The Deccan Mujahideen -- warriors of jihad. Is it all right to mention that fact? As Pamela asks, "Are we allowed to talk about it, or is this insulting to Islam and in violation of the UN resolution against 'defaming Islam'"?
"Report: Little-known group claims India attacks," from AP, November 26:
MUMBAI, India (AP) - A media report says a little-known group, the Deccan Mujahideen, has claimed responsibility for the Mumbai terrorist attacks.The Press Trust of India news agency said Thursday the group sent emails to several media outlets.
Teams of heavily armed gunmen attacked a crowded train station in southern Mumbai and Leopold's restaurant, a well-known Mumbai landmark, along with the two hotels and a police station.
Officials say at least 78 people were killed and another 200 wounded. In addition, the attackers were holding hostages Thursday morning....
Whew, glad it was a little-known group. I was starting to think was well coordinated and part of something much larger. Once they apprehend these guys everything will be fine (again).
The Deccan Mujahdein. Islamic terrorists. Wow it is funny that every article so far excludes the word Islamic but only uses terrorists. The truth will always win. Not only does this make those who cover the truth but it also makes them party to the perpetrators. Denying and overlooking the facts is in effect saying that we agree with what they are doing. Something has gone very wrong in the world and our leadership.
It seems to me that Islam gets a free ride here as well at the cost of women, children and men going about their daily business. These killings will begin to add up more and more. It is the reality and Islamic terrorists will keep killing and non Muslims are expendable. Their lives are worthless as long as we do not mention Islam as the cause of terror and appease the Muslims.
Jihadis? The hell you say.
Little known group. Now they are really are known. I thought we had known this for the past 1400 years. Islamic Jihadis, the Mujahedins etc. The are so many Islamic terrorist groups it is amazing that all the moderate Muslims are doing nothing about. I mean I wonder what do these moderate Muslims are doing anyways?
Savsiv, nothing...that's why they call them moderates. If they started to do anything it surely wouldn't be to "defend" their religion from, well, themselves.
When's the only time you should wink at a Muslim?
When you're aiming!
And they all have nothing in common. This is why we can focus on Al Qaeda and once we get them, it will be all over. I sure hope President-elect Obama doesn't stick to his views on terrorism like he did with the war in Iraq. I doubt it, but like every other guess, it could be wrong.
The view from Australia:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/27/2431048.htm?section=justin
Indian community shocked by Mumbai attacks
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Posted 9 minutes ago
Updated 10 minutes ago
"The Indian community in Australia has expressed shock at the terrorist attacks in India's financial capital Mumbai.
"At least 78 people have been killed and more than 200 injured after terrorists armed with automatic weapons and hand grenades carried out the attacks across the city this morning.
"Some Indians in Australia are concerned for the safety of their relatives.
"India Club president Shubha Kumar says her niece had a lucky escape from the Oberoi, one of the hotels that were attacked.
"My niece was staying there so I tried to contact her, but I couldn't find her, so I rang her father and she advised him that the Oberoi hotel people, the staff, took all the residents very swiftly out to the safe place," she said.
"They took them down to the basement and then took them out to the street and made sure the people were safe. They were very good in doing that."
"Other targets included the Taj hotel, the city's main Chhatrapati Shivaji railway station, the Cama hospital and the Cafe Leopold, near the Taj Hotel and perhaps the most famous restaurant and hang-out for tourists in the city."
Mass murder...just one more repercussion of illegal immigration from Bangladesh.
Today we cry for India...
Condolences for my Indian friends.
And hit these bastards hard.
Posted by: Comic ReliefWhew, glad it was a little-known group.
Yes, I'm relieved as well. It is quite likely that as this group does not have any relations with al Qaeda, thus this terrorist atrocity has nothing to do with Islam.
Cornelius
The repercussions are keenly felt in Assam (bombings, shootings etc - the standard Islam thing), where the indegenous population is now almost a minority due to illegal immigration from Bangladesh.
As an Indian, I am outraged at these despicable attacks, and also angry at my govt for engaging in the kind of dhimmi appeasement which has only emboldened these predators to attack us again and again.
