UC Berkeley: Arab students call Jews "Nazis" and "dogs," disrupt pro-Israel event, assault Jews

The testament of the so called religion of peace.

same senario as the Middle East...Muslims attack...Blame Jews...News coverage biased..

Islam is as islam does.

But then again, we'll hear from the fascist islamophiles and apologists for the nazislamic scum the usual mumbo-jumbo not about the violence and the horror of crimes committed in the name of allah (the imaginary), but about how "the reasons that motivate those acts" actually exempt their perpetrators from any responsibility for them.

That's sickening.

It should be blatantly obvious that the University needs to kick 'Students for Justice in Palestine',
off campus. Along with any other groups like them.

Physical altercations and violence has crossed the line of 'free speech'.

This is appalling, but not surprising. UC Berkeley is the school at which protestors shouted down Benjamin Netanyahu, who was of course expected to have his own security, as they had illegally refused to provide him with any. They of course provide radical Islamic speakers with more than adequate security, speakers such as Abdel Malik-Ali, who said that "neo-cons are all Nazi Zionists," as if he had anything to worry about, as if the violent element at this school somehow weren't entirely rooted, or at least based, in its MSA. Daniel Pipes and Nonie Darwish, of course, received the same treatment as Bibi Netanyahu.

Among the faculty at UC Berkeley are Hamid Algar, the Wahhabism propagandist and apologist, who makes it more than clear at every opportunity that he counts among his idols Khomeini, and Bazian, who encouraged Muslims in America to undertake an intifada, and to "let the backlash [of Judeophobia in the wake or the Iraq War] begin." To quote Stephen Schwartz, "[Algar] calls attention to MSA's role in the creation of the Islamic Society of North America, which is best described as a branch of the Saudi religious militia operating to impose Wahhabi conformity on all of American Islam." And Bazian, in typical taqiyya fashion, stated that, when discussing jihad and its "false" portrayal in the media, "[i]t really does not mean killing innocent people, it does not mean killing people in any way." Non-Muslims are apes and pigs to him, clealry.

What are these schools thinking? Really. That by marginalizing Jews and empowering the most toxic Muslims they will somehow prosper? 20 years from now, when there are no more Jews at UC Berkeley, as no Jews today would ever dream of allowing their children to attend such a school, that they will produce reputable scholarship, that intelligent people will actually want to attend their institution? That by enabling outright Nazism this somehow makes them acceptable to the more intelligent people in this world? That it is preferable, in the long run, to alienate society's best and brightest while simultaneously pandering to, not just the lowest common denominator, but to inbred, psychopathic parasites bent on destroying everything that is good about the institution and teh Western world more genrally, to people who, more than likely believe that intellectuals themselves deserve to be beheaded, in keeping with the tradition of the mass-murdering, illiterate pedophile to whom they devote their lives to worshipping? Check out the list of American Nobel Prize winners. Notice anything about their last names? That's right. They're overwhelmingly Jewish. Go ahead and alienate us Jews, UC Berkeley, because Judeophobes are all doomed to fail. They all do. Every time. I read in Frontpagmag not too long ago that educators at Jewish and even some Christian highs schools systematically refuse to write rec for student applications to both UC Berkeley and UC Irvine. They will the American University at Cairo in 20 years: esteemed amongst the lowest common denomitator, irrelevant to everyone else, and so inept as to preclude its graduates' admission to reputable graduate schools. 20 years from now the differences between Jew-friendly and Judeophobic institutions of higher learning will be more noticable statistically. They will be undeniable if schools like UC Berkeley continue down this road.

This article pretty much says it all: http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=E530BEFF-AE61-4DD6-BE0E-D796BA57FC2E

It's now "Obama time"; get used to it.

From above: It's now "Obama time"; get used to it...

I think President Prophet Obama may run out of minutes fairly quickly...

Muslims have been the "new Jews" for quite some time now. It's only getting worse as time goes on.

Well, yes; you guys know how I loathe and despise Barack Hussein--that is, Barry Soetoro, too. But it's the company he keeps, like these rabid Ikhwanists and Pali scum who operate under His Exaltedness' praenumbra that I fear, as they are among the vanguard and shock troops of Obama's New Order. Reminds us all of Kristallnacht; worse yet, in that, essentially we are ALL targeted Jews!

It would be amusing to see the University's about turn if a campaign was started to convince Jews not to go there, because it's known as a Anti-Semetic University, and Jews were encouraged to not send any money there for any reason.

I can almost hear the grinding of the gearbox, as the Dean goes into platitude overdrive.

As a relatively benign socialist type, who believes in Free Health Care, Social Benefits if unwell, and giving everyone a fair crack of the whip, it's amazing to me how I'm forced to move to the right on lots of issues, because standing still moves me so far to the right I'm aligned with Hitler.

We have really as societies got to wake up now.

'Hope' and 'Change' are in the air. A new vibrant America unlike any we have never known - from banana republic election fraud to stormtroopers.

Death threats to be sure ...

Can you spell incitement to riot and incitement to murder?

The KKK got sidelined through the use of the RICO act. Will anything be done here?

How long can the police go on ignoring this sort of thing?

How long can the public allow such negligence before we have to take the law into our own hands?

