But he abandoned her when she was two, and no one knows for certain whether he is alive or dead. Sharia Alert from the Islamic Republic: "Bride, 80, blocked until dad says yes," by Robert Tait in the Guardian via The Age, December 21:
AFTER a life of spinsterhood, Setareh, an 80-year-old Iranian, assumed she was fated to see out her remaining days alone and was preparing to move into an old people's home for company.When the boy-next-door from her youth suddenly reappeared and proposed, she thought her long-forgotten dreams of marriage were about to be fulfilled.
But Iran's laws require a father to give permission before a daughter can marry.
Now the lovestruck octogenarian has asked a Tehran court to establish whether her father, who abandoned her when she was two, is dead or alive so her wedding can go ahead....
"Seeing Jamshid made my heart start beating faster and suddenly the passion of youth returned," she said.
"When I heard him proposing to me once again, I thanked God for the second chance because I had found another spur for the remaining days of my life."
Judge Mahmoud Baghal Shirvan asked officials to examine the father's status and pronounce whether he is dead or alive. If he is found to have died, the court is expected to permit Setareh to marry.
Her plight is an example of what campaigners say is systematic discrimination against women under Iranian law.
No kidding, really?
But the state-linked Iranian Women's News Agency said women need their father's permission to protect them from "emotional" marriage decisions.
Yes, we can't have a lonely and bereft octogenarian woman being "emotional." It would be...un-Islamic!
Oh how I miss Oriana Fallaci. You can almost hear her tearing off the chador and flinging it back in the face of the ayatollah.
How sad. This poor old thing is in love, and only wants a companion with whom to live out her remaining years.
On the other hand, she's old enough to know better than to get mixed up with an Iranian muslim male!
'But the state-linked Iranian Women's News Agency said women need their father's permission to protect them from "emotional" marriage decisions.'
C'mon, she's made it this far.
Only Islam can take a nice story about two old folks reuniting and rekindling the flame of love and turn it into hell on earth.
Why don't Islamic apologists complain about Iran "misunderstanding" Islam? Does anyone of these taquiyya artists know how stupid this makes Islam look? Or how out of touch and primitive it its? You fellows might want to start earning those petrol dollars.........
When I heard him proposing to me once again
So she was proposed to when she was young and missed out on a married life when she was young?
Islam is cruel to women.
But folks this is Islam, the purest of religions that cannot be changed, the religion that calls the Bible corrupt and it represents the greatest model for man for all time.
Boy that thar Angel Gabriel guy sure pulled a fast one Mohammed and sadly we have been paying the price ever since; maybe its time to get a visit from the Angel Gabriel for a little bit more clarification as to what he really said to Mohammed in that cave?
A bit off topic from just above:
I made the comment above this morning concerning the 80 year old Iranian women who needs permission from her father to remarry.
Where is the Angel Gabriel today? Why is he not bringing new messages from God? I think he is a bit overdue. Why does Mohammed claim the last word from the Angel Gabriel?
My thoughts where that it's time to revisit the great communicator,the exalted messenger of God to the Jews, then to the Christians, and then to Mohammed.
I think this might be an interesting topic of inquiry since Because of Gabriel's role as a communicator and mediator between Heaven and Earth. Because Gabriel helped the prophet Daniel interpret his dreams, "those seeking similar aid with their own dream work may petition the Archangel for help". Additionally, because Gabriel announced the births of both John the Baptist and Jesus Christ.
Where has this Angel of communication between God and his followers gone? How could this angel allow all the rantings of Mohammed to stand on behalf of the entity that is the Angiel Gabriel for all this time?
It's only wise, after all. What if some 80-year-old woman (whose intelligence is deficient to that of a man, any man, of course) allows some old geezer without teeth to so turn her head with soft whispers and sweet promises that her emotions overrule her common sense and she makes a mistake in her choice? Why, she could end up regretting the decision for the rest of her life!
Better by far that some 100+ year-old guy with dementia (whom she hasn't laid eyes on in 78 years) makes the decision for her.
Women are not people in Islam. There are just the property of a man. Husband, father, uncle, brother or son. If this story doesn't prove it to you, I don't know what will.
And the words of Prof. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu keep ringing in my ears.
"islam, 14 centuries ago, established an exemplary code for human rights. The major objective of this code is to confer on all human beings dignity and honor, and to eliminate injustice."
islam is insanity...
Words fail me.
In just about any other society on earth, the wedding would already have taken place, with the sentimental lady reporters from the tabloids in full attendance.
Only stupid, thuggish Islam, whenever the tender leaf of human feeling and affirmation of life manages to push up through the concrete despite everything, promptly stamps on it to crush it.
Everybody knows that islamic marriage has absolutely nothing to do with love or companionship and in fact, islam discourages men from becoming too attached to their wives. Wives are sex slaves and domestic servants whose primary functions in life are to provide sexual gratification to their husbands and bear their children. Furthermore, islam stresses the inferiority of women, reducing them to the status of livestock, which brings to mind the time honored islamic tradition of sexual liaisons with genuine livestock. The only advantage for women is that they might live to be raped again but after the savages rape the animals, they cruelly butcher them. If men are too devoted to their wives, they might neglect their islamic duties and temporarily forget their primary purpose in life--total submission to allah.
Allah's slaves were given slaves of their own, women, so they would not resent their bondage to allah. Seems that macho muslim men are quite content to be slaves to allah as long as they have the inferior sex to slap around, rape, imprison, and indiscriminately murder. My advice to this lady would be to stay single. Why voluntarily submit to servitude at this stage of the game?
Hey, the law's the law!
Seriously, this goes beyond being sad and heartless, it's downright disgusting.
I thought, once a Muslim woman became old, the rules for the young no longer applied to her. That she could doff the hijab, niqab, burqa, whatever, and do as she liked with her dress, and her person.
I guess I was wrong, on that one, but it seems like, having lived long enough to turn 80, the old gal would deserve a respite from de boolchit, no?
I was thinking taht perhaps after all she could ask her father permission to marry, she could talk with him with the.... ouija :)
Im sorry I made a typo mistake I wanted to say that perhaps
Stormwarning wrote:
I thought, once a Muslim woman became old, the rules for the young no longer applied to her. That she could doff the hijab, niqab, burqa, whatever, and do as she liked with her dress, and her person.
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Would that it were true. Many Muslim women go essentially from being the property of fathers, to the property of brothers and husbands, to the property of their sons.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali tells the comically grotesque story of her proud mother, abandoned by her husband (Ayaan's father) in Saudi Arabia. All of her adult male relatives were in Somalia and Kenya--yet it was forbidden for her to go out without a male guardian--what to do? She takes her 10-year-old son with her as her "guardian", glaring at any man who might think to challenge the "propriety" of such a situation.
Of course, Ayaan's brother resented this situation, and, like most Muslim boys, was already quite spoiled. So, much of the time, when his mother would call him so she could go out, he would ignore her and keep on playing. She took her humiliation out on her children--not her son, of course, but her daughters--Ayaan and her sister.
Ayaan was strong enough to survive this treatment--her sister, sadly, was not.