This time the terrorists are calling themselves "Deccan Mujahedin", and the last time they called themselves "Indian Mujahedin". The fact that they are going out of their way to brand themselves under local names makes me smell a rat. Their naming formula seems to be
"(Insert-local-name-here) Mujahedin"
So next time they'll call themselves "Mumbai Mujahedin", "Calcutta Mujahedin", "Bangalore Mujahedin", or "New Delhi Mujahedin", etc, etc.
I think that hardliners from Pakistan's ISI and also Taliban/AlQaeda types are behind these attacks, just like they blew up India's embassy in Afghanistan a few months ago, as corroborated by the CIA.
But ask yourself -- why would some local killers be so interested in US and British passport holders?
Well, we've managed to catch some of them, so we'll soon find out what's going on.
The common denominator is Pakistan + Muslim.
I hope India responds with a crushing blow.
And hopefully if someone in India gets a call from Ms. Condi Rice that says 'please refrain aggression towards Pakistan', I hope that person tells Condi 'where to stick it'. And also points out that these Pakistan trained terrorists were targeting 'American and British' citizens too.
A BBC report on the explosion had this in their article:
Most of the attacks have been blamed on Muslim militants, although police have also arrested suspected Hindu extremists.
Why are these people referred to as Journalists?
They do anything to hide the truth. Do not expect truth or even plain simple facts from them.
Actually, Alaskan1000, 'Pakistan' is no longer necessarily part of the equation, as these guys seem to be Bangladeshi. The common denominator, as always, is 'Muslim.'
Why are these people referred to as Journalists?
norman, journalism died in 2008, the msm are in league with our enemies.
Does it matter what islamic group commits these murderous acts, Indians need to unite and kick out these islamist murderous thugs out of your country. the pak was created for muslims, tell them to leave for the pak and take down those mosques in Indai, just keeping one as museum would be fine. All non muslim governments need to realize islam is not a relgion but a death cult that needs to be banned.
This is as depressing as it is expected. But think of it, most people have a pretty good impression of India, especially the high tech, modern Bollywood version compared to any dirt scum Muslim hole. So if this finally sets off some sturm and drang civil war in India or at least a large scale crackdown against Muslims, then the rest of the world might take it to be a sign it's time to kick their Muslims in line before they get swamped by them.
"The Deccan Mujahdein. Islamic terrorists. Wow it is funny that every article so far excludes the word Islamic but only uses terrorists. The truth will always win. Not only does this make those who cover the truth but it also makes them party to the perpetrators. Denying and overlooking the facts is in effect saying that we agree with what they are doing. Something has gone very wrong in the world and our leadership."
I noticed the same exact thing. Liberals have tried to brain wash the country into thinking that Muslim extremists are NOT a problem. Unfortunately, they ARE a problem. They have been messing with the United States since the beginning of the country.
Christopher Hamilton
The Right Opinion, for the Right Wing
savsiv:
I mean I wonder what do these moderate Muslims are doing anyways?
Based on past experience, I would say that they are currently explaining that Christians are just as bad because of the Crusades. They are also probably suggesting that Mossad and the CIA were behind the attacks. I am also not ruling out the possibility that they are accusing the media of fabricating the whole tihng.
norman
they are referred to as journalists because part of their job is to relay official communiques from relevant authorities like the police.
Jihadists???? I'm shocked, I say, SHOCKED. The whole time these attacks had all the hallmarks of Baptists and Mormons!!!! Well, "live and learn", my Grandma always said.
In 1978 I used to spend hours sitting in the lobby of the Taj Mahal in Bombay watching Arabs buy young girls from Muslim fathers for their harem. It used to go on all day. The sheiks used to sit in the lobby in their kaftans twirling their prayer beads, accompanied by their fully burka-clad wifes, and if they liked what they saw they would make a sign and make the deal with the father of the future bride.
Here is the Islamist logic:
The whole world becomes Dar-al-Islam through Jihad and Dawa.
There is peace upon the world under Allah.
Then, Sunnis annihilate Shiites and Sufis. And there is peace upon the world under Allah.
Then, Sunni Arabs annihilate Sunni non-Arabs. And there is peace upon the world under Allah.
