Muslim Congressman's Hajj paid for by Muslim Brotherhood front group

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Recipient of Ikhwan largesse

The Muslim Brotherhood "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions." -- "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America," by Mohamed Akram, May 19, 1991.

What does that have to do with Congressman Ellison? Everything. The Muslim American Society paid for his Hajj. And what is the Muslim American Society? The Muslim Brotherhood.

"In recent years, the U.S. Brotherhood operated under the name Muslim American Society, according to documents and interviews. One of the nation's major Islamic groups, it was incorporated in Illinois in 1993 after a contentious debate among Brotherhood members." -- Chicago Tribune, 2004.

Imagine if a conservative Congressman had taken a trip that had been paid for by a Christian group that was, according to one of its own documents, dedicated to "eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house" so that Christian law would replace the U.S. Constitution. I expect we would hear more of an outcry than we are hearing about this.

"Ellison: Hajj was transformative," by Mitch Anderson for the Minneapolis/St. Paul Star Tribune, December 18 (thanks to T.K.):

WASHINGTON - There was no fanfare, no press release when Keith Ellison made the pilgrimage to the Muslim holy city of Mecca last week....

Why not? There should have been a big media circus over it.

While he consulted the State Department over any potential danger, Ellison said, he wasn't worried about his safety. He traveled mainly with fellow members of his Minneapolis mosque; no security guards went along. His expenses were paid for by the Muslim American Society of Minnesota.

Ellison said he'd like to make the journey again with his family. His wife is not a Muslim, but their four children are being raised as Muslims....

The Star Tribune doesn't mention that non-Muslims aren't allowed into Mecca, so that what Ellison is saying is that he wants to convert his wife to Islam and then go on the Hajj with her.

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WOOOOOO wait a minute here forget haj or muslim for a minute this is illegal.steveson just went to jail for excepring gifts i believe you cannot except over 50 dollars in gifts.
Why isn't this PART OF THE NEWS STORY .
Now on the brotherhood part they are classified as a terror group why is this allowed.
Man as A LIBERAL IT AMAZES ME HOW DEM CTIMINAL ACTS ARE IGNORED WHILE REPS ARE CRUCIFIED FOR SAYING WORDS LIKE THE STROM THERMAN THING.

Exactly HOW will Ellison get re-elected? Mass hypnosis? Liberal guilt? Minnesota madness? Deliberate ignorance?

Time to get the Ruby Slippers, Toto. We are not in Kansas.

"Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means ‘submission’. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy. Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages – at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. He advised on matters of slavery, but never advised to liberate slaves. Islam has no other morality than the advancement of Islam. There is no moderate Muslim" You cannot reason with Islam or fight against it with democratic rules. Only a system with a totalitarian political ideology like Communism can confront the Islamic insurgence and expansion. Unless majority of the just world and United Nations have the courage to expose / ban Quoran as a literature that incites extreme violence and destruction of non muslims, unless muslims denounce these passages as offensive to humanity , followers of Islam will keep perprating heinous crimes against humanity, will keep on expanding their influence. Democtatic countries will be defeated by Islam as Muslims living in democratic countries use democracy to further the cause of Islam .And in the end world will be left with one Islamic Caliphate, and a non Muslim Communist country like China. In the end it will be their fight.

Again Islam gets a pass and yet we're told by the ever self-pitying, chronically complaining Muslim community in America and around the world that Islam is unfairly singled out for criticism. What a pain in the ass Islam is.

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Did the Tribune delete some of the content quoted by Robert in the original post? There is now nothing mentioned in the article about the MAS paying his way. If this was indeed in the original as posted, why did the Tribune remove it? Robert, I hope you saved a screen copy of the original.

Go get him, guys!

Wouldn't it be ironic if the Minneapolis MAS, Keith Ellison, and the guys being investigated currently in Minneapolis for recruiting Somalis to fight jihad were all associated???

Careylj,

Page 2.....

"While he consulted the State Department over any potential danger, Ellison said, he wasn't worried about his safety. He traveled mainly with fellow members of his Minneapolis mosque; no security guards went along. His expenses were paid for by the Muslim American Society of Minnesota."

"Ellison: Hajj Was Transformative."

Well, that's just GREAT!

I'm so happy to hear it. Now maybe we can get this U.S.A. stealth jihad thing rolling in a big way.

But, wait, from what and to what was Ellison transformed?

I must have missed that part in the original news-piece. Maybe we'll find out in all the follow-up media reports that will come later ..................

