Pakistani textbook: "Previously, India was part of Pakistan"

In other words, India is controlled by infidels who have no right under Islamic law to do so; the partition was just an act of reclaiming some of the land for its rightful owners. More wild historical revisionism and incitement below.

"Pak textbooks build hate culture against India," by Arif Mohammed Khan for the Times of India, December 27:

The empowerment of terror in Pakistan has not happened overnight. This is the logical culmination of the politics and policies pursued by Pakistan for years now.
Terrorism in Pakistan has its roots in the culture of hate and the ethos of inequality on the ground of religious faith, leading to their being deeply ingrained in the Pakistani psyche and mindset.
One factor that has played a crucial role in creating this culture of hate is the educational policy of the government of Pakistan pursued since 1977. The officially prescribed textbooks, especially for school students, are full of references that promote hate against India in general, and Hindus in particular.
A cursory glance at Pakistani school textbooks - especially the compulsory subjects like Pakistan studies and social studies - gives an idea of how history has been distorted and a garbled version prescribed to build this mindset and attitude.
The objective of Pakistan's education policy has been defined thus in the preface to a Class 6 book: "Social studies have been given special importance in educational policy so that Pakistan's basic ideology assumes the shape of a way of life, its practical enforcement is assured, the concept of social uniformity adopts a practical form and the whole personality of the individual is developed." This statement leaves no doubt that "social uniformity", not national unity, is a part of Pakistan's basic ideology.
The Class 5 book has this original discovery about Hindu help to bring British rule to India: "The British had the objective to take over India and to achieve this, they made Hindus join them and Hindus were very glad to side with the British. After capturing the subcontinent, the British began on the one hand the loot of all things produced in this area, and on the other, in conjunction with Hindus, to greatly suppress the Muslims."
The Std VIII book says, "Their (Muslim saints) teachings dispelled many superstitions of the Hindus and reformed their bad practices. Thereby Hindu religion of the olden times came to an end."
On Indo-Pak wars, the books give detailed descriptions and openly eulogize ‘jihad' and ‘shahadat' and urge students to become ‘mujahids' and martyrs and leave no room for future friendship and cordial relations with India.
According to a Class 5 book, "In 1965, the Pakistani army conquered several areas of India, and when India was on the point of being defeated, she requested the United Nations to arrange a ceasefire. After 1965, India, with the help of Hindus living in East Pakistan, instigated the people living there against the people of West Pakistan, and finally invaded East Pakistan in December 1971. The conspiracy resulted in the separation of East Pakistan from us. All of us should receive military training and be prepared to fight the enemy."
The book prescribed for higher secondary students makes no mention of the uprising in East Pakistan in 1971 or the surrender by more than 90,000 Pakistani soldiers. Instead, it claims, "In the 1971 India-Pakistan war, the Pakistan armed forces created new records of bravery and the Indian forces were defeated everywhere."
The students of Class 3 are taught that "Muhammad Ali (Jinnah) felt that Hindus wanted to make Muslims their slaves and since he hated slavery, he left the Congress". At another place it says, "The Congress was actually a party of Hindus. Muslims felt that after getting freedom, Hindus would make them their slaves."
And this great historic discovery is taught to Std V students, "Previously, India was part of Pakistan."
Commenting on this literature that spreads hate, leading Pakistani educationist Tariq Rahman wrote, "It is a fact that the textbooks cannot mention Hindus without calling them cunning, scheming, deceptive or something equally insulting. Students are taught and made to believe that Pakistan needs strong and aggressive policies against India or else Pakistan will be annihilated by it."
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Yup this reminds of a similar decieving tale where Israel is claimed to be their land too.
Wont be surprised if they write in history books that Columbus killed all Islamic inahabitants and then only USA came into existence because in their fictional history perhaps Mohammed had reached USA first.Wont be surprised if their history books call Columbus and his sailors pirates who looted the USA from them.

Some more circumstantial proof of ISI ,Pak army ,and Taleban nexus emerged when Taleban offered to fight hand in hand with Pak army with India. Hey surprise I thought Pak vs Taleban was the scenario when Pak joined war on terror. Since when did two fighiting enemies start supporting each otherunless of course its a facewash to show to world.
Just goes on to show fake double game and acting Pak is doing by bieng an ally on war on terror but actually just informing them and shielding them.