Then, Sunni Arab Tribe X annihilates all other tribes. And there is peace upon the world under Allah.
Then, Sunni Arab Tribe X Clan A annihilates all other clans. And there is peace upon the world under Allah.
Then, Sunni Arab Tribe X Clan A Family M annihilates all other families. And there is peace upon the world under Allah.
Then, the patriarch of Sunni Arab Tribe X Clan A Family M engages is in some honor killing. And there is peace upon the world under Allah.
Then, the patriarch of Sunni Arab Tribe X Clan A Family M is all alone, the last remaining member of the human species. Since there is nobody else to kill, a suicide bombing is out of the question. So he becomes old and dies and cockroaches inherit the Earth.
FYI, the scumbags attacked the hospitals too, where the wounded were being treated.
Check it out: FOX News Accurately identified the group. CNN of course Can't figure it out beyond "gunmen". closer to the end of the article they come up with this:
>>A group called Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility, IBN reported, but analysts told CNN that may be a front name to throw investigators off who was really behind the attacks.
Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us.
-- the "holy prophet" Mohammed, who never prophesized a thing
Mohammed was a damned liar. He loved killing. Was real big on it. As are Moslems even today.
The Moslem activists were looking to murder some Christians in the Taj Hotel. But I'm sure they regard all the Hindus they slaughtered as an Islamic bonus points.
* 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 *
Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
-- Allah's command to all Moslems in Koran 8:39
Kill! Kill! Kill! Let's have some mass murder ou there! Yeah!
The BBC has to be considered a Pro Islamist network, working overtime to disconnect Jihad from terrorism.
Btw here is a nice example of a self proclaimed "moderate Muslim" in the UK I've seen on YouTube pages. And he claims to be a policeman in UK also.
http://www.youtube.com/user/bhamlions1
Look at the list of his favorite videos and tell me more about the myth of the moderate Muslim
Purple Prose,
How depressingly prophetic.
My question is, will the Copts, Christians, Hindus and all other non-Muslims be slaughtered or retained to tax and live off, like parasites?
I watched CNN for 30 minutes. I never heard the word 'Islamic'.
I did hear ' We actually know nothing about this group'
The group is called Deccan Mujahadin and CNN 'KNOWS NOTHING' about them?
They are dumber than Sgt. Schultz
They know nothink, they know nothink
Rev, I checked out that guy's YouTube site. His profile reads
Name: Adham
Age: 19
Mix Race 6ft Plus Male
Half Paki, Half Turk
City: Birmingham
Hometown: Oldham
Country: United Kingdom
Occupation: Police Helicopter Pilot
Schools: College
Interests and Hobbies: Gym, Ladies, Kuffar Bashing, Etc
Movies and Shows: Jihad, Training Day, Lord Of The Kings The Return Of The King, Etc
Music: RnB, Hip Hop, Rap, Naats, Islamic Songs, Etc
Books: Jihad
Question: the profile fits the type that should be expelled from the UK, but isn't 19 a little young to be a helicopter pilot, police or otherwise?
It's only a tiny radical fringe of Muslims committing these atrocities. The vast majority of moderate peace-loving Muslims merely wish to scold us for noticing.
Civilus Defendus,
I simply cannot see how the world, including American and European PC weenies, can stand by when non-Islamic sub-cultures (that once were the dominant cultures of those areas) are destroyed. Rank hypocrisy.
Of course, when it is Jews or Christians being killed or forced to assimilate and have their sub-cultures annihilated, then it's okay.
It seems that the Muslim world is so enraptured with the idea of final and absolute victory that the dhimmitude is no longer an option for their minorities. Not even dhimmis are allowed. They must all be destroyed. They want absolute absoluteness.
It is hard to imagine now, but Egypt was once the cradle of Hellenic civilization. The Middle East was once the center of Judaism and Christianity. There was once a Byzantine/Eastern Roman Empire, centered around modern-day Turkey.
Islam destroyed all of that, and now they want to destroy the last remaining vestiges of that history.
Orthodox and Coptic Christians should take a lesson from the Palestinians and push for a restoration of their homeland in the Press and with the U.N. Of course, the difference is that Orthodox and Coptic Christians, unlike Palestinians, can actually claim a real culture and society associated with the land.
