“I surely hope that President Obama does muzzle critics of Islam”

The Hate Mail Bag this morning contained this eloquent missive from Charlotte, North Carolina, from someone who is less than enamored of the First Amendment and not too firmly in touch with reality:

I surely hope that President Obama does muzzle critics of Islam. How long have our prior administrations as well as our current administration been muzzling critics of Israel? I also think that your Jihad Watch is nothing Islam-bashing…

Enough is enough already….

Let’s see: how long have prior administrations been muzzling critics of Israel? Yeah, who could forget those long prison terms that have been served by the long-muzzled Jimmy Carter, Pat Buchanan, Noam Chomsky, Rashid Khalidi, the late Edward Said, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, and on and on. The nation’s prisons have been filled with muzzled critics of Israel! Let them out! Unmuzzle them!

Oh, and back on the Planet Earth, if Jihad Watch is “nothing Islam-bashing,” then the worst “Islam-bashing” took place on September 11, 2001, and Muslims around the world have just kept on bashing Islam ever since then.

Enough is enough already!

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Comments

  1. says

    Dude, if you hate the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, can’t stand Islam-bashing but wish for more Israel-bashing, then Saudi Arabia awaits. I’ll throw down $10 to buy this chick a ticket because I have that much respect for her freedom of speech, even as a poor grad student living on loans. Anyone else wanna go in on it with me?

  2. says

    “I surely hope that President Obama does muzzle critics of Islam”

    How have we reached a point where a Mohammedan feels they can actually say this in America?

    Because President Bush, who should have retaliated in some way on September 12, declared instead that “Islam is peace,” and has been kowtowing to Islam ever since, and forcing us to do the same.

    Such a squawk from a Mohammedan was never – never – heard prior to 9/11.

  3. says

    Well, if it isn’t painfully obvious by now, this Islamofacist hits the nail on the head.

    He/she/it is a Muslim who happens to live in America, NOT an American Muslim.

    So where does the loyalty lie? Can you be a Muslim AND be a genuine American citizen? The actions of this individual demonstrate that the answer is no.

  4. says

    Three hundred dollars and an internet connection, makes it easy for every kind of mental aberration
    to manifest itself on the web.

    Opinions from ‘left’ field, and every kind of banality and mental corruption express themselves
    freely.

    These people have peptic ulcers, chronic constipation, and a crappy outlook on life.

    These people are not theraputic. They have no desire to ‘fix’ anything…only to regurgitate
    their last meal on the web.

    Not all Obama voters fall into that category, but all in that category are Obama voters…

    Ten to one the E-mail sender voted for Obama if he’s an American…

    This line proves his dementia…

    “I surely hope that President Obama does muzzle critics of Islam”.

    He’s right, enough is enough…There are already ‘impeach Obama’ web sites forming….

  5. says

    First Amendment to the US Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    It is simple and it is concise and it reads as one sentence only, and yet we have people in this country that still don’t understand it.

  6. says

    Islam is a disgusting, revolting, violent and hateful ideology that directs its followers to murder non Muslims at a wholesale rate. Islam has committed mass murder of non Muslims that cannot be rivaled by any other diabolical ideology that has come and gone in human history. Even if you take all the evil in human history and add them up, Islam still comes out on the top. Yes that is what Islam will be remembered for. A crowning achievement that the Mohammedans can take to their porn, pedophilia heaven.

  7. says

    It is simple and it is concise and it reads as one sentence only, and yet we have people in this country that still don’t understand it.
    Posted by: Mackie

    I agree in principal, but I think the majority of the mis-understander’s, understand it all to well. They just hate it. The First is ‘inconvenient’ to ‘progress’, as is most of the ‘Bill of Right’s’.

    For a long time America has been softened up for rulership. The government has sought to replace God in our lives, and has been highly successful at it. This is nearly complete with Obamessiah.
    The cult of Obama is the front organization for a multitude of America destroyers, including Islam.

    I think it will take Obamessiah about three months to consolidate his power, and then he will move rapidly to institute his programs…whatever they are.

    I’m not sure even the leftist public can stand changes that are too rapid, and ‘that’ will call the honeymoon off. Necessary actions against jihadists/terrorists/Islam, will call that honeymoon off.