Another proof is that weapons used by terrorists in Red mosque and consficated have vanished from the police station armoury. How can consficated weapons vanish from police warehouse??? It does not require Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out.
As long as Pak army keeps on getting funds from USA/UK for the war on terror , it will never want this war to edn and so this continous saga of acting of fighting Taliban will go on . The day Pak army is deprived of money and considering their useless economy, it wont be difficult if wrold leader decide to stop the funding , the world will always be exposed to the boooming Pakistani business of IT exports ( International Terroism export) and Education ( Terroist training) will always cause world migraine problems.

What is wrong with America and Britain? They keep rewarding Pakistan for terrorizing India. What needs to be done is the west needs to impose sanctions on Pakistan and make their military kneel before them. The US should destroy all military hardware which it had sold to the Pakistani's as the Pakistani's are using all this against India, which is a friendly country to the US. I fail to see how selling Pakistan new F-16 jets has anything to do with the war on terror. Instead of F-16's the US should make sure that every Pakistani army member is positioned along the Afghani border so that killing them would be a lot easier for the US, taliban and whoever else interested in killing Pakistani people.

The UN has just announced it will launch an investigation into the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, which the Pakistani military also likely had a hand in.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/12/26/un.pakistan/

As you may recall, the US similarly sponsored a UN probe into the assassination of Lebanon's Rafiq Harriri by Syrian military intelligence to put them on the ropes after they car-bombed him.

I'm hoping the US may be doing the same thing again, to put the squirmy Pakistani military under pressure and get them to toe the line.

Here comes that predator Zbigniew Brzezinski, to add his piece of hemlock to the soup:

http://www.geo.tv/12-26-2008/31312.htm

The Islamists just love Brzezinski, the Dhimmi Dr Strangelove (or "How I Learned to Love the Jihad")

Meanwhile persecuted Pakistani Hindus who have fled to India are living in hiding illegally, after being denied refugee status:

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1216550

Official sources said the problem had been brought to the notice of the Union home ministry. “If we give them Indian citizenship, our relation with Pakistan may be affected. That is why their cases have been pending for so long,” the sources said.

They bomb and terrorize our country, they attacked us in three wars, but yet we have to make sure to stay on their good side. :P

The monstrous lies. concerning India and Hindus, that are taught to Pakistani Muslim children! As also, the horrible lies, the anti-truths, concerning Israel and the Jews, that are taught to local Arab Muslim children all across the Arabised Islamosphere!

Muslims are People of the Lie.

This must all be happening because the Hindus are Zionists and Israeli spies. Always have been, since Vedic times.

;->

Kidding aside, this just boosts my feeling of solidarity with the HIndu folks -- seeing them maligned in the same way as my own tribe.

Hopefully they'll wise up and defend themselves.

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BTW Is the Vedic period considered pre-Hindu?

Anybody know?

'Muslims are People of the Lie.'


Didn't I read sometime, somewhere that when a certain what's his name speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature - Oh yes, the father of lies.

The people of the lie. Interesting connection there dda.

Even when he speaks the truth it is a lie, because his nature is to lie. His truths then are lies, because what he says is always ass backwards.

'And this great historic discovery is taught to Std V students, "Previously, India was part of Pakistan."' Yep.

'It does not require Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out.
As long as Pak army keeps on getting funds from USA/UK for the war on terror , it will never want this war to edn and so this continous saga of acting of fighting Taliban will go on .'


You should be President of the United States, Ravi. If you went on the election ticket with this you would get millions of votes. Peace.

Now if we could just get Bush on the phone, eh.

the same playbook the paks are using against the Hindus of India has been used against the Jews of Israel. Can the elites connect the dots yet? its islam. needs to be taken down like the mayans and aztecs.

The islamists want us to react just like this so that they can then potray themselves as the victims. as they r trying in palestine. I for one advocate precise and surgical strikes with a cool head. Get the Mossad the CIA and all other affected countries like India to buld up an army of about 1000 to 1500 crack commandoes and go after the masterminds and kill them in black ops. Let us then hope that the remaining ones will learn to live and let live.

