"The call of Jihad was loud and open"

A Misunderstander of Islam expresses his misunderstanding of jihad in his will. He died of burns after trying to mount a jihad terror attack against the Glasgow airport.

"Airport blast man 'left a will,'" from the BBC, November 6:

A man who died of burns following an attack at Glasgow airport left a will in which he warned of "hitting at the devil's place", a court has heard.

Woolwich Crown Court was told Kafeel Ahmed, 28, e-mailed a document to his brother Sameel to be read by his family in the event of his death.

Dr Mohammed Asha, 28, and Dr Bilal Abdulla, 29, deny conspiracy to murder.

The pair also deny charges of causing explosions relating to the alleged attempted car bombing in 2007....

Mr Ahmed died of extensive burns after the airport attack.

The jury heard that Mr Ahmed had sent a text message to his brother Sameel before the airport attack.

This directed Sameel to an e-mail account in which there were two messages.

One contained instructions to his brother, asking him to lie to the police about his whereabouts, suggesting that his brother use a story that he was in Iceland studying global warming.

There was a will to family members, details of which were read out in court.

'Sacrifice' pledge

In the document Kafeel wrote "me and some brothers are getting an opportunity to hit the devil's place to the core, and this is what we tried with the help of Allah".

He thanked his father for his strict upbringing, and said: "The call of Jihad was loud and open."

He wrote to his mother: "Someone has to do something, why someone else, why not your son. So be generous and sacrifice your son."...

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Ick.

What a distasteful "religion".

I have no respect for Islam, and I don't have to.

I wonder how many "devil" patients these muslim Doctors attended to in their time? Smiling to your face and cursing you in their heart. Gee doc, how does it look? Am I gonna make it? Sure you will Mr. Kuffar, I will do everything in my power see you get the "appropriate" care.

......"he was in Iceland studying global warming."
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Freudian slip of tongue??...
He ended in cuckoo's-land practising hell's inferno !

".....Someone has to do something, ....?"
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Yes! go ahead and may Allah bless them all with :-

MANY HAPPY RETURNS !

A man who died of burns following an attack at Glasgow airport left a will in which he warned of "hitting at the devil's place", a court has heard.
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Hey, spending time in airports is not my favorite thing, but calling them "the devil's place" might be going a bit far...sarc/off

more:

He wrote to his mother: "Someone has to do something, why someone else, why not your son. So be generous and sacrifice your son."...
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"Someone has to do something"...

Yes--how could being a doctor and healing the sick possibly do anything to fulfill Allah's plan? So much better to blow up an airport full of the "filthy Kuffr".

"So be generous and sacrifice your son"...

Doesn't sound like Mom had much say in the matter. One has to wonder, though...is this woman horrified by her son's actions, and sickened by his pointless death--or is she proud of him, and only wishes he had taken out a few Infidels on his way to Paradise?

I wonder what his family truly think of his actions? His friends, Muslim colleagues at work? The muslim community? Has no one asked these questions? Is it considered "racist" to ask these questions? What are the British media doing? The Panorama producers seem to be the ones with any guts to actually be filming undercover in mosques and asking these questions, yet they were investigated by the British police for "hate crimes".

Cultural Marxism at work.

Oh come on now! Anyone else see the irony in this?

He wanted to have his brother lie for him saying he was studying Global Warming - then died of bruns as a result of the attack... HAHAH! Attacking the devils place at its core? Hahahah!

I guess he had to know how hot it was before visiting it :) ROFL What an as-swiii-pe.

"the devil's place to the core"

Jihadis, all of us can agree that sometimes the baggage handlers at the airport can remind us of Satan's little imps, but really..........why bomb an airport?

If you really want to get at the devil, it seems to me that you are going to have to starting digging.

Mr Mikail

Don't you think you need to tell your coreligionists that? There are far too many who "misunderstand". You can start by visiting some mainstream Islamic boards like this one:

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18

leon

I think their families and muslim community celebrate them a martyrs but our MSM play that down. Yes it is racist to ask these questions and publishing the "wrong" answers will probably get you jailed for incitement to racial or religious hatred.

Also it is only a detail but I think the undercover mosques programme went out on Channel 4 the BBC are usually prize dimmi's.

Bearing in mind the thread earlier today telling us that the trial of the last lot of potential martyrs cost £5 million ($10 million) anyone like to guess what this trial will cost? I would also like to know the names of the lawyers are who are getting it.

Axel Foley

Thanks for the link this is the first miss-understander I read. (edited)

"Aafia Siddiqui -- now faces federal charges of attempted murder and assault of a U.S. officer and U.S. employees, federal authorities said.

The 36-year-old Siddiqui is an American-educated neuroscientist and a suspected al Qaeda operative. If convicted, she faces a maximum of 20 years on each charge.

Since 2003, Siddiqui's whereabouts have been the source of much speculation. According to Amnesty International, Siddiqui and her three small children were reported apprehended in Karachi, Pakistan, in March 2003 after the FBI issued at alert requesting information about her location earlier that month"

Yet another deprived and underprivileged muslim?

Benson - This is a taquiyya-free zone.

Charlotte, North Carolina -

What is your response to this headline? Hmm.

....one more reason to BASH ISLAM!!

Benson, just out of curiosity, who let you off the funny farm?

If the USA is not an imperialistic tyrant, that controls and dominates overs through intimidation and straight up slaughter then why does the USA have military bases throughout the world, war ships in all the oceans and nukes pointed at every major city in the world?

In the main, because of idiots like you.

Can I assume your some leftist dweeb, attending some stateside bastion of bastardized thought that used to be a university? If your not, and you really are an Islamic mujoblowhardadeen, grab a ham sandwich, look up, and enjoy.

"....to hit the devil's place to the core"

Wow, he really missed the core-target, now didn't he? If hitting the devil's place to the core was his objective, then he set fire to the wrong thing. Boy, allah sure had him duped.

I wonder what his family truly think of his actions? His friends, Muslim colleagues at work? The muslim community? (from above)

Not to mention his patients....

"He thanked his father for his strict upbringing, and said: "The call of Jihad was loud and open."

Looks like his father misunderstood Islam, too!

Actually, his father was a very devout Muslim doing exactly what his Qur'an taught him to do, which he then passed along to his son, also a devout Muslim.

Posted by: Abdullah Mikail at November 6, 2008 11:53 AM


Abby continues to argue from an unsupported and losing position. He will exhaust all avenues to try to convince a single person here that Islam has nothing to do with these self-professed jihadists and their words and actions.

