Dutch cabinet gives in: Wilders is no Hitler anymore

Surely Wilders can sue these creeps for defamation. He should take them to the cleaners and thoroughly shame and discredit them. If I were a parent in Holland, I'd also be round to my kids' school in a flash and raising hell, threatening the schools and the spineless teachers therin with litigation for using this pernicious and vile material. In fact, I have a friend in Holland with an 11 year old who is prepared to do just that.

"Two thousand Dutch schools will receive mail from the state-subsidized Day of Respect Foundation this week. The Foundation is forced by the Dutch cabinet to correct its class material that states that Geert Wilders is to be compared to Adolf Hitler."
From the article.

Good, but not enough! If the "correction" is only in the form a some sort of piece of paper that is to be slipped into the original text, Wilder's victory will be symbolic only. The entire set of original materials should be recalled, then reprinted from scratch at the Foundations's expense, and an apology issued to Wilders. The Foundation should also be censured by the government for inciting "hate speech," i.e., hung by its own petard.

Yeah, this is not just slander. It's institutionalized slander. This should lead to a serious overhaul in the educational system, but it won't. Children should not be indoctrinated against fighting the good fight. Furthermore, I don't care if Hitler is president; it's never ok to demonize one's leaders in a classroom. Politics should not enter into it. Children should be left to believe what they want.

It sounds like this foundation is set up to miseducate the Dutch, not to re-educate them. Thank God my Jewish parents were smart enough to send me to Catholic school. I learned morality there. I also learned the truth about Islam -- that it has no morality.

Why do I get the uncomfortable feeling that if Hitler's attitudes and Goebbels' methods are at work here, they are represented by Ms Sharon Dijksma, the under-minister of Education?

Damn right, Ralph.

Ditto, Ralph.

The self-proclaimed dictators are easy to spot, it's the little Hitlers (Dijksma) that can sneak by you.

Hans Brinker, he of the silver skates, put his finger in the dyke (dijk) to save the Dutch from a flood.

Geert Wilders, he of the silver tongue, gave the finger to Sharon Dijksma, to save the Dutch from a different kind of flood.

LOL. Good one, Hugh.

Maybe I am Hitler....for "I am Geert Wilders".

American JW's- please stay safe no matter what happens today, tonight, and tomorrow.

Those leftards that wanted Wilders to be compared to Hitler would certainly never bring up, or want those kids to learn, the truth about the problem that ARAB MUSLIMS have with Muslim and Non-Muslim black people.

Neither would they want those kids to learn the truth about the problems that so many Muslims of all ethnicities have with:

- gay rights;

- women's rights;

- everything that their desert pirate/mass murderer/pedophile deemed "haram";

- letting children be children, instead of allowing louse-ridden adult men to "marry" nine-year old (or younger) girls;

- scientific inquiry;

- the arts;

- Hinduism, Buddhism and non-monotheistic religions;

- agnosticism and atheism;

- allowing Buddhists, Hindus, agnostics and atheists to live, rather than slaying them all in the name of allah (the imaginary);

- the lack of segregation based on sex;

- the criminalization of slavery;

- the criminalization of polygamy;

- freedom of speech;

Those who demonize Wilders will do everything in their power to try to prevent the Dutch from seeing who are those who really have a problem with "those who are different" (i.e., non-Muslims.)

It sounds like a child's game. Instead of being IT, someone gets to be HITLER.

Of course, it's not like we don't have our own collection of trouble makers:

Ayers Is No Education 'Reformer'
The new media spin is worse than Obama's original evasion.
By SOL STERN

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122411943821339043.html

At the top of the priority list of American educational reforms should be the removal of William Ayres, his ideas, and those who promulgate them from our education system. I've never been a fan of Chomsky, or "linguistic deconstruction", but since that "technique" is now established, and being used to discredit our civilization, it should be turned on its head and used to discredit Ayres and his fellow misfits.

"William Ayres, Distinguished Professor of Education"; that title should outrage everyone.

Being a bit of a young rebel is one thing. Bombing government facilities, planning genocide, and growing into a traitorous adult ideological leader are altogether different.

These ideologues are no longer just campus simpletons, occasionally amusing for their hysteria, but more often irritating for their hypocrisy, they are grabbing the reigns of power; look at congress.

That this man and his books are present in classrooms today, except as examples of the decline of critical thinking skills and an attack on free society, should shame all of us who believe in freedom and justice.

.... more evidence....

The Great Global Warming Swindle
By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, November 04, 2008

Frontpage's Jamie Glazov Interviews guest Martin Durkin, the producer of the documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=69129807-D8D6-4986-B6DC-FC772A431C8B

Durkin: I remember being young and foolish and a leftie. Reality was always a problem. Communist countries were clearly dreadful. The working class was obviously a heck of lot better off (instead of poorer) and they were not convinced by the arguments of middle-class Marxist-types (very sensibly). In fact the working class has always been a huge let-down to the left … as it is now to the greens.

