringing bells cannot coexist in the same place at the same time"; and Muslim women would beat on their copper pots to
drown out the noise...on 30 April 1872, the new Serbian Orthodox church also got a bell. But since the...Muslims had threatened to riot, the military had to be called in to ensure that the ceremony might proceed undisturbed. [3]
The imposition of such disabilities, Andric observes, [4] extended beyond church ceremonies, as reflected by a 1794 proclamation of the Serbian Orthodox church in Sarajevo warning Christians not to...sing during ...outings, nor in their houses, nor in other places. The saying
'Don't sing too loud, this village is Turk' testifies eloquently to the fact that this item of the Kanun [applying to the Rayah] was applied outside church life as well as within.
Andric concludes, [5] ...for their Christian subjects, their [Ottoman Turkish] hegemony brutalized custom and meant a step to the rear in every respect.
[1] Ivo Andric, The Development of Spiritual Life in Bosnia Under the Influence of Turkish Rule, (1924 doctoral dissertation), English translation, Durham, North Carolina, 1990, Chaps. 2 and 3]
[2] Andric, Bosnia Under the Influence of Turkish Rule, p. 30
[3] Andric, Bosnia Under the Influence of Turkish Rule, p.30
[4] Andric, Bosnia Under the Influence of Turkish Rule, pp. 30—31.
[5] Andric, Bosnia Under the Influence of Turkish Rule, p.38
This story from Bosnia should be a call to arms for all Christians anywhere in lands not yet ruled by Islam, lands that we should be girding ourselves up to defend in every possible way:
while yet we may sing, ring bells, conduct processions, go carolling and wassailing, beat the bounds, etc., let us do so in large numbers and at the tops of our voices, especially if we are in districts encroached upon by the murderous Mohammedans with their tin ears.
Christmas and New Year approach; and then, not so very long after that, Mardi Gras. All great opportunities for thoroughly un-Islamic public festivities accompanied by loud and joyful noise.
Here, by way of inspiration, is a rousing passage from Dorothy L Sayers' classic novel 'The Nine Tailors', set in the fen country of East Anglica, and describing the ringing in of the New Year with "fifteen thousand, eight hundred and forty Kent Treble Bob Majors".
From The Nine Tailors: ‘The Bells in their Courses’.
"…The eight men advanced to their stations, and Hezekiah consulted his watch.
"‘Time!’ he said.
"He spat upon his hands, grasped the sallie of Tailor Paul, and gently swung the great bell over the balance.
"Toll-toll-toll; and a pause; toll-toll-toll; and a pause; toll-toll-toll; the nine tailors, or teller-strokes, that mark the passing of a man. The year is dead; toll him out with twelve strokes more, one for every passing month. Then silence. Then, from the faint, sweet, tubular chimes of the clock overhead, the four quarters and the twelve strokes of midnight. The ringers grasped their ropes.
‘Go!’
"The bells gave tongue; Gaude, Sabaoth, John, Jericho, Jubilee, Dimity, Batty Thomas and Tailor Paul, rioting and exulting high up in the dark tower, wide mouths rising and falling, brazen tongues clamouring, huge wheels turning to the dance of the leaping ropes.
"Tin tan din dan bim bam bom bo – tan tin din dan bam bim bo bom – tin tan dan din bim bam bom bo – tan tin dan din bam bim bo – bom – tan dan tin bam din bo bim – bom – every bell in her place striking tuneably, hunting up, hunting down, dodging, snapping, laying her blows behind, making her thirds and fourths, working down to lead the dance again.
"Out over the flat white wastes of fen, over the spear-straight, steel-dark dykes and the wind-bent, groaning poplar trees, bursting from the snow-choked louvres of the belfry, whirled away southward and westward in gusty blasts of clamour to the sleeping counties went the music of the bells – little Gaude, silver Sabaoth, strong John and Jericho, glad Jubilee, sweet Dimity and old Batty Thomas, with great Tailor Paul bawling and striding like a giant in the midst of them.
"Up and down went the shadows of the ringers upon the walls, up and down went the scarlet sallies flickering roof-wards and floor-wards, and up and down, hunting in their courses, went the bells of Fenchurch St Paul.
"Wimsey, his eye upon the ropes and his ear pricked for the treble’s shrill tongue speaking at lead, had little attention to give to anything but his task. He was dimly conscious of old Hezekiah, moving with the smooth rhythm of a machine, bowing his ancient back very slightly at each pull to bring Tailor Paul’s great weight over, and of Wally Pratt, his face anxiously contorted and his lips moving in the effort to keep his intricate course in mind.
"Wally’s bell was moving down now towards his own, dodging Number Six and passing her, dodging Number Seven and passing her, passing Number Five, striking her two blows at lead, working up again, while the treble came down to take her place and make her last snapping lead with Sabaoth. One blow in seconds place and one at lead, and Sabaoth, released from the monotony of the slow hunt, ran out merrily into her plain hunting course.
"High in the air above them the cock upon the weather vane stared out over the snow and watched the pinnacles of the tower swing to and fro with a slowly widening sweep as the tall stalk of stone gathered momentum and rocked like a windblown tree beneath his golden feet…”
If the Muslim barbarians, haters of music and smashers and melters-down of church bells, take England, then music like this will never be heard again.
No to sharia. Resist the Jihad.
jdamn is right. You have that stupid adhan going off @ 5:00AM, and Infidels aren't allowed to complain about that. Talk about projection!
Jewish but I have never been bothered by church bells. I can even be awakened by them and drift back to sleep. Church bells resonate spiritually
The Muslim call to prayer is ugly and the only people impressed are Muslims.