The sheer magnitude in the number of examples of "misunderstanders" of Islam proves the disassociation as illogical on its face. That the self-professed jihadists generally "misundertand" in a similar fashion yet are disingenuinely painted as heretics with no association to doctrinal Islam, is insulting to the most basic sentient mind.

No matter how many times Abby repeats this tired, repetitive mantra, it never gets an inch closer to being true.

Were it not for the USA, then where would the free world be? Dominated by the tyrants of Islam, who only want to control and dominate others through intimidation and slaughter. That is why the USA has military bases throughout the world, and war ships across the free world. The USA is a defender of freedom, who is fighting against the terrorist and Islamic controls; the same terrorists who wish to control the world by "the sword", and who accuses others of doing what it has and continues to do, spread terrorism and hate, while hiding under the facade of righteousness and goodliness.

I love America!

Posted by: Benson

Benson

If what you say is true, then why don,t we see hundreds of thousands of moslems world wide goning berserk on the streets burning down embassies and killing nuns, because what you claim is far worse than a few cartoons

I notice you do not give any creditable links, and if you where so concerned, why haven't you a blog or site, so as to expose these terrible things you claim

America and Americans have done quite a lot of shit, but it has been exposed, and most of the perpetrators have been dealt with and punished. Not only that, where islam has been involved, it has been discussed on this site, if you care to look.

Benson - Consider


1. My middle aged neighbours who after an argument with students from an Islamic school had the students descend on them one dark night and smash every window in their house. Note this was a 99.9% white area.
2. My colleague who arrived in work in an agitated state because his wife came home hysterical from Saturday shopping after being caught up in a muslim “anti-racist” riot. This was his second encounter with Islamic enrichment, a relative having beaten up for being white a year before. We were dishing out 7 different handouts to enrich the lives of a 98% muslim area at the time. The fact that entire families lived in Pakistan for a good part of each year on our Social Security not withstanding.
3. The man with years of satisfactory work who was fired because a muslim “colleague” overheard him say to a newcomer “You do not want to get a house there, there’s trouble between the blacks and the Paki’s”.
4. The last white woman in her street 80 years old, who had her windows smashed 3 times to shouts of “F*** off out of our street you white bitch and sell us your house!”
5. The quiet middle-aged people, white and black being harassed out of their homes because “our Asian citizens" wanted them for their families. Note the “White trash and hard men” they left alone.
6. The muslim who spoke so little English that he submitted his calculations for his profits from a petrol station franchise as proof he was unemployed and had no income. They were so terrified of being accused of racism they just sent it back and asked for the correct form.
7. The three teenagers taken into a muslim area by a taxi driver – probably to extort money – who were “hunted like frightened animals”. One escaped, one to their credit was sheltered by a muslim family but the third was left unconscious in the street for 20 minutes before an ambulance came and robbed while he lay dying.
8. The police chief who following demands from the “muslim community” was “retired” for publicly saying “Whites are being beaten so badly and so frequently it is only a matter of time before one of them is killed” It was – see note 7.
9. Paying an “unemployed and deprived” muslim £20,000 to improve the safe house he was using to bring in illegal immigrants and making a good living from it. Passed without comment because they were terrified of being accused of racism

Just because the Neo-con controlled media fails to acknowledge these crimes, does not mean they have, and do, not occur. Only the barest details of some of these cases were reported because if they were the editors would receive a visit from the “Community relations council”

I could of course talk about,

A. The 60% increase in rape in Norway by “Men of North African origin who hold uncovered women in low esteem”.
B. The fact that muslims are 4% of Denmark’s population but commit 80% of the rapes.
C. Going further a field the gang raped Australian girls abandoned by feminists who had to endure the relatives of their torturers shouting to the court – in Arabic – “It is no crime to f*** a white slut.”
D. There are also the unconfirmed reports that some of the women (And small girls?) at the Beslan School siege were gang raped by your holy warriors and the whole proceedings put on the internet.

But I shall not talk about these matters A - D because unlike the 9 points first set down I have not encountered the victims personally.

What I am saying Benson is, CHEER UP, being a muslim in the land of the kuffur is not all bad.

Posted by Abdullah Mikail:
Take the ten thousand "terrorist attacks" lauded by this site and lump in every "terrorist attack" noted by every single site like this one and just add them all up.

The resultant is called "Statistically Insignificant"...that is what it is...in no way can it be related to the whole...and these are the people whom you are quoting as you squeal

Unfortunately, the number of muslims verbally and physically opposing these attacks is even less statistically significant.

If the attacks were random criminal acts, motivated by individual greed or stupidity, I would have more of an inclination to take your argument seriously. The islamic fascists, regardless of where they operate, have expressed common purposes and methods that are always coordinated through ideology and sometimes through direct communication: intimidate Infidels, elevate muslims, and spread islamic religious intolerance. Organized criminal gang activity is always a greater threat to society than the individual criminals.

Change is often implemented by a "Statistically Insignificant" number of people, and then forced on the larger population, until hell breaks loose. No, Abdullah, it is you who doesn't get it. Pull your head out.

Abdullah Mikail

Strange - to detail just one point,

Meeting face to face innocent people whose home has been attacked and having to pay for the damage.

Hearing their testimony and that of 2 independent witnesses that the attackers were "Asians" and identified.

Being told by a frightened policeman that despite this the attackers could not possibly be "Asians".

I would have thought not believing or resenting that would qualify me as a fool or an idiot.

Abdullah Mikail wrote:

Fred,

You are a shining example of a bigot.
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Committing these acts of barbarity is fine, but pointing them out is bigotry. Just glad we're clear on where you stand.

Benson, you make a lot of good points, but what you fail to understand is that Islam is ALSO a form of imperialism.

Islam is Arabic imperialism which people from all over the world are starting to fight against.

Why does apostacy warrant the death penalty in Islam? Please answer me that if you think that Islam is harmless.

"Take the ten thousand "terrorist attacks" lauded by this site and lump in every "terrorist attack" noted by every single site like this one and just add them all up."

Posted by: Abdullah Mikail at November 6, 2008 2:52 PM

Now, take the 10,000 + terrorist attacks by the misunderstanders of Christianity and compare them to the global Christian population of over 3 billion and.....oh wait, there are no 10,000 + Christian terrorist attacks. Scratch that argument.

OK, so when the (insert inflated number for the global Muslim population here) billion + Muslims are compared to the 10,000 + terrorist attacks *cough* since 9/11/2001 only *cough* and compare them to the global number of Muslims. the number is inconsequential, simply a "tiny minority of extremists", even though Dalia Mogahed has polled over 13% global "misunderstanders" of Islam as extremists.

