One of the favourite ploys of the kuffar is to say that “moderate Muslims must tackle and confront extremism and extremists within their community…” - by which the kuffar mean that they want Muslims to place the aims, ways, agenda and values of the kuffar before their Muslim duty to aid, assist, defend and act honourably toward their brothers and sisters. We should remember what Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala says:
“When they [the deniers] seek compromise, they only desire you to compromise.” 68: 9 Interpretation of Meaning
The kaffir plan to divide Muslims - his ploy, this trick, of the kuffar - is that of appealing to so-called “moderate Muslims”. However, more and more Muslims - Alhamdulillah - are becoming aware of the kaffir plot to divide us by saying that they - the kuffar - are fighting, are at war with, “extremism” and not with Islam and the Muslims. That is, many Muslims are aware that the kuffar are striving to manufacture what they call “moderate Muslims” who adhere to a so-called “Islam” which the kuffar find acceptable.
Hating our enemies is part of our Islam, just as fighting our enemies - using force to remove them from our lands - is part of our Islam. The tame, kaffir-imitating so-called “moderate Muslims” may not like this - it might not fit in with their kaffir-derived vision of life - but that is how it is, for those who refuse to imitate the kuffar and for those who submit only to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala. Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala says:
“Fighting is prescribed for you, even though you may dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike that which is good for you, and that you love that which is bad for you. Yet although you may not know, Allah knows.” 2:216 Interpretation of Meaning
I gather from the article that what the Muslims at MCPAK have in mind is no more smiling taqiyya, no more sly inveiglements and remarks designed to confuse, but rather an entirely unapologetic and forthright statement of what Islam demands, what Islam inculcates, what Islam looks like when the make-up or maquillage is wiped off, after the Infidels have gone home from the Mosque Outreach Night.
Sorry, Hugh it looks like no, absolutely not. From the article:
"We will no longer be part of the deliberate attempt to keep the public confused on the issue of terrorism. We will not be part of the apologetic Muslim leaders who blame their own community"
Well "the community" of believers are out to blame. Who could it be? The clerics? The Quoran? Nope.
On the "Media Jihad" page of the site:
"We all know that in the media Islam = Intolerant, Violent, Homophobic, Anti-Women and that Muslim = Terrorist. How did this picture emerge? And why are Muslims not lobbying the media to counteract this image?"
Notice also the number of links to things about the Jewish lobby being exposed. The video that's posted as the "Reason" is a guy talking about how the oppressed imitates the oppressor. I get the impression he's talking about Muslims imitating westerners.
Trust me, MPACUK is not an ally, but an insidious enemy.
Nice how they forget the war of 1967 when listing "Ireal's Injustices". They call for the end of Isreal's occupation, like true good muslims but do not call for the end of bombings by HAMAS/Palastine and the killing of innocents. Muslims can do no wrong after all. I find their "not anti-semetic" line very hard to swallow in light of this.
They also make the claim that "After the Jews the Muslims would have been next." Is there any historical basis for this? Are they "conveniently forgetting" the well documented Arab-Hitler alliance?
"Sorry, Hugh it looks like no, absolutely not."
-- from a poster above
My comment has been misunderstood. That final "Good" was meant as a comment on MCPAK's decision to be "unapologetic" about Islam, its refusal -- thank god -- to attempt to copy other Muslim groups that try to curry, however transparently for some of us, through feigned expressions of moderation or "moderation," Infidel good will and Infidel trust, in order to continue the masquerade. What is "good" is that any unwillingness or stout refusal of Muslims to play the game that, thanks to Infidel eagerness to believe the absurd in order not to have to believe the too-disturbing obvious, they have hitherto played with such success, is to be welcomed. Lay it all out, like Bin Laden, or the Hamas Charter. Just put it right in front of the Infidels so that they can't continue to ignore the nature, the meaning, the menace, of Islam.
I just don't trust what comes out of their cake holes anymore. Sorry, and that goes for those little, 'virginal' looking muslimettes too. Liars cannot be trusted - period.
More of the blame game. Muslims always blame everyone else for everything they do and everything they fail to do. If they were not trying to deceive us, or if they were even trying to joing the human race, they would have owned up to the fact that violence in every form comes from Islam and is continuously committed against both Muslims and non-Muslims. Violence comes from Islam. And who is still buying that 'oppressed' crap? They're a protected class in the UK and are given, if anything, more opportunitites than anyone else, and still they fail at everything, just like in India. I hate references in the media to how Muslims in India have worse jobs and are poorer. Yeah, because they are never to engage in honest, hard work, because half of them (women) throw their lives away, often under force or physical duress, because they glamorize poverty, and because they have too many kids whom they don't love enough to try to provide decent lives for. Violence comes from Islam. Nobody's ever oppressed Muslims but Islam, and even though that's the case I still blame Muslims for their loserdom ("oppression"). They create it every day.
