Mumbai in the U.S.? Fort Dix suspects were training for "jihad"

So says informant Besnik Bakalli, and he doesn't mean an interior spiritual struggle. Fort Dix Jihad Update: "Informant: Fort Dix suspects trained for 'jihad,'" by Geoff Mulvihill for Associated Press, December 1 (thanks to duh swami):

CAMDEN, N.J. (AP) -- An FBI informant testified Monday at the trial of five men accused of plotting to kill soldiers at the Army's Fort Dix that a trip they took to Pennsylvania's Pocono Mountains was intended as training for a holy war.

Besnik Bakalli (BES'-nik bahk-AHL'-ee), an illegal immigrant from Albania, said he had hoped the trip in February 2007 with some of the defendants and other men would merely be a relaxing vacation.

Deputy U.S. Attorney William Fitzpatrick asked him what the trip turned out to be.

"Training, for jihad," Bakalli said.

He said the men shopped for guns, went to firing ranges and played paintball during their week in the mountains.

He also said they talked constantly about Islam, war between the Muslim world and America, guns, and their respect for Osama bin Laden....

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http://jihadwatch.org/archives/017327.php
Feds: Miami terror cell practiced with paintball
“They say now that they only pledged loyalty to Al-Qaeda to get money. From Associated Press:”

http://jihadwatch.org/archives/000927.php

Witness: Defendant in Virginia jihad trial trained with terror group

“They weren't just playing paintball. Note also that they were recruited based on an Islamic religious appeal, right in Virginia. From AP:
Just weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks, three Americans spent a month on a remote Pakistani mountaintop, training with a militant Islamic group, AK-47 assault rifles and anti-aircraft guns and hoping to eventually fight in Afghanistan against U.S. troops, one of the men testified Tuesday.
Khwaja Mahmood Hasan described the scene during the trial of four members of what prosecutors call a Virginia-based "jihad network."

http://jihadwatch.org/archives/021363.php

Toronto jihadists: "There was clear, overt, military context to the training"

More paintball jihad, as we saw a few years ago in Virginia, with CAIR rep Randall Ismail Royer. "Paintball was practice, says terror-cell mole," by Isabel Teotonio for the Toronto Star, June 1

I knew terrorists have something in common - paintball!

I hope Obama will ban paintball and everything will be fine again...

I say we have like surviver juhadist island and give them live ammo

Welcome to the Police State: 20,000 uniformed troops inside U.S. by 2011

The government cannot stop the flow of thousands of illegals each day across the Arizona border, yet they tell us they'll be able to adequately cover the land area of the US with 20000 troops. What a joke. According to the last statistic I saw there were 20000 illegal entries a week, just in Arizona.

In a country as large as the US, they are extremely unlikely to be deployed at the right time or in the right place to stop anything when it really matters.

If we are ever to be a country of responsible citizens again, how about allowing us to take some responsibility for ourselves? There are currently around 60 MILLION private gun owners in the US. Why not encourage more responsibility and training among the population, instead of continually trying to disarm us and make us more dependent on the government, while stretching government resources ever thinner?

I would rather see a system for encouraging the safe, responsible use of firearms, the training and coordination of private citizens, than an over-reliance on active duty military, or National Guard.

"The Plan" as currently outlined by Rhom Emanuel

( http://www.amazon.com/Plan-Big-Ideas-America/dp/1586484125/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228168682&sr=8-1 )

has a number of reasonable ideas, but calls for disaster response. Shouldn't we be concentrating on prevention too? As a nation, we should let the jihadist nutcases know they stand a good chance of being killed by every potential victim they see in the US. We should make it more likely to be a disaster for the jihadists than for us.

I would much rather have all my neighbors at the ready, than depend on a bunch of armed, blue helmeted foreigners with a near perfect record of screwing up every country and every engagement they've ever been in.


You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass. (Explaining one of the reasons the Japanese choose not to invade the continental US during World War II.) - Admiral Yamamoto

Oops, posted that last one on the wrong thread...scuse me.

I have to wonder if the site referred to wasn't in the Poconos but rather even further north in Wayne county in the Endless Mountains region. I had read before of some stupid Islamic terrorist camp loacated in Sherman, Pennsylvania, which is on the New York/Pennsylvania border, though perhaps this was indeed a separate locale in the Poconos these Bozos went to.

Wellington,

Perhaps you were thinking of the place mentioned here?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6625

Trace: Thanks for the article. The one in the Catskills would be yet another place. Could be three all together-----in the Poconos (Monroe County area), Endless Mountains (Wayne County) and Catskills (Greene, Ulster, Delaware counties). I suppose we should assume more rather than fewer and allow ourselves a bonus if less than we suspect. One thing's for certain and that is that the Islamic bastards have no respect for America as presently constituted and entertain delusions about turning America into some damn Islamic Republic. That will never happen even if the US government fails the people completely because in this country the folks will ultimately take things into their own hands. Of this I have no doubt. Respecting many European countries, however, I fear they may have become too docile (and stupid) to save themselves. Hope I'm wrong.

Thank heavens for journalists who do still, sometimes, quote just what people said.

That way, the I-word and the J-word got into this AP article.

Note the quotes round 'jihad' in the headline:

"Informant: Fort Dix suspects trained for 'jihad,'"

but then go down and read from the article:


QUOTE "Deputy U.S. Attorney William Fitzpatrick asked him what the trip turned out to be.

"Training, for jihad," Bakalli said.

'He said the men shopped for guns, went to firing ranges and played paintball during their week in the mountains.

"He also said they talked constantly about Islam, war between the Muslim world and America, guns, and their respect for Osama bin Laden...."

'Training, for JIHAD'.

'They talked constantly about ISLAM'...END QUOTE

No matter how the thought police spin it, the ordinary person reads those paragraphs and the words 'jihad' and 'Islam' go into their memory files in inextricable association with other words - words like 'guns' 'firing ranges' and 'war'.

Albanians, mind you. The same Albanians whom the US and the UK criminals helped butcher Serb civilians and brutally eradicate Christianity from Kosovo in a never-ending dhimmi effort to please the Muslims. And Fort Dix was the site where Clinton and his sociopaths held a "warm welcome" ceremony for Albanian "refugees" even as the American and English war criminals were crucifying Serbia.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.