"He decided there should be some meaning to his life and jihad was his calling"

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"He had always been a religious Muslim" -- that little detail is buried way down in this AP story, while his having been a "crook" is in the headline. That's par for the course in the mainstream media these days, but it raises questions. How is it that a "low-level thief" found no difficulty being at the same time a "religious Muslim"? Did he find some justification in Islam for stealing from unbelievers, in light of Muhammad's dictum that only if one accepted Islam would his "life and property" be "safe" from the Muslims?

I know, I know, it's "Islamophobic" even to ask the question. But the existence of that hadith, and of the Islamic legal principle that the property of those who are considered by the Muslims to be at war with Islam is lawfully to be appropriated by the Muslims, raises that question. And that question should be raised, since it raises questions about Muslim communities in the West, and what they are teaching to their people, and what Western authorities ought to make sure they are teaching to their people.

Also, he was, according to AP here, always a "religious Muslim." Why, then, since we all know that Islam is a Religion of Peace That Has Been Hijacked By a Tiny Minority of Extremists, did he apparently see no contradiction to the peaceful principles of his faith not only in being a petty thief, but also in going to the jihad camp -- and later in shooting innocent people in Mumbai?

And why won't anyone in the mainstream media dare to ask these questions?

Are they irrelevant? I hardly think so, given the increasing presence of Muslims in the West, and ongoing efforts by Muslim groups to stifle just such questioning -- why does the OIC find inquiries like this so uncomfortable? Does anyone in Washington know or care?

"India attacker rose from crook to militant," by Ravi Nessman for Associated Press, December 6 (thanks to Visvas):

MUMBAI, India – The lone gunman to survive the Mumbai terror attacks was a petty street thug from a dusty Pakistani outpost who was systematically programmed into a highly trained suicide guerrilla over 18 months in jihadist camps, India's top investigator into the attacks said Saturday.

Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, 21, was one of the 10 men who came ashore on a small rubber raft Nov. 26, divided into five pairs and attacked some of Mumbai's best known and most beloved landmarks. [...]

Photographs of Kasab walking calmly through the train station with his assault rifle made him a symbol of the attacks. [...]

Kasab said he was one of five children of Mohammed Amir Kasab, a poor street food vendor in the Pakistani town of Farid Kot, Maria said.

This claim could go either way. Just as no anti-jihadist has ever managed to come up with a quotation from the Qur'an, Hadith, or sira that any Muslim has ever admitted to having heard before (or if he clearly has heard it before, he professes to know of a context that renders it benign, although he usually does not deign to explain that context to the assembled unbelievers), so also it is very hard to find any Muslim who has ever met someone who turned out to be a jihadist. Sometimes, of course, this is impossible -- and then the jihadist's neighbors affirm that he was a gentle, quiet soul such that no one would ever have dreamed he could do such a thing.

In this case, however, the denial seems to check out -- although that's just going on the word of Pakistan's spy agencies, who have themselves been linked to the attack:

But residents of the impoverished town of 7,000 people, 90 miles south of the Pakistani city of Lahore, said they had never heard of Kasab or his father.

"Absolutely wrong, we don't know Mohammed Ajmal Kasab and no person having such name lives here," said butcher Mohammed Ramzan, 60. Ramzan said he had seen Kasab's photo on TV and was certain he had never seen him before.

Mayor Ghulam Mustafa said police and investigators from Pakistan's spy agencies had also investigated the gunman's link to the town and found nothing.

Oh, well then, he couldn't be from Farid Kot!

Maria said that as a teenager, Kasab become a low-level thief, robbing people at knifepoint.

But he dreamed of starting his own gang, and began poking around Lahore, trying to buy guns. He was put in touch with a man who offered to send him for weapons training, and he readily agreed, Maria said.

Kasab soon found himself in a camp run by Lashkar-e-Taiba, Maria said. Lashkar, a banned Pakistani militant group, has alleged ties to Pakistan's powerful intelligence agencies.

Though he had always been a religious Muslim, Kasab had never ascribed to the violent ideology of some extremist groups, Maria said.

That quickly changed in the camp.

If he rejected the "violent ideology of some extremist groups," how exactly did he "find himself" in an Lashkar-e-Taiba camp in the first place?