I will add that this is more or less how it started in my grandparents time.

Does the phrase "never again" mean anything?

Is this a hate crime?

Speaking of Arabs labeling Jews and "Nazis", check out this disgusting photo posted by a Pakistani-American on his Flickr-Photo Sharing page:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/waqar/262726837/

Certainly I believe in freedom of expression but I hope all infidels will voice their displeasure over this.

If an infidel posted this photo, I'm sure they would censor it.

Ian,

The only reason the Nazis and Italian Fascisti are considered "Right" is because that's what Stalin called them. Lenin and Stalin both deprecated their opponents, even other Party members, as Rightists. If you look at their actual programs, there is not much difference between Hitler or Mussolini and Stalin. Both were Socialists, although of the "Nationalist" rather than "Internationalist" type.

Here we go, some Israelis giving a good dose of sonic attack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWbUve7i5AU

Czeck out at 3.40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlAArE-OM4

Fascism is a very Leftist phenomenon. Mussolini campaigned as a conservative, which he was, in keeping with old-school colonialism, but not democracy. Hitler was a National Socialist. The Democrats were founded by Confederates and took in every Nazi they could scrounge up. They never supported going to war to save the Jews or even the Europeans from Hitler. It was about saving Stalin's precious Commies. That's why we waited util 1943 to join in, which was after Hitler and Mussolini had rolled over Western Europe and North Africa. The Left has always been fascist. Communism is Fascist. You see it today in their attempts to socialize America, to take away our 1st- and 2nd-Amendment rights, and in their blatant Judeophobia. They like propping up dictators, not supporting the only democracy in the Middle East. This is why Judeophobia is rampant in academia. I'm seriously reconsidering going for a PhD at this point.

And the MSA/MSU will be disbanded eventually. They're unindicted co-conspirators in the HLF trial. Plus, accoring to Max's blog, the Army has declared them a terror group.

Are there *any* decent Christians - and decent people of any other non-Muslim faith, or of no faith - anywhere on, or near, that campus?

If so - at any event like this, that can be reasonably expected to be gatecrashed by Arab (and non-Arab) Muslim rioters and their Useful Idiot or antisemitic fellow-travellers, there should be a solid wall of Righteous Gentiles, wearing stars of david and perhaps T-shirts reading 'I am a gharkad tree', and displaying the symbols of their own non-Muslim faith if they have one (whatever that is - Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Taoist...) and fully prepared to interpose their persons in between the Jihad and the Jews.

You would think, but students are intimidated by the MSAs and professors, staff, and administrators who without exception side with Muslims. They have to. Being arrogant mafiosi whores to Saudis is what they do. It's who they are. Depriving decent students of their most basic human and civil rights and advocating for, dissimulating on behalf of, unlawfully admitting, and standing up for terrorists is a job requirement. It sounds so cynical, but this is what I'm faced wih IU. Not a single staff member has failed to ignore my complaints as long as they could get away with it, and then, when that was no longer an option, they invariably gave me two options: be terrorized or get killed. This was in essence what my advisor told me to do after having watched my getting stalked, harassed, and accosted by an obviously mentally ill Arab student, also her advisee. This is academia in the 21st century. God help us all.

Posted by: DenverRodeo
Muslims have been the "new Jews" for quite some time now. It's only getting worse as time goes on.

No

The muslims have been accepted with open arms, now compare this to The Evian Conference - Hitler's Green Light for Genocide

http://christianactionforisrael.org/antiholo/evian/evian.html

Voyage of the Damned

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_St._Louis#The_Voyage_of_the_Damned

I think its time the muslims shut up about being treated like the Jews

Story picked up on INN:

Arab Students at UC Berkeley Disrupt Israel Event, Attack Jews

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128401

The story was originally posted on INN.

fox2

Well granted for the most part. Hitler and National Socialism, didn't really attempt to follow any Marxist doctrine, he was following his own.
He also didn't hide behind platitudes about fairness and equality while carrying out ethnic genocide.

Stalin and Communism did attempt to use it's pernicious doctrine to conceal the political genocide.
So I don't think they are quite equivalent. Although the end result always seems to be a pile of dead bodies.

What annoys me is the Hard Left are completely ignoring their own doctrines, if they stuck to there anti religious principles, then they would be hard put to support radical Islam. But then that's not the point is it, hating the USA is the point.
Guess this shows the bankruptcy of Marxism. With the economic and social framework discredited all over the world, all that's left is the dark bile and hate. Not being able to justify violence in the name of the workers brotherhood they just justify violence. You could be right, perhaps they are the same.

They are the same. It's always about victimizing, destroying, robbing, and conquering a group, be they the "class enemy," a nation, or Jews. Once that's accomplished, they cannibalize. This is the end fate of Islam, or communism, of fascism, and of the Dems. They cannot sustain themselves without others to parasitize. This is also why the always create the thing they ostensibly hate. It's ultimately about elitism, plunder, and self-loathing, and it always leads to despotism. The Dems love despotism. That's why refused to impeach Clinton. That's why they want to take away our 1st-and 2nd-Amendment rights. That's why our universities are fascist thuggocracies. They're evil, regressive, parasitic, and totalitarian and 'teaching,' at least in social sciences and history, consists of a Hitlerist disinformation campaign.