Now think of around 200 million plus "misunderstanders" of Islam worldwide based on that survey and the number doesn't seem so quaint anymore, especially since the "misunderstanders" are not discernable from the pious, peaceful strict adherents to the "Religion of Peace".

Which is it Abby, these "statistical insignificants", "misunderstanders" of Islam or Islamic "extremists"?

Islam defies all logic. Adherents and apologists alike are also required to defy logic in order to deceive.

You Abby, are the most shining example of that, and an obvious fool to believe otherwise.

Benson

When was the last time an american put a bomb into a disco

I personally knew 10 muslims who where blown to pieces by muslims

Within the next few days, three of these islamic murderers will get three bullets to their hearts.

Ironically it will be muslims that pull the triggers.

ABDULLAH: "Take the ten thousand "terrorist attacks" lauded by this site and lump in every "terrorist attack" noted by every single site like this one and just add them all up.

"The resultant is called "Statistically Insignificant"...that is what it is...in no way can it be related to the whole...and these are the people whom you are quoting as you squeal"

RESPONSE: People, did you get that. The victims of Islamic terrorism since 9-11 has totaled hundreds of thousands. And here is our resident Muslim doing his Stalin imitation...

"One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic."

Fred, you MUST continue posting details of these crimes at Jihadwatch.

Please keep posting them at Jihadwatch, whenever you come across any.

If fact, maybe Robert could have another place here where crimes against non-muslims is being committed by muslims.

You are a shining example of a bigot. posted above

Why does posting about what the crimes Muslim people are doing make him a bigot?? If I posted about crimes that white people did does that make me bigoted against whites??

Unbelievable.

O.T. Excuse me people. This "Benson" guy is just plain old fashioned nasty!
Looks like a wee boy who haunts jihadi sites and laps up their stitched together propaganda-and has a nasty mouth to boot.

Abdullah or "Abe the ersatz American Arab" as I prefer to think of him can be amusing with his lopsided arguments and his obsession with getting one over on Mr Spencer.
especially with the alcohol thing.

ButI really think "Benson" should be banned.

A. The 60% increase in rape in Norway by “Men of North African origin who hold uncovered women in low esteem”.
B. The fact that muslims are 4% of Denmark’s population but commit 80% of the rapes.

FACT

C. Going further a field the gang raped Australian girls abandoned by feminists who had to endure the relatives of their torturers shouting to the court – in Arabic – “It is no crime to f*** a white slut.”

FACT


D. There are also the unconfirmed reports that some of the women (And small girls?) at the Beslan School siege were gang raped by your holy warriors and the whole proceedings put on the internet.

FACT

Abdullah, maybe you can email me, we can arrange a little meet up so i can stuff your head further up your ass.

Abdullah, Benson

Answer me this. Why are Muslim Pakistanis living in London, well paid as doctors, schooled through some of the best universities in the World, bombing and plotting to kill hundreds of innocent men women and children in their adopted British nation? Innocent people who have bent over backwards in giving a home to these immigrants.

Poor Abdullard - as a member of Islam - what a bigot! The Jew/Christian Hating Bigot!

What a sick turd, Abdullard.

Crap and Lies
Abdullah, Slave to a pagan moon god that doesn't exist!

by Abdullah Mikail:
Our extremists are on “this” side of the fence, so it is easy to obfuscate and say they don’t exist.

1% of all American citizens are in prison…approximately 3,000,000 or so…does that mean we are a nation of thugs, rapists, drug dealers, criminals?

No.

If we assume there were 100,000 active participants, active Extremists Muslims engaged in terrorism and violence it is still only 0.000077% of the whole.

Compare 1.0% to 0.000077%...seems like “no comparison

You're absolutely correct; 1.0% to 0.000077% is “no comparison".... The United States is 1.0/0.000077 = 12987 times more likely to prosecute and punish civil criminal behavior than societies based on Islamic principles are.

AM stated this THREE TIMES: "our pet pariah Israel"

And you dare to accuse others of being a bigot, AM?

Bigot - Hater
Abdullah Mikail

Anyone who is Islamic is BY DEFINITION a BIGOT.

Read the racist/bigoted/hate-filled evil Koran.

Hate-Filled Abdullard and Hate-Filled Benson.

Haters! Racists! Bigots! Islamists Hate everyone not Islamic - it's in your "holy" book!

I think it's better to let Benson post. His ravings are very similar to a foolish young student I knew, who had taken this nonsense in at his university. He's a Jew. And I'd always thought the Jews were the smartest people in the world.

LOL - Abdullard, just one of the Brainwashed Billion by false prophet Warlord Mohamet.

Mass-Murderer evil satanic Mo.

Mohamet - False prophet.

Allah - a non-existent pagan moon god.

Islam - a Sham.

Muslims - Brainwashed.

Koran - a Hate/Mass-Murder manual

Hey, doin' good, Abdullah Slave! Brainwashed Fool!

Hey - lookit that member of the "religion of peace" up above! LOL!

Yeah - look at his insults to Fred and Ralph - HOW PEACEFUL! LOL!

Abdullah mimics Limbaugh...Rush is right 97.8% of the time...Abdullah is right 100% of the time. Or so he thinks.

But Allah has with held 98.9% of the truth which is why Mohammadans don't have much of it. Allah's book of lies has lots of facts but no truth.

This is true of quasi apostates who are right
10% of the time, and confused the rest of the time.

This is only relieved by full apostasy.

If quasi apostasy is left untreated it will result in severe constipation, followed by systematic toxicity and mental confusion.

So Abdullah, for your own sake...Go to faithfreedom.org, and ask Sina to save you from your quasi existence, before it becomes permanent...

It's not to late, most of it will wash off...

Poor Abdullah - feels so INFERIOR he has to embrace a "religion" that commands the mass-murder of everyone else!

INFERIORITY COMPLEX SLAVE ABDULLAH!

I feel Inferior
Abdullah, slave

Abdulla,

And then you’re ignorant enough to make a statement like you just did?

You set the problem up, and they're your numbers. Live with it.

Hey, beats me…I guess there’s no talking facts, logic, and reason to a door knob.

As I just discovered.

Good riddance
Ralph

champ,

"AM stated this THREE TIMES"

Sorry champ, it was the blog that "hiccupped" not I. I only intended to post it once.

pariah: one is not accepted by a social group, especially because he or she is not liked, respected or trusted.

Just because Israel has been supported by us as a matter of policy does not mean it is not a pariah...ask any of the plethora of countries in her vicinity they will agree: untrustworthy, unliked, disresepcted for a reason.

