And for a little lagniappe, he blamed America for 9/11.
Remember also that the Muslim Brotherhood said something like this a few days ago. Projection Alert: "Pak TV channel says 26/11 hatched by Hindu Zionists," from the Times of India, December 2 (thanks to Sr. Soph):
NEW DELHI: Mumbai's 26/11 was actually a plan hatched by "Hindu Zionists" and "Western Zionists", including the Mossad, said a self-styled Pakistan security expert on a Pakistan news television show, uploaded on www.hotklix.com."Inki shaklein Hinduonwali hain, jis zabaan mein guftagoo kar rahein hain, woh zabaan koi Pakistani istemaal nahin karta hai (They look like Hindus. No Pakistani speaks the language they chatted in)," said Zaid Hamid while referring to the terrorists on the show Mujhe Ikhtilaf Hai (I differ) on Pakistan's News One channel. The sensationalist channel was launched in November last year.
Hamid said that it was a "badly planned" operation that had gone horribly wrong. "9/11 jo Americans ne kiya tha usko bahut khoobsurat camouflage kiya tha. Unhone media mein perception management bahut acchha kiya . Indians ne wahi game repeat karne ki koshish ki, lekin akal to hai nahin . In ahmakon ne complete disaster kiya isko handle karne mein . (The Americans executed the 9/11 attack perfectly. They managed the media very well. The Indians tried to repeat the formula but goofed up. The idiots made a complete mess of it).
He said that the attackers wore saffron Hindu Zionist bands, which no Muslim would tie. Hamid also said that within the first 5 minutes of the attack, the three ATS policemen investigating the network of terror within India's security agencies and radical right were killed....
"Hindu Zionists." Well, I suppose it is no more outlandish a construct than "Non-Supremacist Islam."
Mikhail Abdullah will feel vindicated.
The "Religion of Peace" will always blame Jews for any attacks they do. They blamed 9/11, 7/7 and Madrid on the Jews.
What, no Irish Zionists?
As a lad from Dublin i am pissed!
Hindu Zionists again! When will they stop killing Hindus and Jews?
Funny, I was certain it was the Freemasons and Illuminati behind this.
Silly Hamid! Everyone who is really in the know realizes that the Zionists are completely controlled by the Rosicrucians, who also control the Freemasons and Illuminati.
On the other hand, the Tollmasons and the Penumbri are separate and independent organizations.
The only reason I can think of why the media are giving play to these morons, is to expose them for what they are: morons.
And maybe to reassure the reader that they don't need to worry about muslims taking over the world, because their stupidity simply won't let them.
He said that the attackers wore saffron Hindu Zionist bands...
Bands? I thought they were strings..Hindu Zionists???.
Did they all wear these bands? Where is the evidence of that?
What looks like an orange band in the photo of the one living terrorist, could be a watch band...
Where's Abdullah to 'splain' these facts to us...?
1. They look like Hindus. No Pakistani speaks the language they chatted in.
- Im sure these experts could differentiate religion & nationality from a photograph.
2. The Americans executed the 9/11 attack perfectly. They managed the media very well. The Indians tried to repeat the formula but goofed up. The idiots made a complete mess of it.
- They mean when people die, its a mess by hindus? or theres much press freedom that allowed the world to see whats actually going on. In fact some reporters risked the lives of the survivors by broadcasting their loaction.
3. He said that the attackers wore saffron Hindu Zionist bands, which no Muslim would tie.
- Many muslim youth in malaysia & singapore wears this, bands from Mc Donalds etc. And besides, its just a band of any kind or a watch.
== With respect, compare the pictures of the mumbai terrorist and Shah rukh khan (a famous indian muslim actor), See any difference?
Perhaps they need pakistanis that could read & write to comment on national tv.
2. The Americans executed the 9/11 attack perfectly. They managed the media very well. The Indians tried to repeat the formula but goofed up. The idiots made a complete mess of it.
There is one born every minute. Shhheeeessshhh.
As we all know there is a ready market in this country for the idea that Jews are behind Islamic terror attacks like those in Mumbai.
Part of the reason for this is the website “Citizen’s for Legitimate Government” or legitgov.org.