    Soon, Ayatollah Obama will have no honeymoon left.

    Within a year his impeachment will be called for…it has already started …

  8. says

    Obama wants to create a homeland “civilian army”, these are his words, “to be as well funded as the army”. Don’t know if I’m being paranoid but why does America need a citizen army when America has the National Guard, Homeland Security, ATF, the police, FBI etc.

    What will this citizen army be protecting and enforcing?

    Bloggers get ready to be shut down and face virtual charges of racism and fascism from Americas left wing youth. I see a show trial of one of the top anti jihadists looming plus radio talk show hosts being shut down or sued, Michael Savage in particular.

  9. says

    It is simple and it is concise and it reads as one sentence only, and yet we have people in this country that still don’t understand it.

    Posted by: Mackie

    They understand it but they figure it can be reinterpreted – the “living Constitution”. The limits on speech that have already been set by the long-ago ruling that shouting “fire” in a crowded theater isn’t protected by the First Amendment, as well as laws against libel and slander, have opened the door. They have set up definitions of “hate speech” that are used to limit what people can say, and even how they can think. They’re set to bring back the ‘fairness doctrine’, in an effort to stifle conservative talk radio. People who will argue over the meaning of “is” aren’t likely to worry about a few words in a document written over two centuries ago. We’re in a new world order. Internationalism is the order of the day. To some of them, the American Constitution itself is outdated.

  10. says

    Barry didn’t win this on his own. This was as much a victory for deception by the press and their backers in academia et al. This isn’t going to stop with the election. Anything barry says or does will be reported in his favor just as any of his opponents will be demonized. Their first priorities will be to legalize 12-20 million new democratic voters while at the same time shutting down any opposition media. The fairness doctrine will be reinstated one way or another, probably under a different name. The only thing in their way is 4 or 5 supreme court justices and the courage of republicans in The Senate to filibuster in the face of a one sided press.

  11. says

    “I surely hope that President Obama does muzzle critics of Islam.”
    From the article.

    Robert, I sincerely hope you and the other leaders of the West such as Pipes who are perceived as being “critics of Islam” are setting up mechanisms for countering efforts of such idiots as this. It would not surprise me if Obama tried something like this after first laying the necessary groundwork by forming a suitably named commission for “religious tolerance” or some such, stuffing it with members of CAIR, maybe as part of the spin sending an official observer to the OIC (retch, gag), and then ratcheting up the PR spin machine to a very high volume needed to drown out the voices of those who might protest.

    Better to nip the possibility of this in the bud if that is possible.

    Count me in for $20.

  12. says

    Not too long ago and again today, I have heard talk of the “Fairness Doctrine” being re-instated under the democrap congress and BHO regime. That alone will give them plenty of censorship of any conservative, anti-jihadist, pro-America, anti-Obama…etc, broadcaster, blogger, writer, commentator, etc. The 1st Amendment will be under attack. But I am pretty sure, that this Fairness Doctrine will only favor those leftist, liberal, Pro-Obamabots, Pro-muslim, pro-sharia, pro-socialist zombies.
    Oooh, the Dark Ages are upon again. History does repeat itself.

  13. says

    Not too long ago and again today, I have heard talk of the “Fairness Doctrine” being re-instated under the democrap congress and BHO regime. That alone will give them plenty of censorship of any conservative, anti-jihadist, pro-America, anti-Obama…etc, broadcaster, blogger, writer, commentator, etc. The 1st Amendment will be under attack. But I am pretty sure, that this Fairness Doctrine will only favor those leftist, liberal, Pro-Obamabots, Pro-muslim, pro-sharia, pro-socialist zombies.
    Oooh, the Dark Ages are upon again. History does repeat itself.

  14. says

    I surely hope that President Obama does muzzle critics of Islam.

    -most of the media, politicians of all stripes, and some segments of academia already muzzle themselves re Islam criticism.

