"Muslim fanatics" launch "reign of terror" in top-security British prison

"The fanatics are forcing fellow inmates to convert to Islam or face punishment beatings."
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"One man who stood up to the thugs was branded with a lump of hot metal, according to a prison source."
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"Some Al Qaeda supporters have set up a kangaroo court, sitting in judgment on prisoners and ordering punishments, the source said."

From the article.

Is anyone surprised by this? Incredible. Just like in their home countries! They're getting in valuable practice time, so that the day when they are released they can hit the ground running in establishing this wonderful system in Britain.

"Brian Caton, general secretary of the Prison Officers’ Association, said: “We have been calling for the Muslim leaders to be dispersed to other jails. The service must step in to break up this gang culture with immediate effect.”

Islam=Gang culture...sounds about right to me..

I suppose it's too much to hope for that these pious muslim prisoners will demand to be punished according to Sharia law?

I almost feel sorry for the British... but really, I don't. They have to blame themselves for their multicultural aspirations.

The worst part is that the politicians know the situation but ignore it. They should be prosecuted and should serve their sentence at... Whitmoor Prison.

Britain once had penal colonies like Australia where the most hardened criminals were sent. Time to resurrect that concept, but with Australia being substituted by some Islamic islands - maybe Maldives (reconquer it), Comoros, or Socotra (Yemen), or some such place.

Another option - leave the British Isles (sans Ireland) to the Mohammedans, and let all Infidel Brits move to some other place - Falklands, British Virgin Islands, et al.

SwedishWiking, I'm not sure how much less dhimmified Sweden is. Malmo in particular seems to have gone downhill rapidly.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBpVAj4ILM

And wasn't there that government minister who said Swedes must be nice to muslims, so muslims will be nice to Swedes when they are in the majority?

I'm certainly not point scoring here, as both our countries seem to have problems.

Regards.

Sending them to other jails that are equally unprepared will only increase the problem because they'll just start again in the new locations. There's only three options really, and the liberal useful idiots will hate all of them: deport those with foreign nationalities, solitary confinement, or the death penalty.

Don't forget, pious Muslims have long used prisons as recruiting grounds based on the Koran's twisted version of the Joseph, who they claim used his time in prison to convert people to Islam.

Exactly. They should not have time be pulling this crap. They should be doing hard labor 18 hours a day. Period. And if they still can't behave themselves they should get solitary confinement. This is what happens when penal systems are easy on hardened criminals, when they don't isolate them, and when they hire imams as champlains. There should never be an Islamic chaplain in any prison nor should there be a Koran, halal food, or any concession to Muslims. Period.

Roy Masters is politically conservative so dig it baby!--->>> http://www.fhu.com/ Some good audio/video on his site

Roy Masters and Gurdjieff have the best perspective on Islam. They say all religions are hypnotic. Masters says just about all people are in a trance. The main factors that produce your trance is sin so study the seven deadly sins and if you are slothful or a glutton then figure out how to stop this

Masters is Christian so maybe he says it's done through Jesus

Some religions are beneficial hypnosis but I say Islam is a harmful trance to be in. Slave to Allah my ass!

I am not an atheist if that helps

Roy Masters says people are asleep and so did Gurdjieff. So break out of your sin induced trance

"The crisis at Whitemoor jail in Cambridgeshire has led to calls by staff for the 100 Muslim inmates there to be dispersed to other prisons round the country."

Gee, Sherlock ... do ya really think this will stop if you, say, send them out on the equivalent of Muslim mission trips to other prisons?

What crack are these bozos on? I am so glad I don't live in Britain.

Since there is "no compulsion in religion" they must all be misunderstanders of Islam, no?

Here's more on the subject from Live Magazine's 19 October issue on the increase of the Muslim population at Her Majesty's Prison Whitemoor. (Live Magazine is an insert in the Mail) In March 2006 there were 71. In March 2008 there were 150. Currently 35% of the inmates are Muslim (with 11% being the national average). 39 inmates converted to Islam while in Whitemoor.

One white prisoner told the reporter, David Rose, that "In Long Lartin [a prison in Worcestershire] I've seen them throwing pots of hot ghee over two black boys who wouldn't turn Muslim. The violence here isn't so bad. But if you're not one of them, they shun you."