But what you're saying is also in the Islamic scriptures, it tells the Muslims not to feel inferior towards the kuffar (who was always better off then them) because in the end the Muslims would conquer them or kill the infidel men and rape their women; and if that didn't work the kuffars would burn in hell anyhow.
so yes, self created oppression which calls for more jihad.
Once again: internment & mass-deportations are inevitable if our civilization is to survive.
Hugh wrote: "That final "Good" was meant as a comment on MCPAK's decision to be "unapologetic" about Islam [...] Lay it all out, like Bin Laden, or the Hamas Charter. Just put it right in front of the Infidels so that they can't continue to ignore the nature, the meaning, the menace, of Islam."
I'm afraid that you are wrong, they won't be unapologetic. The article basically says that Muslims are violent because they are "oppressed" (as can be seen from the video and the Guantanamo picture, top left), not because the Quran obliges them to fight offensive Jihad until there is no religion but Islam. What could be more apologetic?
Ah, Yeah. I kind of glanced (very bad habit) saw the gist of the beginning and then the end "good" and misunderstood.
I would understand the skimming if it was one of Hugh's epic posts which requires a dictionary (and perhaps a stiff drink) to fully comprehend but in this case, Hugh only posted one sentence.
Strangest thing about the video was that Stokely Carmichael was not a Muslim.
Cornelius I would not be so sure, as there are a lot of indications to say he could very well be a muslim
#1 He changed his name to Kwame Ture to honor the African leaders Nkrumah and Touré who had become his patrons.
Kwame Nkrumah; a hardline marxist lived in exile in Conakry, Guinea, as the guest of President Ahmed Sékou Touré, who made him honorary co-president of the country.
Ahmed Sékou Ture; Muslim
#2 Kwame Ture (Stokely Carmichael) Went into exile in Guinea where he died 1998
85% of Guinea's population are Muslim.
Whether he was a muslim or ot is not so important, wat I find alarming is the link between marxism and islam, which is grossly overlooked such as the latest riots in Greece.
Many here may be aware of the rioting in Greece but because it is the lefttards who are on the rampage everybody here are over looking the cause and what happened just before the shooting of a youth
Unfortunately many here at Jihad Watch miss the point that we have a war on two fronts, one is the Islamists, and the other is the socialist/marxist front.
Hundreds of migrants waiting to submit asylum applications rioted in central Athens, setting fire to rubbish bins and attacking passing cars.
Protesters said the riot began when one man fell into a nearby canal after authorities told the crowd that no more applications could be submitted. Only a small number of applications can be submitted each week.
It was not immediately clear how the man fell into the canal. Police said he was injured and was taken by ambulance to a hospital. They said they were investigating the incident.
Outraged asylum-seekers began setting fire to rubbish bins and throwing them into the street, and ripped branches off trees to set them alight. A smaller group threw rocks at passing cars, stopping some vehicles and banging on them with their hands. There were no reports of any passers-by being injured.
The riot lasted for about an hour, and riot police who were on standby nearby did not intervene. A fire truck extinguished the blazes.
In October, a human rights group said a Pakistani man was fatally injured when he fell into the same canal.
The group, Stop the War Coalition, said that the man had been trying to escape police after immigrants queuing to submit applications clashed with authorities. Police rejected claims they had any involvement in the man's death and said they had tried to repulse an attempt by a large group of migrants to jump the queue.
Rights groups have often criticised Greece's treatment of illegal immigrants and the living conditions in detention centres.
As the article above mentions "Stop the War Coalition" shoudnt we take a closer look at this sinister group
The Stop the War Coalition is a United Kingdom anti-war group set up on 21 September 2001.
The coalition has opposed the various wars that are claimed to be part of the ongoing war on terrorism. It has been the most prominent group in Britain campaigning against the war in Afghanistan and the Iraq War.
At their initial meeting the Coalition also adopted the slogan 'Against the racist backlash', asserting that a war against Afghanistan would be perceived as an attack on Islam and that Muslims, or those perceived as Muslim, would face racist attacks in Britain if the government joined the war. The Coalition worked closely with the Muslim Association of Britain in organising its demonstrations.
Just a few of its leaders
Tony Benn: British socialist politician
George Galloway: Good friend of the late Uday Hussein,
Yvonne Ridley: Traitor supreme
Andrew Murray: Leader of Communist Party of Britain.
Salma Yaqoob: Spokesperson for Birmingham Central Mosque.
Tariq Ali: critical of American and Israeli foreign policies
Jeremy Bernard Corbyn: is an MP sponsored by the UNISON trade union, and is a committed anti-fascist and calls for no platform to the BNP
The first open event of the "Coalition" was held on 29 October 2002 in the Theater Academy in Athens. The first open event of the "Alliance" was held on 29 October 2002 in the Theater Academy in Athens. The event, attended, in a packed hall, hundreds of people had been invited, among other speakers and Jeremy Corbyn
One year later
Even the crowds at the Thessaloniki protest were far smaller than the 100,000 forecast by organizers like the Stop the War coalition and the Genoa 2001 Initiative.