I support Israel's right to exist as a nation just as I do any other, that doesn't mean I have to like her or stomache her inhumanity.

Truth
Abdullah Mikail

Poor Abdullah - feels so INFERIOR he has to embrace a "religion" that commands the mass-murder of everyone else!

INFERIORITY COMPLEX SLAVE ABDULLAH!

I feel Inferior
Abdullah, slave

Pity the INHUMANITY OF MOHAMMEDANS AND ISLAM.

Savages.

You can post it three times and it is as invalid as the first.

..."you focus on the minutiae…and, yes, it is a violent fringe, but it is minutiae compared to the whole."

200 million global jihadists is minutiae to you, not to me or non-muslims. Your rationale about percentages is absurd and mortifying.

Assuming 4000 people killed in about three hours in NYC on 9/11. Now compare that to the 8 million plus population of NYC and we have a measly 0.0005 percent casualty rate. So what's the big deal? Statistically insignificant minutiae in your estimation, indeed.

Your obvious overlooking of "Christian terrorist acts" in comparison to Islamic terrorist acts since 9/11 which I pointed out is quite telling. I would ignore an uncomfortable truth for which there is no logical answer as well.

No, you chose to speak about prison inmate statistics instead. Your 1 percent and your claim that it does not make the US a country of thugs, but it certainly is not representative of a country with 3,000,000 innocent political prisoners either, so nice try. Statistics are a funny thing but Islam is altogether unaffected by statistics now isn't it?

But Abby, this has nothing to do with statistics really, now does it? It has to do with the whitewashing of Islam. It is always about that. When peressed you unwittingly admitted to "a violent fringe, but it is minutiae compared to the whole."

So is that your answer Abby? A "tiny minority of Islamic extremists" that due to their untold numbers we should not concern ourselves with or was it the "misunderstanders" label you like to parade around all the time here? It seems to me that you in you last comment support the former concept.

It is tough to keep the taqiyya straight, isn't it? That is the problem with Islam. There is only so much lipstick that one can put on that pig.

Abdullard - Slave to a sandstone idol!

What could be stupider than that?

Slave/Sandstone/Stupid - Got it, Abdullard?!

Wow Abdullah, here, we have been so lucky as to be joined by one of those misunderstanders of Islam, named 'Benson.' He loathes the West, and refers to our troops as terrorists and scum (I would think you would be especially offended by that considering you claim to have served.) And yet all you have to say about his hate filled loony rant is that "I personally thought Benson's post over the top, but at least it wasn't filled with bigotry." This is very telling. Here you have a perfect opportunity to explain to a misunderstander what a wonderful place the USA is and why he should love it just as much as you so obviously do, and why it was such a great honor for you to serve in this countries armed forces, and yet instead of doing so, you jump on Fred when he turns 'Benson's' argument around on him.
Abdullah, you can try to play the 'American as Apple Pie' act all day, but for anyone who is paying attention, it is quite easy to see where your allegiances lie.

I pity anyone who follows a Con Man False prophet Mass-Murderer Rapist Slave-Owner Paedophile Thief Polygamist.

And that's who Abdullard follows. Pity Abdullard, people, he's blind, deaf and dumb. With emphasis on dumb.

I support Israel's right to exist as a nation just as I do any other, that doesn't mean I have to like her or stomache her inhumanity.
Truth
Abdullah Mikail
Posted by: Abdullah Mikail

Well, I don't care for all this inhumanity either, but if I am going to lay blame, for the most severe of it, I know where to look, and it ain't Israel.

Name me a government who has not practiced inhumanity, either now, or in the past...

There maybe a few, but they did not last long, the maniac inhumanes got to them. Just like the maniac inhumanes of Islam are getting to innocent people today.

Does this mean that the govs of dar al-harb are innocent? No, but it does mean that in the interest of 'truth', you have to include Islam on the list of perpetrators of inhumanity...

Bigot Benson. Funny how the Bigot hasn't returned - just left an Islamic hate rant for us to enjoy.

awake,

When pressed? Trust me nothing you could ever say would "press me".

Any way, where have I ever denied there were Muslims who committed violence?

You are a liar if you say I did.

I noted their actions were not condoned in Islam, and they were acting as criminals for the most part when attacking innocent people, by standers, etc.

Those people fighting to defend their lands against occupation forces are not criminal if they fight according to what is just. When they commit crimes they are criminal.

A lot of things happen in a war zone and the surrounding areas...labelling them as "terrorist attacks" is just carte blanche propoganda.

And the “"misunderstanders" label” That’s Roberts little by moniker, not mine.

And yes, its tough to talk to an ignorant person, I admit. ..take you for instance, tell you a fact you call me a liar…then you spin up a pile of garbage and point at it, yeah, I gotta agree it’s garbage…it doesn’t mean anything about the whole…then you pull out of your little "Islamphobe tool kit" and choose the little insult buzz words... you really are nothing of any substance awake, really, just an annoying gad fly who can do nothing helpful in the real world.

There is an action and reaction for everything.

This world wide mess didn’t just open up over night it took a lot of planning from colonial powers as well as action to set up the paradigm we are all now suffering under economically militarily and soon to be politically here at home. ( At least we voted Conservative in Texas…I don’t know what happened to the rest of you losers.)

You really can’t discuss anything without falling into petty jabs, though, can you?

Oh well, I guess they are entertaining some time, right?

BTW it is a pariah.

Truth
Abdullah Mikail

Abdullah

You never answered my post

Why would innocent British civilians be targeted in an attack when the British have paid heavily in taxes and the destruction of their natural habitats to house, feed and educate mainly Muslim Pakistanis?

Surely if the Jihad was against the military imperialists those muslim doctors would've attacked military establishments and not a nightclub.

No, your jihad is against non muslims. You are an imperialistic bigot.

Now go and answer this post.

Name me a government who has not practiced inhumanity, either now, or in the past...

There may be a few, but they did not last long, --duh swami

swami, the inhumanity of Islam has lasted 1400 years too long, IMO.

Without Islam, the ME would still be Judeo-Christian. Wow, what a pleasant thought...

Bigot Benson. Funny how the Bigot hasn't returned - just left an Islamic hate rant for us to enjoy.
Posted by: darcy

There's a lot of that...Toss a grenade in the enemies camp and run...At least 'pit bull Abdullah' stays here and 'tries' to defend his weak points of view...

To you, Loser Slave:


Bravo/a Islamophobia! Well-deserved! It's right and moral for people to hate Islam. Just as it's right and moral for people to hate Naziism and Fascism.

Bravo/a Islamophobia!