People - If you'd like to give the Chancellor of Berkeley a piece of your mind concerning this horrific event, here's Chancellor Robert J Birgeneau's e-mail from the Berkeley website:

chancellor@berkeley.edu

You'll probably get the same respone I got when I emailed the president and provost of IU about how the MSU is a terror organization, about the links to genocidal texts on their website, and about ISNA, to which their website also links. I told them that I take issue with my tuition and tax dollars funding a HAMAS front group that teaches its members to kill me, that slavery and polygamy are cool and that the law of the land is to be eradicated, not respected. I told them how the US Army has designated them a terror group. Their response: none.

IF you want to see how the so called students for justice in palistine
label there attack as a attack on them by the pro israel students
http://calsjp.org/2008/11/14/blog/sjp-statement-on-violent-anti-palestinian-attack-on-campus/
sigh can a arab ever tell the truth ?

if anyone wants to express their disgust at sjp lying here is there email admin@calsjp.org
maybe a few thousand emails will curb heir lying

Well, from now on all people of the Jewish faith need to start carrying round non lethal/lethal weaponry (depending on state laws) and use them when confronted. Even if confronted by an angry protester. We can't go down the same route of pre WW2. This will never happen again.

Those bastards should've been roughed up and thrown out of the windows. Peace and love and all talk is over.

I'm not gonna stand by and see another holocaust. I'd rather go to jail for 50 years for defending a "jew" than see another 10 million in concentration camps.

Hey people stop all this nonesense about Jews and Muslem this is America lets try to keep it that way we don't care what you are or where you came from, this is a Democratic Country we all go vote and the majority wins! and if your guy didn't win you have to accept that and tough it out till the next election, you can't go around calling people names just because your guy did'nt win , don't be some smart elick and think everything has to go your way all the time you know other People have ideas too and trust me if the majorety says we gonna do it like this and you don't like it you have two choices put up with it and respect it or you can leave this Country, we don't want any of that bullcrap you all got going on in the middle east, everybody wants to have it there way 24/7 and as you can see that does not work I don't how to explain it to you any clearer this is the United States of America Wake up

Curiassme:

Go back to smoking your bhang.

curiasme

I bet you $100 that you never went on some Arab Student site to complain or post your same message? Think we are some kind of a soft touch? Think we are a push over?

Dude, you better hope to hell you dont bump into any of us on one of your lame far left demos.

"Hey people stop all this nonesense about Jews and Muslem"

Translation; dont report on things when leftist thugs attack people, pretend it never happened.

Curiassme:

Put out your weed and take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbv_3Q7YL1M

leon don't get all uptight and threaten me because I simply stated some facts, you have aright to your opinion and thats it and the lefties have a right to their opinion thats just a fact of life and the sooner you understand that the less people will get killed some people just happen to think they know it all and everybody else is stupid and that simply is not reality , I don't care who you are or where you come from we are all human beings and trust me the sooner we understand that the sooner we won't have to point fingers , do you get such a thrill thinking you are the most high well let me tell you try to find another thrill like what the truth realy is

A spokesman for Dhimmis for Disarmament and Detente, no doubt.

Lambs for Peaceful CoExistence with Wolves.

Can't we just, like, all get along -- and agree to let Commandante Barack set up his dictatorship, and be Supreme Arbiter and Jizya Collector?

The more Arabs and Muslims are allowed into the countries of the West, the greater the danger, most immediately, to the Jews in those countries. The others -- the Christians and the post-Christians of every kind -- are not exempt, but they are for the moment too numerous to be confronted by Muslims head-on. So for now it is just those Star-of-David eternal canaries in the coal mine.

And our presence only serves to highlight just how and why those Muslims will never be able to adapt to a civilized society, not even after 3 generations. That's why the Pope should be asking for an end to the persecution of Jews as well as Christians. In terms of sheer numbers, Christians are the most persecuted people in the world, but the Muslims' inability to contain their hatred long enough to even feign considering not persecuting us or trying to wipe Israel off the map will only serve to demonstrate to the world both the intolerance and the intolerability of Muslims in terms of their interactions with people of other faiths or or no faith.

"Muslims have been the "new Jews" for quite some time now. It's only getting worse as time goes on.

No

The muslims have been accepted with open arms"

I mean Muslims are the new "old Jews" -- Muslims have become the new "oppressed" minority everybody has to respect and worry about hurting their rights.

Bus 19 Anti-Terrorism rally in Berkeley, on January 16, 2005.

On January 29, 2004, a Palestinian suicide bomber climbed aboard Bus 19 in Jerusalem and detonated his explosives. The explosion killed 11 people, injured 50, and destroyed the interior of the bus.

The mangled shell of the bus was subsequently sent to The Hague, in the Netherlands, where it was displayed outside the International Court of Justice to protest the court's ruling against Israel's separation barrier -- which is intended to prevent attacks exactly like the one that destroyed Bus 19. A Christian humanitarian group now called The Jerusalem Connection subsequently bought the bus and had it shipped to the United States, where, loaded on the back of a flatbed trailer, it has since made stops at anti-terror rallies across the country.