Another prisoner, a[n] African Muslim, said he was stabbed by Muslims who he tried to show from 'The Book' had been brainwashed into extremism. .................

This last bit is especially instructive in showing how these Jihadists regard "moderate Muslims".

Tziona and Lori B

I agree. Dispersing them to other prisons is only creating bigger problems everywhere, like a cancer metastisizing. They should all be concentrated in one prison, where they can beat on each other. It should be located somewhere isolated, preferably the Shetlands or Orkneys. They should be held to strict observance of Ramadan; hence the islands where the days are nice and long during summer Ramadans. Likewise, let them benefit from Islamic medical practice --a glass of camel urine for whatever ails them.

Or maybe all the western countries could get Russia to re-open the Kolyma gold field penal colonies, and ship them all there. In Kolyma, the life expectancy of a new arrival was 6 months.

Moving the prisioners at our facility at Guantanamo into our regular prison system will probably obtain similiar results as this. This is why we built it in the first place.

What's needed is an island penal colony, like the French had with Devil's Island, so no escape is possible and any attempt to escape would mean certain death. I would recommend someplace cold, such as one of the smaller Orkneys, north of Scotland, or an isolated location on Svalbard. In the U.S. there are numerous possible sites in the Aleutians. In the South Atlantic the South Georgia or South Sandwich Islands offer several possibilites.

So those 100 will inturn bring the jihad to other prisons and the cycle is complete.

Solitary confinement/lockdown is the solution for muslims in prison. Stay just withing the crule and unusual punishment laws (or the British equivilent).

Sooner or later the Brits will either get tough or capitulate. Lets's hope its the former.

Wait, I thought the Koran said that there's "no coercion in religion". So these miscreants aren't real Muslims then, they're fake wannabees.
The solution is for the various EU entities to set up states for the self-determination of their Muslim citizens, or their non-Muslim citizens, or whatever is most convenient. There could be Anglostine, for the non-Muslms in Britain, and Frankenstine, for the French Muslims, and Beerstine in Germany for the native tipplers etc.

Once released, the new converts can spawn new areas to carve out for jihad.

"What's needed is an island penal colony, like the French had with Devil's Island..."

How about Antarctica? That should be large enough to fit all the non-"moderate" Muslims of the world... They won't feel so offended by the penguins in burkas.

SwedishWiking

Pretty harsh comments from someone who hails from a country whose military pulled out of joint military exercises in Sardinia a couple of years ago, because Israel were involved.

Well I DO have sympathy for ALL my fellow Europeans and my American brothers and sisters, who are facing encroaching Sharia and Muslim Supremacism - with the full permission and active cooperation of their mainstream political élites.

The fact that we British have a grave problem with Islam (as do you in Sweden) is not, in the main, the doing of the majority of our respective peoples. Perhaps you should take that thought away and reflect a little?

test

Local Tory MP Malcolm Moss said: “They are a law unto themselves.....”

That pretty much says it all, doesn't it?

Muslim fanatics - when are they NOT?

"It would help to recognize this situation as much more than a matter of "gang culture."

What can he mean? Must be some sort of Islamaphobe

Some of the people in Britain, who were vociferous in their condemnation of Gitmo, maybe thinking it isnt such a bad idea after all for Muslim Jihadis.

Infidel Pride

I think Somalia or Afghanistan is a good place to dump Muslim Jihadis. That way they can try to build a proper sharia nation, while trying to keep below the predator's radar.

We had a similar problem here in Australia with the detention centres for "asylum seekers". the Muslims bullied the Christians. They were demanding to be let in here to live yet did not even bother to be on good behaviour while their cases were being assessed, and even that at our expense (lawyers' fees).
The boats of Muslim "asylum seekers" have started to reappear, now we have a Labour government. But now they are called "migrants", not "asylum seekers". Presumably their legal acceptance is a fait accompli.

Posted by: ebonystone -- In Kolyma, the life expectancy of a new arrival was 6 months.

As much as that?

"They won't feel so offended by the penguins in burkas."
Posted by: DenverRodeo

LOL. And all along I thought those were niqabs!