Hey Abdullah,

I thoroughly shattered your presentation on apostasy on the other thread.

No counter-argument?

Darcy...Without Islam, the ME would still be Judeo-Christian. Wow, what a pleasant thought...

Without Islam, I would be blowing the leaves off the lawn right now...Not a particularly pleasant thought... :)

"If a man leave his Islamic faith, kill him." --Mohammed

What's to argue?

Leon,

First let’s identify the projection bias:
“No, your jihad is against non muslims. You are an imperialistic bigot.”’
Now we’re past that…
“Why would innocent British civilians be targeted in an attack when the British have paid heavily in taxes and the destruction of their natural habitats to house, feed and educate mainly Muslim Pakistanis?”
Well, first there are criminals in every society.

Let’s spin it like this and see if you understand.
“Why would innocent American civilians be targeted in an attack when the Americans have paid heavily in taxes and the destruction of their natural habitats to house, feed and educate mainly Illegal Mexican Catholicss?”

“Why would innocent American civilians be targeted in an attack when the Americans have paid heavily in taxes and the destruction of their natural habitats to house, feed and educate mainly Black Christians?”

It’s just criminal behavior that’s all.
Oh, you think not? So you think it is a world wide tightly coordinated super secret effort to take over through jihad. Most criminals can barely tie their shoes. (now is where you bring up the well educated criminals as a reposte…)
Do you realize how stupid a person sounds when they say that?

Peace
Abdullah Mikail

Cornelius...Don't antagonize the poor guy...don't you know he's...sensitive...

"If a man leave his Islamic faith, kill him." --Mohammed

What's to argue?

Posted by: darcy at November 6, 2008 5:22 PM


I'm stupid
abdullah mikail

AM...It’s just criminal behavior that’s all...

Yeah but it is criminal behavior as demanded by Allah in his book and endorsed by Mohammad...

And now you know the 'rest' of the story...

Without Islam, I would be blowing the leaves off the lawn right now...Not a particularly pleasant thought... :)

Posted by: duh_swami at November 6, 2008 5:20 PM

LOL, swami. However, ANYTHING'S more pleasant than Islam, including Great White Sharks and Rabid Grizzly Bears. ANYTHING.

Hey Abdullah - Go live in an islamic crapistan, 'k?

Then you can be happy as all-get-out living among the savages, your people. Bon Voyage!

Abdullard's on his way to Yemen! Oh, joy!

Cornelius,

“I thoroughly shattered your presentation on apostasy on the other thread. “

Oh, really?

You mean you presented all five hadiths in Arabic, discussed them in reference to seventh century colloquial Arabic so that there were no mistranslations, and the specific situation in the stage of revelation of the Quran and how it related to the hadiths, and what the political and social situation was surrounding the Prophet at that time, and then you discussed the scene and the setting, the people who were involved, the questions that they asked before, and the action they took after, when each of the five hadiths you referenced were spoken of so that you would have relayed them in full context so as not to be misunderstood…and you did all that?

Woah, dude, in that case…you got me...I have to admit it.

Right…pushaw.

“No counter-argument?”

I forgot what post it was on…link me up and I’ll entertain you, okay?

Truth
Abdullah Mikail

Pariah Serving Inhumane Islam
Abdullah Mikail

(applies to you, AM, not Israel)

"If a man leave his Islamic faith, kill him." --Mohammed

What's to argue?

Posted by: darcy at November 6, 2008 5:22 PM


I'm stupid
abdullah mikail

Posted by: darcy at November 6, 2008 5:27 PM

I love how the Mohammedan convert ignores me! Which means I really get to the Barbarian.

Mohammed the FAKE prophet! Con Man! FAKE prophet!

Warlord Mass-Murderer of Jews and Christians Mohamet - PISS be upon him. Hog piss, in particular.

Posted by: Abdullah Mikail at November 6, 2008 5:13 PM

Lots of name-calling and not a sigle response to any of my direct points. Typical of a losing position in an argument.

It isn't too pleasant when someone takes your statistical argument and shoves it back down your throat as I did with the 9/11 statistics, now is it?

The entire foundation of your argument rings hollow for one simple reason. Even if Islam doesn't condone these actions as you say, it does not matter. (I personally don't believe it or you, one bit). What matters is that "misunderstanding" Muslims believe Islam condones it and even mandates it, and that fact alone validates this site.

Regarding my "Islamophobe tool kit" (I persnally liked that one), shouldn't you be more specific? If what you say is true, then I really don't have an irrational fear of Islam as the term describes, but rather a rational fear of Muslims who misunderstand Islam and deem it to mean the opposite of what you say it is, right?

We need a new term for that, methinks.

Anyway, Abby, since it becomes tedious arguing with a door knob, just answer the simple question as to why you are not correcting the Muslim community of the errors of their interpretation of Islam? Why waste your time here? Surely by cause and effect, once the pandemic misunderstanding of Islam ceases, Islamophobia, or the new term to accurately describe the rational fear of misunderstanding Muslims, will surely disappear as well, no?

Just think of those evil 19 9/11 Mass-Murderers roasting in hell along with Mohamet.

Just think of it, slave to a sandstone idol.

Take the ten thousand "terrorist attacks" lauded by this site and lump in every "terrorist attack" noted by every single site like this one and just add them all up.

The resultant is called "Statistically Insignificant"...that is what it is...in no way can it be related to the whole...and these are the people whom you are quoting as you squeal

Abdullah,

If ten thousand plus attacks are "statistically insignificant" then what are a few cartoons in Danish magazines?

What are a few panties on the head in Abu Ghraib?

No one was killed in either case.

What about the single "wedding party" in Afghanistan?

Why are Muslims allowed to go berserk because of pictures in a paper or statues in a church but non-Muslims are expected to treat blown-up airplanes and downed buildings as "statistically insignificant"?

Au revoir.

AM - everyone knows that these MISUNDERSTANDERS, as they're called, are not 'misunderstanders' at all, but they are the truly devout Muslims following after Muhammads example and the Qur'an.

I guess it's easier to call this group of Muslims 'misunderstanders' of Islam, because it can't be easy facing your own lukewarn and/or backsliden condition, now is it? I mean, if you were more on-fire for allah, then you would be joining these misunderstanders, too. Right?

PMK,

"Why are Muslims allowed to go berserk "

Gee it's so pontifical of you to give them permission like that.

No one is allowed to go "berzerk"...that's an intersting way to look at it.

So you think someone gave the blacks in Los Angeles "permission" to riot when Robney Kings assailants were let off scott free?