It is getting to be time for the 2nd battle of Ain Jalut. Only this time, the non-muslim side must prevail! Otherwise, we will all sink into poverty and chaos.
The "Report: Little-known group ...," is not so little known as assumed:
Check out this article dated Monday, September 15, 2008;
http://www.deccanherald.com/CONTENT/Sep152008/scroll2008091590090.asp?section=frontpagenews
Al Shaheed, good find.
What's wrong with the MSM that they can't recognize that it matters little what the specific group name is? If the name carries the Muslims. End of story. Do they take us for idiots?
From Dictionary.com
mujahideen - 3 dictionary results
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mu⋅ja⋅he⋅din
/muˌdʒɑhɛˈdin/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [moo-jah-he-deen] Show IPA Pronunciation
–plural noun (sometimes initial capital letter)
Muslim guerrilla fighters, esp. in Afghanistan and Iran.
Also, mu⋅ja⋅hed⋅din, mu⋅ja⋅hi⋅deen.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
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mu·ja·hi·deen also mu·ja·he·deen or mu·ja·hi·din (mōō-jä'hě-dēn') Pronunciation Key
pl.n. Muslim guerrilla warriors engaged in a jihad.
[Arabic or Persian mujāhidīn, pl. of Arabic mujāhid, one who fights in a jihad, active participle of jāhada, to fight; see ghd in Semitic roots.]
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
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mujahideen
noun
a military force of Muslim guerilla warriors engaged in a jihad; "some call the mujahidin international warriors but others just call them terrorists" [syn: mujahidin]
WordNet® 3.0, © 2006 by Princeton University.
My post above should have read
'If the name carries the term "mujahideen" then that alone is enough to finger the Muslims."
Sorry for the confusion, but the point still stands.
The BBC news website reports the attacks being by "gunmen".
That to me is the same as "youths" running riot in France.
Something that might help those of us for whom geography lessons happened long ago, and who may not have brushed up too much since then:
MAP SHOWING BOMBAY AND SITE OF ATTACKS.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/infographics/mumbai/
All new visitors to this site, especially non-Indians, are advised to consult V S Naipaul: 'India, A Wounded Civilisation', along with his classic titles 'Among the Believers: an Islamic Journey' and 'Beyond Belief: Among the Converted Peoples', in which he examined the effects of revivalist Islam in Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia. These books are an excellent read and very eye-opening.
You should also, if you have not already done so, obtain and read Andrew Bostom, 'Legacy of Jihad' - consult the index to find those sections of the book, drawn from classic non-Muslim and Muslim historians, which describe what the Muslim invaders and occupiers did to the non-Muslims of India.
*The* person to go to, besides those, is the Hindu Indian historian K S Lal, whose works are conveniently to be found online; here, for example, is the link for his book 'Muslim Slave System in Medieval India':
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/mssmi/
and here is another - 'The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India' -
http://www.voiceofdharma.com/books/tlmr/index.htm
Essentially, the murderous Muslim hordes invaded India from the 8th century onward, destroying everything in their path like a swarm of locusts. They systematically and sadistically mass-murdered civilians and non-combatants, raped and enslaved women, and stole, burned or deliberately smashed everything beautiful, holy or valuable. The death toll for just a portion - not the entire period - of Muslim jihad and viciously cruel domination of India, is guesstimated at some sixty to eighty MILLION people. That isn't counting those millions who were enslaved and treated like things.
There are modern jihadists today, in Pakistan, who have openly stated, within the past few years, their ambition of conquering India and reinstating a social order within which non-Muslim Indians will be used as SLAVES by the Muslims.
The jihadis' vision of the future, not only for India but for the whole world, is that which was encapsulated by George Orwell: a boot [that of the Muslim Uebermenschen] stamping down upon a human face [that of the enslaved and despised non-Muslims], forever.
--Now Breaking---CNN IBN Live Streaming of on going Mumbai,India attacks
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/video_streaming.php
These muslim terrorists might come from outside India BUT that does not diminish the fact that they had to have local muslim help. Muslims in India have always held a soft spot for pakistan (in private offcourse, they would never admit to that in public)