At none of its previous appearances did the bus stir much controversy. Everything was going smoothly until a group called Israel Action Committee of the East Bay decided to bring the bus for a three-hour exhibit in Berkeley, California on January 16, 2005. Word of the upcoming anti-terror rally quickly spread to pro-Palestinian activist groups in the Bay Area, and a counter-demonstration was planned -- based on the complaint that the bus exhibit was "out of context" and failed to illuminate the real "complexities" of the sources of terrorism. Meanwhile, Israel boosters planned to show up in support of the exhibit, and to express their condemnation of terrorism in general.

Shortly before the event, I asked the organizers if they expected a significant counter-demonstration of any kind. A silent vigil, perhaps, they said, but beyond that -- really, who would dare to come out and protest in favor of terror?

http://www.zombietime.com/bus_19_berkeley/

damm j,

Don't you find it strange that your basic political vision tosses Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, and FDR (dem) into a single pot, then stirs slowly to taste.

What is your taste? Oh yes, let them all conflagrate each other. Fascists thought of that one too.

Being brilliant has responsibilities. Dot the i's cross the t's.

Read 'Fascism and Paganism.' It IS all the same. The Left is the Left is the Left. The circumstances change, not the ideology. Read 'Under Cover.' Read 'The Ominous Parallels.' Or just read a pre-"Great Inhibition" (to quote Hugh) political science text.

And how are FDR, Hitler, and Mussolini supposed to be different to me if they all killed or enabled the killing of millions of Jews? There have been decent Democrats throughout the years but they were the exception, not the rule. It's not a coincidence that a minority of Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, nor is it a coincidence that gay marriage was banned California during the biggest Democrat voter turnout in history. It's not a coincidence that Muslims praise Hitler and Democrats side with Muslims who openly profess their genocidal aspirations. The days of Bobby Kennedy are long since over, and Joe Lieberman can no longer call his own party home. One cannot simultaneously be a Leftist and not be all for Jewish genocide. It's not a minor issue like property taxes. So yeah, Democrats are Nazis. Anyone who voted for Obama is a Nazi.

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/obamas-other-sleazebag-friends.html

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/01/obamas-scary-anti-israel-advisors.html

On what planet is this debatable?

Oh, and the Pope is Catholic, in case you didn't notice that either.

"It's not a coincidence that a minority of Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964."

I think jdamn meant to write "that a majority"

just pointing out a typo :)

Although the battery is terrible, last time I checked the Palestinians have just as much right to hang a Palestinain flag from their balcony as the Israelis do to have their demonstration/concert. Actually, they have MORE of a right since the balcony is their own private property and the demonstration/concert was in a public place (which requires authorization). Therefore, the blame for the nasty outcome of the situation should be placed on the Israeli supporters who went to the Palestinians private residence!! They knew, or should have known, that it would create huge confrontation, and they had no right (under our wonderful Constitution which you all seem to know so well) to ask them to take down the flag. But then again what do I know, I'm only a lawyer.

"Well, yes; you guys know how I loathe and despise Barack Hussein--that is, Barry Soetoro, too. But it's the company he keeps, like these rabid Ikhwanists and Pali scum who operate under His Exaltedness' praenumbra that I fear, as they are among the vanguard and shock troops of Obama's New Order. Reminds us all of Kristallnacht; worse yet, in that, essentially we are ALL targeted Jews!"

Yeah, like that guy Romm Emanuele he appointed as chief of staff. He is the son of a celebrated terrorist in Israel.....Oh wait, he is JEWISH, and his dad was a ZIONIST TERRORIST!! I see what you mean about Barak hating Jews. Not to mention the fact that he was the first politician to publicy call for Jerusalem to belong wholly to the Israelis! Yeah, he definately is against Jews and Israel.

It's true. The Democrats to the man were against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1800s and the 1900s. If it hadn't been for the Republican party, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would have never passed. In fact, the Democratic party created the Ku Klux Klan and used them as a "military arm." Read the Democrats' political platform from the 1800s to see how despicable these people really were. Read the Wall Street Journal's "Democrats' Missing History."

Y'know, all PC words aside. You are pretty much what you *do*. Sounds like this PA group follows the same mandate in the USA as its 'brothers' in-country. Namely: Plan, incite, attack, blame victims for 'provocation' etc ad nauseam...count on coverage to be biased, and if not, call arabic (suit)law-factories / 'relations council' to harrass, threaten and attempt to intimidate.
Perhaps one day we'll get smart, and immediately deport (After serving sentence) any Islamic found assaulting, raping, inciting or planning to attack our country. However I doubt it, given the bovine appeasement factions in our government.

In response to Abe Lincoln and emancipation,the South became solidly Democrat and because of how they felt opposed Civil Rights legislation.

In 1964 with Lyndon Johnson's (democrat) Civil Rights Act the South (mostly Democrats polled against the bill) morphed to solid Republican. So many Democrats missing history are now Republicans missing history, making them fodder for a prejudice of a different color.

"So yeah, Democrats are Nazis. Anyone who voted for Obama is a Nazi."

JDamn, or you've been butting your head against MSA so long that something has shaken loose. You say Nazi, but I feel more neo-vermin than neo-nazi.