So you think someone gave the Philipino people "permission" in their popular uprising...you remember a decade or so ago? The one where their president was screaming for the army to attack, but the top General said, "It's the will of he people."

Vast social groups sometimes act in ways that are not normal under duress, and no one gives them permission to act that way...it just happens.

Truth
Abdullah Mikail

I mean, if you were more on-fire for allah, then you would be joining these misunderstanders, too. Right?

Posted by: champ at November 6, 2008 5:49 PM

Oh, he'd be re-locating to a Crapistan forthwith.

So, you see he's a total hypocrite, prefering to remain safe and sound in the USA where the Islamic Barbarians won't get him, and blogging on the Internet, which Infidels invented.

Abdullah,

"Ignorant and Free" is the thread...

I find it fascinating that you've critiqued my response without having read it.

Is this the way you always operate?

"Vast social groups sometimes act in ways that are not normal under duress"

I guess Muslims have been under duress for nearly 1400 years -- besides, these "vast social groups", as you call them, do not have it in WRITING or exampled by a prophet to go out and commit crimes. Only Islam provides such proof by giving "permission" to cause a scene or terrorize and murder through it's unholy written word, the Qur'an, and by it's prophet-of-doom, Muhammad.

Awake,
“Why waste your time here?”

Do you think your time is wasted here?

“Even if Islam doesn't condone these actions as you say, it does not matter.”

That is the bottom line. You stand up and say it is happening because Islam dictates it, but if that were the case there would be thousands and thousands of attacks per day.

And since you believe Muslims think “love death more than life” and “hate others more than they love their children” then there should be millions upon millions of hordes of Muslims spilling over borders, right? I mean they wouldn’t care about the guns! They’d go regardless….

Yeah, right. But lacking that, you are left with the reality that Islam does not condone or order that.

Even though I enjoy discussing things with you, I have a late clandestine meeting to go to…you know the type, planning, staging, coordination…lots to do…and we’re doing it in a Starbucks! Gotta love Seattle…

Peace
Abdullah Mikail

P.S. "Islamophobe tool kit" tm, glad you liked it.

From Abdullah:
It’s just criminal behavior that’s all.

No, it's not. It's organized, paramilitary violence.

Oh, you think not? So you think it is a world wide tightly coordinated super secret effort to take over through jihad.

Individual operations are "tightly coordinated" and secret if they are to have any chance of "success". Those that don't maintain secrecy run a significant risk of going to jail or to Allah. There has never been an attempt to make strategic goals secret, they've been publicized for 1400 years, and more documentation is added daily.

Do you realize how stupid a person sounds when they say that?

Do you realize how naïve or disingenuous a person sounds by denying it?

"Most criminals can barely tie their shoes"

I'm guessing naïve.

To PMK from Abdullah:
Vast social groups sometimes act in ways that are not normal under duress, and no one gives them permission to act that way...it just happens.

Something the muslim world would do well to keep in mind.

In my opinion, it would be hypocritical for us to ban Abdullah. We're all proponents of free-speech.
In spite of his lies and dissimulation, he has not been excessively rude or obscene.

I suggest we allow him to wage his one-man 'greater Jihad' here. We can engage him en mass....keep him busy, so to speak.

I guess Muslims have been under duress for nearly 1400 years -- besides, these "vast social groups," as you call them, do not have it in WRITING or exampled by a prophet to go out and commit crimes. Only Islam provides such proof by giving "permission" to cause a scene or terrorize and murder through it's unholy written word, the Qur'an, and by it's prophet-of-doom, Muhammad.

Posted by: champ at November 6, 2008 6:05 PM

Exactly.

But poor Dullard, he's like a one-celled organism - there's no getting through the protoplasm.

Abdullah Mikail

NOTE I have only used capitals because my IT skills do not yet stretch to forming paragraphs in another font. Any advice on this would be appreciated

"First, you provide nothing but hearsay, it comes across as opinion and not proof, then demonizing an ethnic or religious group with no proof, well, bigotry."

And to note a few more comments:

“Note this was a 99.9% white area.”

IT WAS THE NEXT AVENUE TO US, ABOUT 500M AWAY THEY WERE OUR NEIGHBOURS. ALL THE HOUSES NEARBY HEARD THE SCREAMS, THE POLICE CAME, COMMUNITY RELATIONS PAID FOR THE DAMAGE AND IT WAS HUSHED UP.

“, a relative having beaten up for being white a year before.”

WHEN HE HAD CALMED DOWN THAT MORNING HE WALKED ACROSS THE OFFICE TO ME, ARMS IN FRONT OF HIM PALMS UP IN SUPPLICATION AND WHISPERED "What can we do! What can we do! He whispered because it was a 75% muslim staff and a very small office. YOU REMEMBER THESE THINGS.

“– probably to extort money –“

I DID SAY PROBABLY, BECAUSE THE DETAILS WERE NEVER PRINTED BUT FROM THOSE THAT WERE, HE WAS OUT IN THE TOWN CENTRE. I DID SOME RESEARCH AND WHERE HE DIED WAS ABOUT 1km SOUTH AND COULD ONLY BE REACHED THROUGH A SINGLE UNDERPASS WHERE NO WHITE MAN DARE GO. HE LIVED ABOUT 2km TO THE NORTHWEST AND THEY HAD NO REASON TO GO IN ANY OTHER DIRECTION. THE VICTIMS AUNT POSTED ON THE WEB QUOTE "HE WAS TAKEN INTO THE AREA BY AN ASIAN TAXI DRIVER". WAS SHE A LYING BIGOT? I CAN PROBABLY FIND HER ADDRESS SO YOU CAN WRITE AND TELL HER PERSONALLY.

“A frightened policeman” really, Fred, aren’t you laying it on a bit thick?

ONE FRIDAY EVENING I WAS AT MY BROTHERS WHEN I GOT A CALL THAT A WINDOW HAD BEEN SMASHED IN A HOUSE I RENTED TO STUDENTS. I ARRIVED JUST BEFORE THE POLICE TO FIND THE TENANTS IN SHOCK. TWO NEIGHBOURS ONE OF WHOM - BEING A HARD CASE - HAD CHASED THEM SAID "IT WAS THE ASIAN LADS WHO HANG AROUND THE HALAL TAKEAWAY". KNOWING HOW SENSITIVE THESE THINGS ARE I DREW THE POLICEMEN TO ONE SIDE AND QUIETLY TOLD HIM THIS. HE PANICKED AND SAID "NO! NO! ITS THE WEATHER THEY ARE ALL COMING OUT OF THE PUBS ITS HAPPENING ALL OVER TOWN! and again "ITS THE WEATHER THEY ARE ALL COMING OUT OF THE PUBS ITS HAPPENING ALL OVER TOWN!" I UNDERSTOOD AND FELT SORRY FOR HIM BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS TUESDAY THE BBC RAN A PROGRAMME "THE SECRET POLICEMAN" ABOUT ONE OF THEIR REPORTERS WHO JOINED THE LOCAL FORCE SPECIFICALLY TO ROOT OUT RACISTS. IN 18 MONTHS HE GOT 11-14 TRAFFIC POLICE TO SAY THEY HAD TARGETED ASIAN DRIVERS. THERE WAS A TERRIBLE FUSS THE ASIANS ALL GOT APOLOGIES AND THEIR FINES BACK - THE POLICE WERE FIRED.

