Pamela Geller and I have been in touch with Meadowvale Cemetery in Brampton, Ontario, and have told them of our intention to provide a memorial marker for the grave of honor killing victim Aqsa Parvez, so that she is no longer dishonored in death as she was dishonored in life. This was Pamela's initiative, and we all owe her a debt of gratitude for it.
Thanks to your generous donations, which Pamela has kindly listed here, we now have enough to cover the cost of a marker as it was listed in the Toronto Sun, and then some. We will get the best marker that the total of the donations will cover.
We are doing this for Aqsa. If the family has the marker removed, as the Sun story hinted that they would, we will simply set it up somewhere else, as a monument to Aqsa and to victims of honor killing everywhere.
Thank you again to all who have donated -- and may we never, ever, have to do this again, for any other poor young girl.
It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these young girls who are honor killing victims would still contend that Islam is "the only true religion". It's an irony.
"Thank you again to all who have donated -- and may we never, ever, have to do this again, for any other poor young girl."
Unfortunately, you and I both know that as long as Islam is practiced as written and especially as preached, we will have to do this again, and again and again...
Islam is a lie and truth is killing it.
If the family doesn't agree your marker will be gone in no time.
Sheik:
Oh yeah. I meant to address that. Will revise the post.
Yrs
Robert
Robert, Pamela, and those who have donated have done a noble thing here. I had more to say but I can't. I am so tired of hearing about this crap. Girls murdered, rape victims stoned to death, young girls doused with acid, FGM, all from the religion of peace. The only peace the death cult Islam brings is 'rest in peace'.
That cemetery isn't far from where I live. I'll go there sometime, to pay my respects.
Greetings:
Not to throw a wet blanket on this excellent idea, but can a grave marker legally be put on a grave owned by someone else?
Do you all have permission from the owner of the gravesite?
Greetings:
Not to throw a wet blanket on this excellent idea, but can a grave marker legally be put on a grave owned by someone else?
Do you all have permission from the owner of the gravesite?
If the family has that marker removed, their privacy should not be respected, and such an act on their part should be splashed on newspages front and center. In addition to showing how an innocent (albeit Muslim) girl was more respected by Infidels than her own Muslim family, it will also demonstrate (if any further demonstration was needed) why Muslims do not belong in the West, period!
If the family has the marker removed, as the Sun story hinted that they would...
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Then we'll know for sure where the family's loyalties lie, and it will not be with their poor murdered daughter.
It is comparatively rare, from all that I have read, for an "honor" killing to be the work of just one crazed family member. More often it is a family affair, with more trusted family members luring the victim, and then often several male relatives carrying out the actual killing.
Often even family members who were not in on the murder approve of it, and the few who might be appalled by the crime are too cowed to speak up.
And we always hear about "Muslim family values". Well, this is what those "values" really look like.
Kudos to Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller and all those who donated to this worthy cause. I just hope this poor girl can finally rest in peace, with a proper marker for grave.
That's "for her grave".
The family that murdered her can rip out the headstone?
The killers can kill her yet again.
There must be a law - and if not, we'll have to pass one.
Those murderers are not her family.
A cemetery plot is privately owned by the person who purchased it.
Depending on the cemetery, a very old plot might have taxes or fees owing, and then whoever pays those off can become the owner and can then place a stone on the grave. Of course, that doesn't apply in the case of Aqsa Parvez's grave.
Assuming her father owns the plot, even if/when he is convicted of her murder, he will still be the legal owner of the plot.
I'm surprised the cemetery said it would place a marker on Aqsa's grave without permission from the owner.
Who knows? Maybe her plot was payed for by the Canadian province in which she lived and died. Of course Canada's government is so f'ed up the province would probably have the headstone removed if the murderous family wished, but I say move forward and force the issue.
Who knows? Maybe her plot was payed for by the Canadian province in which she lived and died. Of course Canada's government is so f'ed up the province would probably have the headstone removed if the murderous family wished, but I say move forward and force the issue.
If Robert and Pamela are in contact with the cemetary, it wouldn't hurt to ask them who has ownership of the grave.
"I'm surprised the cemetery said it would place a marker on Aqsa's grave without permission from the owner."
IIRC the original Toronto Sun story had the cemetery essentially saying "you can go ahead, but the family may object". I think they were really saying, "It's only numbered, the family obviously doesn't care, so go ahead."
It would be quite a public relations disaster for Muslims in this area (I work in Brampton) if they suddenly demanded the monument's removal or took steps to prevent its placement. At this point the story is international. I think the usual Muslim apologists in Canada (and elsewhere) will know that they can't win this one.
Of course as we all know, her family, (and I use that term loosely given their disregard for our customs and feelings about families) could plunge ahead and tell the cemetery to move it/stop it. If that happens, I'm sure people will find a suitable place to remember this young woman. The cemetery is not going to let these adherents of murder just waltz in and move it themselves, either.
"Those murderers are not her family."
I agree. We need to force Muslims to adhere to OUR standards of conduct, not the other way around.
PS Thank you for what you've done for Aqsa.
I think it would be a good idea to get the local media involved when the marker is placed. That way when the family asks to remove the marker the media will be right on top of it. Some people might say to move on and let go but just as Aqsa did not deserve to die neither does her tragic story. Anyways what you guys are doing is wonderful.
Thanks Pamela
blownaway
Toronto
It will happen again. Here.
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/if-youre-a-scared-muslim-.html
I checked out Pamela's "Atlas Shrugs" coverage of this story. There were quite a number of contributors, including a man who identified himself only as "Mohammed S.", who is an apostate from Islam.
Only one Muslim was listed--one Khalim Massoud. He wrote:
I am embarrassed that I am the only Muslim contributing to this fund. I hope it changes.
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I hope it changes, too. Kudos to you, Mr. Massoud!