Though the holocust is not something to be talked about lightly and i am ashamed that just over 60 years ago human beings liek us killed 6 million women, children and old people in such a so brutal and cavalier fashion, sometimes i wonder if hitler had the right idea but wrong race. The muslims shld have been exterminated so that the human race cld survive.

The islamists want us to react just like this so that they can then potray themselves as the victims. as they r trying in palestine. I for one advocate precise and surgical strikes with a cool head. Get the Mossad the CIA and all other affected countries like India to buld up an army of about 1000 to 1500 crack commandoes and go after the masterminds and kill them in black ops. Let us then hope that the remaining ones will learn to live and let live.

Though the holocust is not something to be talked about lightly and i am ashamed that just over 60 years ago human beings liek us killed 6 million women, children and old people in such a so brutal and cavalier fashion, sometimes i wonder if hitler had the right idea but wrong race. The muslims shld have been exterminated so that the human race cld survive.

This is not new. Lying and brainwashing is an essential part of pIslam

Well said sainte:
But if you read on in Revelations it will state that the people who are againest Christians will kill them thinking that they are doing GOD a favor and a good service.

Hmm... soundes like Islam to me.

Just a observation from the sideline.

Revising history to the point of an out right lie, is a double edged sword. One side fools many, especially children, but the other side is that the 'real' history is available in a number of places, and some of those children will eventually be exposed to it, and realize they had been lied to.

'Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first start to deceive'...

Realizing the lie has created many apostates...

The Std VIII book says, "Their (Muslim saints) teachings dispelled many superstitions of the Hindus and reformed their bad practices.


So now they are claiming Mohammadan saints.

Who in Islam can ordain a saint?

Are there any modern Mohammadan 'saints'?

If so , who are they, and who appointed them to this position?

If there are no modern Islamic saints...Why not?

Maybe it's because worshipping a false god does not produce saints.

Islam leaves the idiot in full possession of his idiocy. His mind becomes hardened, and thick like cement...Right Abdullah?

You can't get a saint out of that.

While it's true that 'Out of the mud a lotus grows', they won't grow on cement.

Mud is the giver of life...Islam is the cement
where nothing of value grows...And if it tries, it will soon die off.

The giver of life has produced many saints.

Cement has never produced anything but a hard unforgiving surface to fall on...

Islam, there is simply nothing 'saintly' about it...

I am amazed at how consistently Muslims get the truth and facts completely backwards.

Duh_swami: A book I have about Kashmir (by C E Tyndale Biscoe) talks about a Mohammedan "saint".

He tells the story of Sikander the Idol Breaker who, following the example of his predecessor Qutub-ud-Din, the Sultan of Kashmir, "ruthlessly persecuted" the local Hindus in the 14th Century.

"Hundreds were converted to Islam by force, hundreds of those who refused were put to the sword. Sikander destroyed all their sacred places and monuments of historical importance. With the material he built mosques and zirats in various places."

These acts took place at the instigation of Syid Ali Hamdani (Shah Hamdan), who had escaped to Kashmir to avoid being killed in Persia by the Emperor Tumerlane for a crime he committed.

Shah Hamdan is "believed to be a great saint by the sunni Mohammedans of Kashmir".

Sikander's son "completed the work of destruction which his father had undertaken. During his reign hundreds of Hindus committed suicide..."

Not quite the kind of people Christians revere as saints, but hey, this is Islam, and we're here in the West to "celebrate diversity", aren't we?

'Mud is the giver of life...Islam is the cement

where nothing of value grows...And if it tries, it will soon die off.'

'The giver of life has produced many saints.

Cement has never produced anything but a hard unforgiving surface to fall on...'


The quick and the dead.
The pliable and the hardened.

So it goes beyond our surface beliefs and to the heart of the matter - which is the human condition. Our religions or non-religions being allegiances of our heredity and ideals - I believe deity is a root of the term ideals which relate to covenant or loosely speaking, who we have dealings with.