I meant to say that considerably fewer Dems voted for the Civil Rights Act. That was poorly phrased. It was 62% of Dems vs. 80% of Reps.

Mu'min. It was not Palestinian private property. It was at UC Berkeley. And it wasn't flag that were outraged about. It's the battery and the death threats. When have Palestinians behaved themselves like decent human beings?

David, read Under Cover. Read the links I sposted. Then refute what I said logically. I f you voted for a guy who you had every reason to believe woul devote his career to Israeli genocide, as have everyone he has ever chosen to advise him going back to college, then that's what you supported. The anti-abolitionist/Confederate/Nazi/Democratic party.

And, once again, why is there all this fuss about using the term - "Islamofacism"?

curiasme

"do you get such a thrill thinking you are the most high well let me tell you try to find another thrill like what the truth realy is"

Huh?

curiasme,
Go back and keep drinking your koolaid. In facts YOU and yur leftistas and socilaist can leave the country. Most of us here are tired of seeing Jews treated badly on alot of college campuses and elsewhere. There can be no dialouge with muslims, islam and islamofacism. What do you know about jihad, stealth jihad, dhimmi way of servitude and second class treatment at best, and sharia law.It is been proven time and again since islam fisrt started perverting this earth that muslims and islam cannot, and refuses to get along with the countries and cultures they move into.

You OBVIOULSLY do not get it! This is not about the election, moron. It is all about the ways that islam and islamofacism are trying to subvert and convert this the USA from the inside. It is called Stealth Jihad. We do not need your explanations of what is going as most of on this site and a much better understanding about what is happening than you ever could. And all that bullcrap in the middle east? That has always been started by the islamofacists and Israel would like to live in peace but they are not allowed to. Since 1948 there has been almost non stop warfare against the Jews in Israel. As Israel goes, so will the middle east and they are the canaries in the coal mine.You want to support islamofacism and stick up for that democratista socialist crap, as I said keep drinking the koolaid. By the way, learn to spell, fool!

"I'm only a lawyer..."

From a posting by a newly-fledged Muslim who has apparently gone to law school, and even taken (and passed) the Bar Exam, and is well-pleased with himself for this achievement. I wonder how he grasped the eseence of American Constitutional Law -- memorizing the "three-part test" for this, and the "five-part test for that," does not in my opinion constitute understanding, or admiring, the important guarantees of individual rights that so distinguishes the American Constitution, and that are flatly contradicted by the Shari'a, and the very idea that underlies the American polity, as it does other advanced Western democracies, that of a government whose legitimacy is based on the will expressed by the people, while in Islam, a collectivist faith in which Believers are mere unquestioning "slaves of Allah," the ruler's legitimacy is based not on any conformity to the will expressed, directly or indirectly, by the will of the people butrather by how the ruler, or the government, conforms to the will expressed by Allah in the Qur'an and as glossed by the Sunnah. You may have read the casebook, and memorized this or that, but in what sense can a Believer in Islam conceivably uphold, deeply and truly, the principles of the American Constitution which all lawyers are sworn to uphold? Circles can't be squared. The Shari'a and the American Constitution do not reinforce or overlap but, as I noted above, are in flat contradiction of each other.

You can choose one, but not both.

Not to discount my own pre-coffee typos above, but with punctuation like "Palestinians private residence!!" and "But then again what do I know, I'm only a lawyer," judges will have a heyday reading his briefs.

The Arab students unfurled the large flag on a balcony above the outdoor site where the concert was taking place...
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mu'min21 wrote:

Although the battery is terrible, last time I checked the Palestinians have just as much right to hang a Palestinain flag from their balcony as the Israelis do to have their demonstration/concert. Actually, they have MORE of a right since the balcony is their own private property and the demonstration/concert was in a public place (which requires authorization).
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mu'min21, I know exactly where this is--lower Sproul Plaza, on the south side of campus. The "Students for Justice in Palestine" have an office--along with many other student organizations--in Eshelman Hall, which overlooks lower Sproul. This is *not* their private property--it is University property. During my student days at Cal, when I was editing the graphics for a number of student publications, I had an office almost just below this one.

While many student groups have signs--usually just the name of the group--in their office windows, the SJP often has a large flag and slogan-daubed banners hanging from their balcony.

more:

Several Jewish concertgoers went into the building to ask the Arabs to remove the flag – but were viciously attacked, with one male concertgoer knocked down from a blow on the back of his head, witnesses said.