In the "Stealth Jihad" a "Muslim Brotherhood" OPEN RELATIONSHIP with a Muslim U.S. Congressman is a victory for them and another example of how they ,LIKE HITLER DID in Germany ,USE DEMOCRACY Against itself!

As a Congressman , Ellison had to take an Oath COMMITTING "True Faith and Allegience" to the United States.

His RELATIONSHIP with the "Muslim Brotherhood's" American Arm, the MAS, creates ISLAM 'Related' doubts about the PRIMACY of his CONFLICTING OATHS.

Ellison is guilty of sedition and treason!

CHOI wrote:

"As a Congressman , Ellison had to take an Oath COMMITTING "True Faith and Allegience" to the United States."

Does Ellison's oath count if he swore on the Koran?

Slightly OT, but good news: Rep. Frank Wolf from VA's 10th District signed on to a letter from Sue Myrick to AIG asking them not to engage in Sharia finance. We have another good guy in our camp.

He also asked the State Department to investigate a Saudi madrassa in VA for the 5th time, since the DoE is apparently failing us, or really finding out the truth but not being able to do anything because Saudi madrassas don't need state funding.

Ellison is f'ing shady. He was at the CAIR fundraiser when Ahwad or whatever his name is got served.

From The Times:
A U.K. National Health Service doctor was imprisoned, drugged, bound and gagged before being forced into marriage in Bangladesh, it emerged Friday, as a British judge issued an order telling her parents not “to pester, harass or intimidate” her.

Dr. Humayra Abedin, 32, was held captive for four-and-a-half months by her family and was forced to marry while under the influence of drugs. She was freed by a court in Bangladesh and returned to Britain on Tuesday.

She's not Mrs. Ellison is she?

Oh hell no. Her parents at least pimped her away to a doctor. He's a trial lawyer who specialized in pushing for Sharia and making Muslims a special, protected class.

A transformational experience paid for by the MAS.

This probably is illegal and should be looked into...

If nothing else it shows the shady Islamic characters Ellison hangs out with...

To Always on Watch,
I totally agree with you. He should be arresated and convicted of treason

We have to face the fact that nobody cares.
When I explain to the readers of my hometown paper about the threat of creeping islamization ,all I get is "your tinfoil hat is a little tight" etc.
A few people understand what is happening, but our media is doing a great job of covering for their Arab masters.

Does Ellison's oath count if he swore on the Koran?


Posted by: CTYankee at December 19, 2008 7:18 PM


Big pile of TAQIYYA, if he so chooses.

He actually swore on Thomas Jefferson's Koran.

Who elected Ellison?

Check his donor list, it looks very self explanatory.

http://www.newsmeat.com/campaign_contributions_to_politicians/donor_list.php?candidate_id=H6MN05183&li=A

Maybe the good Congressman from Minneapolis can explain his thought on the March 2008 meeting in MN with NJ Congressman Donald Payne, where Payne openly proclaimed, "There is no Al Qaeda in Somalia"

Thoughts Keith?

http://www.somalitalk.com/2008/mar/19mar08.html

And here's a 2006 story with Ellison, a guy Robert reported on previously named Hassan Mohamud Jaamici, and the MAS....who, strangely enough, was also a donor to Ellison in 2006, but not 2008. Wonder why?

jdamn: As you probably already know, Jefferson had a very low opinion of Islam. He referred to the Koran as "demonic." Interestingly, though Jefferson did not think Jesus divine, he did believe that Jesus was the greatest ethical teacher of all time. For Mohammed, he had nothing but contempt. I'm sure the rube, Ellison, was not aware of this when he insisted he be sworn in as a Congressman on Jefferson's copy of the Koran. But then ignorance among Muslims is a common feature throughout Islamic history.

Sorry,

Here is the 2006 link for Ellison and Hassan Mohamud from the MAS. Typepad and myself are having issues.

http://www.somalitalk.com/2006/sept/13sept36.html

An appeal to Mr's Ellison : Please do not convert. It is ok not to go to filthy place called MECCA.

Exactly HOW will Ellison get re-elected? Mass hypnosis? Liberal guilt? Minnesota madness? Deliberate ignorance?

Time to get the Ruby Slippers, Toto. We are not in Kansas.

Posted by: tanstaafl at December 19, 2008 4:43 PM

Since Liberalism is a mental disorder and Minneapolis being a EXTREME libtard utopia, no coincidence Ellison was elected.

Liberalism - the great enabler of Jihad in western culture.