And if any one has doubts In the video below there is a link between the muslim rioters and the anarchists..at the very end of the video you will see te muslims carrying the Stop the War Coalition logo
Wow ; I almost believed them for a second there ; until I realised that they weren't talking about a B.S lockdown from the apologist camp , but about switching to undiluted islamic calls to arms using the koran as reference .
"We will no longer be part of the deliberate attempt to keep the public confused on the issue of terrorism. We will not be part of the apologetic Muslim leaders who blame their own community"
W--HAT!! Since when do muslim spokesmen blame "their own Communtiy" for terrorism ? They usually blame the mystical "tiny minority of extremists" who are supposedly "un-islamic" therefore I'd assume NOT part of their community.
INFIDELK9: "Kwame Ture (Stokely Carmichael) Went into exile in Guinea where he died 1998"
RESPONSE: Actually, he spent his last years living in the USA. He died of prostate cancer, which he claims was given to him by the US government.
INFIDELK9: "Unfortunately many here at Jihad Watch miss the point that we have a war on two fronts, one is the Islamists, and the other is the socialist/marxist front."
RESPONSE: On the contrary, most of his here are intimately aware of the insidious "Islamo-Left" alliance (a term I take credit for coining).
While Robert Spencer continues to insist this site is non-partisan, he does so mostly for tactical reasons. In fact, he has - over and over here and elsewhere - trumpeted the fallacies of the Left's twin "gospels" of multiculturalism and political-correctness.
..."in this case, Hugh only posted one sentence"...
But that one sentence covers five full lines on my screen, and still requires a dictionary:
inveiglements
maquillage
Plus, he has this "obscure reference" ability (that compares to Dennis Millers's), where, if you are not previously well informed on the subject at hand, and additionally not inquisitive enough to educate yourself with information not readilly available through the main stream sources, you risk getting lost.
And he spells eveything correctly...
I wish I could write half as well
Later
Albert
Actually, he spent his last years living in the USA. He died of prostate cancer, which he claims was given to him by the US government.
Died: November 15, 1998 Conakry, Guinea.
Cornelius: On the contrary, most of us here are intimately aware of the insidious "Islamo-Left" alliance.
So if this is the case, why hasn't anybody yet mentioned anything about the Greek riots, which was obviously started by Pakistanis before escalating into what is now.
Cornelius: While Robert Spencer continues to insist this site is non-partisan, he does so mostly for tactical reasons.
Yes for tactical reasons, Not so sound when the left are holding the flaps of the tent wide open and allowing the camel charge in
We now have riots in Greece that threaten to topple the present government, thus bringing in a leftist government that is more sympathetic towards muslims.
The leader of the opposition is George Papandreou , Panhellenic Socialist Movement, better known as PASOK, also President of the Socialist International
In his second term as Minister of Education, Papandreou was the first politician in Greece to introduce affirmative action, allocating 5% of university posts for the Muslim minority in Thrace
As Foreign Minister he fostered closer relations with Turkey and Albania with which Greece had traditionally hostile relations.
July 2000 Parliament approves the government plan to build an Islamic centre and mosque in Peania. According to the plan, King Fahd of Saudi Arabia will finance the building of a mosque.
April 2003 Asked why construction hasn't begun in Peania, foreign ministry spokesman Panos Beglitis says the government has repeatedly called on Arab ambassadors to hurry up. Foreign Minister George Papandreou announces the government's pledge to build a mosque in time for the 2004 Olympic Games.
August 2003 Peania Mayor Paraskevas Papakostopoulos and the entire city council say they will fight the decision to build the mosque in their backyard. They appeal to the Council of State - Greece's highest administrative court.
September 2003 The Greek Orthodox Church comes out against the plan for a mosque in Peania, a suburb close to the Athens international airport. He calls on the government to change the location of the planned mosque because he is concerned that its dome and a minaret will send the wrong message about Greece - a Christian country - to visitors flying into the airport.
Foreign ministry spokesman Thanos Beglitis says the government has not and will not back down. "We remain firm on our position about the creation of the mosque in Peania."
Papandreou tells the London Guardian that the mosque will be built "in the spirit of the multicultural democratic Europe of which Greece is a part". He says that "migration has made the necessity for a mosque even greater because Athens' Muslim population has got that much bigger".
July 2004 Foreign ministry spokesman George Koumoutsakos (PASOK0)says the mosque project is in "a final stage now and only bureaucratic procedures are outstanding".
March 2006 In a report, EU's Human Rights Commissioner Alvaro Gil-Robles expresses his dissatisfaction over the fact that Muslims in Athens are forced to "meet in secret in places unsuitable for prayer".
May 2006 As many as 10,000 local immigrant Muslims sign a petition demanding the creation of a mosque in Athens. Representatives of the Muslim Union of Greece meet with the education ministry's special secretary Athanasios Kyriazis to discuss the matter.
