Popular U.K. children’s dictionary now excludes Christian words and concepts

Just like in Islamic countries, one of the first things to be eliminated is education...

Culturism is the opposite of multiculturalism. We must become culturst.

Multiculturalism tells us that we have no core culture to protect. This is wrong and dangerous. Anyone with an education knows that Britain has a core culture. They should know that Islam and the West have been at battle for over 1000 years. They should know that we are the side that believes in democracy and the separation of church and state. The West has a core culture to protect.

Culturism must replace multiculturalism. All other nations are culturist. Saudi Arabia and China both know they have core cultures to protect and do so. The West used to be very proud and protective of its cultures and their overlapping values. A combination of multiculturalism and globalism and 'human rights' talk have undermined our self-definition and protection. Like other nations, we need to ditch those ideals for culturist ones. If we are the only team in the game that doesn't know it has a team, we will lose.

www.culturism.us

"According to the Daily Telegraph, the deleted Christian words include abbey, altar, bishop, chapel, christen, disciple, minister, monastery, monk, nun, nunnery, parish, pew, psalm, pulpit, saint, sin, devil, and vicar..." -- article above

Will they rename Westminster Abbey? How about the Prime "minister"? Secular Humanists and maybe some Anglicans no longer consider "sin" or "devil" to be real concepts.

They forgot to mention, which words have been added? Children, can you say "dhimmi"? I doubt that the word "jihad" will be added, as it has been purged from the political lexicon.

The new words they will be able to look up, in case, JUST in case they don't know the meanings:
mp3 player, ipod, blog.
The only dictionary you need to read in order to become more stupid than before you read it.

The purpose of a children's dictionary is to define words that a child in likely to find in his or her reading. I guess if they are taking out moss and fern, there isn't any reason no to remove anything redolent of tradition.

Jerry M,

This is a private dictionary and they can do what they want. But public institutions must not remove Christian words out of a fear of implying that Britain is more Christian than Muslim. That is a multiculturalism mixed with Dhmmitude that will destroy Britain. Britain must be culturist. They must embrace their heritage to have the cohesion needed to guide itself into the future.

Words and descriptions do not exist in a culture free zone free of impact. If you take words out of dictionaries because they are not immediately concerned with the present - as in Jewel's funny post - you strip the present of the past. You undermine that which has given you identity and sustenance during hard times. Christianity is central to Western civilization and Western civ is essential to rights, democracy, the separation of church and state and individualism.

He who controls the past controls the future. I do not want to get rid of the history of Western civ. It contains all I find sacred and makes life worth living. Dhimmitude will not do.

www.culturism.us

Wow. Even George Orwell would be very impressed.

He who controls the words controls the argument. This is not the argument we thought we had because, gosh, the words don't mean what we thought they mean.

How long before we'll have to use some language other than English to discuss this matter, or whether we have to develop code phrases so that the multi-cultural PC people don't call us bad names?

Awww, who am I kidding? They're already calling us bad names. It's time to grow up, call a spade a spade, and name the enemy: Fundamentalist Islam.

Ok, this actually made me really mad, WHY THE HELL SHOULDN'T WE LEARN WHAT WORDS MEAN, JESUS, IT MAKES MY HEART BURN WITH UNSPEAKABLE RAGE

if only I wasn't trying to quit smoking...

So how are the words about islam and muslims treated in this dictionary? What about words pertaining to other religions including Judiaism?
What a crock of pork rinds and being oh so politically correct and giving into multiculturalism is just another way the brits do not want to offend the muslims and islam. Who are they kidding, decline of religion? Even if that is the case why do you want give up the past for the sake of the future. History is there to teach us, it is unfortunate that we do not learn from it as we should, especially in regard to islam.

Culturist is correct in wht is stated in that post. There is NO LIFE within islam, sharia law and being a dhimmi. Islam's history past, present and FUTURE will keep on repeating all of the perversion, intimidation, persecution and death that is islam. History is the base of the future and should not be tampered with.

Thank God I'm done with the Oxford English Dictionary from now on. I have one more paper for historical linguisics and I'm doing it on LOLspeak. I will boycott them forever. I just removed the bookmark.

Oxford dictionaries are compiled with reference to a huge corpus of real-life English usage, and what is included in such "junior" dictionaryies depends, among other things, on the words' frequency within that corpus. So if a word falla out of common general usage, its place will be taken by a more common word.

Thus a dictionary will reflect changes within a culture, but does not seek to influence them. It has nothing to do with "political correctness".

I'm all for removing christianity from our society.

Except when this plays into the hands of muslims.

This is in a way "end game".

The Church of England which was then the majority religion conceded much of its control of education to the state in the 1940's. This was inevitable as it could no longer meet the need but part of the deal was that every day began with a short act of Christian worship. This took the form of a prayer and a hymn in which everyone participated and continued into the 1960's at least. Secularists had begun to dodge this requirement even before large scale immigration made it unthinkable.

So I would agree with mww insofar as the changes are the product of political correctness rather than an example of it.