"The moment he came under their wings, the indoctrination started. And that's when he decided there should be some meaning to his life and jihad (holy war) was his calling," he said.

For 18 months, Kasab was put through a multiphase training program at different camps in Pakistan. It started with physical fitness and jihadi indoctrination, proceeded to small arms lessons, moved on to explosives training and eventually to classes in handling assault rifles, Maria said. He was also trained in how to navigate a boat.

The training was done in Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistani-controlled Kashmir and the mountain town of Mansehra, in Pakistan's deeply conservative North West Frontier Province, which was a center of training for Kashmiri militants before Pakistan began its peace process with India. Some was also done in Murdike, the base of the Islamist charity Jamaat-ud-Dawa, which has been accused by the U.S. of being the front group for Lashkar-e-Taiba. [...]

All the men were given fake IDs from Indian universities to confuse authorities about the source of the attacks, Maria said.

None expected to survive the attack, he said: "It was a suicide mission."...

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Things haven't changed since the 13th/ 14th century when Marco Polo (1254-1324) travelled through Islamised Central Asia:

"The Muslims in Persia are wicked and treacherous.

"The law which their prophet Mohamet [Muhammad] has given them lays down that any harm they may do to one who does not accept their law, and any appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all..

:And if they suffer death at the hands of Christians, they are accounted martyrs.

"For this reason they would be great wrongdoers, if it were not for the government". From Penguin 1958 edition of The Travels of Marco Polo, pp 57-58.

And here's Montaigne's 'take' on the Assassins, in the 16th century:

"The Assassins, a people dependent on Phoenicia, are considered among Mohammedans as being of supreme devoutness and purity of morals.

"They hold that the most certain way to deserve Paradise is to kill someone of a different religion."

Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592)

In the life of this miserable Mohammedan from Pakistan we see both features of Mohammedanism exemplified: the permission of theft (who did he steal from, I wonder?) and the principle that the murder of a non-Muslim is the Muslim murderer's ticket to Paradise.

It's a pity Kasab didn't complete his suicide mission. No virgins for him!

"How is it that a "low-level thief" found no difficulty being at the same time a "religious Muslim"?

Another who was socially deprived and lead astray then?

May this KKKasab rot in some dank Indian jail cell.

....They hold that the most certain way to deserve Paradise is to kill someone of a different religion."

Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592)

dumbledoresarmy

History is a clear, concise, and perfect guide to understand the validity of all of our observations regarding Islam and terrorism. If only our people would take the time to read this history.

"how exactly did he 'find himself' in an Lashkar-e-Taiba camp in the first place?"
A telemarketer told him he had won a free one week trial to a fitness center?

"May this KKKasab rot in some dank Indian jail cell."

Ditto. And preferably without any teeth to show if he decides to display an excrement-eating grin like Amrozi's to the media. That'd also make it quite difficult for him to chew up any of the halal meat that he's sure to request in prison.

Montaigne, Voltaire etc two giants that would have never existed if the mohammedans had conquered France. Thank you Charles Martel

"He decided there should be some meaning to his life and jihad was his calling"


So Allah did not put 'meaning' in his life until he was called to kill kufrs, and 'that' put meaning in his life.

Sounds about right to me...There's lots of 'meaning' to his life now.

Killing for Allah has put 'meaning' in the lives of millions of Mohammadans...

If you want 'meaning', Allah provides the way...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Kasav_belongs_to_Pakistan_UK_paper/articleshow/3805416.cms

Kasav, the captured Mumbai terrorist, belongs to Faridkot, Punjab, Pakistan.

The Pakistani establishment denied this simple fact that a British journalist could find by simply looking at the electoral list and talking to a few villagers. Are they serious about the investigation ?
Here was the Pakistani attempt -
http://www.dawn.com/2008/12/01/top8.htm

Pakistan could be listed as state sponsor of terrorism

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20081207/GLOBALBRIEFING/288024240/-1/ART

Paul Woodward, Online Correspondent

Last Updated: December 07. 2008 10:32AM UAE / December 7. 2008 6:32AM GMT

I am weary of all this "honest broker" nonsense. U.S. should clearly side with India. The U.S. should back up any Indian military foray into Pakistan from Afghanistan.

Hours after the 9/11 Pakistan / Saudi sponsored atrocities in New York and Washington, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State, Richard Armitage reportedly threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the stone age" unless it joined the fight against al-Qaeda. This was proper, given Pakistan's role in the murderous terrorism.