November 2006 After a six-hour heated debate, parliament approves a bill authorising the construction of a mosque in Votanikos, on the outskirts of the municipality of Athens. It will be financed entirely by the Greek government.
My mistake. Carmichael did indeed die in Guinea. He had returned to the States from his self-imposed exile and lived here for a number of years, but as you say, he expired in Guinea.
INFIDELK9: "So if this is the case, why hasn't anybody yet mentioned anything about the Greek riots, which was obviously started by Pakistanis before escalating into what is now."
RESPONSE: My understanding is that the Greek riots started as a result of the killing of a Greek teen by police. Can you present any evidence that "Pakistanis" started the riots?
INFIDELK9: "Yes for tactical reasons, Not so sound when the left are holding the flaps of the tent wide open and allowing the camel charge in"
RESPONSE: Robert Spencer has repeatedly called for restrictions on Muslim immigration into the West. Most of us here at JW feel the same and have absolutely no difference with you on this issue.
Hundreds of migrants waiting to submit asylum applications rioted in central Athens, setting fire to rubbish bins and attacking passing cars. Protesters said the riot began when one man fell into a nearby canal after authorities told the crowd that no more applications could be submitted. Only a small number of applications can be submitted each week.
It was not immediately clear how the man fell into the canal. Police said he was injured and was taken by ambulance to a hospital. They said they were investigating the incident. Outraged asylum-seekers began setting fire to rubbish bins and throwing them into the street, and ripped branches off trees to set them alight. A smaller group threw rocks at passing cars, stopping some vehicles and banging on them with their hands. There were no reports of any passers-by being injured. The riot lasted for about an hour, and riot police who were on standby nearby did not intervene. A fire truck extinguished the blazes.
In October, a human rights group said a Pakistani man was fatally injured when he fell into the same canal. The group, Stop the War Coalition, said that the man had been trying to escape police after immigrants queuing to submit applications clashed with authorities. Police rejected claims they had any involvement in the man’s death and said they had tried to repulse an attempt by a large group of migrants to jump the queue.
Rights groups have often criticised Greece’s treatment of illegal immigrants and the living conditions in detention centres. Greece approved only 140 of the 20,692 asylum applications made in 2007, according to the UN refugee agency. Tens of thousands of illegal migrants enter Greece each year. Many attempt dangerous sea crossings from nearby Turkey or brave minefields to make their way in.
And here’s the low-down. In October a Pakistani died, possibly by drowning, during an immigrant riot outside an Athens asylum processing centre. Last Thursday, it would appear, another such riot occurred, with some poor, dishevelled soul falling into the same patch of water.
He survived. But the peace and quiet of Athens did not.
Leftists/anarchists/students immediately organised their own riot in sympathy, and a boy was duly shot three times by a trigger-happy but probably very frightened policeman. More riots. Everywhere.
Greek government looks rocky. The MSM take the opportunity to banish the immigrant factor from their coverage, which is only what we have grown to expect.
Now Cornelius why dont you go and look at the video at 2.09 and you will see the muslims are wearing the red fascist Stop the War Coalition
The video depicts the funeral of the victim Mohammed Ashraf who, according to some of his relatives who found him under a bridge, slipped to his death while taking a piss
Like I say and have said many times before, we should more closely at what the left are doing, and being non-partisan in this conflict can be very dangerous.
I'm on your side in terms of identifying the Left as a fifth column for the Islamists...and I'm in no way justifying the destruction wrought by the Greek rioters, but your deception by omitting the link between the rioting and the police shooting of 15-year old Alexandros Grigoropoulos indicates to me you're not being entirely straight with us.
Oh, this announcement by MPACUK clears up everything. Its Stokley Carmichael that is responsible for jihadist violence throughout the world. All this time I've suffered the delusion it had something to do with a guy named Mohammed. I see the light, brother.
Sounds just like these guys:
The Kaffir Appeal to “Moderate Muslims”:
One of the favourite ploys of the kuffar is to say that “moderate Muslims must tackle and confront extremism and extremists within their community…” - by which the kuffar mean that they want Muslims to place the aims, ways, agenda and values of the kuffar before their Muslim duty to aid, assist, defend and act honourably toward their brothers and sisters. We should remember what Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala says:
“When they [the deniers] seek compromise, they only desire you to compromise.” 68: 9 Interpretation of Meaning
The kaffir plan to divide Muslims - his ploy, this trick, of the kuffar - is that of appealing to so-called “moderate Muslims”. However, more and more Muslims - Alhamdulillah - are becoming aware of the kaffir plot to divide us by saying that they - the kuffar - are fighting, are at war with, “extremism” and not with Islam and the Muslims. That is, many Muslims are aware that the kuffar are striving to manufacture what they call “moderate Muslims” who adhere to a so-called “Islam” which the kuffar find acceptable.