College alumnus Gabe Weiner, who was helping run the concert, was assaulted by the leader of the anti-Israel group, Husam Zakharia, who also attacked one of the performers, Yehuda De Sa. The fight was finally broken up by John Moghtader, a senator in the UC Berkelely student organization. Police were called in and arrested Zakharia along with others from his group, charging them with battery. Witnesses said that the Arab students shouted anti-Semitic curses and epithets throughout the incident, calling the Jews “Nazis” and “dogs,” and threatening to kill them. According to one witness, as many as 20 anti-Israel students participated in the attacks.
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The SJP had a right to refuse to remove the flag--providing it did not also contain hate-inducing content. They *did not* have the right to assault the students requesting the flag's removal, nor did they have the right to use hate-filled epithets.

more:

Tikvah, a Jewish student group at the college, displayed on its web site numerous examples of anti-Israel and anti-Semitic graffiti, with anti-Israel elements defacing property with their screed.
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Tikvah is the organization which sponsored Daniel Pipes' lecture at the University last month.

more:

Jewish students complained that the only media coverage given to the event, in the Berkeley campus newspaper, was one sided. “Funny how the battery citation against Husam of SJP isn't even mentioned [in the article], and the comment which purports to be from an objective bystander is actually from one of the top people in Students for Justice in Palestine,” commented Ariel, one of the concertgoers...
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Sadly, this hardly surprises me, since the Daily Cal is in general quite biased in its reporting regarding Israel and Palestine.

I will be contacting the Chancellor's office.

From a post above:

Hey people stop all this nonesense about Jews and Muslem this is America lets try to keep it that way we don't care what you are or where you came from, this is a Democratic Country we all go vote and the majority wins! and if your guy didn't win you have to accept that and tough it out till the next election, you can't go around calling people names just because your guy did'nt win , don't be some smart elick and think everything has to go your way all the time you know other People have ideas too and trust me if the majorety says we gonna do it like this and you don't like it you have two choices put up with it and respect it or you can leave this Country, we don't want any of that bullcrap you all got going on in the middle east, everybody wants to have it there way 24/7 and as you can see that does not work I don't how to explain it to you any clearer this is the United States of America Wake up

I have to admit that I started to read your post, but gave up immediately.

Punctuation, periods, commas certainly appear to be lacking.

And, I'll wager you are a college student, right?

One of those who is smarter and more compassionate than the common sludge?

Or maybe you are a highly precocious ten-year-old?

mu'min21,

Did it escape your notice that, within 24 hours, Saint Obama RETRACTED his words of support for Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel? IT'S REALLY NO SECRET--he did it openly and shamelessly, in response to Pali pressure.

mu'min21,

Rahm Emanuel staked his reputation on the 1993 Oslo Accords, and arranged the handshake between Rabin and Arafat. Given Arafat's duplicity, and all the Israeli blood shed since, I'd say that the jury is still out on that one, wouldn't you say? As for Emanuel himself, he is complicated and may also be willfully blind to some dimensions of Arab Muslim intransigence and supremacism, misled and shortsighted about other aspects.

OK, my mistake, they do not OWN the place they were flying the flag. Nontheless, flying a Palestinian flag on the premises of a Palestinian support organization is hardly dastardly act. Somehow I think that if one of you were walking down the street flying the American flag and someone came by and forced you stop, you wouldn't take to kindly to it. Yes I know, this IS America, but the point remains. They had a right to fly their flag. From the reports I read John Moghtader, and Gabe Weiner were both hurling racial slurs and hate speech when they approached them. Not to mention the fact that both of them have been involved in several "incidents" at both pro-Palestian and anti-Israeli Policy events in the past. How is it that these same 2 guys keep ending up at the "wrong palce, wrong time," but it is never their fault? Not to mention that originally all three of the Israeli supporters involved were charged with battery, and then later they decided to only cite one of them. Pretty much ANY witness to the event was there to support one side or the other.

Nobody can support, whole heartedly, every policy/action of ANY government or the like (i.e. PA) and not be considered a fanatic. They all do stupid, unjust, immoral things at times. This goes for the Palestinians, Isreal, and the US! The Palestians methods are flawed, sometimes outright evil and sinful (i.e. killing of innocents and suicide), but their cause is just. The Israelis should be thankful that the Palestinians have the problems with their methods that they do, or they (Israel) would have lost the war 20 years ago. However, both Israel and the US are guilty of the same crimes, they just do it in a different way, and are very good at spin. What's worse, they KNOW it is wrong, and do it anyway! Israel uses terror as a strategic plan oust the Palestinians from their own land completely!

Why all of the concern with perfect spelling, puntuation and grammar? This is a comment section, we are not handing in college term papers. As long as you can understand what someone is saying, who cares? Did it ever occur to you that maybe curiasme's native language is not English?? How many different languages do you all speak? I only ask because Americans are known to be the most ignorant people in the world when it comes to other languages, cultures, and customs. Oh, and before you say something about me; I AM an American, born and bred, but the facts are the facts.

Hugh

You really should learn about something before you try to show off your knowledge about it. The shari'a calls for leaders to be chosen by THE PEOPLE. That was the cause for the original Sunni Shi'a split. It is just that once you have chosen, you cannot say "oh, I don't like what you decided, so now you are fired." You can only remove them if they contravene the law. Democracy, true democracy (which doesn't exist anywhere in the world) is an INEFFECTIVE form of government. People are so busy trying to convince each other that NOTHING gets done. Anyone who knows anything about political systems will tell you that, ideally, a benevolent dictatorship is the best form of govenment. To have 1 person, who truly cares for the well being of the people and the state, who has the power to make all the decisions. The people are looked after, and things that need to get done get done. If you have freedom, you have TRUE freedom. It is not the "illusion" of freedom that we have in the US, although even the illusion is being stripped away now! You all need to stop listening to the wahabi and salafi fanatics (although even the "moderate" members of these sects have a very distorted vision of Islam) and allowing this to shape your view of what Islam IS. True, traditional, Islam is NOT what all the crazies you see on tv and in the news say it IS!