Oh, Wellington, I'm aware of our founding fathers' attitudes toward Islam. He was probably researching it in order to know his enemy who we had to fight off the Barbary Coast. Whether Ellison knows that is irrelevant. What matters is the dhimmi American public's wrong idea as to why Thomas Jefferson had a Koran. My mother would no doubt think that he "was interested in it because it's one of the '3 great Abrahamic faiths.'"

Jdamn wrote:

Oh hell no. Her parents at least pimped her away to a doctor.
..................

Actually, Jdamn, it's the lady herself who's a doctor, with the British National Health Service. Her intelligence and high status were no safeguards when her family lured her back to Bangladesh, stole her passport, imprisoned, drugged, and threatened her. It was Infidel pressure that led to her release and return to the UK. I just hope she's safe from her savage family.

Wonder if he puts his prayer rug down on the carpet of the sacred congressional halls!!!

He was a doctor too, Gravenimage:

Her parents told her they wanted her to wed Dr Khondokar Mohammad Abdul Jalal, whom she had previously declined to marry.

(from http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5370592.ece , linked-to on DhimmiWatch).

You know, college students are known for making stupid mistakes - but none quite like Ellison or my bud Scott Lucas at UA.

Why did this organization pay for his trip in the first place? I am sure he can afford it himself!

Since majority of our politicians are ignorant or retards when it comes to understanding Islam plans to destroy our democracy from within, we need to elect new bread of politicians that will publicly state that they will protect the US Constitution.

The Sharia Finance is a giant step towards Sharia Law which aims at replacing our US Constitution - a threat we can not tolerate. Sharia Finance directly threatens our US Constitution.

It is now or never - our politicians must stand bravely and openly declare that they are running to protect our threatened US Constitution. Sharia Law is a threat to our Constitution and Sharia finance should be eliminated as it is anti US Constitution and even illegal in most cases.

Could you imagine if a Communist or Social Party were dictating to the banks whom they could lend money to and whom they should not? All hell would break lose. Imagine if these parties were to say you can lend individuals loans for home buyers but not for vehicle purchases. No loans to investors or entrepreneurs or any capitalistic organizations. We would never allow the Communist Party to do this so why are we allowing the Muslim Party to do what we would not allow others?

"Fear nothing but the fear itself" - FDR. Our politician must not fear assassination by Muslims who will attempt to kill anyone who stands in their way. If our politicians fear assassination then in principle, they are surrendering to fear and then defeat. When we fear, our enemy gets stronger and stronger while we get weaker and weaker until it is too late.

the senator is now a Hajji (allahajji is what i've heard before frequently) he is now only passing through this life, a stranger here, with apparently a place in Paradise reserved for him ... don't know which level ... because he finished the hajj. although Allah is fickle he will now be afforded many priveleges among the mosque.

could possibly be included under #20 in the 19Dec Saracen post, above.

imagine what increased contact with the Meccan crowd might mean... as he further practices his "religion" on the hill.

i'm assuming he completed the entire rigor and threw stones at the Devil (...imagining the "Great Satan" perhaps?)

the senator is now a Hajji (allahajji is what i've heard before frequently) he is now only passing through this life, a stranger here, with apparently a place in Paradise reserved for him ... don't know which level ... because he finished the hajj. although Allah is fickle he will now be afforded many priveleges among the mosque.

could possibly be included under #20 in the 19Dec Saracen post, above.

imagine what increased contact with the Meccan crowd might mean... as he further practices his "religion" on the hill.

i'm assuming he completed the entire rigor and threw stones at the Devil (...imagining the "Great Satan" perhaps?)

So that fool goes to hideous Mecca in Saudi Arabia, ruled or rather misruled by the abominable House of Saud, a country in which women can be stoned and unfortunates beheaded upon the flimsiest of pretexts; and marches widdershins around the kaaba, and kisses a black stone, and throws rocks at a pillar representing 'satan'; all of it in a place where, if his non-Muslim wife dared to try to enter, she would be lynched and executed on the spot. How 'transformative'. NOT.

*I'd* rather go visit *this* place:

http://english.thekotel.org/

http://www.thekotel.org/

or this place:

http://www.isle-of-iona.com/

or this place

http://www.taize.fr/en_rubrique12.html

Somehow I think any one of these - and there are many, many more that might be mentioned, in Israel, in Europe, and beyond - would be more genuinely 'transformative', than anything on offer in Mecca.

There would be music and singing, for one thing.

And non-Christians aren't murdered if they step onto the Isle of Iona; and non-Jews of goodwill are welcomed in Jerusalem.







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