Capitalism had delivered on a truly spectacular scale. This called for a bit of fancy footwork in theory terms. Hence reviving ‘alienation’ as a theme (Marcuse’s ‘One-Dimentional Man’ etc). Yes, we were all richer and healthier and more educated etc under capitalism, but we were more spiritually shallow. This drove the Marxists into the Romantic camp. Peasants are ‘whole’, whereas industrial workers are alienated from their ‘true selves’. It also led to post-structuralism. If Reason told us that capitalism had been a resounding success, then reason itself must be suspect. Rationalism was ‘just another narrative’. The overuse and misuse of the term ‘narrative’ reflects the heavy influence of muddle-headed English professors in this process. The left had lost the argument, so logical argument itself was to be attacked.

It does not upset the left, or the greens at all, that they are proved wrong again and again and again. They are motivated by things other than Reason. Sadly, this is true also of people who, professionally, are meant to be intellectuals.

Now we need the replacement materials to go out to Dutch school children immediately. MOHAMMED WAS LIKE HITLER. Mohammed ordered the mass murder of folk who were not like him. Mohammed called for and personally participated in the murder of people who refused to submit blindly to his rule.

Children, this murderer and vile human being, Mohammed, also claimed a divine right to plunder his victims!

... and another area where restoring honesty to education could avert potential catastrophe in the making… and no, global warming is not the catastrophe:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=69129807-D8D6-4986-B6DC-FC772A431C8B

The Great Global Warming Swindle
By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, November 04, 2008
Frontpage Interviews Martin Durkin, the producer of the documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle.

FP: And it was easy to rock the boat on global warming?

Durkin: Very easy. You just look at the science. It’s not there. All the data we have (real life data) contradicts their absurd models. But there was something else that upset them. They like to depict anyone who disagrees with them as corrupt. It was quite obvious in the film that this was nothing more than a very unpleasant attempt at censorship. Worse than this, they like to pose as radicals, with the best interests of poor people at heart. What we did in the film was to mention the fact that a very large section of the world’s population still does not enjoy the benefits of electricity. And we described in simple terms what this meant. These people burn wood or dried dung in their homes to cook their food. They have no artificial light or heat in their homes (huts). Their wretched fires give off horrific amounts of smoke and eat up fuel (trees). When it gets dark they must sleep. When it gets cold they shiver (it gets cold in Africa too you know). And of course no electricity also means there are no fancy things like water purification plants.

…

I have filmed quite a bit in poor countries. The problems they face are obvious and upsetting. This more than anything makes me feel angry at the green movement. They kill people, they keep them in misery.

This, as much as the sober assessment of global warming theory, rocked the boat.

The greens have hated me ever since Against Nature. It doesn’t bother me at all. I regard them as the lowest of the low.

FP: There seems to be a mental illness of some kind, associated with the leftist vision in general. They almost don’t care about reality at all, but only their political faith. The moment one cause is discredited they just move on to the next. How do you diagnose it? It’s a hatred of one’s own society, a hatred of oneself, or what? I know you have already labelled anti-capitalism as one ingredient, but please expand on the mindset here a bit.

Durkin: I remember being young and foolish and a leftie. Reality was always a problem. Communist countries were clearly dreadful. The working class was obviously a heck of lot better off (instead of poorer) and they were not convinced by the arguments of middle-class Marxist-types (very sensibly). In fact the working class has always been a huge let-down to the left … as it is now to the greens.
Capitalism had delivered on a truly spectacular scale. This called for a bit of fancy footwork in theory terms. Hence reviving ‘alienation’ as a theme (Marcuse’s ‘One-Dimentional Man’ etc). Yes, we were all richer and healthier and more educated etc under capitalism, but we were more spiritually shallow. This drove the Marxists into the Romantic camp. Peasants are ‘whole’, whereas industrial workers are alienated from their ‘true selves’. It also led to post-structuralism. If Reason told us that capitalism had been a resounding success, then reason itself must be suspect. Rationalism was ‘just another narrative’. The overuse and misuse of the term ‘narrative’ reflects the heavy influence of muddle-headed English professors in this process. The left had lost the argument, so logical argument itself was to be attacked.

It does not upset the left, or the greens at all, that they are proved wrong again and again and again. They are motivated by things other than Reason. Sadly, this is true also of people who, professionally, are meant to be intellectuals.

Capitalism has delivered a descent education to very large numbers for the first time in human history -- despite the state being so incompetent in this area. The market value of intellectuals -- especially post-structuralist English critics -- is not high. No wonder they’re not fond of the market. Academic scientists too, I find, are often left-leaning, and you can see this in the complexion of support for ‘global warming’.