"Patriot" (I use that term VERY loosley)

"Go back and keep drinking your koolaid. In facts YOU and yur leftistas and socilaist can leave the country. Most of us here are tired of seeing Jews treated badly on alot of college campuses and elsewhere. There can be no dialouge with muslims, islam and islamofacism. What do you know about jihad, stealth jihad, dhimmi way of servitude and second class treatment at best, and sharia law.It is been proven time and again since islam fisrt started perverting this earth that muslims and islam cannot, and refuses to get along with the countries and cultures they move into."

I am sorry, but you havew NO idea what you are talking about! Throughout the history of the Islamic state, Islam found success where all other empires had failed regarding integration with conquered lands. In fact, if you READ your history books, the Muslims were the best friends the Jews had during WWII (until 1945). The Allies could care less about them. The MUSLIMS helped, protected, and assisted them in both North Africa and Europe. Of course there were some bad seeds, like the Mufti of Palestine, and the Hanjar divisions in Yugoslavia, but the Muslim People as a whole did everything they could to help the Jews. In Paris the Imam of the Great Paris Mosque used to give false papers certifying that Jews were in fact Muslims to Jews who were about to be picked up by the Germans. The Nazis then had to let them go. He did this so much that the General in charge of Paris went to see him and ask him to stop (and threaten him with deportation) several times. He did not stop though. He continued helping as many Jews as he could until the end of the war. The same was true in North Africa, where thousands of Muslim families haelped to hide and protect the Jews from the Nazis. This is not to mention the period from 900-1700 when Jews were routinely slaughtered by th Christians in Europe, and fled to the Muslims land byt the tens of thousands to seek refuge and safety. The problems between the Jews and Muslims (as a whole) originated when the Israelis STOLE the land of Palestine from the Palestinains. As soon as they give it back, the problems end.

"The problems between the Jews and Muslims (as a whole) originated when the Israelis STOLE the land of Palestine from the Palestinains. As soon as they give it back, the problems end."

I'm thinking that the problem started when Mohammed decided to drive the Jews out of Medina. As a point of fact, one of Mohammed's last statements charged his followers to ride Arabia infidels. As you have no doubt have noticed, there are no Jews in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. (Do Jews have a right to return to Medina? Inquiring minds want to know.) So much for the notion of Islam being good at integrating native population into its empire.

If you want to bring peace to the middle east (or, for that matter, anywhere where an Islamic paradise borders a normal country), end the jihad,

It's easy, you can do it. Any muslim can do it. STOP JIHAD!

Feel better? I know I do.

mu'min21 wrote:

Democracy, true democracy (which doesn't exist anywhere in the world) is an INEFFECTIVE form of government. People are so busy trying to convince each other that NOTHING gets done. Anyone who knows anything about political systems will tell you that, ideally, a benevolent dictatorship is the best form of govenment. To have 1 person, who truly cares for the well being of the people and the state, who has the power to make all the decisions. The people are looked after, and things that need to get done get done.
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mu'min21 tips his hand. I suppose that is why life is so much worse, in terms of human rights, security, religious and intellectual freedom, scientific innovation, and material wealth in the democracies of the West than in your model "benevolent dictatorship".

I wonder which "benevolent dictators" he has in mind? With more than 70 countries ruled by dictators around the world, who exercise arbitrary authority over their citizens and who cannot be removed from power through legal means--there are so many to choose from.

Oh, there's Kim Jong-il, of North Korea, who runs the world's most repressive communist state (quite an accomplishment, when you think of it). There's Than Shwe, of Burma (Myanmar), who presides over a repressive military dictatorship, and Robert Mugabe, the kleptocrat who has driven lush Zimbabwe into ruin and starvation.

Let's face it, though--the rest of the world are pikers in the dictatorship category compared to the anti-democratic Muslim world.

So many to choose from--there's King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, a model of religious freedom, as long as you are Muslim--that is, Sunni Muslim--well, actually, just Wahabbi Sunni Muslim. And he's doing inter-faith outreach! There's Sayyid Ali KhamEnei of Iran, where they're considering passing legislation mandating the legal murder of apostates. Oh, and there's Omar al-Bashir of Sudan, who, in addition to waging war on the Christian and animist south of his country, is murdering fellow Muslims in Darfur--well, he has to, you see--they aren't *Arab Muslims*, as he believes himself to be.

Is your model "benevolent dictator" on my list? Or did I miss someone?

iInfidel at November 16, 2008 3:47 PM, many thanks for letting it be known of that picture the Paki-American. I think my comment left on his page will raise a few blood pressures. As my mom used to say, "If you can't say something nice ... "

iInfidel at November 16, 2008 3:47 PM, many thanks for letting it be known of that picture the Paki-American posted. I think my comment left on his page will raise a few blood pressures. As my mom used to say, "If you can't say something nice ... "

Apologies for the double post. I wasn't aware the first one had gone through.