Hating our enemies is part of our Islam, just as fighting our enemies - using force to remove them from our lands - is part of our Islam. The tame, kaffir-imitating so-called “moderate Muslims” may not like this - it might not fit in with their kaffir-derived vision of life - but that is how it is, for those who refuse to imitate the kuffar and for those who submit only to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala. Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala says:
“Fighting is prescribed for you, even though you may dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike that which is good for you, and that you love that which is bad for you. Yet although you may not know, Allah knows.” 2:216 Interpretation of Meaning
From http://naseehah.wordpress.com/spying-for-the-kuffar/
I gather from the article that what the Muslims at MCPAK have in mind is no more smiling taqiyya, no more sly inveiglements and remarks designed to confuse, but rather an entirely unapologetic and forthright statement of what Islam demands, what Islam inculcates, what Islam looks like when the make-up or maquillage is wiped off, after the Infidels have gone home from the Mosque Outreach Night.
Good.
Sorry, Hugh it looks like no, absolutely not. From the article:
"We will no longer be part of the deliberate attempt to keep the public confused on the issue of terrorism. We will not be part of the apologetic Muslim leaders who blame their own community"
Well "the community" of believers are out to blame. Who could it be? The clerics? The Quoran? Nope.
On the "Media Jihad" page of the site:
"We all know that in the media Islam = Intolerant, Violent, Homophobic, Anti-Women and that Muslim = Terrorist. How did this picture emerge? And why are Muslims not lobbying the media to counteract this image?"
Notice also the number of links to things about the Jewish lobby being exposed. The video that's posted as the "Reason" is a guy talking about how the oppressed imitates the oppressor. I get the impression he's talking about Muslims imitating westerners.
Trust me, MPACUK is not an ally, but an insidious enemy.
Or how about this little image embedded in their rotating banner.
http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:zgYWkb69wsOl6M:http://bp1.blogger.com/_0Fb6DSzBQUI/RgVzwisE2rI/AAAAAAAAAe0/83ZFXEsWa7M/s400/palestine.jpg
Nice how they forget the war of 1967 when listing "Ireal's Injustices". They call for the end of Isreal's occupation, like true good muslims but do not call for the end of bombings by HAMAS/Palastine and the killing of innocents. Muslims can do no wrong after all. I find their "not anti-semetic" line very hard to swallow in light of this.
They also make the claim that "After the Jews the Muslims would have been next." Is there any historical basis for this? Are they "conveniently forgetting" the well documented Arab-Hitler alliance?
FOOLSTER41: "Trust me, MPACUK is not an ally, but an insidious enemy."
I don't think Hugh made any inference whatsoever that the MPACUK was anything but an enemy.
"Sorry, Hugh it looks like no, absolutely not."
-- from a poster above
My comment has been misunderstood. That final "Good" was meant as a comment on MCPAK's decision to be "unapologetic" about Islam, its refusal -- thank god -- to attempt to copy other Muslim groups that try to curry, however transparently for some of us, through feigned expressions of moderation or "moderation," Infidel good will and Infidel trust, in order to continue the masquerade. What is "good" is that any unwillingness or stout refusal of Muslims to play the game that, thanks to Infidel eagerness to believe the absurd in order not to have to believe the too-disturbing obvious, they have hitherto played with such success, is to be welcomed. Lay it all out, like Bin Laden, or the Hamas Charter. Just put it right in front of the Infidels so that they can't continue to ignore the nature, the meaning, the menace, of Islam.
Strangest thing about the video was that Stokely Carmichael was not a Muslim.
I just don't trust what comes out of their cake holes anymore. Sorry, and that goes for those little, 'virginal' looking muslimettes too. Liars cannot be trusted - period.
Ah, Yeah. I kind of glanced (very bad habit) saw the gist of the beginning and then the end "good" and misunderstood. Apologies.
More of the blame game. Muslims always blame everyone else for everything they do and everything they fail to do. If they were not trying to deceive us, or if they were even trying to joing the human race, they would have owned up to the fact that violence in every form comes from Islam and is continuously committed against both Muslims and non-Muslims. Violence comes from Islam. And who is still buying that 'oppressed' crap? They're a protected class in the UK and are given, if anything, more opportunitites than anyone else, and still they fail at everything, just like in India. I hate references in the media to how Muslims in India have worse jobs and are poorer. Yeah, because they are never to engage in honest, hard work, because half of them (women) throw their lives away, often under force or physical duress, because they glamorize poverty, and because they have too many kids whom they don't love enough to try to provide decent lives for. Violence comes from Islam. Nobody's ever oppressed Muslims but Islam, and even though that's the case I still blame Muslims for their loserdom ("oppression"). They create it every day.
jdamn, truer words were never spoken.
But what you're saying is also in the Islamic scriptures, it tells the Muslims not to feel inferior towards the kuffar (who was always better off then them) because in the end the Muslims would conquer them or kill the infidel men and rape their women; and if that didn't work the kuffars would burn in hell anyhow.
so yes, self created oppression which calls for more jihad.
