Russia: Church bells offend Muslims

Dhimmis are forbidden bells: "Such non-Muslim subjects [of the Islamic state] are obliged to comply with Islamic rules that pertain to the safety and indemnity of life, reputation, and property. In addition, they...are forbidden to openly display wine or pork, (A: to ring church bells or display crosses,) recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feastdays..." -- 'Umdat al-Salik o11.5

"Church bells strike false note with Muslims," from Russia Today, December 27 (thanks to James Jatras):

The Muslim community in Russia's Nizhny Novgorod region is opposing plans to include church bells in a proposed new regional anthem. Local authorities had earlier set a competition to compose an anthem for the region.

The work is still being composed and officials say the last thing they want to do is to hurt people's feelings.

The Muslim community wanted the regional governor to change some of the rules of the contest. Using the sound of church bells was mandatory and Muslim leaders thought this alienated other ethnic and religious groups.

"There should be no political or religious themes in the anthem. It should be something that uplifts people and brings them together. I think including religion goes against this." Said Gayaz Zakirov, spiritual leader of the region’s Muslims....

At least for now.

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Dhimmitude and Gimmetude
========================

Dhimmitude is the state of subdued existence of non-muslims in muslim countries where non-muslims are subject to humiliation, savagery, and oppression.
What is then the term for muslims' existence in non-muslim countries? I would like to coin a term for it and call it GIMMETUDE!!

Muslims in non-muslim countries seem to unceasingly demand everything! GIMME SHARIA, GIMME MOSQUE, GIMME BURQUA, GIMME MECCA SUBSIDY, GIMME WELFARE,GIMME LOUDSPEAKERS, GIMME FOOTBASINS,GIMME HALAL AND FINALLY

GIMME DISPROPORTINATE EQUALITY BECAUSE WE MUSLIMS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN NON-MUSLIMS!!!

What's Russkie for the bird? This is not even Chechnya or Tatarstan, and these punks are acting up. Those who object should be deported to Siberia (and no, no mosques should be built for them there either)

Robert quotes that Islamic text:

In addition, they...are forbidden to openly display wine or pork, (A: to ring church bells or display crosses,) recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feastdays..." -- 'Umdat al-Salik o11.5

What's that "A:" doing there in that parenthetical part?

"There should be no political or religious themes in the anthem. It should be something that uplifts people and brings them together. I think including religion goes against this." Said Gayaz Zakirov, spiritual leader of the region’s Muslims.....

Bet they wouldn't complain if the anthem contained the adhan.

I love the Gimmitude comment. I almost had coffee coming out of my nose on that one. Thanks

So I am assuming that the loudspeakers on minaretts are out as well? I doubt it!

Let's hope that the the new year brings a disproportionate amount of anti-dhimmidude.

Well, apparently according to this muslim who writes for NewsWeek, America must be prompt in restoring it's offensive image around the globe (though, note, throughout the article, he makes numerous mentions Palestine and Islamic nations...coinky-dink? I think not!)

http://www.newsweek.com/id/177222/?gt1=43002

Irritating to say the least, but more so frightneing what the commenters had to say!

Greetings:

Kind of a belated and backhanded epitaph for the late Samuel Huntington who, in his "Clash of Civilizations..." predicted that Russia, as the lead country of the Orthodox civilization, would come against Islam's "bloody borders.

What doesn't offend mohammedans?

Church bells offend Muslims.

So what?

What doesn't offend mohammedans? - Posted by Joeblough.

-

Pedophilia doesn't.

Child-brides don't.

Murdering infidels doesn't.

9/11 didn't.

Mumbai didn't.

The Hindu Kush didn't.

The Armenian Genocide didn't.

Hitler didn't.

Dinesh D'Souza doesn't.

Sexually molesting livestock doesn't.

Raping infidel women, when such a crime is committed by their fellow slaves of allah, doesn't.

Helping themselves to infidel belongings doesn't.

Behaving like fools on a Hajj doesn't.

Hanging homosexuals for the way they were born doesn't.

Treating women like crap and denying them human rights don't.

Stating that allah (the imaginary) created the woman "deficient" doesn't offend them.

Raising lice in their turbans and beards doesn't.

Not putting on deodorant, even when it's 110ºF out there, doesn't.

Calling black people abd, abed, slaves, raisin-heads doesn't.

Owning slaves doesn't.

Not condemning slavery doesn't.

Beating up women doesn't.

Subjecting girls to female genital mutilation doesn't.

Littering (so long as it's not in or around a mosque) doesn't.

Breaking every traffic rule or law and regarding pedestrians' lives as valuable as a cockroach's don't (whoever has been to A-rab countries knows exactly what I'm talking about.)

Banning the teaching of the theory of evolution in schools (and of science in general) doesn't.

Serving halal food at Western schools to every student, even when muslims don't make up the majority of them, doesn't.