An honest Muslim on Jerusalem Post:
Talkback #2. India and Israel must submit to Islamic Rule

India and Israel were both once ruled over as Islamic states or under an Islamic Caliphate and they were following Islamic Sharia Law. Only when the Jews and Hindus submit to Islamic rule, only then will there be peace.
Abdallah - India (11/28/2008 12:56)

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1227702352525&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


Excerpts from the aritcle:

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20081207/GLOBALBRIEFING/288024240/-1/ART

"Despite a soft-line adopted by Bush administration in public to the benefit of doubt to Pakistan's civilian government and spur it into action, Washington has little doubt that the terrorist attack on Mumbai was sponsored and planned with state support, US officials are saying privately. One things is certain; this was not a run-of-the mill Lashkar-i-Taiba operation....

The Christian Science Monitor spoke to Akash Maheshwari, an Indian businessman who has no doubt about what will happen in the standoff between India and Pakistan. India will present its evidence that Pakistani-trained militants carried out last week's attacks and Pakistan will do nothing.

"Years of diplomacy have not stopped the violence, he says, adding: 'If we don't take military action, then the government is a fool.' "


"....Though the number of dead in last week's coordinated assault in Mumbai was more than 10 times that of the 2001 attack, the Indian government has shown no signs this time of moving soldiers closer to Pakistan, despite some public pressure for hard-fisted action.

"Part of India's forbearance, some analysts say, is because it ultimately gained little from the 2001-02 military face-off. A peace process initiated in 2003 has improved the air somewhat, but real progress toward resolving the dispute over Kashmir, the divided Himalayan region that lies at the heart of the two countries' animus, has been fitful and elusive.

" 'The step taken in 2001 and 2002 was not the wisest. Maybe they learned from that,' said Ved Marwah, an expert on Indo-Pakistani relations at the Center for Policy Research in New Delhi...."

Though they all may have expected to die in their attack, the Mumbai shooter's mandate was to kill as many non-Muslims as they could before being killed themselves.

We will meet their brothers here, soon enough.

in light of Muhammad's dictum that only if one accepted Islam would his "life and property" be "safe" from the Muslims?

Funny, Mo's "dictum" doesn't seem to bring safety to those killed, ten or twenty at a time, in the almost-daily market-bombings in Iraq and Pakistan.

"India attacker rose from crook to militant"
........................

How is this "rising"? As much as I despise street thugs, they are less abhorent than mass murderering Jihadists who target innocent civilians. This respect from the media, with the idea that all "militants" must have a just cause, is part of the problem.

"The training was done in Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistani-controlled Kashmir and the mountain town of Mansehra, in Pakistan's deeply conservative North West Frontier Province, which was a center of training for Kashmiri militants before Pakistan began its peace process with India"

It is not surprising to find out the Pakistani government knows all about this camp and has never attacked it..

Zaid Hamid of an influential government sponsored Pakistani think tank, Brass Tacks, advocated cutting off supply lines to US troops in Afghanistan on national TV multiple times if Americans pressurize Pakistan in any way. McCain visited Pakistan and soon enough, 'militants' obliged.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/08/world/asia/08pstan.html

Islam breeds vipers.

ebonystone

yes.

Theoretically Muslims are supposed to be nice to each other whilst they are permitted and commanded to be nasty - 'harsh' - toward dhimmis and those in dar al Harb.."Let them find harshness in you"...but the evidence of history suggests that overall, Muslims have spent an awful lot of time killing and oppressing other Muslims, since it seems to be all too easy for a Muslim (person or group) to convince themselves that another Muslim (person or group) whom they don't like, or whose property they covet, is insufficiently-Islamic and therefore requires to be punished.

Indeed, the definition of jihad as 'inner struggle' is perfectly truthful...if one translates 'inner struggle' as what the infidel world calls 'civil war' and 'family feud'.

One Ben Dror Yemini, in Maariv, once had a go at totting up roughly how many Muslims have been killed by other Muslims, in the mid-late 20th century and counting. He called his article, 'And the world is silent'.

The article was written in Hebrew and translated into English at the following link:

http://imshin.net/?p=448
http://imshin.net/?p=451
http://imshin.net/?p=452







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