Once again: internment & mass-deportations are inevitable if our civilization is to survive.
Hugh wrote: "That final "Good" was meant as a comment on MCPAK's decision to be "unapologetic" about Islam [...] Lay it all out, like Bin Laden, or the Hamas Charter. Just put it right in front of the Infidels so that they can't continue to ignore the nature, the meaning, the menace, of Islam."
I'm afraid that you are wrong, they won't be unapologetic. The article basically says that Muslims are violent because they are "oppressed" (as can be seen from the video and the Guantanamo picture, top left), not because the Quran obliges them to fight offensive Jihad until there is no religion but Islam. What could be more apologetic?
Ah, Yeah. I kind of glanced (very bad habit) saw the gist of the beginning and then the end "good" and misunderstood.
I would understand the skimming if it was one of Hugh's epic posts which requires a dictionary (and perhaps a stiff drink) to fully comprehend but in this case, Hugh only posted one sentence.
Posted by: Cornelius
Strangest thing about the video was that Stokely Carmichael was not a Muslim.
Cornelius I would not be so sure, as there are a lot of indications to say he could very well be a muslim
#1 He changed his name to Kwame Ture to honor the African leaders Nkrumah and Touré who had become his patrons.
Kwame Nkrumah; a hardline marxist lived in exile in Conakry, Guinea, as the guest of President Ahmed Sékou Touré, who made him honorary co-president of the country.
Ahmed Sékou Ture; Muslim
#2 Kwame Ture (Stokely Carmichael) Went into exile in Guinea where he died 1998
85% of Guinea's population are Muslim.
Whether he was a muslim or ot is not so important, wat I find alarming is the link between marxism and islam, which is grossly overlooked such as the latest riots in Greece.
Many here may be aware of the rioting in Greece but because it is the lefttards who are on the rampage everybody here are over looking the cause and what happened just before the shooting of a youth
Unfortunately many here at Jihad Watch miss the point that we have a war on two fronts, one is the Islamists, and the other is the socialist/marxist front.
Asylum seekers riot in Athens
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jW3OkF5W4p7I7qXcSUuUJhBQ_ZXA
Hundreds of migrants waiting to submit asylum applications rioted in central Athens, setting fire to rubbish bins and attacking passing cars.
Protesters said the riot began when one man fell into a nearby canal after authorities told the crowd that no more applications could be submitted. Only a small number of applications can be submitted each week.
It was not immediately clear how the man fell into the canal. Police said he was injured and was taken by ambulance to a hospital. They said they were investigating the incident.
Outraged asylum-seekers began setting fire to rubbish bins and throwing them into the street, and ripped branches off trees to set them alight. A smaller group threw rocks at passing cars, stopping some vehicles and banging on them with their hands. There were no reports of any passers-by being injured.
The riot lasted for about an hour, and riot police who were on standby nearby did not intervene. A fire truck extinguished the blazes.
In October, a human rights group said a Pakistani man was fatally injured when he fell into the same canal.
The group, Stop the War Coalition, said that the man had been trying to escape police after immigrants queuing to submit applications clashed with authorities. Police rejected claims they had any involvement in the man's death and said they had tried to repulse an attempt by a large group of migrants to jump the queue.
Rights groups have often criticised Greece's treatment of illegal immigrants and the living conditions in detention centres.
As the article above mentions "Stop the War Coalition" shoudnt we take a closer look at this sinister group
The Stop the War Coalition is a United Kingdom anti-war group set up on 21 September 2001.
The coalition has opposed the various wars that are claimed to be part of the ongoing war on terrorism. It has been the most prominent group in Britain campaigning against the war in Afghanistan and the Iraq War.
At their initial meeting the Coalition also adopted the slogan 'Against the racist backlash', asserting that a war against Afghanistan would be perceived as an attack on Islam and that Muslims, or those perceived as Muslim, would face racist attacks in Britain if the government joined the war. The Coalition worked closely with the Muslim Association of Britain in organising its demonstrations.
Just a few of its leaders
Tony Benn: British socialist politician
George Galloway: Good friend of the late Uday Hussein,
Yvonne Ridley: Traitor supreme
Andrew Murray: Leader of Communist Party of Britain.
Salma Yaqoob: Spokesperson for Birmingham Central Mosque.