Islam is the religion or result of the hardened heart. Which produces the bitterness which consume it. It's lie is its vain-ness.

You are wise duh_swami, lol. Thanks for helping me think through this.

The individual in this state can only be reclaimated if it is changed by the river (giver) of life into the pliable. Aka the dead back to the life of humanity. Which is a matter of the heart and the willingness.

I don't revel in this, it really makes me feel pretty freakin sad. For now. Thanks again.

'Not quite the kind of people Christians revere as saints, but hey, this is Islam, and we're here in the West to "celebrate diversity", aren't we?'


Yes we are. I used to not realize this, but it's so true.

I thought its like a kid who has generous parents, who give him a new bike of many colors. He loves this gift and even in his innocence right proud of it. He takes it out to the kids in the neighborhood not to show off, but to belong, to fit in, to be a kid. And in jealously they hate him for it, because their bikes are not so special; and want to take it from him, or if they can't to destroy it; to make him feel their pain, which he never caused or was a part of, to make him just like them. But in their baseness they do not realize, that at the end of the day, he still returns to his parents house, where the gifts keep giving.

This is what the Islam wants for Israel. This is what the Islamists want for us in the west.

Thanks PG. Let's keep the celebration going. And any who think it must be our fault, and that we must understand what we do, and why it's our fault that they hate us. Don't. Like Bridget Gabriel wrote: It's because they hate.

sorry, diversity, I'm still learning... The east, the west, the north, and the south. There.

BTW Is the Vedic period considered pre-Hindu?
Anybody know?
Posted by: joeblough at December 27, 2008 5:02 AM
No, Vedic is Hindu, or more precisely, Hindu is Vedic. The word 'Hindu' itself has non-Indian roots, but the word 'Vedic' doesn't. Basically, Hinduism emanates from the Vedas, about as much as Judaism and Christianity emanate from the Biblical texts.

PG

I have volumes of Indian history, including 3 books - the struggle for empire, the sultanate of Delhi and the Mughal empire - which cover the history of India from 1000 to 1700. It is full of accounts of the way Hindus were massacred - similar to your account above - although, it doesn't have a body count anywhere. That number is in the 100 million range (not 60-70 as is generally repeated here).

On the Paki history books above, it's obvious that they see the Delhi Sultanate and the Moghul empire as their predecessor states, thereby proving that they have no geographical limits - all of India that was at any time under the Mohammedans is claimable. This is no different from SIMI - the Indian Mohammedan group that wants to convert India into an Islamic state, underlying the similarity between Pakistan and Indian Mohammedans, despite denials by the latter and the Indian MSM.

This reminds me of a Bangladeshi (Hindu) friend I once had who told me that his Mohammedan neighbors used to claim that the sultan who conquered Bengal and ended the local Hindu dynasty 'liberated' Bengal. It's worth having a dictionary or a translator that converts our Islam-speak into our regular speak, like this one

How can a country with only one export, terror, survive ?
Umm..Oh Oh!I know....somebody can keep funding them so that they can continue to play terrorist terrorist?
Bingo! And who are the idiots who approved 6 million pounds and $500 million recently.....yup....you're right....the brits and the yanks.....arses...

Thankyou, Infidelpride, for that link. I had been thinking about how the Islamists have "hijacked" not their "peaceful" religion but our English language, so much so that I can't hear the word "justice" now without shuddering.

The Chinese, of course, said they "liberated" Tibet, and many Chinese still believe this.

Such is the kind of "liberation" that means the triumph of "yang" over "yin" - and my understanding of this system indicates to me that the West has become dangerously "yin": receptive, compliant, feminine, allowing the "yang" nature of Islam to expand explosively and not be met by any counter-prevailing force.

When multiculturalism was introduced as the exciting new idea, I was very nervous about the thought of allowing people from "revenge" cultures into countries with "forgiveness" cultures, especially considering colonial histories. But "revenge" has turned out to be just a small part of the hydra-headed monster that is Islam - and I won't even start on the Chinese, whose visions of world domination are of a different nature to Islam's but might provide the only opposition to them.

...on Western territory, I might have added, ominously!