Only a few days after the end of the Mumbai attack, CLG is already posting assertions that the Mumbai operation was the work of the Jews (Mossad).
In the recent article posted on CLG, the author tells us why the Chabad Lubavitch couple deserved to be murdered.
From CLG’s website -
"It wouldn't be Thanksgiving without a false flag terrorist attack in which innocent people are murdered in cold blood By daily.pk 29 Nov 2008
"Look up Chabad Lubavitch. The Chabad Lubavitch is a Jewish Supremacist group whose leaders regularly enjoy audiences with world leaders. . . .Go ahead and look it up. Look up what they stand for. Have you ever heard of them? Do you think they are some obscure, harmless rabbis? Think again. These are powerful people who throw their weight around at the highest levels.""
The author of this article goes on to reprint some background on The Chabad Lubavitch from the website www.RevisionistHistory.org written by Michael A Hoffman II.
Michael A Hoffman is an anti-Semitic Holocaust denier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_A._Hoffman_II
I had never heard of this man before reading the article that CLG linked to.
CLG’s indifference to the victims of Islamic terror is not new.
In March of this year, an Arab resident of East Jerusalem shot and killed eight students, and wounded eleven more in what became known as the Mercaz HaRav massacre.
Later that same year, on July 2, another Arab resident of East Jerusalem went on a rampage killing three people, and wounding thirty more with a “bulldozer”.
There is no mention of this on CLG pages , nor is there any mention of the two other incidents of attempted vehicular homicide by Arab residents of East Jerusalem that followed shortly after.
Instead, on July 4, 2008 there is this story on CLG‘s website -
“Muslims feel like 'Jews of Europe' --Minister's shock warning on rise of anti-Islamic prejudice”
Another example of this sort of thing is CLG’s ignoring of Iran’s Holocaust Convention, and instead accuses Israel of using depleted uranium to commit genocide. From CLG’s website the day Iran began their Holocaust convention -
“[What about the cluster bombs, DIME bombs, and DU that Israel uses almost every day?!? See: 'Israel accused of war crimes' 23 Aug 2006. See: ‘US and Israel Targeting DNA in Gaza?: The DIME Bomb: Yet another genotoxic weapon' 04 Dec 2006.] "“
There are many, many other similar examples.
This is not an obscure web site.
It has been mentioned by Keith Olbermann numerous times.
CLG interviewed former ambassador Joseph Wilson.
The site’s founder Michael Rectenwald has been on three or more different MSNBC programs several times.
Cynthia McKinney has endorsed CLG.
CLG has bee mentioned in the Chicago Tribune, the Washington Post, the San Francisco Chronicle, the Denver Post, Carnegie Mellon University, Air America, . . . enough.
CLG has the kind of exposure and access that others can only envy.
One of the of the most offensive things about CLG is their “Political Education” page, which seems to be aimed at an undergraduate level.
If you click the link to a copy of Karl Marx’s “On the Jewish Question” found there, you will be taken to “Radio Islam”.
“Radio Islam” has been described in its Wikipedia entry as "the most vicious anti-Jewish campaign in Europe since the Third Reich."
The CLG’s use of cutesy emotiocons, and asides like “gag me with a chainsaw”, and “mega barf alert!” is directed toward children.
If you know anyone who has fallen under the spell of the International Solidarity Movement you know how dangerous CLG is. Lying about the Holocaust to children is not a point of view - it is sick.
I have written to CLG about all this several times over the course of more than a year and nothing has been done.
The bodies may not have even been buried before this much too popular website began providing cover of the jihadist agenda.
Here is the mail - lori@legitgov.org
If by calling us "Hindu Zionists" in any way brings us up to the status of the Jews in terms of being hated by the Islamic world, then I welcome that label gladly.
-Ayo Gorkhali
Yet another one for the Nonsense and Lies Department.
We westerners have our conspiracy theorists, our tinfoil hat brigade. Every society has them.
But the Ummah produces them in dizzying abundance; and unlike us, they don't have people who devote themselves to diligently making fun of, and scientifically dismantling, the more egregious conspiracy theories and urban myths.
Thought for the day: an accusation like this performs three functions.
First, it exposes the absolute irrationality of the mindset fostered by Islam.