Oh, how could I have considered those to be bigoted comments?

And the point you were trying to make when #3 was brought up…EOE and harassment, just watch your mouth at work…it has nothing to do with the fact he was a Muslim “collegue”?

THE POINT WAS THAT HE DID NOT SAY "DIRTY PAKI" OR USE THE WORD IN ANY PEJORATIVE OR NEGATIVE SENSE. IT WAS A WORK BREAK AND AN ASIAN ON THE NEARBY TEAM OVERHEARD HIM AND COMPLAINED. HE WAS FIRED ON THE COMPANIES ZERO TOLERANCE WITH RACISM POLICY HIS PLEA THAT SAYING “You do not want to get a house there, there’s trouble between the blacks and the Paki’s”. WAS TRUE AND ONLY ADVICE TO A MAN MOVING INTO TOWN WAS NOT ACCEPTED.

Will that do for now? In Britain you have to get these things right and you may just get away with it. You can be jailed for making perfectly true statements about ANY minority that quote "Would be likely incite racial hatred" Truth is no defense and I can give an instance if required albeit from a member of a right wing party who got 12 months for a true statement in an election leaflet.

I YOUR HASTE TO SCREAM "BIGOT" YOU OBVIOUSLY MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT LINE OF MY POST. WHEN I POSTED,

"But I shall not talk about these matters A - D because unlike the 9 points first set down I have not encountered the victims personally."

I DAMN WELL MEANT IT - AND I CAN DETAIL THE OTHER SIX CASES IF YOU WISH - IF I DO GIVING APPROXIMATE DATES, ACTUAL PLACES AND DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE WOULD YOU THEN APOLOGIZE FOR CALLING ME A BIGOT?

Oh, how could I have considered those to be bigoted comments?

Because you do not know what you are talking about - I do.

LASTLY I DO NOT THINK MISTREATING ANYONE AS SET DOWN IN PART OF BENSONS POST IS RIGHT/PROPER/REASONABLE AND ONLY REGRET I DID NOT SAY SO AT THE TIME.

It was a long post I have calmed down did you sort of apologize?

How many people of a Nation or a Ideological cause serve in their armed military? I have never seen a case where the majority of the people were active in military ventures. Islamic apologists take this common fact and usually attempt to twist this into some kind of indication that Jihadists are disconnected from what the core beliefs of Islam are in relation to Muslims who are not overtly violent.

Another classic deflection is to shift the focus upon regional ethnic conflicts, in their struggle to gain control, as if the problem is only a political or cultural clash that have nothing to do with Islamic beliefs.

If we were to believe Islamic apologists, then Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, MILF in the Philippines, Laskar-e-Taiba in India, Jamaat al-Tawhid wa'l-Jihad in Iraq, Talaa'al-Fateh in Egypt [many, many more] its just mere coincidence they are Muslims are share the same broader goal of seeing Islam dominate the world.

Yeeeaaaaah-riiiiight.

The SNR here is getting entirely too low. Ban Abdullah and ban Benson, please.

[correction]

its just mere coincidence they are Muslims *and* share the same broader goal of seeing Islam dominate the world.

Every church in America should include prayers for the conversion of Muslims in their services. Given the stone-cold hearts that Muslims are raised to have, it's doubtful that bombs and guns can ever break through to them. In fact, they welcome guns and bombs as their path to salvation.
It'll take a far greater power than we possess to break through to those imprisoned minds and spirits.
Of course, in this politically correct world we live in, any suggestion that we should pray for for the conversion of Muslims, would be met with charges of intollerance and racism, and no church wants to be charged with that.

rational

I pray every Friday for the Defeat of the Jihad and for the Conversion of Muslims.

(Actually, I pray that daily, but on Fridays I put some more work into it - I sit down with a list of every Muslim-majority country, and every country that has a significant Muslim presence; I pray for the liberation of the Muslims from Islam, and for the encouragement and protection of all non-Muslim populations who are being oppressed and attacked and sabotaged by Muslims; I put in a special word for all apostates from Islam, everywhere, naming those whose names I know, that they may be protected and persevere; I put in a special word of intercession for people like Fr Zakaria Botros and all other witnesses and evangelists; and for the whistleblowers, such as Mr Spencer and Andrew Bostom and Bat Yeor and David Littman...it's getting to be quite a long list).

I have a list of all the mosques in my hometown and I pray for those who meet there. I pray for the exposure and utter failure of any and all jihad plots.

And yes: I have a prayer 'hit list' where I simply present to the LORD YHWH the names of evil people such as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Mahmoud Abbas and Ismail Haniyeh and Hassan Nasrallah and I cry out: 'DO SOMETHING!!'.

Then, on behalf of Israel and the Jews, I recite Psalm 83.

PS Atheists take note: none of this means that I am not doing anything else. Prayer is not a substitute for action: prayer tends to inform and galvanise action. And prayer, for me at least, wards off the paralysis of despair and fury that would otherwise prevent me from doing anything at all.

Shoutout to all Christians: Sunday 9 November is the day of prayer for the persecuted church. Even if your church is not officially taking part, you can do it on your own.

And when you do - make sure you devote a good chunk of your time to praying for those who suffer the oppression, the spiritual tyranny, of Islam...not just the Christians but all non-Muslims trapped within the Empire of Islam, or currently assailed by jihad.

revparadigm

good point.

I came late to the latest episode of The Abdullah Mikail Show.

Abdullah wrote way up at the beginning:

"In no way shape or form can one find justification for attacking innocent people at a non military installation that is engaged in nothing more than public transport."

I wonder how he feels about attacking guilty people at a non military installation that is engaged in nothing more than public transport? Does he support that?

If he says Yes, then I wonder how he defines "guilty"?

Then I wonder, is there any kind of "guilt" defined in a uniquely Islamic way that would be relevant to "attacking people at a non military installation that is engaged in nothing more than public transport"?