OK, back to what passes for reality these days. Neither Britain nor the EU is going to build any "Devil's Island" style facilities any time soon--it just wouldn't be politically correct.

In fact, the Obama administration will almost certainly be closing the U.S.'s Guantanamo Bay prison shortly. A few people--much belatedly--are finally starting to nervously ask just where it is these prisoners will end up.

Here's an article from Reuters from November 10th with an idea:

"Shut Guantanamo on Day One, Obama urged"

"MIAMI, Nov 10 (Reuters) - Five human rights groups urged European governments on Monday to accept Guantanamo prisoners who cannot be sent home for fear of persecution..."
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That's right--Europe, including Great Britain, no doubt, will now be asked to take in Jihadists who were plucked right off the battlefield. I'm sure they'll all make excellent new citizens of the nations that will extend them sanctuary...

Ah, me. Now we're drifted away from reality, again. Such an easy thing to have happen these days...

We in the west are completely outclassed by islam in any field concerning warfare. If the situation were reversed they would simply start executing the ringleaders until the problem stopped and it would stop. I hope it's not too late before we wake up and realize that there aren't any soft solutions when dealing with people of this mindset. It may take quite a long time if Israel is any example seeing as a large portion of their population still;-STILL thinks they can be negotiated with seriously. Look what it took to defeat the relatively very civilized nations of Japan and Germany. Our weakness before them is appallingly transparent as they proceed with a mindset of eventual victory over us.

We are only out clessed in two ways and both are easily fixable by us thats western liberal politicians and our news media not reporting whats truly happening.

What's needed is an island penal colony, like the French had with Devil's Island, so no escape is possible and any attempt to escape would mean certain death. I would recommend someplace cold, such as one of the smaller Orkneys, north of Scotland, or an isolated location on Svalbard. In the U.S. there are numerous possible sites in the Aleutians. In the South Atlantic the South Georgia or South Sandwich Islands offer several possibilites.

I like this idea. Provided the only thing to eat is wild pigs.

If you think our problems are easily fixable, I'm afraid your reasoning is completely broken.

Okay, Devil's Island isn't in the cards but why is there any thought of sending these people to other prisons. Aren't you only exposing more people? Why aren't Muslims held in isolation? Given this behavior, why are they allowed to mingle with other prisoners? Put them in their own ward/section and keep them there.

Another option - leave the British Isles (sans Ireland) to the Mohammedans, and let all Infidel Brits move to some other place - Falklands, British Virgin Islands, et al.

Posted by: Infidel Pride

You weren't serious, were you? If anyone is to leave the Isles, let it be the Mohammedans. The Brits were there first. There are fifty-seven countries for them to choose from.

DP111:

Somalia is an excellent place for the repatriation of unwanted Musulmaniacs. We should confiscate some Sowdi oiltankers, revert them into prison ships and let the Somali pirates capture them with all these beautifully hijabbed breeders and bearded men.

Then their Muslim brothers could bail them out. Nice one!

sheik yer'mami

The great thing about Somalia, is that there is no state, therefore no immigration controls. We can "rendition" Musulmaniacs(I like that) to Somalia, and thats it. Deny everything afterwards.

I actually don't see what's wrong with Devil's Island. We have Rikers. Same thing. Reopen Alcatraz. Or put them in one of our many, many secret prisons, shipped off by Black Ops of course that it never actually happened, since people who don't technically exist will have shipped them off to places which technically don't exist. Most of these people should lose their citizenship anyway, so best to just remove them from the country. Maybe start a little war if we have to in order to justify their 'internment.'

jdamn,
Remember "Escape from Alcatraz"? What would happen to Muslims if THEY were put in The Hole for six months straight?
Misbehave and your work privileges are taken away. You spend twenty-plus hours a day alone in your cell. The guards who inspect your cell on a random basis aren't likely to worry about how they touch the koran.
No beards allowed. All facial hair cut every day.
Those were the days.
Then the reform movement sprang up. Alcatraz was closed.

Devils Island?, dream on. The most aggressive of the western nations (USA) can't even keep non-uniformed enemy combatants at Club-Gitmo without fifth column outraged leftists eventually getting their way. The chances of New Zanzibar (Great Britian) dealing with this problem in a sane way is nil.