(Hunting for the manual on how to do posts)

I'm proud of the Jews on this one: they fought back. UCI Jews, pay attention!

“Anyone who knows anything about political systems will tell you that, ideally, a benevolent dictatorship is the best form of govenment. To have 1 person, who truly cares for the well being of the people and the state, who has the power to make all the decisions.”
Posted by: mu'min21

SIEG HEIL!!! SIEG HEIL!!! SIEG HEIL!!!

gravenimage

If you read my post, I said IDEALLY. Yes, there are dictators in the world, but not any that would qualify as benevolent dictators. And I said nothing about not being able to remove them from power.

tanstaafl

Again, READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS. The Muslims and the Jews of Medina got along very well until certain tribes among the Jews choose to break the treaty/alliance/pact that they had with the Muslims. When one decides to support your enemies when things start to look grim, you cannot allow them to remain in your midst. Each incident between the Jews and Mulsims of Medina occured because the tribe in question broke this agreement that they signed.

You know it's funny, all you guys keep spuoting off about the Nazi's, but all I ever here from any of you are the slogans/sayings/justifications that you have been spoonfed by CNN, George Dumba*s (oops, I mean Dubya) Bush, and the Zionist lobby. Which by the way was the same situation with the German people RE the Nazi's and their propaganda. You guys really have no clue what is REALLY happening in your OWN country, let alone the rest of the world! Wake up! You let the media and government lead you around by the nose using their scare tactics, and you have no idea about what is really at stake. ALL you guys should do a little more reading (real books, not this Robert Spencer BS) and a little less typing/arguing on some stupid comment page. Have fun boys, I really hope you guys grow up to be halfway decent people.

As-Salamu Aleikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh

Ah, yes -- yet another Muslim fantasist who thinks that the Islamic prescription for humanity is the ultimate solution (certainly, to the "Jewish question). How blind and foolish you are! GOD DOESN'T NEED OR REQUIRE THAT A KHALIFAH BE INSTALLED, and there is nothing "ideal" about it, except in the deluded, fevered imaginations of true believers.

Double ditto for that abomination called shari'ah, and for other manifestations of Islamic supremacy.

mu'min21 wrote:

Democracy, true democracy (which doesn't exist anywhere in the world) is an INEFFECTIVE form of government. People are so busy trying to convince each other that NOTHING gets done. Anyone who knows anything about political systems will tell you that, ideally, a benevolent dictatorship is the best form of govenment. To have 1 person, who truly cares for the well being of the people and the state, who has the power to make all the decisions. The people are looked after, and things that need to get done get done.
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gravenimage

If you read my post, I said IDEALLY. Yes, there are dictators in the world, but not any that would qualify as benevolent dictators. And I said nothing about not being able to remove them from power.
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So, let's see--Benevolent Dictatorship is as much a chimera as True Democracy. And yet, somehow, "anyone who knows anything about political systems will tell you that, ideally, a benevolent dictatorship is the best form of govenment" (sic). How would that be, then if there is no example in the world today of this ideal political system?

Funny, just like "True Communism", it seems that a "True Dictatorship" proves rather elusive.

Perhaps there was some example from the illustrious pages of history? One of the early "rightly-guided Caliphs", perhaps?

The more democratic a nation, in general, the better the status of the populace. Even partially democratic societies tend to be better off than dictatorships, though. Odd how things work, out here in the real world.

A caliph is both the supreme political and religious leader combined. What did the man say about absolute power corrupting . . .?

"Are there *any* decent Christians - and decent people of any other non-Muslim faith, or of no faith - anywhere on, or near, that campus?"
Posted by dumbledoresarmy.

Nice fantasy, DA.

Jews are not worth anything to Gentiles these days. They're blamed if they defend themselves, and jeered at if they don't. If they seek help they're jeered at, and if they don't they're derided - ususally at the same time as the jeerers and deriders are stroking the egos and more of murderous Muslims.

Excuse my cynicism.

"When one decides to support your enemies when things start to look grim, you cannot allow them to remain in your midst."
Posted by muumin.

If the Israelis could only believe and act on this....

carpediadem

you're Jewish? If so: I know it won't help much, but ...here's a big virtual hug over the internet for you, from one Gentile Aussie Christian who is getting seriously angered and seriously frightened by the rising tide of antisemitism, so much of it fuelled by Arab/Muslim Big Lies about Israel, that has infected the churches, the universities, and just about everywhere else.

I'm hopping mad with my stupid Foreign Minister who has just told Australia's UN ambassador to vote with the Islamintern on the two latest Israel-bashing resolutions.

I'm even angrier with the idiot (or traitor?) flying the Middle East desk at our department of foreign affairs, who thinks that Ahmadinejad's virulent antisemitism has nothing to do with Islam (!!) ::head desk:: head desk:: *spits*

Out of about five or six letters I've written to my church's diocesan paper refuting the agitprop of Useful Idiot church members who mindlessly parrot what they've been fed by Islamochristian outfits like Sabeel, maybe two have gotten through to publication.

Shoutout to Canberra jihadwatchers - any chance of setting up a public reading, on the lawns on top of Parliament House, of the more damning selections from Bostom's 'Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism'. We've got to do *something* to get this stuff into the public consciousness.