    -I do not know whether Obama wants to muzzle Islam critics, but I suspect such a move would be very unpopular among the general public in the U.S. In recent years, attempts to muzzle Islam critics have been unpopular in the general publics of Canada, U.K., Australia, Denmark, the Netherlands, and other European countries. The general public in the U.S. probably has less political correctness and more passion for free expression than most if not all of those countries just mentioned. Being (like any western politician) concerned with popularity, Obama would be well advised to not attempt to shut down criticism of Islam. Whereas Bush had the burden of constantly having to prove himself as not hostile to Islam, Obama will have the burden of proving that he is a strong defender of the U.S. and its freedoms, including freedom of expression.

    How long have our prior administrations as well as our current administration been muzzling critics of Israel?

    -They haven’t, otherwise they would have shut down Islamic Studies and Middle Eastern Studies departments in universities across the country.

    -Using Israel as a categorical contrast to Islam is curious. Is she implying that the ideology of Islam is opposed to the state of Israel? In any case, is she aware that 16% of the population of Israel is Muslim? Surely she is not opposed to those Israelis. It is reasonable to think that by “Israel” she actually meant “Jews.”

    I also think that your Jihad Watch is nothing Islam-bashing…

    -it’s primarily a news site.
    -there are plenty of problems in Islam that should be criticized.
    -there are plenty of Islam apologists who have posted here over the years. Also, when Robert debates well-known Islam apologists, he posts their statements so people can follow the arguments and make up their own mind.

  15. says

    Why is it that no other mainstream religious group in the west today wants to shut down freedom to criticize their religion? Only Muslims (i.e., the majority of them) want criticism of their own religion to be shut down, while they of course are free to criticize all other religions.

  16. says

    Stand and fight, peacefully and persistently, in the public arena. I’t won’t be so easy for them to silence all of us.” –Robert Spencer

    Right on!!

  17. says

    Stand and fight, peacefully and persistently, in the public arena. It won’t be so easy for them to silence all of us.” –Robert Spencer

    Right on!!

  18. says

    It always amazes me when people come out with stuff like that. Are they purposefully ignorant or are they too scared to see what is happening around them? They just swallow whatever the “liberals” tell them. What also interests me is the way they try to take the moral high ground and then make clear that they are anti-semites.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if they actually took a look at the world in an objective fashion. But then the left have never allowed facts to get in the way of what they want to be true.

  19. says

    “Why is it that no other mainstream religious group in the west today wants to shut down freedom to criticize their religion? Only Muslims (i.e., the majority of them) want criticism of their own religion to be shut down, while they of course are free to criticize all other religions.”
    Posted by: Kinana of Khaybar

    Exactly. Islamic intolerance of freedom of expression and their outrageous demands to be protected from criticism needs to be exposed and rejected, as firmly and loudly as is necessary to be heard.

  20. says

    “Why is it that no other mainstream religious group in the west today wants to shut down freedom to criticize their religion? Only Muslims (i.e., the majority of them) want criticism of their own religion to be shut down, while they of course are free to criticize all other religions.”
    Posted by: Kinana of Khaybar

    Exactly. Islamic intolerance of freedom of expression and their outrageous demands to be protected from criticism need to be exposed and rejected, as firmly and loudly as is necessary to be heard.

  21. says

    Just out of curiosity. What are your thoughts on the vicious crimes that the media ignores and most people remain oblivious to.

    1) Mass arial bombings of Baghdad, other Iraqi cities and Afghanistan, bombings that have killed, maimed, orphaned and disposed millions of civilians, civilians that posed no threat to the US, and also Iraq could not even take down one US fighter jet so I doubt they could have attacked the US, but then again the administration new this and Iraq not having WMD’s is what allowed your fascist country to invade and occupy it.

    2) What are your thoughts on the use of MK77, which was primarily used on the civilians of Falujah, and basically turned human bodies(men, women and children) into charcoal, I can send you the pics, but you probably dont care.

    3) what are your views on them cowardly filthy terrorist you call soldiers, the ones that humiliate, oppress and shoot unarmed civilian men, women and children, yet they cower and squeal when the Mujahideen appear and call for arial support as opposed to fighting like men. Again, I can send videos and pictures both when they play the big tyrant with unarmed civilians and when they cower and squeal when the faced with the Mujahideen.