Tariq Ali: critical of American and Israeli foreign policies
Jeremy Bernard Corbyn: is an MP sponsored by the UNISON trade union, and is a committed anti-fascist and calls for no platform to the BNP
The first open event of the "Coalition" was held on 29 October 2002 in the Theater Academy in Athens. The first open event of the "Alliance" was held on 29 October 2002 in the Theater Academy in Athens. The event, attended, in a packed hall, hundreds of people had been invited, among other speakers and Jeremy Corbyn
One year later
Even the crowds at the Thessaloniki protest were far smaller than the 100,000 forecast by organizers like the Stop the War coalition and the Genoa 2001 Initiative.
http://thessaloniki.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=en&article_id=12263
And here in this photo below taken at the latest riots we see the link
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/galleries/1514788/0157110455085.jpg
For those who need help, look at the flag
Thats right, the black and red anarchy flag
And if any one has doubts In the video below there is a link between the muslim rioters and the anarchists..at the very end of the video you will see te muslims carrying the Stop the War Coalition logo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7769071.stm
Stop the War Coalition logo
http://www.antiwarresearch.info/images/stwc_logo.png
Traitors Galore
http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/mar2008/l1040769.jpg
Wow ; I almost believed them for a second there ; until I realised that they weren't talking about a B.S lockdown from the apologist camp , but about switching to undiluted islamic calls to arms using the koran as reference .
"We will no longer be part of the deliberate attempt to keep the public confused on the issue of terrorism. We will not be part of the apologetic Muslim leaders who blame their own community"
W--HAT!! Since when do muslim spokesmen blame "their own Communtiy" for terrorism ? They usually blame the mystical "tiny minority of extremists" who are supposedly "un-islamic" therefore I'd assume NOT part of their community.
"Most Muslim groups in the UK are still silent, or worse apologising..."
Muslims have apologized for violence? RS, are you slacking off 'cause this is the first I've heard of any muslim apologizing...
INFIDELK9: "Kwame Ture (Stokely Carmichael) Went into exile in Guinea where he died 1998"
RESPONSE: Actually, he spent his last years living in the USA. He died of prostate cancer, which he claims was given to him by the US government.
INFIDELK9: "Unfortunately many here at Jihad Watch miss the point that we have a war on two fronts, one is the Islamists, and the other is the socialist/marxist front."
RESPONSE: On the contrary, most of his here are intimately aware of the insidious "Islamo-Left" alliance (a term I take credit for coining).
While Robert Spencer continues to insist this site is non-partisan, he does so mostly for tactical reasons. In fact, he has - over and over here and elsewhere - trumpeted the fallacies of the Left's twin "gospels" of multiculturalism and political-correctness.
MPACUK: "We will no longer be part of the deliberate attempt to keep the public confused on the issue of terrorism"
and if you believe this one, they will tell you another one
no trust at all
..."in this case, Hugh only posted one sentence"...
But that one sentence covers five full lines on my screen, and still requires a dictionary:
inveiglements
maquillage
Plus, he has this "obscure reference" ability (that compares to Dennis Millers's), where, if you are not previously well informed on the subject at hand, and additionally not inquisitive enough to educate yourself with information not readilly available through the main stream sources, you risk getting lost.
And he spells eveything correctly...
I wish I could write half as well
Later
Albert
Posted by: Cornelius
Actually, he spent his last years living in the USA. He died of prostate cancer, which he claims was given to him by the US government.
Died: November 15, 1998 Conakry, Guinea.
Cornelius: On the contrary, most of us here are intimately aware of the insidious "Islamo-Left" alliance.
So if this is the case, why hasn't anybody yet mentioned anything about the Greek riots, which was obviously started by Pakistanis before escalating into what is now.
Cornelius: While Robert Spencer continues to insist this site is non-partisan, he does so mostly for tactical reasons.
Yes for tactical reasons, Not so sound when the left are holding the flaps of the tent wide open and allowing the camel charge in
We now have riots in Greece that threaten to topple the present government, thus bringing in a leftist government that is more sympathetic towards muslims.
The leader of the opposition is George Papandreou , Panhellenic Socialist Movement, better known as PASOK, also President of the Socialist International
In his second term as Minister of Education, Papandreou was the first politician in Greece to introduce affirmative action, allocating 5% of university posts for the Muslim minority in Thrace
As Foreign Minister he fostered closer relations with Turkey and Albania with which Greece had traditionally hostile relations.
July 2000 Parliament approves the government plan to build an Islamic centre and mosque in Peania. According to the plan, King Fahd of Saudi Arabia will finance the building of a mosque.
April 2003 Asked why construction hasn't begun in Peania, foreign ministry spokesman Panos Beglitis says the government has repeatedly called on Arab ambassadors to hurry up. Foreign Minister George Papandreou announces the government's pledge to build a mosque in time for the 2004 Olympic Games.
August 2003 Peania Mayor Paraskevas Papakostopoulos and the entire city council say they will fight the decision to build the mosque in their backyard. They appeal to the Council of State - Greece's highest administrative court.
September 2003 The Greek Orthodox Church comes out against the plan for a mosque in Peania, a suburb close to the Athens international airport. He calls on the government to change the location of the planned mosque because he is concerned that its dome and a minaret will send the wrong message about Greece - a Christian country - to visitors flying into the airport.
Foreign ministry spokesman Thanos Beglitis says the government has not and will not back down. "We remain firm on our position about the creation of the mosque in Peania."