Second: it is a classic example of scape-goating, necessitated by the resolute refusal of any thoroughly Islamised person or entity, to ever take responsibility, personal or collective, for anything they have ever done, especially anything (for example the cold-blooded - or the sadistically-gleeful - murder of a thirteen year old American girl, or of a defenceless five-months-pregnant Jewish woman) that pretty nearly all of non-Muslim humanity names and condemns as EVIL.
Third: projection. It seems to me that they continually accuse others (India, Israel, the USA, you name it, whoever is the Enemy of the Day, or Scapegoat of Choice) of carrying out 'false flag' ops, etc., precisely because it is what *they* themselves do (as, for example, in the various 'hate crime' hoaxes).
They expect us to be planning to do to them the kinds of things that *they* are planning to do to us.
Here's a link to a TV show in the so-called "mainstream" Pakistani broadcast media:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN72kCsYTN8
My apologies to non-Indian viewers -- they're speaking in Urdu, Pakistan's major language. The host is interviewing a Pakistani "analyst" who's claiming that Hindus masterminded the attacks, and were participating in a wider conspiracy involving the US, Israel, etc, as part of a plot to frame "innocent" Pakistan.
Ayo Gorkhali, glad to see other Himalayan people visiting this board.
Regarding the "Hindu Zionist bands", the captured terrorist admitted that some of them tied threads on their wrists and even put vermillion dots on their foreheads, in order to look like Hindus and blend in. Taqqiya - duh.
As for payback against Pakistan - we could simply close the sluice gates on the Baglihar Dam in our territory, which feeds the main river system in Pakistan. If the Pakistanis want to burn down Mumbai, then we can turn their land into a desert.
It's hard to yell "Allahu Akhbar!" when you've got a dry throat.
Take a look at more "mainstream" Pakistani news broadcasting:
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrxxaEZFaec
Here's the so-called "analyst" again, wearing his natural Islamic garb. He seems to be doing a lot more ranting than analyzing, as you can tell from his decibel level.
Sorry, no subtitles, but you'll be able to make out a few choice phrases here and there. He's trotting out every phrase that left-wing propagandists have invented for him in advance: zionists, neo-cons, hindu radicals, blahblahblah.
The stupid chubby news show host is nodding her head along in affirmation of everything he says.
"Preach on brother! Tell it like it is!"
sanman:
I believe all Indians should watch PTV broadcasts. It is hardly believable the kind of nonsense they spew there - outright hate and lies against India/ Hindus. It's like madrassa propaganda.
A pathetic thing was that neither the host nor the 'expert' knew proper English or Urdu. Probably spend too much time learning Koran in arabic.
Dumbledoresarmy, Daniel Pipes has written extensively about the conspiracy-theory/projection mentality of Muslims, most of it along the lines of your three points above. He also posits that it's because Musims feel disempowered, which of course goes back to your point about their inability to take responsibility for themeselves and their inability to admit that any amount of Islamization must, as a rule, lead to decadence. It also arises out of a desperation to vilify their perceived enemies, who of course are always quite benign, because without the victim mentality Islam's got nothin', being the house of cards that it is.
Here's a bibliography of his writings about it on his blog:
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2006/01/bibliography-my-writings-on-conspiracy.html
And here's his book about it:
http://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-Paranoid-Style-Flourishes-Where/dp/0684871114
...in case anyone's interested. It is pretty interesting, and Daniel Pipes at his best (i.e., not banking his career on the existence of 'moderate' Muslims, which, let's face it, are a fabrication largely invented by him).
Gorkhali
I concur. Only thing I wonder - does that make Rabii Herzeberg and the other Jews who died at Nariman House Jewish Kar-sevaks? ;-)
Sanman
It's not just the jihadis. Illegal Bangladeshi Mohammedans in North India and other places also use vermillion powder and other Hindu religious threads so that they'd be mistaken for Hindus. Taquiyya perfected to an art - thereby forcing suspicion on everybody.
Infidel Hindu
Watching Indian news channels is bad enough - like Burkha Dutt. I doubt that I have the stomach to watch PTV (which I don't get anyway).
Yes, it must be those Crusader Zionist Hindu Sikh Buddhists, again! /sarc
NO NO No. I have it on good authority it was Mickey Mouses alter ego ramadan rat.