    4) What are your views on the wide spread, torture, rape and murder of countless detainees be they civilians or freedom fighters? Women repeatedly gang raped, humiliated and impregnated by those scum bag, criminal low IQ cowards you call soldiers and heroesm who infact were classed as criminals in your own country before being given the opportunity to rob rape and murder and be heroes in doing so. Again pictures, testimonies etc are available for any one of conscience that dares seek the truth, as opposed to being brain washed by US political and media deception.

    5)What are your views about the old men who were humiliated, tortured, defecated and unrinated on and made to drink menstrual blood? What are your views on the children made to watch as their family and homes were destroyed by the self claimed good guys the USA?

    Just because the Neo-con controlled media fails to acknowledge these crimes, does not mean they have, and do, not occur. The pictures and testimonies of both the oppressed and oppressors are out there. So how can you claim any sort of moral high ground? How can this hypocrrite Spencer and those tyrants even claim to be God fearing Christians. or people that do good.

    Every US soldier on Iraqi, Afghan or Arab soil is a terrorist. You talk about the so-called stealth and violent Jihad to control the world, which infact is just a Jihad to liberate the Muslim world from American political, economic and military occupation. The only attempt to impose on others is from the USA through its stealth media, economic (eg forcing the dollar on other), political (puppet regimes) and overt military crusade.

    If the USA is not an imperialistic tyrant, that controls and dominates overs through intimidation and straight up slaughter then why does the USA have military bases throughout the world, war ships in all the oceans and nukes pointed at every major city in the world? Because the USA is an imperialistic tyrant state, that controls the world at the barrel of a gun, and accuses others of doing what it has and continues to do, while hiding under the facade of righteousness and goodliness

  22. says

    Two points:

    …”why does America need a citizen army when America has the National Guard, Homeland Security, ATF, the police, FBI etc”…

    You forgot to the bitter rednecks clinging to their guns, the general population of the U.S. is probably better armed than the regular armies of some large countries around the world. We, as a people need no armed militia to protect us, thank you very much. Just don’t even try to take our guns away, it ain’t gonna happen.

    In regards to the “Fairness Doctrine” and the overall idea of censoring the general public. Take away the internet, the news papers, am and fm radio and television, and we stil have ham radio. Private citizens have access to equipment that can broadcast across the country, relayed in stages if necessary, to keep those bitter, gun clinging patriots well informed in the event of hostile takeover. Printing hundreds of fliers is childs play, recording digital or analog statements for covert distribution is sixth grade game playing. In color, in stereo, in the dark of night, we will never submit.
    I am not worried.

    Later
    Albert

  23. says

    ISLAM BASHING??!!

    What’s not to like about ISLAM??!!

    sarc off

    Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims. How’s that for reasons to Bash-Islam.

    Islam is a cancer, and it is something the free world cannot afford. I want the fascist Qur’an banned. We need to stop the Islamisation of the world. That means no more mosques/Islamic schools/no more imams. The spread of this cancer needs to stop.

    Free speech or hate speech? Since when is being honest ‘hate speech’? I don’t hate people, and I don’t hate Muslims, but I do hate their book and their ideology because that is based upon hatred and falsehoods: false prophet, false god, and it’s a manual for murder.

    Again, what’s not to like about Islam, huh?

    You’re a funny-one, Charlotte, North Carolina. LOL!

  24. says

    Posted by: Benson at November 6, 2008 12:35 PM

    Now you are spamming you Mohammedan troll. That is grounds for swift dismissal.

  25. says

    Leon: What will this citizen army be protecting and enforcing?

    They will come to your neighborhood, ‘restore order’, and ‘protect’ you from the ‘bad guys’…Even if it takes tanks.

    I’m convinced that Benson is John Kerry, or maybe John Murtha, but certainly a John…

  26. says

    As a devote Christian, I hope our religion’s critics keep doing their job. From Celsus to Nietzsche, our enemies have helped Christianity to become the strong, rational, coherent, and truly peaceful religion that it is.

    Criticism is a blessing if one’s religion is about truth.

  27. says

    Albert

    good point.

    Some thoughts of my own.