Papandreou tells the London Guardian that the mosque will be built "in the spirit of the multicultural democratic Europe of which Greece is a part". He says that "migration has made the necessity for a mosque even greater because Athens' Muslim population has got that much bigger".
July 2004 Foreign ministry spokesman George Koumoutsakos (PASOK0)says the mosque project is in "a final stage now and only bureaucratic procedures are outstanding".
March 2006 In a report, EU's Human Rights Commissioner Alvaro Gil-Robles expresses his dissatisfaction over the fact that Muslims in Athens are forced to "meet in secret in places unsuitable for prayer".
May 2006 As many as 10,000 local immigrant Muslims sign a petition demanding the creation of a mosque in Athens. Representatives of the Muslim Union of Greece meet with the education ministry's special secretary Athanasios Kyriazis to discuss the matter.
November 2006 After a six-hour heated debate, parliament approves a bill authorising the construction of a mosque in Votanikos, on the outskirts of the municipality of Athens. It will be financed entirely by the Greek government.
InfidelK9,
My mistake. Carmichael did indeed die in Guinea. He had returned to the States from his self-imposed exile and lived here for a number of years, but as you say, he expired in Guinea.
INFIDELK9: "So if this is the case, why hasn't anybody yet mentioned anything about the Greek riots, which was obviously started by Pakistanis before escalating into what is now."
RESPONSE: My understanding is that the Greek riots started as a result of the killing of a Greek teen by police. Can you present any evidence that "Pakistanis" started the riots?
INFIDELK9: "Yes for tactical reasons, Not so sound when the left are holding the flaps of the tent wide open and allowing the camel charge in"
RESPONSE: Robert Spencer has repeatedly called for restrictions on Muslim immigration into the West. Most of us here at JW feel the same and have absolutely no difference with you on this issue.
Asylum seekers riot in Athens
Hundreds of migrants waiting to submit asylum applications rioted in central Athens, setting fire to rubbish bins and attacking passing cars. Protesters said the riot began when one man fell into a nearby canal after authorities told the crowd that no more applications could be submitted. Only a small number of applications can be submitted each week.
It was not immediately clear how the man fell into the canal. Police said he was injured and was taken by ambulance to a hospital. They said they were investigating the incident. Outraged asylum-seekers began setting fire to rubbish bins and throwing them into the street, and ripped branches off trees to set them alight. A smaller group threw rocks at passing cars, stopping some vehicles and banging on them with their hands. There were no reports of any passers-by being injured. The riot lasted for about an hour, and riot police who were on standby nearby did not intervene. A fire truck extinguished the blazes.
In October, a human rights group said a Pakistani man was fatally injured when he fell into the same canal. The group, Stop the War Coalition, said that the man had been trying to escape police after immigrants queuing to submit applications clashed with authorities. Police rejected claims they had any involvement in the man’s death and said they had tried to repulse an attempt by a large group of migrants to jump the queue.
Rights groups have often criticised Greece’s treatment of illegal immigrants and the living conditions in detention centres. Greece approved only 140 of the 20,692 asylum applications made in 2007, according to the UN refugee agency. Tens of thousands of illegal migrants enter Greece each year. Many attempt dangerous sea crossings from nearby Turkey or brave minefields to make their way in.
And here’s the low-down. In October a Pakistani died, possibly by drowning, during an immigrant riot outside an Athens asylum processing centre. Last Thursday, it would appear, another such riot occurred, with some poor, dishevelled soul falling into the same patch of water.
He survived. But the peace and quiet of Athens did not.
Leftists/anarchists/students immediately organised their own riot in sympathy, and a boy was duly shot three times by a trigger-happy but probably very frightened policeman. More riots. Everywhere.
Greek government looks rocky. The MSM take the opportunity to banish the immigrant factor from their coverage, which is only what we have grown to expect.
Now Cornelius why dont you go and look at the video at 2.09 and you will see the muslims are wearing the red fascist Stop the War Coalition
The video depicts the funeral of the victim Mohammed Ashraf who, according to some of his relatives who found him under a bridge, slipped to his death while taking a piss
http://libcom.org/news/thousands-march-athens-asylum-seeker-killed-police
http://www.athensnews.gr/athweb/nathens.print_unique?e=C&f=13311&m=A14&aa=1&eidos=S
Like I say and have said many times before, we should more closely at what the left are doing, and being non-partisan in this conflict can be very dangerous.
InfidelK9,
I'm on your side in terms of identifying the Left as a fifth column for the Islamists...and I'm in no way justifying the destruction wrought by the Greek rioters, but your deception by omitting the link between the rioting and the police shooting of 15-year old Alexandros Grigoropoulos indicates to me you're not being entirely straight with us.
Oh, this announcement by MPACUK clears up everything. Its Stokley Carmichael that is responsible for jihadist violence throughout the world. All this time I've suffered the delusion it had something to do with a guy named Mohammed. I see the light, brother.