I think we have a battle on our hands. An intellectual and moral battle -- there is a lot at stake. And, sadly, too few of us recognise it, or understand where the battle-lines are drawn. To fight for the values of the enlightenment properly -- the interlocking values of Freedom, Reason and Progress -- we need to understand fully why they are so desperately important. We also need to understand properly the character and nature of the opposition.

The waters are muddy at the moment. We need make them clear.

The Goverment has given in, but this story will continue.
The books have been spread, with the text.

http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2008/11/dag_van_respect_lesmateriaal_a.html#comments

Video's: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/290551/d6af5910/kamervraag_martin_bosma.html

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/290541/3d8f503d/rita_verdonk.html

Now now, David England. You're being grossly unfair to Mr. Hitler. Hitler was a snzzy dresser. Hitler was a hard worker, while Mo lived his entire life as a parasite. Hitler put together his manifesto in short order, while Mo didn't even really finish his given 23 years. Hitler's manifesto is succinct, fairly logical (if full of outright lies and a few major logical fallacies), and not very repetitive, while the Koran, well... Hitler wasn't a sexist or a pedophile or a rapist, he didn't commit incest or rape a little retarded girl, or anyone else for that matter, and he treated his concubine very well. Hitler stressed education and self-determination. Hitler put country first. Mo was such a degenerate that it's not remotely fair to compare him to Hitler. They were both self-interested, unscrupulous, genocidal fascists and cult leaders, and that's where the similarities end. There's a whole bunch more terriblr things to be said about Mo.

When I first read about the Day of Respect Foundation's (read, Dutch Department of Education - huh!)attempt to indoctrinate its children regarding Mr. Wilders -yes, he is, shall we say, a little extreme, but only so because he clearly and accurately understands the mortal threat of islam to his country, and to the world-, my mind went blank with incredulity. The effect momentarily left me wordless. Sort of like being in shock. It was just too unbelievable. How does an idea like this even get started? And, from a group of "educators"! What kind of minds are those which put so much effort and resources into something so ugly, ignorant, and ill-willed. One has to think that maybe such people are fascists at heart. To me it's an inherent evilness, on the order of the satanic cult of islam.

jdam- love your comparisons and never thought Adolph could look so.....uhmmm... favorable!

But this part of the article struck me:

"An international avalanche of publicity, including on many American websites, put tremendous pressure on the Dutch cabinet."

Was JW one of those websites?...probably, but we'll never know the extent.

This is instructive because it tells me that anti-jihad websites can make differences and that some European politicians do care somewhat about American sentiments. I am not saying we (the US) can effect drastic changes, but contributions that assist counter-jihadists, no matter how significant (or insignificant) by way of voicing dissent or support of certain policies are worthwhile.

I hope that JW/DW continues to follow Wilders and the PVV.

I forgot to add that Hitler was democratically elected, while Mo came to power by killing, raiding, and looting unarmed civilians. Nazism, while evil, disgusting, and intolerable, was just a reworked, modern Islam that had to appeal to a far more intelligent, far more civilized, outbred, self-determined, educated people. I just hate how Nazis are portrayed as being the lowest of the low, when in reality, they had it all over Muslims. Nothing is lower or more disgusting than Islam, and the fact that Nazism is somehow quite defensible by contrast pretty much says it all. Nazism is part and parcel of Islam, but it's only a tiny aspect of it. Muslims are all Nazis by definition, but they're so much worse than that. Read the Koran and Mein Kampf back to back. Mein Kampf, while incredibly disturbing and pretty absurd, is candy and flowers compared to the Koran.

jdamn - I have never read Mein Kampf, but when I read the Qur'an I kept thinking to myself - "How can anyone think that this is a religion?"

You wonder if the penalty for apostasy was lifted, exactly how many Muslims would there be?

tanstaafl,

I know you asked jdamn, not me (I know, "not I" is correct, but it sounds stuffy), but Mein Kampf is every bit as hard to read, and every bit as boring as the Qur'an. Where the Qur'an is repetitive, Mein Kampf is just dense.

Either book would be suitable as a substitute for Unisom.

I actually think they're pretty interesting from an academic perspective. Yeah, they're boring, but they're both great examples of how NOT to make an argument. Hitler could never have made it as a lawyer, nor could Mo. All the logical fallacies, ridiculous lies, and in the case of the Koran bad science and math, and screwed-up history (whereas it's just made-up in Mein Kampf) make them both absolutely fascinating, if only because of how seriously they were/are taken by people. The Hadith, on the other hand, are interesting and fun because of all the sex and violence, not to mention the laughable superstition. Totally inappropriate for "religious" texts, but still fun reads.