    First: if the worst were to happen – if, God forbid, jihadwatch and places like it were shut down as ‘hate speech’ – I hope that regular posters here, those who have come to trust each other over months and sometimes years, have taken steps to make sure they can contact each other – even work with each other face to face – outside of this forum.

    Sharing one’s real identity, home address etc with Mr Spencer, in a snailmail letter sent c/o his publishers, might also be worth doing. I would completely trust his capacity to keep such information confidential.

    Second thought for the day: I can’t recall whether I read it recently, or in the archives, but Mr Spencer on at least one occasion has praised his publishers for their courage.

    We readers of his books owe them for that. We’ve been taking them for granted. God bless them for taking on Mr Spencer’s ‘hot potato’ books – especially ‘Truth About Muhammad’. Think about it: they’re gearing up to publish ‘An Infidel’s Guide to the Koran’!!

    Write to them and thank them for upholding freedom of speech – and their services in the cause of freedom not only in the USA but in the world. For all we know, they may have copped some very nasty flak for publishing Mr Spencer’s books.

    Thirdly: I hope that all of us will make an effort to keep donations flowing into the jihadwatch kitty, quite apart from all those books we buy, books that are more than worth the price.

    Finally: the USA has ACT for America – so those American posters and lurkers who haven’t yet signed onto that, should be hastening to do so.

  28. says

    Robert,Hugh,Marisol & Raymond
    isn’t it time one of you banned this bl**dy Benson fellow? That is one seriously mentally ill man.The impression he must give of this respectable discussion site surely out-weighs any contribution he is capable of giving.

    Reacher

  29. says

    gamblerschoice, albert

    Obama wont need to ban guns to create gun control. He is already planning on heavily taxing ammunition and requiring ALL guns to have I.D. stamps on the firing pins. Any weapon that has no i.d. will be confiscated and YOU WILL go to jail for a felony. He also has plans to ban home DIY reloading of ammunition.
    Lastly Obama i will also will ban any citizen from owning large quantities of ammo.

    This is the loophole in the 2nd amendment, ammunition control.

  30. says

    This plan is not new information, leon. And while I appreciate your providing it as the warning I interpret it as, I also must point out that it is a “plan”. Having a plan and implimenting it are two different things. The confiscation of weapons in new orleans during katrina was a wake up call for the true gun rights activists/advocates. It will not happen again.

    And your comment to benson, I believe his trousers are wrapped around something a bit higher than his ankles…
    Later
    Albert

  31. says

    GamblersChoice,

    Worst of all, if Obama takes away our free speach and guns, in addition to every thing you mentioned we might do what he might hate worst of all…march on Washington by the tens of millions in front of TV cameras just like in his friend’s banana republic down south.

  32. says

    albert

    as an NRA member i understand that it is a plan, but with congress and the the Executive Branch under the cultural marxists, plus the media, I fear that it won’t be a plan for very long.

    The problem is, guns will be heavily demonized, cultural marxism will be spinning out of control over the dangers of guns and we will see school shootings that will make the media headlines scream “enough is enough”! And then ammunition will be heavily taxed and controlled and fear will be spread amongst gun owners into them giving up their guns, and the majority will give up their guns.

    I’ve seen it work in the UK and Australia, plus Japan.

    Think it’s different in the USA? Americans just voted in a far left radical.

  33. says

    For Pete’s sake, BENSON! Get off of it! Be original! I have seen your post three times and skipped it three times! Do you really think any of us are dumb enough to read it again?

  34. says

    Since Charlotte loves Islam so much perhaps she should follow the rules of her own religion…

    In Islam a woman’s place is in the home, Charlotte – so shut up because your “mentally deficient” opinion means nothing. [courtesy of: Muslim imams worldwide]

  35. says

    Since Charlotte loves Islam so much perhaps she should follow the rules of her own religion…

    In Islam a woman’s place is in the home, Charlotte – so shut up because your “mentally deficient” opinion means nothing. [courtesy of: Muslim imams worldwide]

    Posted by: Stefcho at November 7, 2008 6:52 AM

    Exactly. Shut Up, “Charlotte,” – Islam commands that you do so! Hey, your sole job is to “manufacture men” – Mohammed. After which, you go to hell, also courtesy your evil Warlord.