I was thinking more along the lines of "Murder in the First," hangng them upside down in solitary all day. That kind of thing.

I was thinking more along the lines of "Murder in the First," hangng them upside down in solitary all day. That kind of thing.

SwedishWiking wrote:

I almost feel sorry for the British... but really, I don't. They have to blame themselves for their multicultural aspirations.

You really need to educate yourself a bit better next time if you're going to make ignorant, sweeping comments like above.
Have you any understanding at all about what's actually going on in the UK?
Have you ever heard of Political correctness? Have you ever heard of such Associations as Liberty? Did you know that Tony Blair's wife was a Human Right's Lawyer? Has it even dawned upon you that the British people never were asked if they could have uncontrolled immigration and multiculturalism forced upon them? Do you not realise that there are many people who voted for NuLabour that have turned their backs on them for destroying the UK and of course the governments stance on Islam? Take a look at some of Pat Condell's videos if you'd like.
Did you know that only 27 million people voted in the UK, out of a total population of around 60 million(70 million unnoficially)? Out of that 27 million, 9.5million voted for NuLabour and you can bet your bottom dollar that all the 4 million or so Muslims in the UK voted for them. They won with over 35% of the overall vote with the Conservatives taking 32.3%. It's a joke.

NuLabour have sold out the UK to Islam and Europe while making their own personal fortunes. Blair is estimated to have made 6 times more in over a year, since being removed from the NuLabour Party in 2007, than what he earned in his 10 years in office as Prime Minister. He is making a killing on the Speech Circuit in the USA as well as being a teacher in Harvard to I believe. Look at the other Fat Cats as well in NuLabour - the X deputy John "two jags" Prescott as well as the now Lord Mandelson.

NuLabour care only for themselves and their own bank accounts and have successfully introduced laws to protect them and to punish the British people should they catch on to their plans for the destruction of the UK.
You know nothing of the situation in the UK SwedishWiking and it really annoys me to see posts like yours that are derogatory people like me, who are trapped in Kafka/Orwell Hell, knowing too well what's happening and powerless to do anything about it. I could be prosecuted for writing on this website because of my anger at Islamisation in the UK. The police could do me for inciting religious and racial hatred, the law NuLabour brought into effect in 2005 after failing in 2001. You just don't get it do you? The people in the UK are trapped in a Police state where Orwell's thought Crime of 1984 is very real. Understand the situation, before speaking as you do as your ignorance will anger many.

Richard

Christmas approaches (with Hanukkah preceding it).

One could put up Hanukkah lights. Get hold of a Catholic Bible which has the OT apocrypha, and read the Book of the Maccabees, and play Handel's Judas Maccabeus with the sound turned up. Buy 'The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism' and give it to the nearest rabbi as a present, with a discreet covering note to the effect that you think this may help him to understand the problems his people are having with the Mohammedans both in the UK and in the Middle East.

Surely private persons can put up Christmas lights, too, and a Christmas Tree (with nativity scene under it) fully decorated in one's front window? Here in Australia in some suburbs people do amazing stuff with Christmas lights and there's a sort of ritual of walking or driving around the neighbourhood checking out what everyone else has done.

And would it be possible for resistance-minded Britons to - for example - form a large group and go Christmas carolling? Pick out the really old, traditional ones. Do the Salvation Army bands play in public places, like they do here?

Or a group could go wassailing?

I know that here in Australia we still do things like 'carols by candlelight'. Some years ago the church I then attended, in a major city, got together a scratch choir and went carolling round the neighbourhood - in fact, from pub to pub...The church I'm currently attending, has sometimes taken a small Christmas choir round the local hospital, singing a selection of carols in designated locations (the hospital tells them where...those wards where people are likely to appreciate a cheerful morale-booster).

Find out whether the local parish church is holding a nativity play or carols night and go along to boost the numbers and the noise. Get Spencer's 'Religion of Peace: Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn't', or any one of Canon Sookhdeo's books, and give it as a present to the rector/ vicar/ priest/ parson.

A suggestion - British jihadwatchers, Christian or not, who live within reasonable distance of St Paul's in London might consider starting to plan how they will get to one or more of the Christmas services there. Pack the place out and sing till the dome starts to rattle!