3rd posting

Editors justified the changes by citing declining church attendance and multiculturalism.

Which is precisely why the words SHOULD be included in a dictionary. How are children supposed to understand the great body of English-language classics if they aren't familiar with words such as christen, sin, psalm, etc? If they aren't learning the words through life experiences, they need to be able to find them in a dictionary. Don't know about the rest of you, but I use a dictionary when I DON'T know what a word means.

Oh, I forgot. The classics are so ... ethnocentric, so Western, so very passe.

"Thus a dictionary will reflect changes within a culture, but does not seek to influence them. It has nothing to do with "political correctness".

You mean like the way the council at Nicea had no influence over the Bible, just because they decided which books it would or would not contain?

Okay, I'm being an ass. But, someone decides what goes into a dictionary, and what is left out. A person, or persons edit the dicionaries of the world, just as they would any other book. (Except that they're probably bigger sticklers for spelling...)

Don't forget the domino effect:

Either "christian" references are going to have to be excluded from definitions of words

"Thus a dictionary will reflect changes within a culture, but does not seek to influence them. It has nothing to do with "political correctness".

You mean like the way the council at Nicea had no influence over the Bible, just because they decided which books it would or would not contain?

Okay, I'm being an ass. But, someone decides what goes into a dictionary, and what is left out. A person, or persons edit the dictionaries of the world, just as they would any other book. (Except that they're probably bigger sticklers for spelling...)

Don't forget the domino effect:

Either "christian" references are going to have to be excluded from definitions of words

"Thus a dictionary will reflect changes within a culture, but does not seek to influence them. It has nothing to do with "political correctness".

You mean like the way the council at Nicea had no influence over the Bible, just because they decided which books it would or would not contain?

Okay, I'm being an ass. But, someone decides what goes into a dictionary, and what is left out. A person, or persons edit the dictionaries of the world, just as they would any other book. (Except that they're probably bigger sticklers for spelling...)

Don't forget the domino effect:

Either "christian" references are going to have to be excluded from definitions of words

Crap. Crap, and more crap! I had a fair point to make (I think) but all I'm making is a mess.

Marisol, if you get the time, would you please delete my last three identical and incomplete posts?

Thanks
Cindy

My fair point about the domino effect is that if Christian words are left out of dictionaries, to the degree that the baby is thrown out with the bathwater, people in future generations won't know what a "Hail Mary pass" is.

Bacon and piglet have been removed.

Most or all of the plants removed are British.

Of course, they've removed words pertaining to the monarchy and British-style government.

But they've added tolerant, committee, negotiate, interdependent, democratic, compulsory, Euro and EU.

They've taken out words having to do with British identity and added words that prepare a young citizen of the world to be an employee or subject of the EU.

Can these "editors" please put in dhimmi, jizya, kufr, kaffir, jahiliya, and jihad?
Whatever. Assuming these are "infidel" editors (not a safe assumption these days) they should hope they do not come across a Queen's English-speaking jihadist or they may find themselves excluded from the face of the Earth.
On second thought, these SOBs better not even come across me.

Didn't Oxford University just get a big endowment from Saudi Arabia or Dubai or somewhere? Could there have been strings attached?....nah couldn't possibly be that.....

I was horrified when I heard this on the radio. Does the word "mosque" appear in the dictionary? How about "hijab"?

Sickening. I hate to say it, but I think Great Britain is done.

I was horrified when I heard this on the radio. Does the word "mosque" appear in the dictionary? How about "hijab"?

Sickening. I hate to say it, but I think Great Britain is done.

I thought I remembered there was some big funding going to British universities from moslem organizations and nations.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/020682.php

I'll bet islamic hellholes like Saudi Arabia never take kaffir out of their dictionaries, if they have any. I would like to see the official definition of jihad in an islamic dictionary and since there is no separation of temporal and spiritual in islam, islamic dictionaries have to exist, undoubtedly sanctified and approved by a high-ranking "scholar" somewhere. They wouldn't want muslims misunderstanding islamic jargon, whether in Arabic or not.

It's really sad that we are being forced to neutralize our culture, heritage, and identity as if they were irrelevant or inferior to those brought to the West by assorted immigrants. We must not allow this to happen and do whatever it takes to prevent it. If immigrants are "offended" by our culture, they should not come to our countries.

Josephine writes:

Bacon and piglet have been removed.
...
But they've added tolerant, committee, negotiate, interdependent, democratic, compulsory, Euro and EU.

Josephine, can you provide references to back up these claims?

mww,

Here is a TinyURL link to the article in the Telegraph:

http://tinyurl.com/5hb66a

I used TinyURL because the link was really long. You could also go to www.telegraph.co.uk/education and look for the article, "Words associated with Christianity and British history taken out of children's dictionary", posted on December 8th.

Thank you Josephine. I have shifted a little to your view, I trust mww will be similarly gracious.

Thanks, Josephine. I missed that list the first time.

You're welcome, Fred and mww.

Thanks for your thoughtful comment, Fred.