Abdullah Mikaboom

I used to be left wing, now I am right.
That means' your going to need facts if you want someone here to believe you. I know your only here to stir the pot and try to get someone to say something they will regret. Something you can take to CAIR. Your defence of Islam and jihad here will only hurt Islam. Why? Because more and more people are realizing that Islam protects
jihadists ,encourages jihadists,and pays some jihadists, thanks to terror supporters like you, more and more hate islam. When the Americans kill a terrorist, too many muslims say that it was a terrorist act to kill this terrorist, yet too many muslims would kill that same terrorist if he changed religions.

If we see four years of increasing terror attacks after Obama presents the olive branch, what kind of government do you think will occupy the White House? Even the left will be campaigning on how we can withstand a limited nuclear war.

PMK,

"Why are Muslims allowed to go berserk "

Gee it's so pontifical of you to give them permission like that.

No one is allowed to go "berzerk"...that's an intersting way to look at it.

So you think someone gave the blacks in Los Angeles "permission" to riot when Robney Kings assailants were let off scott free?

Abdullah,
How dumb can you get? It's not I that gives them permission. It's you and your fellow believers who are always ready to excuse what they do. YOU are the ones who make excuses for them.
No one gave blacks permission to riot. They burned up their own neighborhood and Rodney King's "assailants" were police officers in the line of duty. Those few minutes you saw on television didn't tell half of the story.
As a point of comparison: how many white people did you see riot when OJ was let off scotfree?
How many Americans rioted against American Muslims or against Muslim establishments anywhere in the US when three thousand people were murdered? The "crowd" in Pakistan and everywhere else that went berserk (I'm being kind - Islam IS a mental disorder) had not been injured by those cartoons, which had appeared months earlier and had already been forgotten.
Keep making excuses, if that makes you happy.
Adios!

No surprise seeing Abdullah Mick here. For anyone interested, he's the voice of the Ikhwan at Frontpage Magazine where he can always be counted on to hail Hezbollah and cheer the murder of Jews. Abdullah, you say that this savage "misunderstood" Islam. Hmm. Then how about the guy who stated that only "those who know nothing about Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war" and who said "I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim"? The guy who said that was Ayatollah Khomeini. Are you telling us that Khomeini misunderstood Islam and had never read the Quran? Or was Khomeini just another one of those vile "Islamophobes" like Spencer vilifying Islam? And while we're on the topic of Khomeini, what about his sidekick Ayatollah Khalkali, who said "those who are against killing have no place in Islam"? I guess he must be another Islamophobe? BTW, if you care about Islam so much, why don't you try and convince them and their followers that they're wrong instead of resorting to the cowardly cliche and shout of "bigotry" directed against Spencer? Or does that require too much moral courage?

I agree with PRCaldude - above.

Abdullah is cheapening the atmosphere here, as long as he is allowed to play his juvenile games and hurl his adolescent insults.

Maybe that is his intent, and maybe that's all the more reason he should be banned.

"Even though I enjoy discussing things with you, I have a late clandestine meeting to go to…you know the type, planning, staging, coordination…lots to do…and we’re doing it in a Starbucks! Gotta love Seattle…"

Posted by: Abdullah Mikail at November 6, 2008 6:05 PM

Even though I am quite sure that I would disagree with sll the contents contained in any conference of yours, I will thankfully enjoy the temporary silence.

Truth.

I hope that the people treating him respected his religious beliefs as a Muslim.
And that he was not permitted to have morphine.

JIMBO

Interesting - he hasn't replied.

Abdullah Mikail sez..

"That is the bottom line. You stand up and say it is happening because Islam dictates it, but if that were the case there would be thousands and thousands of attacks per day."


perhaps there are thousands of attacks by Muslims every day...just not in the active military type mode...but in the silent Jihad mode...the constant infiltration of Muslims into every fabric of civilization...into the governments, the schools, the factories, the hospitals, into fine old neighborhoods...in fact, everywhere....with the sole intention of capturing all of it and converting it sooner or later to Islam...

This silent Jihad is the real weapon of Islam and it is just as deadly as a military style attack only slower but with the same end result...

Abdullah Mikail is just a Muslim following the Quran'ic guidelines...he uses words as a soldier would use a rifle...his aim is directed towards the Infidels...the goal is the same...Nothing but Islam is allowed to exist...

"That is the bottom line. You stand up and say it is happening because Islam dictates it, but if that were the case there would be thousands and thousands of attacks per day."

Posted by: Abdullah Mikail at November 6, 2008 6:05 PM

Abby commits, yet again, another logical fallacy. He erroneously states that since supposed mandates in Islam are not acted upon by a certain number of Muslims, (a number solely based on his opinion), and not on a daily basis, that the acts that do occur must be totally separate from Islam.

This is simply not so. Muslims, like adherents to any ideology are not monolithic in their beliefs. There are varying degrees of comprehension and piety.

That being said, to state that a deficiency in the number of violent acts commited by Muslims, compared to the sample, is proof that these acts are not associative to Islam at all, is simply illogical.

While Abdullah claims to have caught Spencer in a lie about alcohol, he has never, to my knowledge attempted to show that it IS NOT the case that jihad is mandated by ALL schools of Islamic jurisprudence, and that the meaning of it is WAR on the unbeliever.

I personally don't care whether or not Muslims are allowed to transport alcohol (as long as they allow me mine!), but that little inconvenient fact is why there have been 10000+ terror attacks since 9/11.

They have occurred in places that aren't imperialist powers and against peaceful non-combatants. And it sickens me.

Abdullah thinks there's nothing wrong with Islam. I disagree. Any ideology that teaches, as orthodox, that a state of war should exist between us, and only gives me three choices (convert, submit or die) is one that I think we should resist until our last breath.

But seriously, dude, why are you here? Do you think we'll suddenly see the error of our ways? What we see is the underlying violence and supremacism of your religion, and we see it everyday, in ways both violent and peaceful. Spencer's new book shows that jihad is progressing even without violence.

Hey Ab-Dullard - You in Yemen, yet?

No? LOL - I didn't think so, you hypocrite!

"But seriously, dude, why are you here? Do you think we'll suddenly see the error of our ways?" --Mo Foe

LOL

Nothing more grandiose and narcissistic than a male Mohammedan - except a serial killer.

I don't think Abdullah should be banned. I think he should be ignored. This would be much more effective, in that his ego would starve, he would become frustrated, and sooner or later show his true colors for all to see, in a bid for attention.

Give AM a "time out". Just a suggestion.