And so on, and so forth...

A little something to cheer up my Christian brothers and sisters in Russia, especially those in Nizhny-Novgorod:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgIkawS64p0&feature=related

"Come on ring those bells"...

Ring those bells till they crack!

And then replace them for even larger ones!

Muslims are ding-dongs and thus hate being reminded of it.

I found this a couple days ago

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=1621

if it doesn't link, just copy and paste.

No spam, no viruses, just a funny look at muslim attitudes!

DenverRodeo:

"A" reflects additional commentary from Sheikh 'Abd al-Wakil Durubi, Imam of the Mosque of Darwish Pasha in Damascus as of 1988.

According to Reliance's introduction, he "acquired his Shafi'i jurisprudence in the course of 18 years of instruction with his own teacher, Ibrahim al-Ghazzi, before becoming imam of the Darwishiyya in Damascus."

al-Wakil Durubi writes a certification letter included at the beginning of Reliance, certifying that its translator (Nuh Ha Mim Keller) "understands the text of this volume and is qualified to expound it and translate it to his native English."

Callidus, I have one for you.
http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/

At least they get the stranger to be the enemy.
we in the U.S. get the professional disaffected who find the west and christ an affront to the luxury of whinning.

The term 4 muslims in non muslim nations is Free at last!

More idiocy from Dumbo watch

from the headline one would imagine Muslims are protesting the Christians ringing their church bells from churches and he quotes from an Islamic book to imply this

But instead they are talking about an anthem for the whole region - not a religious issue. So why bring religion into it?

Doesnt Robert live in a country where there is sepeartoion of church and state? where such things wouldnt be allowed too? Does he oppose this?

Perhaps he could join up with the Lords Army in Uganda is their quest for a pure Christian state

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Ugandan_rebels_kill_400_in_Congo/articleshow/3916965.cms

Soontobeconstantinople,

Thanks for the tip. I'll be sending money to the Lord's Army in Uganda right away. A worthy cause I hadn't previously given much consideration. Who said you guys can't perform a useful service?

Much obliged.

Concerned citizen

"Thanks for the tip. I'll be sending money to the Lord's Army in Uganda right away. A worthy cause I hadn't previously given much consideration. Who said you guys can't perform a useful service?"

lol- You heard it hear first on dhimmi watch
Christian terrorists are good.

. It is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the "spokesperson" of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the Christian Holy Spirit which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations.[6] The group claims to be establishing a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and Acholi tradition.[6][7] The LRA is accused of widespread human rights violations, including murder, abduction, mutilation, sexual enslavement of women and children, and forcing children to participate in hostilities.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army

"FREIBURG: A German aid group has said that Ugandan rebel group the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) has killed at least 400 people over Christmas in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Ugandan Army spokesman Paddy Ankunda backed up the report, saying the LRA had killed between 350 to 400 people in the past few days. The LRA began its rampage on Christmas Eve, killing civilians in two villages in the troubled African country.
On Dec 26, the LRA guerrillas massacred dozens of people in a church, according to Ugandan military sources and aid workers. The guerrillas used machetes, swords and clubs to kill the people - amongst them women and children - who had taken refuge in a Catholic church near the border with the Central African Republic."

It forgot to mention their biblically sanctioned campaign of sex slavery, mutilation, rape and child soldiers

Observe our Mohammedan visitor attempting some tu quoque.

However, he doesn't know what he's talking about, if he wants to claim that the 'Lord's Resistance Army' has anything much to do with Christianity.

Most people in the west don't know about the so-called 'Lord's Resistance Army'; and all mainstream Christian groups, from all three branches (Orthodox, Protestant, Catholic) would unequivocally and unhesitatingly condemn it as a syncretic and heretical cult (note the reference to 'Acholi tradition' in the news story) and would wholeheartedly applaud the Ugandan government should the Ugandans succeed in killing or arresting its leader and stamping it out.

NONE of the LRA's evil acts can be regarded as an imitation of the person and works of Jesus Christ, nor as carrying out the teachings of Jesus or of the Apostles.

Jesus told his disciples to 'heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons [purely spiritual act, prayer not physical harm], preach the good news' - nothing about fighting and killing. Again, he teaches 'give food to the hungry, drink to the thirsty, clothe the naked, welcome the stranger, visit the sick and those in prison' - and says that whenever people do these good deeds to ANYONE, the good deed is counted as if done to himself. Judging from the newspaper reports cited, the LRA is doing none of these things, and is instead doing many evil and cruel deeds; ergo, the LRA is not obeying Jesus.

On the other hand, the evil acts of Mohammedan jihadis on three continents can all be directly related as imitations of the actions of Mohammed and his 'companions', and as carrying out Mohammed's/ 'allah''s instructions as per the Quran, Sira and Hadith.







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